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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually in receivership the FHLB gets paid off by FDIC to obtain release of the collateral (same with the Fed). FHLB&#039;s over-collateralization runs about 20%. FDIC made noises a while back about the up-front cost to the insurance fund of settling with FHLB to marshall the receivership&#039;s assets.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the case of Countrywide, FHLB borrowings exceed the balance in the deposit insurance fund, so FDIC would have to tap its line with Treasury if a purchase &amp; assumption variant couldn&#039;t be arranged to dispose of the bank.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I expect BoA will get some form of open bank assistance from FDIC for its Countrywide `sub&#039;. As in, honking huge open bank assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves,</p>
<p>Actually in receivership the FHLB gets paid off by FDIC to obtain release of the collateral (same with the Fed). FHLB&#8217;s over-collateralization runs about 20%. FDIC made noises a while back about the up-front cost to the insurance fund of settling with FHLB to marshall the receivership&#8217;s assets.</p>
<p>In the case of Countrywide, FHLB borrowings exceed the balance in the deposit insurance fund, so FDIC would have to tap its line with Treasury if a purchase &#038; assumption variant couldn&#8217;t be arranged to dispose of the bank.</p>
<p>I expect BoA will get some form of open bank assistance from FDIC for its Countrywide `sub&#8217;. As in, honking huge open bank assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYT has an interesting take on the legal options open to BAC. Boiled down, the author doesn&#039;t think BAC has an easy out. Surprisingly, one of the MAC clauses is not a radical deterioration in the housing market or the value of CFC assets. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Frankly, if BAC shareholders have to choose to eat $2B now or eat $2B  plus some large multi-billion number later I think those optics are fairly easy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, there will be many a comment about what idiot cut the deal to begin with but people are already saying that anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT has an interesting take on the legal options open to BAC. Boiled down, the author doesn&#8217;t think BAC has an easy out. Surprisingly, one of the MAC clauses is not a radical deterioration in the housing market or the value of CFC assets. </p>
<p>Frankly, if BAC shareholders have to choose to eat $2B now or eat $2B  plus some large multi-billion number later I think those optics are fairly easy. </p>
<p>Of course, there will be many a comment about what idiot cut the deal to begin with but people are already saying that anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>randomness,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe I am being too clinical about this, but if you believe that CFC is worth zero, and worse, would represent a negative NPV to BofA, that lovely little $2 billion preferred is also worth zero. Yes, preferred is senior to common, CFC is still trading and therefore technically not worth zero (a price versus value issue).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But even if you work back from the common price, that $2 billion preferred is not worth anywhere within hailing distance of $2 billion. But the issue is optics: most BofA shareholders won&#039;t see it that way. Most people have trouble with the idea of sunk  cost. And that creates a nasty problem for Lewis.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And the real issue may still be that everyone wants to avoid a bankruptcy due to 1. impact on Federal Home Loan Banks and 2. what liquidation price for Countrywide assets might mean for other banks&#039; pricing for valuation purposes of similar paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>randomness,</p>
<p>Maybe I am being too clinical about this, but if you believe that CFC is worth zero, and worse, would represent a negative NPV to BofA, that lovely little $2 billion preferred is also worth zero. Yes, preferred is senior to common, CFC is still trading and therefore technically not worth zero (a price versus value issue).</p>
<p>But even if you work back from the common price, that $2 billion preferred is not worth anywhere within hailing distance of $2 billion. But the issue is optics: most BofA shareholders won&#8217;t see it that way. Most people have trouble with the idea of sunk  cost. And that creates a nasty problem for Lewis.</p>
<p>And the real issue may still be that everyone wants to avoid a bankruptcy due to 1. impact on Federal Home Loan Banks and 2. what liquidation price for Countrywide assets might mean for other banks&#8217; pricing for valuation purposes of similar paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Randomness</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/05/will-bofa-countrywide-deal-get-done.html#comment-7642</link>
		<dc:creator>Randomness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough when the deal was first announced, the break up fee seemed to be designed to prevent CFC from walking away. BAC thought at the moment that they had such a good deal that they needed protection. If now BAC walks away, they may have another problem, which is their $2 billion convertible with a conversion price of $18 (ah...those good old days...), made in August last year. I can imagine that in a bankrupcy or restructuring that will be a painful write-off. I do however agree that this deal may now indeed be too poisonous to pursue. The current arbitrage spread also shows a lot of doubt about the deal, but in my opinion does not reflect yet that it is off, just more risky. I wrote more on the arbitrage opportunity in March on www.randomfinancials.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough when the deal was first announced, the break up fee seemed to be designed to prevent CFC from walking away. BAC thought at the moment that they had such a good deal that they needed protection. If now BAC walks away, they may have another problem, which is their $2 billion convertible with a conversion price of $18 (ah&#8230;those good old days&#8230;), made in August last year. I can imagine that in a bankrupcy or restructuring that will be a painful write-off. I do however agree that this deal may now indeed be too poisonous to pursue. The current arbitrage spread also shows a lot of doubt about the deal, but in my opinion does not reflect yet that it is off, just more risky. I wrote more on the arbitrage opportunity in March on <a href="http://www.randomfinancials.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.randomfinancials.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76s,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m surprised that Institutional Risk Analystics got the deal terms wrong. It&#039;s usually reliable. I&#039;ll have to be more careful about it in the future.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the absence of a cost to BofA makes it even more viable for them to walk.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Agreed with the general comments, this is probably the Street and/or BofA fishing for Fed support. And I suspected from the get-go that the regulators had a hand in the deal in the first place, although by all accounts, it was only a wee nudge. There&#039;s a proud tradition of that sort of thing (Bankers Trust-Deutschebank, for instance).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Merely pushing CFC to prepare a bankruptcy flling would lead to a serious renegotiation of terms. But given the Fed&#039;s history, it is unlikely to stand up to serious game of chicken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76s,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that Institutional Risk Analystics got the deal terms wrong. It&#8217;s usually reliable. I&#8217;ll have to be more careful about it in the future.</p>
<p>But the absence of a cost to BofA makes it even more viable for them to walk.</p>
<p>Agreed with the general comments, this is probably the Street and/or BofA fishing for Fed support. And I suspected from the get-go that the regulators had a hand in the deal in the first place, although by all accounts, it was only a wee nudge. There&#8217;s a proud tradition of that sort of thing (Bankers Trust-Deutschebank, for instance).</p>
<p>Merely pushing CFC to prepare a bankruptcy flling would lead to a serious renegotiation of terms. But given the Fed&#8217;s history, it is unlikely to stand up to serious game of chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just more brinkmanship from Wall Street.  BOA is pissed that they didn&#039;t get as good a deal as JPM did with Bear, so they are making a lot of &quot;I will launch the nukes&quot; noise.  Gentle Ben will step in with some greenbacks.  It&#039;s only inflation and moral hazard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just more brinkmanship from Wall Street.  BOA is pissed that they didn&#8217;t get as good a deal as JPM did with Bear, so they are making a lot of &#8220;I will launch the nukes&#8221; noise.  Gentle Ben will step in with some greenbacks.  It&#8217;s only inflation and moral hazard.</p>
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		<title>By: 76s</title>
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		<dc:creator>76s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another correction to the blog:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CFC sold virtually all of its loans to the GSEs under a &quot;special servicing&quot; MBS option.  This means that CFC will be reimbursed for virtually all of its outlays (PITI advances, foreclosure costs, etc.) by the GSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another correction to the blog:</p>
<p>CFC sold virtually all of its loans to the GSEs under a &#8220;special servicing&#8221; MBS option.  This means that CFC will be reimbursed for virtually all of its outlays (PITI advances, foreclosure costs, etc.) by the GSE.</p>
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		<title>By: 76s</title>
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		<dc:creator>76s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The merger may boil down to a battle between the hubris of BAC&#039;s Ken Lewis versus the muted voices of corporate prudence within BAC.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, to correct the record, the $160 million break-up fee (if it can be collected!) would be paid by CFC to BAC, NOT the other way around.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lots of creditors, including the GSEs, are probably restraining their aggressive collection efforts against CFC as they pray for the merger to happen.  If the merger looks doomed, these creditors will swoop in and the ensuing feeding frenzy could precipitate CFC&#039;s bankruptcy filing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The merger may boil down to a battle between the hubris of BAC&#8217;s Ken Lewis versus the muted voices of corporate prudence within BAC.</p>
<p>Also, to correct the record, the $160 million break-up fee (if it can be collected!) would be paid by CFC to BAC, NOT the other way around.</p>
<p>Lots of creditors, including the GSEs, are probably restraining their aggressive collection efforts against CFC as they pray for the merger to happen.  If the merger looks doomed, these creditors will swoop in and the ensuing feeding frenzy could precipitate CFC&#8217;s bankruptcy filing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obvious issue here is that BOA is using old models and outdated analysis and thus they called the bottom way, way too early and they were guessing at which way the wind might blow and they took a huge bet based on thin air!  In retrospect, they overpaid and will be now be connected to massive cash burn, which will now have the effect of helping to re-set the models, fine tune analysis and thus disclose the amount of losses every qtr for the next 5 years.  In a nutshell, retarded, misleading and thus a great reason for the stock to go to the moon, where thin air is the stuff of very bad dreams!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Only idiots are playing this game and as a result, we will all pay, as morons like Bernanke look for mechanisms to link taxpayer bailiouts to fraud!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obvious issue here is that BOA is using old models and outdated analysis and thus they called the bottom way, way too early and they were guessing at which way the wind might blow and they took a huge bet based on thin air!  In retrospect, they overpaid and will be now be connected to massive cash burn, which will now have the effect of helping to re-set the models, fine tune analysis and thus disclose the amount of losses every qtr for the next 5 years.  In a nutshell, retarded, misleading and thus a great reason for the stock to go to the moon, where thin air is the stuff of very bad dreams!</p>
<p>Only idiots are playing this game and as a result, we will all pay, as morons like Bernanke look for mechanisms to link taxpayer bailiouts to fraud!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fed steps and watch the long rates go up quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fed steps and watch the long rates go up quickly.</p>
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