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		<title>By: RK</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/bailout-scare-mongering-another-bank.html#comment-18013</link>
		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earth to Senator Bennett!  Earth to Senator Bennett!!  &lt;br/&gt;Treasury Bills are COMMERCIAL PAPER.  It&#039;s just that&lt;br/&gt;the enterprise only posts a profit (surplus) once every&lt;br/&gt;10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earth to Senator Bennett!  Earth to Senator Bennett!!  <br />Treasury Bills are COMMERCIAL PAPER.  It&#8217;s just that<br />the enterprise only posts a profit (surplus) once every<br />10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/bailout-scare-mongering-another-bank.html#comment-17894</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Matt, I should let this pass, but I can&#039;t re:  Petraeus in your simile.  Now, I won&#039;t dispute that he is a competent military commander and better than those he replace; having studied many, I think that this is a true statement.  But the changes in Iraq had _NOTHING_ to do with his abilities, and hence do not correlate with his capacities.  This is a long analysis not really fitting for this context, so I won&#039;t go over that contention now.  But Petraeus and his three myriads had really nothing to do with the changes in the insurgency, and I mean that advisedly; in fact, he was taken by surprise by those changes, and they had begun before he was appointed.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I say this because the analogies which will be drawn from our Iraq experience will have major implications for the next major foreign wars we insert ourselves into, and more are coming, in the mid-term if not in the next Administration.  And the &#039;Petraeus succeeded, and because he was better&#039; meme will do us a world of damage in due course, despite it&#039;s substantive inaccuracy.  I will be arguing this for years, but our getting this wrong now---and the country _has_ gotten it wrong, and so will remember it wrongly---will have deep costs down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Matt, I should let this pass, but I can&#8217;t re:  Petraeus in your simile.  Now, I won&#8217;t dispute that he is a competent military commander and better than those he replace; having studied many, I think that this is a true statement.  But the changes in Iraq had _NOTHING_ to do with his abilities, and hence do not correlate with his capacities.  This is a long analysis not really fitting for this context, so I won&#8217;t go over that contention now.  But Petraeus and his three myriads had really nothing to do with the changes in the insurgency, and I mean that advisedly; in fact, he was taken by surprise by those changes, and they had begun before he was appointed.  </p>
<p>I say this because the analogies which will be drawn from our Iraq experience will have major implications for the next major foreign wars we insert ourselves into, and more are coming, in the mid-term if not in the next Administration.  And the &#8216;Petraeus succeeded, and because he was better&#8217; meme will do us a world of damage in due course, despite it&#8217;s substantive inaccuracy.  I will be arguing this for years, but our getting this wrong now&#8212;and the country _has_ gotten it wrong, and so will remember it wrongly&#8212;will have deep costs down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/bailout-scare-mongering-another-bank.html#comment-17890</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is this a bug or a feature? If the Treasury is trying to keep panic up so it can get the bailout bill passed, that is simply heinous.&quot;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Feature.  Paulson and the kleptocrats are not above holding the country hostage to get what they want.  Oh, I suspect that they really believe that their choice is the best one.  But there is more than an odour of blackmail in how this &#039;crisis&#039; of the last two weeks has proceeded.  The bondmarkets know that they will face a Democratic Congress and Administration, and even after Election night they will be cut off fromt he kind of steal they are trying to bullrush through now, so if they are going to siphon off public funds to make good their bets they have five weeks---but really once Congress adjourns that&#039;s it.  This entire process is odious, only matched by the total failure of national political leadership of all stripes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is this a bug or a feature? If the Treasury is trying to keep panic up so it can get the bailout bill passed, that is simply heinous.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Feature.  Paulson and the kleptocrats are not above holding the country hostage to get what they want.  Oh, I suspect that they really believe that their choice is the best one.  But there is more than an odour of blackmail in how this &#8216;crisis&#8217; of the last two weeks has proceeded.  The bondmarkets know that they will face a Democratic Congress and Administration, and even after Election night they will be cut off fromt he kind of steal they are trying to bullrush through now, so if they are going to siphon off public funds to make good their bets they have five weeks&#8212;but really once Congress adjourns that&#8217;s it.  This entire process is odious, only matched by the total failure of national political leadership of all stripes.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If so many Congresspeople insist on this plan (while others oppose it for reasons that are not entirely, hmmm, facts-based?), despite a tremendous opposition from the voters at 40 days from elections, the question becomes: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cui bono? What&#039;s in it for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so many Congresspeople insist on this plan (while others oppose it for reasons that are not entirely, hmmm, facts-based?), despite a tremendous opposition from the voters at 40 days from elections, the question becomes: </p>
<p>Cui bono? What&#8217;s in it for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Treasury has not implemented the program, merely announced that it was coming and left it hanging. Check the website. They have not provided any details, merely a sketch and a promise more was coming. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Remember, this is a VOLUNTARY program, and participating money market funds must pay a fee of some sort. This is not something the Treasury is doing unilaterally. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Treasury has not provided any details of what the charges will be and how to participate and thus no money funds appear to have signed up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is confirmed by readers who have called their money fund and have been told that they are waiting for details of what the program will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>The Treasury has not implemented the program, merely announced that it was coming and left it hanging. Check the website. They have not provided any details, merely a sketch and a promise more was coming. </p>
<p>Remember, this is a VOLUNTARY program, and participating money market funds must pay a fee of some sort. This is not something the Treasury is doing unilaterally. </p>
<p>The Treasury has not provided any details of what the charges will be and how to participate and thus no money funds appear to have signed up.</p>
<p>This is confirmed by readers who have called their money fund and have been told that they are waiting for details of what the program will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Treasury took all the teeth out of the MMF plan almost immediately because it started a run on the banks.  Had they kept it in place, the same thing was about to happen in reverse -- the banks flooding the markets with paper to meet withdrawals.  The FDIC couldn&#039;t carry the weight of the failures that would line up, and the Treasury has (rightfully) taken the plan down, down, down ever since.  Last update I heard - which was not publicized by anyone other than the ABA - is that the plan is subject to a 90 day trial period, to be continued if successful.  No major fund company is going to take the gov&#039;t up on the offer.  They&#039;ll cut deep into their own fees with the premium, and they&#039;ll kill one of their best tools - the bank channel.  None of these firms have the capacity to run individual accounts on a retail / commercial level, nor are they going to want to meet the Patriot Act burdens of the banks even if they could gear up for small accounts.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The commercial paper market is done one way or the other, unless they let AAAs borrow right off the Fed facility.  I don&#039;t know if any of the lawmakers have the stomach for that.  If only the $50b were enough to capitalize a new, private sector bank who could pick up the slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Treasury took all the teeth out of the MMF plan almost immediately because it started a run on the banks.  Had they kept it in place, the same thing was about to happen in reverse &#8212; the banks flooding the markets with paper to meet withdrawals.  The FDIC couldn&#8217;t carry the weight of the failures that would line up, and the Treasury has (rightfully) taken the plan down, down, down ever since.  Last update I heard &#8211; which was not publicized by anyone other than the ABA &#8211; is that the plan is subject to a 90 day trial period, to be continued if successful.  No major fund company is going to take the gov&#8217;t up on the offer.  They&#8217;ll cut deep into their own fees with the premium, and they&#8217;ll kill one of their best tools &#8211; the bank channel.  None of these firms have the capacity to run individual accounts on a retail / commercial level, nor are they going to want to meet the Patriot Act burdens of the banks even if they could gear up for small accounts.  </p>
<p>The commercial paper market is done one way or the other, unless they let AAAs borrow right off the Fed facility.  I don&#8217;t know if any of the lawmakers have the stomach for that.  If only the $50b were enough to capitalize a new, private sector bank who could pick up the slack.</p>
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		<title>By: David Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Fortis sold off their US insurance operations in 2004.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yves, the Fed has earmarked $70 billion for the money market fund bailout... that&#039;s from the current H.4.1 report.  Where are you hearing that the money funds aren&#039;t being supported?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Brad Setser thinks that the changes in the Fed&#039;s balance sheet may be driving the panic in DC.  I think he might be right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://alephblog.com/2008/09/26/entering-the-endgame-for-monetary-policy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Fortis sold off their US insurance operations in 2004.</p>
<p>Yves, the Fed has earmarked $70 billion for the money market fund bailout&#8230; that&#8217;s from the current H.4.1 report.  Where are you hearing that the money funds aren&#8217;t being supported?</p>
<p>Brad Setser thinks that the changes in the Fed&#8217;s balance sheet may be driving the panic in DC.  I think he might be right.</p>
<p><a href="http://alephblog.com/2008/09/26/entering-the-endgame-for-monetary-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://alephblog.com/2008/09/26/entering-the-endgame-for-monetary-policy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Knute Rife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knute Rife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should it be any surprise that the junior senator from Utah is just as big a...um...&quot;booster&quot;, yeah that&#039;s it, of the White House party line as the senior senator from Utah?  Or that his grasp on the facts when engaging in such boosterism should be any more tenuous?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for Stein, can anyone tell me with a straight face that he hasn&#039;t been pushing for deregulation and &quot;free markets&quot; for years with the rest of them?  There are those of us who saw the thrift crisis coming out of Garn-St. Germaine and the current mess coming out of Gramm-Leach-Bliley, but do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; number Stein with us Cassandras.  And his grasp of CDSs is positively Reaganish in its masking of incomprehension as simplification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should it be any surprise that the junior senator from Utah is just as big a&#8230;um&#8230;&#8221;booster&#8221;, yeah that&#8217;s it, of the White House party line as the senior senator from Utah?  Or that his grasp on the facts when engaging in such boosterism should be any more tenuous?</p>
<p>As for Stein, can anyone tell me with a straight face that he hasn&#8217;t been pushing for deregulation and &#8220;free markets&#8221; for years with the rest of them?  There are those of us who saw the thrift crisis coming out of Garn-St. Germaine and the current mess coming out of Gramm-Leach-Bliley, but do <i>not</i> number Stein with us Cassandras.  And his grasp of CDSs is positively Reaganish in its masking of incomprehension as simplification.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pres Debate:&lt;br/&gt;John McCain showed a disturbing preference for highlighting the rights of war veterans.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe there is a Zimbabwe solution in the works.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ohhh......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pres Debate:<br />John McCain showed a disturbing preference for highlighting the rights of war veterans.</p>
<p>Maybe there is a Zimbabwe solution in the works.   </p>
<p>Ohhh&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOOPER whores showing &#039;honesty&#039; and &#039;courage&#039;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As far as I can tell, their main objection was to the &#039;equity kickers&#039; added by the Democrats.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The GOOPERS have led this country to ruin but at least we have creationism taught in our schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOOPER whores showing &#8216;honesty&#8217; and &#8216;courage&#8217;. </p>
<p>As far as I can tell, their main objection was to the &#8216;equity kickers&#8217; added by the Democrats.</p>
<p>The GOOPERS have led this country to ruin but at least we have creationism taught in our schools.</p>
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