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		<title>By: Nick Lattanzi</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/nouriel-roubinis-doomsday-scenario.html#comment-26274</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Lattanzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing this comment on November 19th, 2008. After two months of severe crisis, our economy is on the brink of collapse as we are now are forced to reckon with the situation in our every day lives. This was clearly foreseen and could have been prevented, but now all we can do his have faith in our new leaders and pray that brighter days will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing this comment on November 19th, 2008. After two months of severe crisis, our economy is on the brink of collapse as we are now are forced to reckon with the situation in our every day lives. This was clearly foreseen and could have been prevented, but now all we can do his have faith in our new leaders and pray that brighter days will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for reproducing this article.  I have been reading Roubini since the Asian crisis late 1990&#039;s.  He is very good and has been correct re housing bubble/bust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for reproducing this article.  I have been reading Roubini since the Asian crisis late 1990&#8217;s.  He is very good and has been correct re housing bubble/bust.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonScholar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonScholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though certainly not as qualified as he is, I can understand the concerns.  He&#039;s essentially talking about a series of vicious cycles combining into one ugly mega-cycle.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If there&#039;s anything that&#039;s driving me bonkers it&#039;s that it&#039;s hard to tell how to prepare - beyond saving like hell, paying down debt, and not doing any investing for awhile.  I&#039;m also working to get out of the financial industry job-wise.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One thing I do wonder about is regional issues - how will effects vary by region, both worldwide, and regions in the US.  In Northern California where I live, we had a drought of jobs for Q3 and Q4 - with a sudden surge in Q1 08.  Meanwhile a friend of mine in Ohio is reporting a meandering job market for over a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though certainly not as qualified as he is, I can understand the concerns.  He&#8217;s essentially talking about a series of vicious cycles combining into one ugly mega-cycle.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s anything that&#8217;s driving me bonkers it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s hard to tell how to prepare &#8211; beyond saving like hell, paying down debt, and not doing any investing for awhile.  I&#8217;m also working to get out of the financial industry job-wise.</p>
<p>One thing I do wonder about is regional issues &#8211; how will effects vary by region, both worldwide, and regions in the US.  In Northern California where I live, we had a drought of jobs for Q3 and Q4 &#8211; with a sudden surge in Q1 08.  Meanwhile a friend of mine in Ohio is reporting a meandering job market for over a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Apparently you aren&#039;t looking to move soon.  Or you aren&#039;t looking to use a good credit record and low mortgage rates to re-fi so you can put your kid through school.  Perhaps you&#039;re just tired of high property taxes and welcome the relief that a 20-30% drop gives you.  However, on the ass-end of that is lower local revenues for schools, streets, sewer, police and fire protection, and the other things you may not be aware of paying for.  Maybe you&#039;re in great shape, but the people on either side of you aren&#039;t and end up using &quot;jingle-mail&quot; as the article mentioned.  6 months later, you&#039;re stuck with empty homes and unmowed lawns on either side of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan,</p>
<p>Apparently you aren&#8217;t looking to move soon.  Or you aren&#8217;t looking to use a good credit record and low mortgage rates to re-fi so you can put your kid through school.  Perhaps you&#8217;re just tired of high property taxes and welcome the relief that a 20-30% drop gives you.  However, on the ass-end of that is lower local revenues for schools, streets, sewer, police and fire protection, and the other things you may not be aware of paying for.  Maybe you&#8217;re in great shape, but the people on either side of you aren&#8217;t and end up using &#8220;jingle-mail&#8221; as the article mentioned.  6 months later, you&#8217;re stuck with empty homes and unmowed lawns on either side of you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hube</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roubini is an optimist.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Worst in the last 25 years? There haven&#039;t been any downturns in the last 25 years.&lt;br/&gt;If we are lucky, the coming bust will be as mild as in the 70&#039;s. Think not just of financial markets, but empty strip malls, failing rust belt towns, crime, crime, crime, and a president so powerless that a win button was the solution.&lt;br/&gt;At worst, the 30&#039;s will seem like a picnic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roubini is an optimist.</p>
<p>Worst in the last 25 years? There haven&#8217;t been any downturns in the last 25 years.<br />If we are lucky, the coming bust will be as mild as in the 70&#8217;s. Think not just of financial markets, but empty strip malls, failing rust belt towns, crime, crime, crime, and a president so powerless that a win button was the solution.<br />At worst, the 30&#8217;s will seem like a picnic.</p>
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		<title>By: jan perlwitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan perlwitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roubini talks about all the losses financial institutions, Hedge funds etc. would make. He also talks about the wiping out of $4 to $6 trillion household wealth due to the decline of home prices by 20 to 30% in the bust. That sounds like society will lose a lot of wealth due to this and how terrible all this is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, all the losses in the credit structures or house prices. This is not real wealth wiped out, it&#039;s fictive wealth instead, isn&#039;t it? I mean, the house which has had an inflated price will still be the same house, even if the price tag assigned to it has a lower number at a later time coordinate, won&#039;t it? And the certificates representing debt amounts whether bonds or derivatives and all the structured stuff are just promises on cash flow expected to be generated in the economy in the future that won&#039;t be fulfilled.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Such a financial meltdown and the housing bust, as much pain it can cause for the individual whose budget has been decreased or even wiped out (someone else made a gain from it), wealth integrated over the whole society won&#039;t be destroyed at all by such a financial meltdown itself, will it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am sure such a meltdown will also have an effect on the real economy, on production and consumption, insofar the circulation of capital is disrupted and consumers will have to cut back their spendings more towards their real income, instead of continuing with private deficit spending that is just not sustainable. I just fail to see the doom in all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roubini talks about all the losses financial institutions, Hedge funds etc. would make. He also talks about the wiping out of $4 to $6 trillion household wealth due to the decline of home prices by 20 to 30% in the bust. That sounds like society will lose a lot of wealth due to this and how terrible all this is.</p>
<p>However, all the losses in the credit structures or house prices. This is not real wealth wiped out, it&#8217;s fictive wealth instead, isn&#8217;t it? I mean, the house which has had an inflated price will still be the same house, even if the price tag assigned to it has a lower number at a later time coordinate, won&#8217;t it? And the certificates representing debt amounts whether bonds or derivatives and all the structured stuff are just promises on cash flow expected to be generated in the economy in the future that won&#8217;t be fulfilled.</p>
<p>Such a financial meltdown and the housing bust, as much pain it can cause for the individual whose budget has been decreased or even wiped out (someone else made a gain from it), wealth integrated over the whole society won&#8217;t be destroyed at all by such a financial meltdown itself, will it?</p>
<p>I am sure such a meltdown will also have an effect on the real economy, on production and consumption, insofar the circulation of capital is disrupted and consumers will have to cut back their spendings more towards their real income, instead of continuing with private deficit spending that is just not sustainable. I just fail to see the doom in all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is kind of depressing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Seriously while I see that it could play that way, I&#039;ll take some comfort in the whole &quot;fooled by randomness&quot; thing.  Once right does not guarantee twice right.  In this case, thank goodness.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;... but I&#039;ll keep an eye on it, definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is kind of depressing.</p>
<p>Seriously while I see that it could play that way, I&#8217;ll take some comfort in the whole &#8220;fooled by randomness&#8221; thing.  Once right does not guarantee twice right.  In this case, thank goodness.</p>
<p>&#8230; but I&#8217;ll keep an eye on it, definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: foesskewered</title>
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		<dc:creator>foesskewered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves, wasn&#039;t there an earlier post with the same structure, maybe it&#039;s a roubini update of an earlier post/article.De ja vu.  Scary nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves, wasn&#8217;t there an earlier post with the same structure, maybe it&#8217;s a roubini update of an earlier post/article.De ja vu.  Scary nonetheless.</p>
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