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	<title>Comments on: On the Fragile State of the Credit Markets</title>
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		<title>By: Periodista Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/10/on-fragile-state-of-credit-markets.html#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Periodista Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. NC, I know this is off-topic, but apropos an earlier discussion (now archived, I think) I wanted to let you know that Barry Ritholtz has a post today on that inflation ex-inflation question.  See:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://bigpicture.typepad.com/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My apologies for the digression...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. NC, I know this is off-topic, but apropos an earlier discussion (now archived, I think) I wanted to let you know that Barry Ritholtz has a post today on that inflation ex-inflation question.  See:</p>
<p><a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bigpicture.typepad.com/</a></p>
<p>My apologies for the digression&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Buiter/Sibert piece notes, the most likely explanation for high interbank rates is concern about liquidity, i.e. quality.  This, in turn, links to a lack of transparency (i.e actual information).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, while much is appropriately made of the &#039;see no evil&#039;, opaque nature of structured finance, it would seem one conclusion is pretty obvious:  way too much leverage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There must be deleveraging in the future.  It will happen.  A major problem, though, is at what price because yet another reasonably obvious pattern is that much of the overleverage ties to Minsky moments.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All that is on the financial side. What about &#039;the real economy&#039;?  We read that corporations continue to benefit from a reasonably healthy global economy.  Fair enough -- as far as it goes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But what about those corporations whose cash flow depends on consumption by American consumers?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Where have those consumers been getting the cash to continue spending?  Through borrowing -- heavy borrowing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Put differently, US households are over leveraged.  There will be a deleveraging of US households.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, just how sound are the cash flows of the American-dependent corporations?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The blithe ignoring of credit risk in both capital markets and &#039;the real economy&#039; have produced, in effect, a shell game of epic proportions.  And the jig is up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Buiter/Sibert piece notes, the most likely explanation for high interbank rates is concern about liquidity, i.e. quality.  This, in turn, links to a lack of transparency (i.e actual information).</p>
<p>And, while much is appropriately made of the &#8217;see no evil&#8217;, opaque nature of structured finance, it would seem one conclusion is pretty obvious:  way too much leverage.</p>
<p>There must be deleveraging in the future.  It will happen.  A major problem, though, is at what price because yet another reasonably obvious pattern is that much of the overleverage ties to Minsky moments.</p>
<p>All that is on the financial side. What about &#8216;the real economy&#8217;?  We read that corporations continue to benefit from a reasonably healthy global economy.  Fair enough &#8212; as far as it goes.</p>
<p>But what about those corporations whose cash flow depends on consumption by American consumers?</p>
<p>Where have those consumers been getting the cash to continue spending?  Through borrowing &#8212; heavy borrowing.</p>
<p>Put differently, US households are over leveraged.  There will be a deleveraging of US households.</p>
<p>So, just how sound are the cash flows of the American-dependent corporations?</p>
<p>The blithe ignoring of credit risk in both capital markets and &#8216;the real economy&#8217; have produced, in effect, a shell game of epic proportions.  And the jig is up.</p>
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