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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/things-could-have-turned-out-otherwise.html#comment-12662</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I checked, you need to have a population and some form of industry to have an economy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;IF (and yes, Im a believer) global warming exists and if we do nothing, there&#039;ll be no economy or booms or busts to comment on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you think developing countries coal consumption is not close enough to home, try this: (BTW I do  not believe in denying developing nations achieving developed country standards of living either):&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;It takes five to 10 days for the pollution from China&#039;s coal-fired plants to make its way to the United States, like a slow-moving storm.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It shows up as mercury in the bass and trout caught in Oregon&#039;s Willamette River. It increases cloud cover and raises ozone levels. And along the way, it contributes to acid rain in Japan and South Korea and health problems everywhere from Taiyuan to the United States.&quot;  From:http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/11/chinas-dependence-on-coal.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, the above link was authored by Yves so you cant blame Mr Fitch.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For those that are interested,while we&#039;re sort of off-topic in this thread, I cant recommend the book &quot;Our Stolen Future&quot;  highly enough.  I just finished reading this book which was written 10 years ago and has some pretty important messages we need to be cognisant of.  I&#039;m shocked that I hadnt heard of it earlier and that it hasnt been the basis of a documentary as Al Gore&#039;s An Inconvenient Truth has - btw, Al Gore wrote the preface in OSF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked, you need to have a population and some form of industry to have an economy.</p>
<p>IF (and yes, Im a believer) global warming exists and if we do nothing, there&#8217;ll be no economy or booms or busts to comment on.</p>
<p>If you think developing countries coal consumption is not close enough to home, try this: (BTW I do  not believe in denying developing nations achieving developed country standards of living either):</p>
<p>&#8220;It takes five to 10 days for the pollution from China&#8217;s coal-fired plants to make its way to the United States, like a slow-moving storm.</p>
<p>It shows up as mercury in the bass and trout caught in Oregon&#8217;s Willamette River. It increases cloud cover and raises ozone levels. And along the way, it contributes to acid rain in Japan and South Korea and health problems everywhere from Taiyuan to the United States.&#8221;  From:http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/11/chinas-dependence-on-coal.html</p>
<p>By the way, the above link was authored by Yves so you cant blame Mr Fitch.</p>
<p>For those that are interested,while we&#8217;re sort of off-topic in this thread, I cant recommend the book &#8220;Our Stolen Future&#8221;  highly enough.  I just finished reading this book which was written 10 years ago and has some pretty important messages we need to be cognisant of.  I&#8217;m shocked that I hadnt heard of it earlier and that it hasnt been the basis of a documentary as Al Gore&#8217;s An Inconvenient Truth has &#8211; btw, Al Gore wrote the preface in OSF.</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
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		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Duncan +1. Amazing how we&#039;ve gone from global cooling, to global warming, to now catch all &quot;climate change.&quot; Well around the NW where I live, the climate changes about every 4 months..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Duncan +1. Amazing how we&#8217;ve gone from global cooling, to global warming, to now catch all &#8220;climate change.&#8221; Well around the NW where I live, the climate changes about every 4 months..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Fitch&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your point of view. I don&#039;t agree with some of your points, appreciate the tongue-in-cheek irony in others, and the off beat delivery. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have no idea where the non-regular commentators have come from. I suspect they may normally not get through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Fitch</p>
<p>Thanks for your point of view. I don&#8217;t agree with some of your points, appreciate the tongue-in-cheek irony in others, and the off beat delivery. </p>
<p>I have no idea where the non-regular commentators have come from. I suspect they may normally not get through.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/things-could-have-turned-out-otherwise.html#comment-12647</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the single most effective thing we could do to save energy, with a major immediate payback greater than the cost of doing it, is insulate all the housing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, including all the housing owned by unwilling landlords and rented by people who pay for their heat,awhere there&#039;s a stupid economy trap preventing action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the single most effective thing we could do to save energy, with a major immediate payback greater than the cost of doing it, is insulate all the housing.</p>
<p>Yes, including all the housing owned by unwilling landlords and rented by people who pay for their heat,awhere there&#8217;s a stupid economy trap preventing action.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What was the world population before the industrial revolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>What was the world population before the industrial revolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/things-could-have-turned-out-otherwise.html#comment-12640</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;whiners&#039; are simply leaving a comment where it is appropriate. Or should we simply clap our hands in praise and bat our lashes when anything is posted on this site?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t appreciate another point of view, it&#039;s just that this point of view seems to be so &#039;off&#039; from the previous posts. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Granted, the author has much insight and wit, but it&#039;s the emotionally laid bombs of his style that gets my gonads. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why should I complain? I can read and listen to this type of self-righteous, looking down on anyone else that doesn&#039;t &#039;get&#039; it, world view on any other blog and news channel. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Count me as one reader who no longer visits this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;whiners&#8217; are simply leaving a comment where it is appropriate. Or should we simply clap our hands in praise and bat our lashes when anything is posted on this site?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t appreciate another point of view, it&#8217;s just that this point of view seems to be so &#8216;off&#8217; from the previous posts. </p>
<p>Granted, the author has much insight and wit, but it&#8217;s the emotionally laid bombs of his style that gets my gonads. </p>
<p>Why should I complain? I can read and listen to this type of self-righteous, looking down on anyone else that doesn&#8217;t &#8216;get&#8217; it, world view on any other blog and news channel. </p>
<p>Count me as one reader who no longer visits this site.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a suggestion for all the whiners and complainers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At the top of each of Jim&#039;s posts, you will see the words &quot;This post is by Jim Fitch of Some Assembly Required.&quot; If you are more than 5 minutes out of bed, you will also recognize the unique style and coloration of his posts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At that point, STOP and move on. Don&#039;t read on and get yourself all worked up in a lather and then muck up the comments section with your nasty and personalized attacks. Some of us enjoy the format and &quot;get&quot; the sarcasm that you seem to miss. I like Jim&#039;s posts. I am not a raving leftist. However, I do not care for raving-extreme-right people who haven&#039;t the time of day for an opinion other than their own. Blinders are for horses, not people.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, one other thing. Yves DESERVES a vacation, and has tried to accommodate all of us in her absence. Let&#039;s try to show a little respect for that too, rather than making - or trying to make - her feel guilty for not being here 365 days a year at no cost to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion for all the whiners and complainers.</p>
<p>At the top of each of Jim&#8217;s posts, you will see the words &#8220;This post is by Jim Fitch of Some Assembly Required.&#8221; If you are more than 5 minutes out of bed, you will also recognize the unique style and coloration of his posts.</p>
<p>At that point, STOP and move on. Don&#8217;t read on and get yourself all worked up in a lather and then muck up the comments section with your nasty and personalized attacks. Some of us enjoy the format and &#8220;get&#8221; the sarcasm that you seem to miss. I like Jim&#8217;s posts. I am not a raving leftist. However, I do not care for raving-extreme-right people who haven&#8217;t the time of day for an opinion other than their own. Blinders are for horses, not people.</p>
<p>Oh, one other thing. Yves DESERVES a vacation, and has tried to accommodate all of us in her absence. Let&#8217;s try to show a little respect for that too, rather than making &#8211; or trying to make &#8211; her feel guilty for not being here 365 days a year at no cost to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, what drabble.  How long before Yves gets back to the keyboard?  This guy offers nothing that I can&#039;t dredge up on dozens of other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, what drabble.  How long before Yves gets back to the keyboard?  This guy offers nothing that I can&#8217;t dredge up on dozens of other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for pity sake,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You still have the right to write whatever you want and Jim is just pointing out some stories that suggest that Bush is a crook for trying to spook people into thinking that Friends Of Angelo that are well connected to lobby groups should continue to rule the world and do as much harm as they can get away with; if I&#039;m the guy in charge, these bastards would all be hung as examples of corruption and treason  -- ok that was harsh, I&#039;d let them rot in prison and take the money they stole and give it back to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for pity sake,</p>
<p>You still have the right to write whatever you want and Jim is just pointing out some stories that suggest that Bush is a crook for trying to spook people into thinking that Friends Of Angelo that are well connected to lobby groups should continue to rule the world and do as much harm as they can get away with; if I&#8217;m the guy in charge, these bastards would all be hung as examples of corruption and treason  &#8212; ok that was harsh, I&#8217;d let them rot in prison and take the money they stole and give it back to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/things-could-have-turned-out-otherwise.html#comment-12634</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve enjoyed these the last few days, but today&#039;s is pure crap. Maybe he should stick to the economic and housing issues. He apparently believes in the most alarmist version of apocolyptic global warming, but thinks the islamists just &quot;knocked down a couple of buildings&quot;. Those are not level headed priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed these the last few days, but today&#8217;s is pure crap. Maybe he should stick to the economic and housing issues. He apparently believes in the most alarmist version of apocolyptic global warming, but thinks the islamists just &#8220;knocked down a couple of buildings&#8221;. Those are not level headed priorities.</p>
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