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	<title>Comments on: AIG Stay of Execution: Holding Company Can Access $20 Billion of Subsidiary Capital</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/agi-stay-of-execution-holding-company.html#comment-15418</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lori.  Fred made some good points.  I would however, go to your local state insurance Dept. for assistance.  Get the exact name of the insurer that has the annuity.  It might not be AIG.  I suspect it might be National Union Fire Ins. Co.  As long as Nat&#039;. Union or whomever is &#039;admitted&#039; in your state, the Ins. Dept. will have jurisdiction.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whatever you do, don&#039;t go to one of those viatical settlement companies until you talk to your state Ins. Dept.  Good luck.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;weinerdog43</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lori.  Fred made some good points.  I would however, go to your local state insurance Dept. for assistance.  Get the exact name of the insurer that has the annuity.  It might not be AIG.  I suspect it might be National Union Fire Ins. Co.  As long as Nat&#8217;. Union or whomever is &#8216;admitted&#8217; in your state, the Ins. Dept. will have jurisdiction.  </p>
<p>Whatever you do, don&#8217;t go to one of those viatical settlement companies until you talk to your state Ins. Dept.  Good luck.</p>
<p>weinerdog43</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no reason for AIG to access the Fed directly - other than to save costs.  Why can&#039;t AIG do a back-to-back loan with one of its bankers.  AIG loans $40b whatevers to BankerA, who pleadges the $40b whatevers with the Fed (who will literally take whatever) for a say $30b loan at 2.25%.  BankerA loans $30b to AIG at 6.25%.  AIG gets their funding, BankerA gets a nice fat margin and crisis is deferred for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no reason for AIG to access the Fed directly &#8211; other than to save costs.  Why can&#8217;t AIG do a back-to-back loan with one of its bankers.  AIG loans $40b whatevers to BankerA, who pleadges the $40b whatevers with the Fed (who will literally take whatever) for a say $30b loan at 2.25%.  BankerA loans $30b to AIG at 6.25%.  AIG gets their funding, BankerA gets a nice fat margin and crisis is deferred for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: fred55</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>without details, i can only guess the following:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(a) the aig company behind the annuity is not the parent&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(b) whatever state its in is making sure its adequately capitalized (except in ny, where they are whores now)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(c) the other annuity companies in that state will step in and make up whatever can be made up to protect the industry&#039;s reputation&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(d) if you arent going to sleep about this, GET ON THE FONE AND CALL YOUR LAWER AND ASK THE FOLLOWING:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;was the contractual payment obligation satisfied by purchase of the annuity, or was it merely suspended by purchase of the annuity and if the annuity becomes impaired there is a residual payment im entitled to from the defendant&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without details, i can only guess the following:</p>
<p>(a) the aig company behind the annuity is not the parent</p>
<p>(b) whatever state its in is making sure its adequately capitalized (except in ny, where they are whores now)</p>
<p>(c) the other annuity companies in that state will step in and make up whatever can be made up to protect the industry&#8217;s reputation</p>
<p>(d) if you arent going to sleep about this, GET ON THE FONE AND CALL YOUR LAWER AND ASK THE FOLLOWING:</p>
<p>&#8220;was the contractual payment obligation satisfied by purchase of the annuity, or was it merely suspended by purchase of the annuity and if the annuity becomes impaired there is a residual payment im entitled to from the defendant&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, perhaps i spoke too soon: i now see in the wsj that there are the first rumored buffett sightings:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20080915-712530.html?mod=hps_us_my_companies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, perhaps i spoke too soon: i now see in the wsj that there are the first rumored buffett sightings:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20080915-712530.html?mod=hps_us_my_companies" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20080915-712530.html?mod=hps_us_my_companies</a></p>
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		<title>By: howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact that warren buffet hasn&#039;t shown any interest in AIG (at least as far as i can tell; admittedly, he could just be discrete) is, to me, an enormous &quot;tell,&quot; and what it&#039;s &quot;telling&quot; isn&#039;t happy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact that warren buffet hasn&#8217;t shown any interest in AIG (at least as far as i can tell; admittedly, he could just be discrete) is, to me, an enormous &#8220;tell,&#8221; and what it&#8217;s &#8220;telling&#8221; isn&#8217;t happy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mxq</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;in a market economy, no-one has the responsibility for &quot;helping&quot; a company&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a market economy the stakeholders have a responsibility for helping a company.  Unless of course the stakeholders don&#039;t care. But I seriously doubt that&#039;s the case, given AIG&#039;s massive presence in innumerable markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;in a market economy, no-one has the responsibility for &#8220;helping&#8221; a company&#8221;</p>
<p>In a market economy the stakeholders have a responsibility for helping a company.  Unless of course the stakeholders don&#8217;t care. But I seriously doubt that&#8217;s the case, given AIG&#8217;s massive presence in innumerable markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being someone whos lively-hood depends on an AIG court-ordered structured settlement from a lide altering car accident a couple years ago, I would like to know how this &quot;mess&quot; is going to affect my settlement payments.  I called the annuity division and asked the obvious questions and was assured the court-ordered structured settlement annuities are safe.  Can anyone shed any light on this situation? I am worried.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being someone whos lively-hood depends on an AIG court-ordered structured settlement from a lide altering car accident a couple years ago, I would like to know how this &#8220;mess&#8221; is going to affect my settlement payments.  I called the annuity division and asked the obvious questions and was assured the court-ordered structured settlement annuities are safe.  Can anyone shed any light on this situation? I am worried.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Lori</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we don&#039;t know who has the responsibility ..[for]..helping AIG&quot;: in a market economy, no-one has the responsibility for &quot;helping&quot; a company, thank goodness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we don&#8217;t know who has the responsibility ..[for]..helping AIG&#8221;: in a market economy, no-one has the responsibility for &#8220;helping&#8221; a company, thank goodness.</p>
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		<title>By: mxq</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/agi-stay-of-execution-holding-company.html#comment-15362</link>
		<dc:creator>mxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cramer had some good points re: AIG and that business model:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;If you insure something, it had better be quantifiable. If you insure property, you&#039;d better know how much the property is worth. If you insure lives, you&#039;d better know how much exposure you have. If you insure autos, you&#039;d better know the accident rate...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But if you insure the unquantifiable, you are in a different position. If you insure financial instruments and you can&#039;t assess how much you are insuring, then you are taking on a level of risk that is too difficult to handle. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s what AIG (AIG) did. It wrote policy after policy insuring mortgages and mortgage portfolios of all shapes and sizes, not just in the United States but in Europe. Especially in Europe. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s why AIG is so difficult. We don&#039;t have federal regulation of insurance and we don&#039;t have cross-border regulation of insurance. So we don&#039;t know who has the responsibility of regulating or even helping AIG.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cramer had some good points re: AIG and that business model:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you insure something, it had better be quantifiable. If you insure property, you&#8217;d better know how much the property is worth. If you insure lives, you&#8217;d better know how much exposure you have. If you insure autos, you&#8217;d better know the accident rate&#8230;</p>
<p>But if you insure the unquantifiable, you are in a different position. If you insure financial instruments and you can&#8217;t assess how much you are insuring, then you are taking on a level of risk that is too difficult to handle. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what AIG (AIG) did. It wrote policy after policy insuring mortgages and mortgage portfolios of all shapes and sizes, not just in the United States but in Europe. Especially in Europe. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why AIG is so difficult. We don&#8217;t have federal regulation of insurance and we don&#8217;t have cross-border regulation of insurance. So we don&#8217;t know who has the responsibility of regulating or even helping AIG.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems here if RE turns around and rockets up next month. If not, the government bailout comes later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems here if RE turns around and rockets up next month. If not, the government bailout comes later.</p>
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