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	<title>Comments on: Fannie, Freddie: Note Sale Off Well, Rogers Deems Plan &quot;Unmitigated Disaster&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans lets unite and make sure our leaders never do this again to us. First sell all your stocks (401k&#039;s,Ira&#039;s and take your money out of the banks). This way we dont have to listen to CEO&#039;s BS us everyday. Second stop paying for all your debt&#039;s including your mortgage. This way Wall Street will wake up for once and smell reality. Once we put them into check and take control to put fundamentals back into our economy. Last but not least lets bring back our troops to protect the borders. Oh, I forgot lets make sure the Gov&#039;t is Not a subsidiary of the Oil &amp; Pharameucitical companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans lets unite and make sure our leaders never do this again to us. First sell all your stocks (401k&#8217;s,Ira&#8217;s and take your money out of the banks). This way we dont have to listen to CEO&#8217;s BS us everyday. Second stop paying for all your debt&#8217;s including your mortgage. This way Wall Street will wake up for once and smell reality. Once we put them into check and take control to put fundamentals back into our economy. Last but not least lets bring back our troops to protect the borders. Oh, I forgot lets make sure the Gov&#8217;t is Not a subsidiary of the Oil &#038; Pharameucitical companies.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/fannie-freddie-note-sale-off-well.html#comment-11345</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiela Bair should be removed ASAP. This has to be a voilation of the law. Then again as Rogers sadi, much of the action heretofore alls in this catagory. Who is she to be arbitrarily deciding to experiment with taxpayer money. She hasn&#039;t a clue about what will or  will not work. SHer own Agency missed the Indymac situation in part. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is Katrina with a different set of ineptitude and far higher stakes. Reminds me of the Taleb story about the guy who flips a coin 49 times and gets heads each time. Asks the ibankser what will be the probability on the next flip and the banker says of course 50%. Then he ask joe from brooklyn and he says heads of course, the coin is loaded. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As these poeple try to make themselves relevant the future tax bill rises. Sad, but not at all unexpected</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiela Bair should be removed ASAP. This has to be a voilation of the law. Then again as Rogers sadi, much of the action heretofore alls in this catagory. Who is she to be arbitrarily deciding to experiment with taxpayer money. She hasn&#8217;t a clue about what will or  will not work. SHer own Agency missed the Indymac situation in part. </p>
<p>This is Katrina with a different set of ineptitude and far higher stakes. Reminds me of the Taleb story about the guy who flips a coin 49 times and gets heads each time. Asks the ibankser what will be the probability on the next flip and the banker says of course 50%. Then he ask joe from brooklyn and he says heads of course, the coin is loaded. </p>
<p>As these poeple try to make themselves relevant the future tax bill rises. Sad, but not at all unexpected</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I stand corrected, but i view Roubini as the exception that proves the rule. I am sure that forecast got him viewed as a crank, whether Serious Economists and/or the MSM even bothered to say so.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I started blogging and therefor paying close attention to the financial media at the very end of 2006. It was obvious that things were going to end badly, probably very badly, but I am surprised by the policy response from this Administration. And I would not have foreseen the nationalization being done via the Fed, which takes it out of the realm of public debate and instead made it a fait accompli.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Long winded way of saying I could see a government sponsored (or funded) recapitalization of the banking system being necessary, a la Japan, but I&#039;m surprised it got as far as it has this fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael.</p>
<p>I stand corrected, but i view Roubini as the exception that proves the rule. I am sure that forecast got him viewed as a crank, whether Serious Economists and/or the MSM even bothered to say so.</p>
<p>I started blogging and therefor paying close attention to the financial media at the very end of 2006. It was obvious that things were going to end badly, probably very badly, but I am surprised by the policy response from this Administration. And I would not have foreseen the nationalization being done via the Fed, which takes it out of the realm of public debate and instead made it a fait accompli.</p>
<p>Long winded way of saying I could see a government sponsored (or funded) recapitalization of the banking system being necessary, a la Japan, but I&#8217;m surprised it got as far as it has this fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McKinlay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McKinlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves said : &quot;Given that two years ago, no one would have predicted we&#039;d have a partially nationalized banking system in 2008 &quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually Roubini predicted it two years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves said : &#8220;Given that two years ago, no one would have predicted we&#8217;d have a partially nationalized banking system in 2008 &#8221; </p>
<p>Actually Roubini predicted it two years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This from the Washington Post&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;“A closely-watched Freddie Mac bond sale did hold some good news. Government officials had spent the weekend monitoring and preparing for the $3 billion debt auction. The fact that the interest rate was close to that paid for comparable Treasury notes was a sign that investors have faith in the company&#039;s bonds.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If “Government Officials” (would that be Goldman Sachs?) spent the weekend “preparing” for the $3Bn debt auction, is this not an admission that the management of Freddie Mac is incapable of managing its own debt auction, or that the market will no longer deal with Freddie Mac directly but will only deal with “Government Officials”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from the Washington Post</p>
<p>“A closely-watched Freddie Mac bond sale did hold some good news. Government officials had spent the weekend monitoring and preparing for the $3 billion debt auction. The fact that the interest rate was close to that paid for comparable Treasury notes was a sign that investors have faith in the company&#8217;s bonds.”</p>
<p>If “Government Officials” (would that be Goldman Sachs?) spent the weekend “preparing” for the $3Bn debt auction, is this not an admission that the management of Freddie Mac is incapable of managing its own debt auction, or that the market will no longer deal with Freddie Mac directly but will only deal with “Government Officials”?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anonymous 7:34PM&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Modified loans will be worth more than foreclosed loans,&quot; she said in an interview on CNBC television.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is Bair a member of the Communist Party.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps Irving Berlin should come back from the dead (along with IndyMac) and rewrite “God Bless America” as “God Save America”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous 7:34PM</p>
<p>&#8220;Modified loans will be worth more than foreclosed loans,&#8221; she said in an interview on CNBC television.</p>
<p>Is Bair a member of the Communist Party.</p>
<p>Perhaps Irving Berlin should come back from the dead (along with IndyMac) and rewrite “God Bless America” as “God Save America”</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“People should not assume that just because the stock price has been going down, that we’re going to close their bank,” Ms. Bair said in an interview. “In addition to our credit problems, I don’t want to have to start worrying about bank runs.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This from the New York Times&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/business/15bank.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When Sheila Bair, the chairwoman of the F.D.I.C. says &quot;I don&#039;t want to have to start worrying about bank runs&quot;, could somebody remind her that that is precisely her job. And, that if she had been doning her job properly she wouldn&#039;t have to worry.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When she says &quot;In addition to our credit problems&quot; is she speaking for the FDIC (running out of credit) or the American economy (running out of credit) or the US Govt. (running out of credit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“People should not assume that just because the stock price has been going down, that we’re going to close their bank,” Ms. Bair said in an interview. “In addition to our credit problems, I don’t want to have to start worrying about bank runs.”</p>
<p>This from the New York Times</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/business/15bank.html?_r=1&#038;hp&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/business/15bank.html?_r=1&#038;hp&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>When Sheila Bair, the chairwoman of the F.D.I.C. says &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to have to start worrying about bank runs&#8221;, could somebody remind her that that is precisely her job. And, that if she had been doning her job properly she wouldn&#8217;t have to worry.</p>
<p>When she says &#8220;In addition to our credit problems&#8221; is she speaking for the FDIC (running out of credit) or the American economy (running out of credit) or the US Govt. (running out of credit).</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My assumption re any analyst or investor on CNBC is that they are a cheerleader unless there is good reason to believe otherwise. Until very recently, skeptics or bears were featured rarely and then mainly to create the appearance of fairness or serve as a foil to the bulls. I do not watch CNBC, but catch occasional clips on the Internet. You may recall the attempted hazing of Barry Ritholtz a couple of months ago. It was an ugly piece of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My assumption re any analyst or investor on CNBC is that they are a cheerleader unless there is good reason to believe otherwise. Until very recently, skeptics or bears were featured rarely and then mainly to create the appearance of fairness or serve as a foil to the bulls. I do not watch CNBC, but catch occasional clips on the Internet. You may recall the attempted hazing of Barry Ritholtz a couple of months ago. It was an ugly piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine many homeowners behind on their mortgages will now hope that their bank goes under, so that the Fed owns their home.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;----------------&lt;br/&gt;http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080714/indymac_fdic.html?.v=3&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;FDIC halts foreclosure on IndyMac mortgages: Bair&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Monday July 14, 5:20 pm ET&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp has temporarily halted any foreclosures on the $15 billion of bank-owned mortgage loans found in IndyMac&#039;s portfolio, FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair said on Monday.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bair has scolded mortgage lenders for being too slow to help distressed borrowers restructure their home loans.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Modified loans will be worth more than foreclosed loans,&quot; she said in an interview on CNBC television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine many homeowners behind on their mortgages will now hope that their bank goes under, so that the Fed owns their home.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br /><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080714/indymac_fdic.html?.v=3" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080714/indymac_fdic.html?.v=3</a></p>
<p>FDIC halts foreclosure on IndyMac mortgages: Bair</p>
<p>Monday July 14, 5:20 pm ET</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) &#8211; The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp has temporarily halted any foreclosures on the $15 billion of bank-owned mortgage loans found in IndyMac&#8217;s portfolio, FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair said on Monday.</p>
<p>Bair has scolded mortgage lenders for being too slow to help distressed borrowers restructure their home loans.</p>
<p>&#8220;Modified loans will be worth more than foreclosed loans,&#8221; she said in an interview on CNBC television.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_in_MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob_in_MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the well-respected, idiot analysts, Bove tops the list. He was recommending buying banks a couple months ago. I saw him on Bloomberg wet his pants when Citi cut their dividend. How the hell could a bank analyst not see that coming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the well-respected, idiot analysts, Bove tops the list. He was recommending buying banks a couple months ago. I saw him on Bloomberg wet his pants when Citi cut their dividend. How the hell could a bank analyst not see that coming?</p>
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