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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/12/addenda-on-subprime-rescue-plan.html#comment-2262</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good article on the new Bush plan and how it project for American in the future:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;www.theglobalcapitalist.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Global Capitalist&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article on the new Bush plan and how it project for American in the future:<br /><a HREF="www.theglobalcapitalist.com" REL="nofollow">The Global Capitalist</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/12/addenda-on-subprime-rescue-plan.html#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Several mortgage experts also said catagorising borrowers would be difficult, given that their financial information might never have been collected before.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Contemplate that sentence for a second. It really does say a lot about how we got to this point, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Several mortgage experts also said catagorising borrowers would be difficult, given that their financial information might never have been collected before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Contemplate that sentence for a second. It really does say a lot about how we got to this point, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the bailout of banks on subprimes is headed into trouble:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No Purchased &lt;br/&gt;Loan permits the release or substitution of collateral if such release or &lt;br/&gt;substitution (i) would create a &quot;significant modification&quot; of such Purchased &lt;br/&gt;Loan within the meaning of Treas. Reg. ss. 1.1001 3 or (ii) would cause such &lt;br/&gt;Purchased Loan not to be a &quot;qualified mortgage&quot; within the meaning of Section &lt;br/&gt;860G(a)(3) of the Code (without regard to clause (A)(i) or (A)(ii) thereof).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Re: (vi) UCC Financing Statements for filing in each of the UCC Filing&lt;br/&gt;Jurisdictions described on Exhibit XIII hereto, each naming Seller as &quot;Debtor&quot;&lt;br/&gt;and Buyer as &quot;Secured Party&quot; and describing as &quot;Collateral&quot; all of the items set&lt;br/&gt;forth in the definition of Collateral and Purchased Items in this Agreement,&lt;br/&gt;together with any other documents necessary or requested by Buyer to perfect the&lt;br/&gt;security interests granted by Seller in favor of Buyer under this Agreement or&lt;br/&gt;any other Transaction Document;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(vii) any documents relating to any Hedging Transactions;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(viii) an opinion or opinions of outside counsel to Seller, substantially in&lt;br/&gt;the form of Exhibit XIV;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bailout of banks on subprimes is headed into trouble:</p>
<p>No Purchased <br />Loan permits the release or substitution of collateral if such release or <br />substitution (i) would create a &#8220;significant modification&#8221; of such Purchased <br />Loan within the meaning of Treas. Reg. ss. 1.1001 3 or (ii) would cause such <br />Purchased Loan not to be a &#8220;qualified mortgage&#8221; within the meaning of Section <br />860G(a)(3) of the Code (without regard to clause (A)(i) or (A)(ii) thereof).</p>
<p>Re: (vi) UCC Financing Statements for filing in each of the UCC Filing<br />Jurisdictions described on Exhibit XIII hereto, each naming Seller as &#8220;Debtor&#8221;<br />and Buyer as &#8220;Secured Party&#8221; and describing as &#8220;Collateral&#8221; all of the items set<br />forth in the definition of Collateral and Purchased Items in this Agreement,<br />together with any other documents necessary or requested by Buyer to perfect the<br />security interests granted by Seller in favor of Buyer under this Agreement or<br />any other Transaction Document;</p>
<p>(vii) any documents relating to any Hedging Transactions;</p>
<p>(viii) an opinion or opinions of outside counsel to Seller, substantially in<br />the form of Exhibit XIV;</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/12/addenda-on-subprime-rescue-plan.html#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>newsman, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good point about too big to fail. Hadn&#039;t occurred to me to frame it that way. I may use it and give you credit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;constantine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fair comment, but wonder how much of that is due to Citi/Abu Dhabi as opposed to this plan?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is one where the devil will lie in the details, and until the target borrowers are more clearly defined, it is easy for observers to project their wishes upon it. I&#039;ll admit freely to being skeptical and bearish, but research shows that the vast majority of people are optimistic, so they are likely to assume the best until they have cause to think otherwise.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, and research shows that pessimists are much better at assessing odds than optimists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newsman, </p>
<p>Good point about too big to fail. Hadn&#8217;t occurred to me to frame it that way. I may use it and give you credit.</p>
<p>constantine.</p>
<p>Fair comment, but wonder how much of that is due to Citi/Abu Dhabi as opposed to this plan?  </p>
<p>This is one where the devil will lie in the details, and until the target borrowers are more clearly defined, it is easy for observers to project their wishes upon it. I&#8217;ll admit freely to being skeptical and bearish, but research shows that the vast majority of people are optimistic, so they are likely to assume the best until they have cause to think otherwise.</p>
<p>Oh, and research shows that pessimists are much better at assessing odds than optimists.</p>
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		<title>By: constantine</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/12/addenda-on-subprime-rescue-plan.html#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABX has recovered somewhat the last few days.  Investors seem to like what they are hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABX has recovered somewhat the last few days.  Investors seem to like what they are hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this just another way to keep the housing bubble from bursting, more of a bandaid to buy more time.  The values need to come down, bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this just another way to keep the housing bubble from bursting, more of a bandaid to buy more time.  The values need to come down, bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: newsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>newsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a reporter myself, on a minor sort of stage. But like most reporters, by the time I get to the fire, there isn&#039;t much left but a soggy, smoldering ruin, with firemen spraying water on the last few hot spots. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suspect we&#039;ll eventually get all kinds of excellent in-depth reporting from the major media on the subprime mortgage affair after it&#039;s too late to do us much good, except as a cautionary tale that some may remember the next time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Watergate analogy is apt, I think. We elected and re-elected Richard Nixon before the press figured out what he was capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a reporter myself, on a minor sort of stage. But like most reporters, by the time I get to the fire, there isn&#8217;t much left but a soggy, smoldering ruin, with firemen spraying water on the last few hot spots. </p>
<p>I suspect we&#8217;ll eventually get all kinds of excellent in-depth reporting from the major media on the subprime mortgage affair after it&#8217;s too late to do us much good, except as a cautionary tale that some may remember the next time.</p>
<p>The Watergate analogy is apt, I think. We elected and re-elected Richard Nixon before the press figured out what he was capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  True to form, the Financial Times coverage was more pointed than that of the Journal:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Several mortgage experts also said catagorising borrowers would be difficult, given that their financial information might never have been collected before. Also, a large percentage of adjustable rate subprime loans have already been sold to investors who would have to accept lower payments as part of the plan.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What I find interesting of late, is that the best news is coming from offshore, from London or Asia; guess one needs to follow the money!  Its sad that we have such low standards these days in regard to American free speech and thus jounalism which in this stage of crisis, should be doing more and digging deeper!  The reporters simply fail to have The Watergate passion!  Sad!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  True to form, the Financial Times coverage was more pointed than that of the Journal:</p>
<p>Several mortgage experts also said catagorising borrowers would be difficult, given that their financial information might never have been collected before. Also, a large percentage of adjustable rate subprime loans have already been sold to investors who would have to accept lower payments as part of the plan.</p>
<p>What I find interesting of late, is that the best news is coming from offshore, from London or Asia; guess one needs to follow the money!  Its sad that we have such low standards these days in regard to American free speech and thus jounalism which in this stage of crisis, should be doing more and digging deeper!  The reporters simply fail to have The Watergate passion!  Sad!!</p>
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		<title>By: newsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>newsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know the expression &quot;Too big to fail.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It normally applies to giant corporations said to play indispensable roles in our economic welfare.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In this case, it appears to apply to the borrowers, and this could be unprecedented. The borrowers have strength in numbers: collectively, they have become too big to fail, and the guys in suits can&#039;t figure out a way to save themselves without saving the borrowers too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By &quot;rescuing&quot; the borrowers, we enable them to continue to pay a significant portion of their wages into the system. If we let all those overstretched borrowers fail, those payments stop, and a lot of paper becomes just that, paper. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All that remains is to find out if some critical mass of the ultimate holders of that paper are willing to play nicely and accept less than they were promised by banks and brokers and bond ratings agencies and fund managers and so forth. And that is no small or simple question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know the expression &#8220;Too big to fail.&#8221;</p>
<p>It normally applies to giant corporations said to play indispensable roles in our economic welfare.</p>
<p>In this case, it appears to apply to the borrowers, and this could be unprecedented. The borrowers have strength in numbers: collectively, they have become too big to fail, and the guys in suits can&#8217;t figure out a way to save themselves without saving the borrowers too.</p>
<p>By &#8220;rescuing&#8221; the borrowers, we enable them to continue to pay a significant portion of their wages into the system. If we let all those overstretched borrowers fail, those payments stop, and a lot of paper becomes just that, paper. </p>
<p>All that remains is to find out if some critical mass of the ultimate holders of that paper are willing to play nicely and accept less than they were promised by banks and brokers and bond ratings agencies and fund managers and so forth. And that is no small or simple question.</p>
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