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		<title>By: Flow5</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/eye-candy-and-some-more-substantial.html#comment-12508</link>
		<dc:creator>Flow5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who are wont to minimize the ill effects of the deficit are prone to compare the size of the deficit with nominal GDP, as if the volume of nominal GDP were independent of the size of the deficit.  Unprecedented large deficits “absorb” a disproportionately large share of nominal GDP.  Present deficits are unprecedented no matter how measured, and the past gives us no reliable guide to the future effects of deficit financing, beneficial or otherwise.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To appraise the effect of the federal budget deficit on interest rates, it is necessary to compare the deficit, not to the debt to GDP ratio (a contrived figure), but to the VOLUME OF CURRENT SAVINGS made available to the credit markets.  The 2006 deficit (406 billion interest expense) is absorbing about 23 percent of gross private savings.  FY2006 total debt is the sum of: federal and state &amp; local governments, international, and private debt, incl. households, business and financial sector debts, and federal debt to trust funds (50.5 trillion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who are wont to minimize the ill effects of the deficit are prone to compare the size of the deficit with nominal GDP, as if the volume of nominal GDP were independent of the size of the deficit.  Unprecedented large deficits “absorb” a disproportionately large share of nominal GDP.  Present deficits are unprecedented no matter how measured, and the past gives us no reliable guide to the future effects of deficit financing, beneficial or otherwise.</p>
<p>To appraise the effect of the federal budget deficit on interest rates, it is necessary to compare the deficit, not to the debt to GDP ratio (a contrived figure), but to the VOLUME OF CURRENT SAVINGS made available to the credit markets.  The 2006 deficit (406 billion interest expense) is absorbing about 23 percent of gross private savings.  FY2006 total debt is the sum of: federal and state &amp; local governments, international, and private debt, incl. households, business and financial sector debts, and federal debt to trust funds (50.5 trillion).</p>
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		<title>By: Flow5</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/eye-candy-and-some-more-substantial.html#comment-12507</link>
		<dc:creator>Flow5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DIDMCA was responsible for MAE/MAC&#039;s accelerated growth.  Economists don&#039;t know the difference between banks &amp; non-banks.  The non-banks do not compete with the commercial banks. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As written in June 1980::&lt;br/&gt;One of the principal purposes of the Act was to provide the housing industry with a reliable source of funds. That may be achieved through various governmental and quasi-governmental corporations.But the role of the S&amp;Ls in housing finance will probably diminish significantly.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By becoming commercial banks and having a larger spectrum of loans to choose from, the S&amp;Ls will act like banks and whenever possible eschew “borrowing short and lending long”.  Sources of mortgage funds will shift from the subsidized rates heretofore provided by the small saver to “bond-backed” sources which will reflect the higher interest rates prevailing in the loan-funds markets.These factors combined with higher trend rates of inflation should result in a pronounced upward trend in mortgage financing costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DIDMCA was responsible for MAE/MAC&#39;s accelerated growth.  Economists don&#39;t know the difference between banks &amp; non-banks.  The non-banks do not compete with the commercial banks. </p>
<p>As written in June 1980::<br />One of the principal purposes of the Act was to provide the housing industry with a reliable source of funds. That may be achieved through various governmental and quasi-governmental corporations.But the role of the S&amp;Ls in housing finance will probably diminish significantly.  </p>
<p>By becoming commercial banks and having a larger spectrum of loans to choose from, the S&amp;Ls will act like banks and whenever possible eschew “borrowing short and lending long”.  Sources of mortgage funds will shift from the subsidized rates heretofore provided by the small saver to “bond-backed” sources which will reflect the higher interest rates prevailing in the loan-funds markets.These factors combined with higher trend rates of inflation should result in a pronounced upward trend in mortgage financing costs.</p>
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		<title>By: DMD</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/eye-candy-and-some-more-substantial.html#comment-12497</link>
		<dc:creator>DMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 years cars were crap.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;25 years ago, tires sucked.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;25 years ago, cars started breaking down after 2-3 years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;25 years ago, most people paid for gas with cash, not credit cards.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;25 years ago there were no cell phones. If you broke down, well, that *really* sucked.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Driving these days is much less stressful than 25 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 years cars were crap.</p>
<p>25 years ago, tires sucked.</p>
<p>25 years ago, cars started breaking down after 2-3 years.</p>
<p>25 years ago, most people paid for gas with cash, not credit cards.</p>
<p>25 years ago there were no cell phones. If you broke down, well, that *really* sucked.</p>
<p>Driving these days is much less stressful than 25 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: huw</title>
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		<dc:creator>huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one contributing factor must be the fact that over the last 25 years, the US population has grown by 72 million people ( or 31% ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one contributing factor must be the fact that over the last 25 years, the US population has grown by 72 million people ( or 31% ).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - great article, lots of meat, thank you !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; great article, lots of meat, thank you !</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;Cassandra&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#34;Cassandra&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: &quot;&quot;What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The chart explains more than you know, tying together  your question, fiscal problems, the credit crises, lack of energy policy, and why the nation choose this administration.....TWICE!!. For it is common knowledge amongst the cognoscenti (according to 1984 cult hit &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.film.com/movies/repo-man/6168774&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Repo Man&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;The more you drive, the stupider you get...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: &#8220;&#8221;What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why?&#8221;</p>
<p>The chart explains more than you know, tying together  your question, fiscal problems, the credit crises, lack of energy policy, and why the nation choose this administration&#8230;..TWICE!!. For it is common knowledge amongst the cognoscenti (according to 1984 cult hit <a HREF="http://www.film.com/movies/repo-man/6168774" REL="nofollow">Repo Man</a>: &#8220;The more you drive, the stupider you get&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the increase in miles driven, over and above the population increase, was due to longer commutes by workers living in &#039;xurbs&#039; beyond the suburbs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gasoline at $4+ per gallon might be part of the reason for quick mortgage walk aways in the &#039;xurban&#039; areas.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Given the choice of trading in two gas hogs for two econoboxes or walking away from a nonrecourse  mortgage, home buyers upside down on mortgages and without access to credit for the new fuel efficient vehicles are between a rock and a hard place. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps the Fed/Treasury should  concentrate on providing credit for econobox purchases?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t like the idea, just sayin&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;River</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the increase in miles driven, over and above the population increase, was due to longer commutes by workers living in &#8216;xurbs&#8217; beyond the suburbs.</p>
<p>Gasoline at $4+ per gallon might be part of the reason for quick mortgage walk aways in the &#8216;xurban&#8217; areas.</p>
<p>Given the choice of trading in two gas hogs for two econoboxes or walking away from a nonrecourse  mortgage, home buyers upside down on mortgages and without access to credit for the new fuel efficient vehicles are between a rock and a hard place. </p>
<p>Perhaps the Fed/Treasury should  concentrate on providing credit for econobox purchases?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea, just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>River</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why? The country didn&#039;t change size. Everybody just did more driving.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually the country did get bigger--in population. In 1970, there were only 203m Americans (33% more now). This will account for a good portion of the increase in driving (your measurement is in total miles driven) but not all of it. You&#039;ll need some econometric jiu-jitsu to figure out how much, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why? The country didn&#8217;t change size. Everybody just did more driving.</i></p>
<p>Actually the country did get bigger&#8211;in population. In 1970, there were only 203m Americans (33% more now). This will account for a good portion of the increase in driving (your measurement is in total miles driven) but not all of it. You&#8217;ll need some econometric jiu-jitsu to figure out how much, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why? The country didn&#039;t change size. Everybody just did more driving. It&#039;s hard for me to believe that that lead to an increase in quality of life (is driving per se a consumption good?) but that is just me. I would love to see this figure for Japan, Europe, China...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Betcha toenails to teacups that most of those extra miles resulted in SOME kind of economic exchange.  Even for the parking sessions under the bridge.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We drive to spend and spend to drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What also amazes me is that in 25 years the distance driven by Americans doubled. Why? The country didn&#8217;t change size. Everybody just did more driving. It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that that lead to an increase in quality of life (is driving per se a consumption good?) but that is just me. I would love to see this figure for Japan, Europe, China&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Betcha toenails to teacups that most of those extra miles resulted in SOME kind of economic exchange.  Even for the parking sessions under the bridge.</p>
<p>We drive to spend and spend to drive.</p>
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