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	<title>Comments on: Quelle Surprise! Credit Card Companies Opposed to Proposed Regulation</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It won&#039;t help most likely, to cross out clauses.  Unless BOTH parties agree in writing to the alteration it&#039;s unlikely to be effective.  Some credit card co&#039;s have an opt out for arbitration but few consumers know what it is or know to choose it.  MOST of these co&#039;s however, will not negotiate or offer an option to opt out.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Besides credit cards, other services you will find that use arbitration clauses nearly industry wide now are housing, home warranties, nursing home admission, computers and software, sports event tickets, admission to skating rinks, and much more.  While one may theoretically decide not to ever go skating or go to a game again, these days one cannot just decide not to have a phone, etc.  If the courts had upheld the intent of the Fed. Arbitration Act and left it for parties of equal bargaining strenth, and only in clauses that were not one sided or contracts of adhesion, we would not need legislation now to fix this.  But the courts have enforced unfair arbitration clauses and now the Arbitration Fairness Act is needed, to fix it.  Corporations are fighting this because they have been enjoying the benefits of a rigged kangaroo court system of their own devising for years and they don&#039;t want to again be subjet to public records and accountability that customers&#039; right to sue can result in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It won&#8217;t help most likely, to cross out clauses.  Unless BOTH parties agree in writing to the alteration it&#8217;s unlikely to be effective.  Some credit card co&#8217;s have an opt out for arbitration but few consumers know what it is or know to choose it.  MOST of these co&#8217;s however, will not negotiate or offer an option to opt out.</p>
<p>Besides credit cards, other services you will find that use arbitration clauses nearly industry wide now are housing, home warranties, nursing home admission, computers and software, sports event tickets, admission to skating rinks, and much more.  While one may theoretically decide not to ever go skating or go to a game again, these days one cannot just decide not to have a phone, etc.  If the courts had upheld the intent of the Fed. Arbitration Act and left it for parties of equal bargaining strenth, and only in clauses that were not one sided or contracts of adhesion, we would not need legislation now to fix this.  But the courts have enforced unfair arbitration clauses and now the Arbitration Fairness Act is needed, to fix it.  Corporations are fighting this because they have been enjoying the benefits of a rigged kangaroo court system of their own devising for years and they don&#8217;t want to again be subjet to public records and accountability that customers&#8217; right to sue can result in.</p>
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		<title>By: XS3</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/quelle-surprise-credit-card-companies.html#comment-10974</link>
		<dc:creator>XS3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same thoughts are mine as anonymous says. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot; www.stop-credit-card-debt.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Credit Card Debt&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same thoughts are mine as anonymous says. <br /><a HREF=" <a href="http://www.stop-credit-card-debt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stop-credit-card-debt.com</a>&#8221; REL=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>Credit Card Debt</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/quelle-surprise-credit-card-companies.html#comment-10605</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I urge everyone, if you are applying for a credit card, cross out and initial the clauses that you aren&#039;t comfortable with, such as the mandatory arbitration clause and clauses allowing the credit company to change the agreement without your permission.  Keep a photo copy of your agreement with the changes that you made before you submit the application to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I urge everyone, if you are applying for a credit card, cross out and initial the clauses that you aren&#8217;t comfortable with, such as the mandatory arbitration clause and clauses allowing the credit company to change the agreement without your permission.  Keep a photo copy of your agreement with the changes that you made before you submit the application to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/quelle-surprise-credit-card-companies.html#comment-10576</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the credit card lobby end up asking the politicians in DC: &quot;How much do you want?&quot; just watch how fast the proposed rules get watered down to nothing more than Botox on wrinkles.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Washington&#039;s deference to corporations has very few limits. The only example I can recall was the promulgation of the do-not-call list.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, I do not expect this situation to change significantly under an Obama presidency, unless a tsunami of change hit Congress too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The truth is: voters will have to become much more aggressive and militants if they want something meaningful to change in this country. Starting with the mainstream media, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the credit card lobby end up asking the politicians in DC: &#8220;How much do you want?&#8221; just watch how fast the proposed rules get watered down to nothing more than Botox on wrinkles.</p>
<p>Washington&#8217;s deference to corporations has very few limits. The only example I can recall was the promulgation of the do-not-call list.</p>
<p>By the way, I do not expect this situation to change significantly under an Obama presidency, unless a tsunami of change hit Congress too.</p>
<p>The truth is: voters will have to become much more aggressive and militants if they want something meaningful to change in this country. Starting with the mainstream media, of course.</p>
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