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	<title>Comments on: IndyMac Seized By Federal Regulators (And Creates Headache for FDIC)</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/indymac-seized-by-federal-regulators.html#comment-11147</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have the leader we need. His name is Ron Paul.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/indymac-seized-by-federal-regulators.html#comment-11123</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so it begins . . . . Reading the NYT mashup on this, the precipitating vector was a classic bank run at the withdrawal window in recent days, presumably of those &#039;non-brokered&#039; depositors.  The NYT had the unmitigaged mendacity to describe Indymac&#039;s deposit situation as &quot;improving in June&quot; before Schumer&#039;s remarks.  Right; all those brokered deposits flooding in, &#039;improving&#039; the visuals---while ballooning the eventual losses.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This to me was likely the driver for Schumer&#039;s letter; some staffer brought home to him that the colossal size of Indymac&#039;s brokered deposits marked a &#039;Savings and Loan&#039; debt spiral which was going to cost the FDIC more after the Election.  I don&#039;t doubt that he called the regulators on the carpet and got voicemail for several months before his letter.  I don&#039;t like him personally, but in this instance his action is nothing but a public service, this rotting zombie had to be put down before it swallowed even more of the FDIC.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So Steve at 12:53, &#039;preciate the summary there:  that tells the real story on IndyFake.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And a re: &quot;The best this Administration can do is to encourage the banks to loot the deposit insurance fund?&quot;  Yes, really, and the White House and the Cabinet level ones for the most part Just Don&#039;t Care.  It has been clear for two years that their goal was to sandbag the weeping levy until January, 09, then blame the Incoming Fool for dropping the ball.  The conduct of senior public officials in this Administration is indescribably selfish and irresponsible, but that has been their trademark since they took office.  Everything is spin; nothing is accountability; absolutely nothing is responsibility.  Congress really needs to take the bull by the horns but the current lot has made ducking tough issues such a career move than their spines are wrapped in a C-curve to navel level.  In that case, Sen. Shumer going it alone is the only kind of action really possible---and we should applaud.  WyMe, Citifunk, Layman&#039;s, Countryfried, Wachouttau, and a slate of similar undead financials need to be put down, like, NOW before they soak up anymore capital.  UBS, RBS, and their ilk are someone else&#039;s problem.  Inshallah all it takes is a letter and a microphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so it begins . . . . Reading the NYT mashup on this, the precipitating vector was a classic bank run at the withdrawal window in recent days, presumably of those &#8216;non-brokered&#8217; depositors.  The NYT had the unmitigaged mendacity to describe Indymac&#8217;s deposit situation as &#8220;improving in June&#8221; before Schumer&#8217;s remarks.  Right; all those brokered deposits flooding in, &#8216;improving&#8217; the visuals&#8212;while ballooning the eventual losses.  </p>
<p>This to me was likely the driver for Schumer&#8217;s letter; some staffer brought home to him that the colossal size of Indymac&#8217;s brokered deposits marked a &#8216;Savings and Loan&#8217; debt spiral which was going to cost the FDIC more after the Election.  I don&#8217;t doubt that he called the regulators on the carpet and got voicemail for several months before his letter.  I don&#8217;t like him personally, but in this instance his action is nothing but a public service, this rotting zombie had to be put down before it swallowed even more of the FDIC.  </p>
<p>So Steve at 12:53, &#8216;preciate the summary there:  that tells the real story on IndyFake.  </p>
<p>And a re: &#8220;The best this Administration can do is to encourage the banks to loot the deposit insurance fund?&#8221;  Yes, really, and the White House and the Cabinet level ones for the most part Just Don&#8217;t Care.  It has been clear for two years that their goal was to sandbag the weeping levy until January, 09, then blame the Incoming Fool for dropping the ball.  The conduct of senior public officials in this Administration is indescribably selfish and irresponsible, but that has been their trademark since they took office.  Everything is spin; nothing is accountability; absolutely nothing is responsibility.  Congress really needs to take the bull by the horns but the current lot has made ducking tough issues such a career move than their spines are wrapped in a C-curve to navel level.  In that case, Sen. Shumer going it alone is the only kind of action really possible&#8212;and we should applaud.  WyMe, Citifunk, Layman&#8217;s, Countryfried, Wachouttau, and a slate of similar undead financials need to be put down, like, NOW before they soak up anymore capital.  UBS, RBS, and their ilk are someone else&#8217;s problem.  Inshallah all it takes is a letter and a microphone.</p>
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		<title>By: retread</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/indymac-seized-by-federal-regulators.html#comment-11104</link>
		<dc:creator>retread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was going to write about your comments last night and held back, and it&#039;s even worse tonight. This has been going on pretty much all week.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You make ham-handed editorial comments on NC posts to steer traffic to your own site. And what you say is pedestrian at best.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your last comment reveals your ignorance. Schumer is on the Senate Banking Committee. As Steve indicates, it does not take an in-depth analysis to see the bank was in trouble. Senators have staffers who do grunt work, and they are often sharp. Oh, maybe you didn&#039;t you know that either?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yves, this guy is a troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I was going to write about your comments last night and held back, and it&#8217;s even worse tonight. This has been going on pretty much all week.</p>
<p>You make ham-handed editorial comments on NC posts to steer traffic to your own site. And what you say is pedestrian at best.</p>
<p>Your last comment reveals your ignorance. Schumer is on the Senate Banking Committee. As Steve indicates, it does not take an in-depth analysis to see the bank was in trouble. Senators have staffers who do grunt work, and they are often sharp. Oh, maybe you didn&#8217;t you know that either?</p>
<p>Yves, this guy is a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lindmark</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/indymac-seized-by-federal-regulators.html#comment-11100</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Lindmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, if you read my comments you may note that I said others are to blame as well.  The point is that &lt;br/&gt;Schumer is able to speak from a very high bully pulpit and when you have that privilige you need to zip it up from time to time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Schummer as Steve implies was not asking questions. Rather he was making accusations.  Unless we are to believe that he or his staff spent a lot of time analyzing and tearing apart the financial statements of a middling bank (why in the world would they care) it seems reasonable to assume that he used confidential information to help spark a run on a financial institution that may or may not have had a chance of survival. His attack was a very big and totally unecessary nail in the coffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, if you read my comments you may note that I said others are to blame as well.  The point is that <br />Schumer is able to speak from a very high bully pulpit and when you have that privilige you need to zip it up from time to time.</p>
<p>Schummer as Steve implies was not asking questions. Rather he was making accusations.  Unless we are to believe that he or his staff spent a lot of time analyzing and tearing apart the financial statements of a middling bank (why in the world would they care) it seems reasonable to assume that he used confidential information to help spark a run on a financial institution that may or may not have had a chance of survival. His attack was a very big and totally unecessary nail in the coffin.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/indymac-seized-by-federal-regulators.html#comment-11097</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is incredible to me that OTS, until last week, considered Indymac to be ``well capitalized&#039;&#039;. As of 3/31/08:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- Indymac had 1/3 of its assets ($10B) booked as level 3.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- An unbelievable 40% of its deposits were money desk deposits (which OTS categorizes as brokered deposits).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- Indymac had lost all access to the commercial paper markets.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- No one would do repo with Indymac.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- Indymac&#039;s sole sources of liquidity were insured deposits and FHLB borrowings.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- Moody&#039;s had pulled its ratings at Indymac&#039;s request after cutting Indymac to junk way back in Sept of &#039;07.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;--S&amp;P and Fitch downgraded Indymac to junk in Q1 08.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now it&#039;s amusing to see our ``business knows best&#039;&#039; Administration decide that the private sector had it all wrong, and that Indymac was in fine shape.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Basically Schumer asked the same questions that many people in the credit markets had been asking for months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is incredible to me that OTS, until last week, considered Indymac to be &#8220;well capitalized&#8221;. As of 3/31/08:</p>
<p>&#8211; Indymac had 1/3 of its assets ($10B) booked as level 3.</p>
<p>&#8211; An unbelievable 40% of its deposits were money desk deposits (which OTS categorizes as brokered deposits).</p>
<p>&#8211; Indymac had lost all access to the commercial paper markets.</p>
<p>&#8211; No one would do repo with Indymac.</p>
<p>&#8211; Indymac&#8217;s sole sources of liquidity were insured deposits and FHLB borrowings.</p>
<p>&#8211; Moody&#8217;s had pulled its ratings at Indymac&#8217;s request after cutting Indymac to junk way back in Sept of &#8216;07.</p>
<p>&#8211;S&#038;P and Fitch downgraded Indymac to junk in Q1 08.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s amusing to see our &#8220;business knows best&#8221; Administration decide that the private sector had it all wrong, and that Indymac was in fine shape.</p>
<p>Basically Schumer asked the same questions that many people in the credit markets had been asking for months.</p>
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		<title>By: tomd</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we learning, yet again?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Count on government at your peril.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How might you be &quot;counting on government&quot;?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;tomd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we learning, yet again?</p>
<p>Count on government at your peril.</p>
<p>How might you be &#8220;counting on government&#8221;?</p>
<p>tomd</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The regulators need to be held to account for standing by and doing nothing.  Government has failed us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regulators need to be held to account for standing by and doing nothing.  Government has failed us.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schumer may be a grandstanding windbag, but he is not to blame for this. And comments blaming him miss the point. I&#039;m a Texan, not a New Yorker. What&#039;s playing out here, played out in the Southwest in the oil bust, and the playbook for the last 8-10 years of sweeping the dirt under the rug and looking the other way at dirty, bad, or corrupt accounting (and lack of capital) won&#039;t solve the problem. Nor will blaming people like Schumer, who identify the problem. IndyMac was going to go under, and if Schumer alerted people to the extent of the problem, he is doing the average American a service, not a disservice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The S&amp;Loans went under regardless--you can kick the can down the road only so far. Blaming Schumer distracts from the real issue--which is solvency, now of Indy, then of WAMU, and of Freddie.  A solvent IndyMac would not go by a comment by a windbag. &lt;br/&gt;Period. I&#039;ve seen this before but I never thought the FED and FDIC would let it happen again on a national scale. &lt;br/&gt;They did--not Schumer. And I don&#039;t even like the man. If he keeps a widow from losing her retirement funds at Indy or the next bank, whatever his motives, he&#039;s done a public service.&lt;br/&gt;I have a one year CD maturing at WAMU on the 13th, with a son going off to college, so I&#039;ve been dreading this for WAMU, even though  &lt;br/&gt;it would only be an inconvenienc--at least until the FDIC runs out of funds. We set up another account at Schwab as insurance in February when my wife received a bonus and half of the salary is going there, and I&#039;m going to send my older son in CA some money to set up a second savings bank in a different bank than WAMU (probably BAC), as a backup. I recommend hedging your bets in some such fashion, in case the early 80s S&amp;L does replay. I hope not but think so.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schumer may be a grandstanding windbag, but he is not to blame for this. And comments blaming him miss the point. I&#8217;m a Texan, not a New Yorker. What&#8217;s playing out here, played out in the Southwest in the oil bust, and the playbook for the last 8-10 years of sweeping the dirt under the rug and looking the other way at dirty, bad, or corrupt accounting (and lack of capital) won&#8217;t solve the problem. Nor will blaming people like Schumer, who identify the problem. IndyMac was going to go under, and if Schumer alerted people to the extent of the problem, he is doing the average American a service, not a disservice.</p>
<p>The S&#038;Loans went under regardless&#8211;you can kick the can down the road only so far. Blaming Schumer distracts from the real issue&#8211;which is solvency, now of Indy, then of WAMU, and of Freddie.  A solvent IndyMac would not go by a comment by a windbag. <br />Period. I&#8217;ve seen this before but I never thought the FED and FDIC would let it happen again on a national scale. <br />They did&#8211;not Schumer. And I don&#8217;t even like the man. If he keeps a widow from losing her retirement funds at Indy or the next bank, whatever his motives, he&#8217;s done a public service.<br />I have a one year CD maturing at WAMU on the 13th, with a son going off to college, so I&#8217;ve been dreading this for WAMU, even though  <br />it would only be an inconvenienc&#8211;at least until the FDIC runs out of funds. We set up another account at Schwab as insurance in February when my wife received a bonus and half of the salary is going there, and I&#8217;m going to send my older son in CA some money to set up a second savings bank in a different bank than WAMU (probably BAC), as a backup. I recommend hedging your bets in some such fashion, in case the early 80s S&#038;L does replay. I hope not but think so.  </p>
<p>Lack</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lindmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lindmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, you all must be New Yorkers the way you are sticking up for him.  The guy was way off base and most likely using confidential information that he received as a privilige of his office.  Whoever else dropped the ball here will be debated and it should be but &lt;br/&gt;Schumer has a lot to answer for.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These were the thoughts I published when this broke and the article also carries a link to a decent article in the LA Times that also discusses the issue.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://blog.metro-real-estate.com/?p=664</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, you all must be New Yorkers the way you are sticking up for him.  The guy was way off base and most likely using confidential information that he received as a privilige of his office.  Whoever else dropped the ball here will be debated and it should be but <br />Schumer has a lot to answer for.</p>
<p>These were the thoughts I published when this broke and the article also carries a link to a decent article in the LA Times that also discusses the issue.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.metro-real-estate.com/?p=664" rel="nofollow">http://blog.metro-real-estate.com/?p=664</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the immediate cause&quot; of the failure was statements made by New York Democratic Senator Charles Schumer.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The reality is, there was a lack of GAAP accounting honesty and regulation by this government,  and this mess has been going on far too long!  Schumer is a hero in the face of almost 99% corruption and collusion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the immediate cause&#8221; of the failure was statements made by New York Democratic Senator Charles Schumer.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reality is, there was a lack of GAAP accounting honesty and regulation by this government,  and this mess has been going on far too long!  Schumer is a hero in the face of almost 99% corruption and collusion!</p>
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