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	<title>Comments on: Why is Friendship on the Decline?</title>
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		<title>By: Edward Larochelle</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/why-is-friendship-on-decline.html#comment-30111</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Larochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to say that society&#039;s growing obsession with MySpace and Facebook is a MAJOR factor in the decline of friendships in terms of real life person to person contact.  The intrigue and mystery and ease of meeting so many different new personalities/strangers online are the cause and effect of a person neglecting the quality time that they normally would have had for their friend(s) in real life.  It doesn&#039;t matter how long the friendship has been, but the person being slighted will notice how your priorities have shifted to the incessant need to be in front of a computer monitor linked to the internet opting to make friends online based on a &quot;made up&quot; profile.  This is especially difficult for the people who have zero interest in mySpace and Facebook; they feel a sense of loss when a longtime friend is more concerned about their online friends, for the most part for flirtatious and immoral reasons, over the quality time we used to have.  I speak from experience, and am currently dealing with this sense of loss.  I think it is how sad how humanities obsession with cellphones, ipods, blackberrys and now internet social sites are major factors in the decline of real life relationships - my favorite talk radio host Alex Jones calls it &#039;The Dumbing Down of America&#039;.  Someone please help to rescue real life person to person friendships as well as the art and intimacy of the hand written letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say that society&#8217;s growing obsession with MySpace and Facebook is a MAJOR factor in the decline of friendships in terms of real life person to person contact.  The intrigue and mystery and ease of meeting so many different new personalities/strangers online are the cause and effect of a person neglecting the quality time that they normally would have had for their friend(s) in real life.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how long the friendship has been, but the person being slighted will notice how your priorities have shifted to the incessant need to be in front of a computer monitor linked to the internet opting to make friends online based on a &#8220;made up&#8221; profile.  This is especially difficult for the people who have zero interest in mySpace and Facebook; they feel a sense of loss when a longtime friend is more concerned about their online friends, for the most part for flirtatious and immoral reasons, over the quality time we used to have.  I speak from experience, and am currently dealing with this sense of loss.  I think it is how sad how humanities obsession with cellphones, ipods, blackberrys and now internet social sites are major factors in the decline of real life relationships &#8211; my favorite talk radio host Alex Jones calls it &#8216;The Dumbing Down of America&#8217;.  Someone please help to rescue real life person to person friendships as well as the art and intimacy of the hand written letter.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/why-is-friendship-on-decline.html#comment-4296</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYT: &quot;More Americans are giving up golf&quot;&lt;br/&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2yh69o&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;The disappearance of golfers over the past several years is part of a broader decline in outdoor activities — including tennis, swimming, hiking, biking and downhill skiing — according to a number of academic and recreation industry studies.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So where are we spending our time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT: &#8220;More Americans are giving up golf&#8221;<br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2yh69o" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2yh69o</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The disappearance of golfers over the past several years is part of a broader decline in outdoor activities — including tennis, swimming, hiking, biking and downhill skiing — according to a number of academic and recreation industry studies.&#8221;</p>
<p>So where are we spending our time?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/why-is-friendship-on-decline.html#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed that no one has yet mentioned TV.  How often do you walk by homes in the evening that are lit by the glow of their TVs?  I would be interested to see a graph which showed the level of TV watching, the hours spent surfing the internet, and the hours worked (separated by hours worked at job and at home).  Such a graph would illustrate how much time is left over for old-fashioned socializing.  I do not mean to suggest disagreement with any of the observations above, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed that no one has yet mentioned TV.  How often do you walk by homes in the evening that are lit by the glow of their TVs?  I would be interested to see a graph which showed the level of TV watching, the hours spent surfing the internet, and the hours worked (separated by hours worked at job and at home).  Such a graph would illustrate how much time is left over for old-fashioned socializing.  I do not mean to suggest disagreement with any of the observations above, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/why-is-friendship-on-decline.html#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another subtle influence at work here which the article doesn&#039;t address. The pace of work, for most people, is far faster than it used to be. One must interact quickly and more often. For all but the most extraverted of us, that is wearing--time away from work must be used to recharge. The appeal of further extraversion on the weekend when one has exhausted one&#039;s social interaction energies earlier in the week at work is limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another subtle influence at work here which the article doesn&#8217;t address. The pace of work, for most people, is far faster than it used to be. One must interact quickly and more often. For all but the most extraverted of us, that is wearing&#8211;time away from work must be used to recharge. The appeal of further extraversion on the weekend when one has exhausted one&#8217;s social interaction energies earlier in the week at work is limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent GUERBY</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/02/why-is-friendship-on-decline.html#comment-4258</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurent GUERBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;since France has strong unions&quot; is kind of wrong. Union membership rate is very low in the private sector and has been declining for a while. In the public sector rate is higher but still low, but strikes are usually well followed. Union official representatives cannot be easily fired though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since France has strong unions&#8221; is kind of wrong. Union membership rate is very low in the private sector and has been declining for a while. In the public sector rate is higher but still low, but strikes are usually well followed. Union official representatives cannot be easily fired though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 20-something and ill tell you from experience that it is not just professionals with demanding jobs that do not create or maintain friendships- it is most younger people in the US all together. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I travel outside the US to Europe and Asia and thats where i meet people who i find more interesting and interested in having me as a friend. Most young Americans, i believe, just dont have good social skills and i think there must be a more deep-seated psychological reason for the lack of many meaningful friendships than ipods or demanding work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 20-something and ill tell you from experience that it is not just professionals with demanding jobs that do not create or maintain friendships- it is most younger people in the US all together. </p>
<p>I travel outside the US to Europe and Asia and thats where i meet people who i find more interesting and interested in having me as a friend. Most young Americans, i believe, just dont have good social skills and i think there must be a more deep-seated psychological reason for the lack of many meaningful friendships than ipods or demanding work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m honestly thinking of immigrating from the USA - especially if McCain, another folksy American fool, is elected. I don&#039;t like us anymore. Our political judgment stinks. And the incredible political, personal, and social subservience to corporations and business is pathetic. Really we&#039;re drones. &quot;The business of America is business&quot; means sacrificing all other areas of life. I think the EU offers a better life for my son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m honestly thinking of immigrating from the USA &#8211; especially if McCain, another folksy American fool, is elected. I don&#8217;t like us anymore. Our political judgment stinks. And the incredible political, personal, and social subservience to corporations and business is pathetic. Really we&#8217;re drones. &#8220;The business of America is business&#8221; means sacrificing all other areas of life. I think the EU offers a better life for my son.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like a poster above said, &quot;We are so fearful of being away too long and having management discover that we aren&#039;t really needed.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s definitely one thing, but there&#039;s more:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you go away for too long, things can pile up: emails, voicemail, bug reports, and problems of various sorts. Then you come back and management wants to give you &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; work on top of all that. If you spend time trying to catch up at the expense of the new stuff, you can be seen as irresponsible or slow. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another thing is that in some environments, taking vacation can be seen as a sign of weakness or even laziness. You can argue that you should &quot;just quit&quot; those type of places, but not everyone has that luxury, especially in an economic environment like this. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Under system where many people are one job loss or sickness (due to lack of low cost health care) away from ruin, these things serve as powerful disincentives to not kowtowing to management&#039;s every desire. That means avoiding vacations. That means staying late and working weekends. That means being on call 24/7 even if it&#039;s not technically part of your job description. All that adds up to a lot less time for social interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a poster above said, &#8220;We are so fearful of being away too long and having management discover that we aren&#8217;t really needed.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s definitely one thing, but there&#8217;s more:</p>
<p>If you go away for too long, things can pile up: emails, voicemail, bug reports, and problems of various sorts. Then you come back and management wants to give you <i>new</i> work on top of all that. If you spend time trying to catch up at the expense of the new stuff, you can be seen as irresponsible or slow. </p>
<p>Another thing is that in some environments, taking vacation can be seen as a sign of weakness or even laziness. You can argue that you should &#8220;just quit&#8221; those type of places, but not everyone has that luxury, especially in an economic environment like this. </p>
<p>Under system where many people are one job loss or sickness (due to lack of low cost health care) away from ruin, these things serve as powerful disincentives to not kowtowing to management&#8217;s every desire. That means avoiding vacations. That means staying late and working weekends. That means being on call 24/7 even if it&#8217;s not technically part of your job description. All that adds up to a lot less time for social interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have observed that there seems to be a decline in people&#039;s mastery of the skills that make friendship possible. Many people around here are prone to cancel commitments on short notice (sometimes without even calling), accept but rarely make invitations, decline invitations without making a followup commitment, and lack the ability to refrain from answering cellphones when they&#039;re with other people and talking for long periods of time. They do these things as an expression of &quot;freedom,&quot; which I find curious and off-putting, as though asking someone to go out for a bite and a drink is like asking them to put on shackles. There&#039;s a sense of people wanting to keep themselves open in case some other, better opportunity comes along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have observed that there seems to be a decline in people&#8217;s mastery of the skills that make friendship possible. Many people around here are prone to cancel commitments on short notice (sometimes without even calling), accept but rarely make invitations, decline invitations without making a followup commitment, and lack the ability to refrain from answering cellphones when they&#8217;re with other people and talking for long periods of time. They do these things as an expression of &#8220;freedom,&#8221; which I find curious and off-putting, as though asking someone to go out for a bite and a drink is like asking them to put on shackles. There&#8217;s a sense of people wanting to keep themselves open in case some other, better opportunity comes along.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first commenter is exactly right that technology is a critical factor.  But perhaps people (especially the young) are interacting with their friends more than ever before, except now much of it is over the phone or internet.  I&#039;m not sure how that is so much worse than doing it in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first commenter is exactly right that technology is a critical factor.  But perhaps people (especially the young) are interacting with their friends more than ever before, except now much of it is over the phone or internet.  I&#8217;m not sure how that is so much worse than doing it in person.</p>
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