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	<title>Comments on: So Far, Hype Exceeds Progress on Bond Insurer Rescue Front</title>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>newsman,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You are right that someone will probably pick up (or reinsure) the muni exposures. But that is cherry-picking. Munis rarely default and insuring them was a sensible business (although the margins did suffer from some compression).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But that isn&#039;t the problem that needs solving. It is the guarantees on CDOs, home equity loans, and other structured credits that have the markets freaked out and will inflict more damage on the financial services industry. Extracting a little cash for the muni portion won&#039;t do much to fill the gaping hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newsman,</p>
<p>You are right that someone will probably pick up (or reinsure) the muni exposures. But that is cherry-picking. Munis rarely default and insuring them was a sensible business (although the margins did suffer from some compression).</p>
<p>But that isn&#8217;t the problem that needs solving. It is the guarantees on CDOs, home equity loans, and other structured credits that have the markets freaked out and will inflict more damage on the financial services industry. Extracting a little cash for the muni portion won&#8217;t do much to fill the gaping hole.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pickles,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No one is talking about using tax dollars at this point.  And the banks that Dinallo is talking to are being asked to perform the bailout, not receive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pickles,</p>
<p>No one is talking about using tax dollars at this point.  And the banks that Dinallo is talking to are being asked to perform the bailout, not receive it.</p>
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		<title>By: newsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>newsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT this point we are still talking about a private bailout, are we not? The government isn&#039;t putting up cash. Yet. Those who helped make the mess are being asked to clean it up. Fine by me if they can pull it off. Which doesn&#039;t seem likely based on what we read here. Fundamental problem: insurance is expensive (or unavailable) when the risk of liability is high. It all gets back to that mispricing of risk problem.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Isn&#039;t there a scenario where somebody swoops in and provides AAA coverage for the choicer parts of the monoline portfolios: the munis with relatively sound underlying finances etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT this point we are still talking about a private bailout, are we not? The government isn&#8217;t putting up cash. Yet. Those who helped make the mess are being asked to clean it up. Fine by me if they can pull it off. Which doesn&#8217;t seem likely based on what we read here. Fundamental problem: insurance is expensive (or unavailable) when the risk of liability is high. It all gets back to that mispricing of risk problem.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there a scenario where somebody swoops in and provides AAA coverage for the choicer parts of the monoline portfolios: the munis with relatively sound underlying finances etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Pickles</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/01/so-far-hype-exceeds-progress-on-bond.html#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Pickles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;While it may seem silly to let egos get in the way when there is so much to be gained or lost, the fact is that dealmaking requires highly developed interpersonal skills, particularly negotiating skills.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, puh-lease. They should consider themselves lucky Dinallo wants to talk to them at all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have yet to read a compelling argument FOR bailouts. Fiscal stimulus like extending unemployment, increasing availability of food stamps, etc - crystal clear.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bailout idiotic decision making? Clear as mud.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Give me 5 good reasons I should care enough about Wall Street to use tax dollars to bail them out when they&#039;ve done absolutely nothing but support a corrupt business environment where traders squeal in glee when &#039;Grandma Millie&#039; gets screwed on her electric (Enron).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They&#039;re going to continue to screw everyone no matter what happens. So lay it out there. Why should we really care? Why do they even deserve a bail out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>While it may seem silly to let egos get in the way when there is so much to be gained or lost, the fact is that dealmaking requires highly developed interpersonal skills, particularly negotiating skills.</i></p>
<p>Oh, puh-lease. They should consider themselves lucky Dinallo wants to talk to them at all.</p>
<p>I have yet to read a compelling argument FOR bailouts. Fiscal stimulus like extending unemployment, increasing availability of food stamps, etc &#8211; crystal clear.</p>
<p>Bailout idiotic decision making? Clear as mud.</p>
<p>Give me 5 good reasons I should care enough about Wall Street to use tax dollars to bail them out when they&#8217;ve done absolutely nothing but support a corrupt business environment where traders squeal in glee when &#8216;Grandma Millie&#8217; gets screwed on her electric (Enron).</p>
<p>They&#8217;re going to continue to screw everyone no matter what happens. So lay it out there. Why should we really care? Why do they even deserve a bail out?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things I&#039;d like the op-ed columnists and/or bloggers to dwell upon: (1) will bailouts actually resolve the underlying losses in the system, and (2) does lowering interest rates solve a problem created by low interest rates? Thus far, these topics and questions have not really been discussed enough. If they have, I haven&#039;t seen it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things I&#8217;d like the op-ed columnists and/or bloggers to dwell upon: (1) will bailouts actually resolve the underlying losses in the system, and (2) does lowering interest rates solve a problem created by low interest rates? Thus far, these topics and questions have not really been discussed enough. If they have, I haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
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