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	<title>Comments on: Larry Summers&#8217; Inadequate Solutions for Trade-Induced Woes</title>
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		<title>By: STS</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/05/larry-summers-inadequate-solutions-for.html#comment-7589</link>
		<dc:creator>STS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to Rodrik&#039;s &quot;Trilemma&quot; post.  It&#039;s good to hear that our leading research universities now include at least one faculty member who is beginning to recognize the tension between democratic accountability and the present model of globalization as universal plutocracy.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Given the remarkable economic success of not-so-democratic states like China or Singapore, etc. I half expect the academic economics profession to come out against democracy as a result.  Hey, it&#039;s inefficient, let&#039;s be rid of it! (/snark)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to Rodrik&#8217;s &#8220;Trilemma&#8221; post.  It&#8217;s good to hear that our leading research universities now include at least one faculty member who is beginning to recognize the tension between democratic accountability and the present model of globalization as universal plutocracy.  </p>
<p>Given the remarkable economic success of not-so-democratic states like China or Singapore, etc. I half expect the academic economics profession to come out against democracy as a result.  Hey, it&#8217;s inefficient, let&#8217;s be rid of it! (/snark)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful response, R Kline.  Summers and his creaking coterie remind me of last-gasp Stalinist apologists circa 1968.  The public (read: low wage workers) no longer buy the Orwellian globalism=freedom and a chicken-in-every-pot propaganda and are beginning to rumble angrily at the Wall of Platitudes the pundits have erected to keep out inconvenient realities of increasing economic and ecological collapse.  You can&#039;t hide the truth, or the Swiss bank accounts of the plutocracy, forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful response, R Kline.  Summers and his creaking coterie remind me of last-gasp Stalinist apologists circa 1968.  The public (read: low wage workers) no longer buy the Orwellian globalism=freedom and a chicken-in-every-pot propaganda and are beginning to rumble angrily at the Wall of Platitudes the pundits have erected to keep out inconvenient realities of increasing economic and ecological collapse.  You can&#8217;t hide the truth, or the Swiss bank accounts of the plutocracy, forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/05/larry-summers-inadequate-solutions-for.html#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summers&#039; argument depends upon a false juxtaposition, a maneuver intrinsic to the commentary of those advocating both deregulation and governance-free globalization:  Either [recent egregious capitalist excesses] or [policy x] which is the equivalent of returning to a Neolithic subsistence economy crouching in mud huts living on arugula stems.&quot;  This kind of false juxtaposition has nothing to do with economic analysis and everything to do with rhetorical deck-stacking.  The idea that we could actually have a _policy_ on what industries to support or how, or what to do about displaced domestic workers is TOTALLY ANATHEMA to both neoliberal and neoclassical economists, whose regimes Summers straddles for maximum personal advantage.  Democratic socialism and the economic planning it suggests, supposing that we tried that like many of our trade partners and sometime competitors, is very &#039;out&#039; with him and his because this might constrain the options of master capitalists to maximize their personal positions.  Summers&#039; policy, insofar as he advances one, is that legislators and the rich should maintain better public relations and drop a few nickels in the church plate so the rest of the country doesn&#039;t get too huffy about the winnings from globalization staying in the penthouse while the losses get flushed down to the poorhouse for collection.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In that context, it is telling that he wants to talk about _tax policy_:  We are not to think about governing the actions of master capitalists, or about what to consume or whether to consume at all, no, _no_, NO, but rather to think about what government, that great clumsy oaf, should do to make a better environment for master capitalists to maximize.  The whole idea is to get the public mad _at government about bungling taxation_ to distract from any public disquiet with capitalists who need regulation.  I find the rhetorical smarminess of these kinds or devices positively evil in their bait-and-switch management of the great unwashed, though I doubt Summers thinks he is deliberately misleading anyone.  His kind of dodginess is so ingrained as to be invisible to its practitioners.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To me, the main reason to support globalization, which in many respects I still do, is that this process has the potential to raise the wages and improve the labor standards of many in the low-end workforce of the rest of the world.  We may not think that factory labor in S China is such a great deal:  Ask them how it compares with their other options.  In Sri Lanka, would you rather work in a clothing factory or sign a slave labor contract to work in the Gulf?  That such increases in the living standards of the rest of the world come at the expense of US labor is tough to advocate for here, but we need a fairer world, and that means we in the US may have to give up that second car and third TV in every home.  But in the process we might start by putting the squeeze on out own master capitalists who gain the most from exports, and putting some of _that_ money back into a national health care system without useless and costly financial intermediaries.  The fat in the US is largely in domestic intermediaries.  If we had the outlines of a national economic plan (without the details), we might realize how little we can afford to make the shareholders of Wal-Mart rich at our expense through globalization---and do something about it.  Summers would rather, far rather, that we think about _anything_ else.  Or better still, leave the &#039;thinking&#039; to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summers&#8217; argument depends upon a false juxtaposition, a maneuver intrinsic to the commentary of those advocating both deregulation and governance-free globalization:  Either [recent egregious capitalist excesses] or [policy x] which is the equivalent of returning to a Neolithic subsistence economy crouching in mud huts living on arugula stems.&#8221;  This kind of false juxtaposition has nothing to do with economic analysis and everything to do with rhetorical deck-stacking.  The idea that we could actually have a _policy_ on what industries to support or how, or what to do about displaced domestic workers is TOTALLY ANATHEMA to both neoliberal and neoclassical economists, whose regimes Summers straddles for maximum personal advantage.  Democratic socialism and the economic planning it suggests, supposing that we tried that like many of our trade partners and sometime competitors, is very &#8216;out&#8217; with him and his because this might constrain the options of master capitalists to maximize their personal positions.  Summers&#8217; policy, insofar as he advances one, is that legislators and the rich should maintain better public relations and drop a few nickels in the church plate so the rest of the country doesn&#8217;t get too huffy about the winnings from globalization staying in the penthouse while the losses get flushed down to the poorhouse for collection.  </p>
<p>In that context, it is telling that he wants to talk about _tax policy_:  We are not to think about governing the actions of master capitalists, or about what to consume or whether to consume at all, no, _no_, NO, but rather to think about what government, that great clumsy oaf, should do to make a better environment for master capitalists to maximize.  The whole idea is to get the public mad _at government about bungling taxation_ to distract from any public disquiet with capitalists who need regulation.  I find the rhetorical smarminess of these kinds or devices positively evil in their bait-and-switch management of the great unwashed, though I doubt Summers thinks he is deliberately misleading anyone.  His kind of dodginess is so ingrained as to be invisible to its practitioners.</p>
<p>To me, the main reason to support globalization, which in many respects I still do, is that this process has the potential to raise the wages and improve the labor standards of many in the low-end workforce of the rest of the world.  We may not think that factory labor in S China is such a great deal:  Ask them how it compares with their other options.  In Sri Lanka, would you rather work in a clothing factory or sign a slave labor contract to work in the Gulf?  That such increases in the living standards of the rest of the world come at the expense of US labor is tough to advocate for here, but we need a fairer world, and that means we in the US may have to give up that second car and third TV in every home.  But in the process we might start by putting the squeeze on out own master capitalists who gain the most from exports, and putting some of _that_ money back into a national health care system without useless and costly financial intermediaries.  The fat in the US is largely in domestic intermediaries.  If we had the outlines of a national economic plan (without the details), we might realize how little we can afford to make the shareholders of Wal-Mart rich at our expense through globalization&#8212;and do something about it.  Summers would rather, far rather, that we think about _anything_ else.  Or better still, leave the &#8216;thinking&#8217; to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sometimes I wonder if I am too critical of the punditocracy.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fear not Messire Yves! The punditocracy deserves every critic they get, and yours have the added value of informing and explaining topics that I just couldn&#039;t fathom by myself without a considerable amount of time and efforts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep up the great work...and give&#039;em Hell! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sometimes I wonder if I am too critical of the punditocracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fear not Messire Yves! The punditocracy deserves every critic they get, and yours have the added value of informing and explaining topics that I just couldn&#8217;t fathom by myself without a considerable amount of time and efforts.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work&#8230;and give&#8217;em Hell! <img src='http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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