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	<title>Comments on: Larry Summers Sounds Alarm, Urges Aggressive Federal Intervention to Rescue Economy</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry summers just like his shadow Larry Kudlow are not citizens of the United States. They are parasites who produce nothing but commentary. If they fail in their policies of domination through economic intimidation, they will simply leave the country and go abroad. They cannot solve the problems we have, because they suffer no consequences. &lt;br/&gt;Asking either Larry for solutions is akin to asking a PETA member how  &lt;br/&gt;to improve efficiency in the cattle slaughter biz. The only way out of this mess is through economic collapse, followed by denunciation&lt;br/&gt;of all the Larrys who contibuted to this catastrophe. We have laws which imprison those individuals who threaten the state. When Larry Kudlow is behind bars, you&#039;ll know &lt;br/&gt;we have matured as a nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry summers just like his shadow Larry Kudlow are not citizens of the United States. They are parasites who produce nothing but commentary. If they fail in their policies of domination through economic intimidation, they will simply leave the country and go abroad. They cannot solve the problems we have, because they suffer no consequences. <br />Asking either Larry for solutions is akin to asking a PETA member how  <br />to improve efficiency in the cattle slaughter biz. The only way out of this mess is through economic collapse, followed by denunciation<br />of all the Larrys who contibuted to this catastrophe. We have laws which imprison those individuals who threaten the state. When Larry Kudlow is behind bars, you&#8217;ll know <br />we have matured as a nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joebhed said -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;anon at 3AM says it all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the country and the economy, it&#039;s our best and maybe only shot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;anon at 11:57 - &lt;br/&gt;to answer your question, it&#039;s their party.</description>
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<p>anon at 3AM says it all.</p>
<p>For the country and the economy, it&#8217;s our best and maybe only shot.</p>
<p>anon at 11:57 &#8211; <br />to answer your question, it&#8217;s their party.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shameful shortsightedness...makes me feel better about his ousting from Harvard, actually.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But irresponsible for an economist to advocate the housing bill in its current form.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And throwing money at the i-banks?  Laughable.  Angling for a job at Citibank, more likely.  Or too close to Rob&#039;t Rubin.  Is this what the party has come to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shameful shortsightedness&#8230;makes me feel better about his ousting from Harvard, actually.</p>
<p>But irresponsible for an economist to advocate the housing bill in its current form.</p>
<p>And throwing money at the i-banks?  Laughable.  Angling for a job at Citibank, more likely.  Or too close to Rob&#8217;t Rubin.  Is this what the party has come to?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry is looking for a job in the new adminstration or maybe a slot on the FED, either way old bull Democrats are getting higher speaking fee&#039;s and more press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry is looking for a job in the new adminstration or maybe a slot on the FED, either way old bull Democrats are getting higher speaking fee&#8217;s and more press.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would hope that one outcome of the present crisis is to get rid of the Summers&#039; and Brad De Long&#039;s of the world whose recipe for every slump is to lower interest rates, spend lots of money and have everyone get into more debt. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Prosperity doesn&#039;t come from consumption; at best, prosperity allows consumption.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As usual, Yves is right on.  Treasury Secretary?  Why not Fed Chairman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would hope that one outcome of the present crisis is to get rid of the Summers&#8217; and Brad De Long&#8217;s of the world whose recipe for every slump is to lower interest rates, spend lots of money and have everyone get into more debt. </p>
<p>Prosperity doesn&#8217;t come from consumption; at best, prosperity allows consumption.</p>
<p>As usual, Yves is right on.  Treasury Secretary?  Why not Fed Chairman?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than the fact that voters elected the Congress I don&#039;t see a problem here. You get what you deserve. It&#039;s all unfolding exactly as one would expect, knowing the players involved.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Members of Congress have a hard time doing anything unless they can make a buck off it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most people are going about their own business as the Ponzi scheme reaches its ultimate conclusion but they will pay for it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I said before that the US Treasury needs to issue their own new currency (with no interest) because in the end they are going to have to do it anyway and it will hurt just as much if they do it now or later on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The conversion rates, accepted debt tender, backing, foreign obligations, etc. are all minor details but the Fed Reserve needs to go bye-bye. With a dependable currency everything else will work its way out(in time). If not, it&#039;s going to be a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than the fact that voters elected the Congress I don&#8217;t see a problem here. You get what you deserve. It&#8217;s all unfolding exactly as one would expect, knowing the players involved.</p>
<p>Members of Congress have a hard time doing anything unless they can make a buck off it.</p>
<p>Most people are going about their own business as the Ponzi scheme reaches its ultimate conclusion but they will pay for it.</p>
<p>I said before that the US Treasury needs to issue their own new currency (with no interest) because in the end they are going to have to do it anyway and it will hurt just as much if they do it now or later on.</p>
<p>The conversion rates, accepted debt tender, backing, foreign obligations, etc. are all minor details but the Fed Reserve needs to go bye-bye. With a dependable currency everything else will work its way out(in time). If not, it&#8217;s going to be a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the the defeat of labor argument contains just too much conspiracy theory.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe not a conspiracy, but it is hard to ignore the concerted efforts of many in power to weaken labor as much as possible.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a prime example, by no means isolated, witness the first act of Bush when it came the time to create Homeland Security. What was the very first thing he insisted upon rather heavily? Sweeping concessions from the Civil Service unions because said contracts would &quot;thwart the fight against terrorism.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Excuse me but the existence of unions did not prevent us to defeat without an overt war, a power (USSR) that had 7,000+ nuclear warheads pointed at us, didn&#039;t it? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How to explain this insistence, then? I suggest that it is contempt: behind his attitude, the president was implying that unions just can&#039;t be trusted when it come to be strong on national security, thus, they just couldn&#039;t be real patriots.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It goes without saying the in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, unions really damaged themselves by sheer arrogance and lust for power without regard to the consequences of their actions. Today, the situation is completely reversed. Even common sense proposal just won&#039;t be listened too, and workers are left out in the cold to fend for themselves.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is hard to build a solid and motivated middle class this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the the defeat of labor argument contains just too much conspiracy theory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe not a conspiracy, but it is hard to ignore the concerted efforts of many in power to weaken labor as much as possible.</p>
<p>As a prime example, by no means isolated, witness the first act of Bush when it came the time to create Homeland Security. What was the very first thing he insisted upon rather heavily? Sweeping concessions from the Civil Service unions because said contracts would &#8220;thwart the fight against terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me but the existence of unions did not prevent us to defeat without an overt war, a power (USSR) that had 7,000+ nuclear warheads pointed at us, didn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>How to explain this insistence, then? I suggest that it is contempt: behind his attitude, the president was implying that unions just can&#8217;t be trusted when it come to be strong on national security, thus, they just couldn&#8217;t be real patriots.</p>
<p>It goes without saying the in the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s, unions really damaged themselves by sheer arrogance and lust for power without regard to the consequences of their actions. Today, the situation is completely reversed. Even common sense proposal just won&#8217;t be listened too, and workers are left out in the cold to fend for themselves.</p>
<p>It is hard to build a solid and motivated middle class this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Holiday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just one OT (Crystal Ball) word to add: Bitimun!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;IMHO, Oil costs will begin to impact physical infrastructure, as in roads and roofs!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Old story here, which was off the radar screen, but now  ore and more interesting IMHO:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The roofing industry is experiencing a double burden due to the oil dilemma. The high cost of gasoline is affecting materials transportation and operating expenses for roofing contractors. In Atlanta, asphalt roofing is a common preference among home owners for its economic-friendly price and durability. Since 85% percent of homes in the Atlanta area are covered with asphalt shingles, an increase in raw materials can be significant.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The problem KTM and many other roofers in the Atlanta area face is that since asphalt is created from crude oil, as the oil prices rise, so must the price of asphalt shingles. It is expected that despite the increased cost to produce, roofers will continue using asphalt shingles because of its common use with today&#039;s homeowners.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;From January 2008 to June 2008 our cost for asphalt shingles has gone from $30 to $46 for the same roof coverage area,&quot; explains Tim McLoughlin, President of KTM Roofing. &quot;A portion of this cost will need to be passed on by KTM and all roofing companies. Unlike the price of oil, once the cost of shingles goes up, it historically stays at that level. Asphalt shingle prices do not fluctuate like oil prices do.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just one OT (Crystal Ball) word to add: Bitimun!</p>
<p>IMHO, Oil costs will begin to impact physical infrastructure, as in roads and roofs!</p>
<p>Old story here, which was off the radar screen, but now  ore and more interesting IMHO:</p>
<p>The roofing industry is experiencing a double burden due to the oil dilemma. The high cost of gasoline is affecting materials transportation and operating expenses for roofing contractors. In Atlanta, asphalt roofing is a common preference among home owners for its economic-friendly price and durability. Since 85% percent of homes in the Atlanta area are covered with asphalt shingles, an increase in raw materials can be significant.</p>
<p>The problem KTM and many other roofers in the Atlanta area face is that since asphalt is created from crude oil, as the oil prices rise, so must the price of asphalt shingles. It is expected that despite the increased cost to produce, roofers will continue using asphalt shingles because of its common use with today&#8217;s homeowners.</p>
<p>&#8220;From January 2008 to June 2008 our cost for asphalt shingles has gone from $30 to $46 for the same roof coverage area,&#8221; explains Tim McLoughlin, President of KTM Roofing. &#8220;A portion of this cost will need to be passed on by KTM and all roofing companies. Unlike the price of oil, once the cost of shingles goes up, it historically stays at that level. Asphalt shingle prices do not fluctuate like oil prices do.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut entitlements and Earmarks</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Lindmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lindmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking on the Summers&#039; comments.  At best they were half baked and I agree completely with your comments about his error in ignoring global implications and focusing on a domestic solution.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do find it hard to buy into Palley&#039;s arguments.  Generally, I like him but I think the the defeat of labor argument contains just too much conspiracy theory.  Regardless of whether or not it happened as he likes to depict, the net result is that globalization would have and has produced the same result.  The time table might have been different but the outcome wouldn&#039;t have varied.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nevertheless, this is the best article I&#039;ve seen on Summers&#039; article this evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking on the Summers&#8217; comments.  At best they were half baked and I agree completely with your comments about his error in ignoring global implications and focusing on a domestic solution.</p>
<p>I do find it hard to buy into Palley&#8217;s arguments.  Generally, I like him but I think the the defeat of labor argument contains just too much conspiracy theory.  Regardless of whether or not it happened as he likes to depict, the net result is that globalization would have and has produced the same result.  The time table might have been different but the outcome wouldn&#8217;t have varied.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, this is the best article I&#8217;ve seen on Summers&#8217; article this evening.</p>
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