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	<title>Comments on: Bank of America, Merrill in Merger Talks (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: bg</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/bank-of-america-merrill-in-merger-talks.html#comment-15223</link>
		<dc:creator>bg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122142278543033525.html?mod=special_coverage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Merrill now belongs to BofA for $44B.  Approved by both boards.</description>
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<p>Merrill now belongs to BofA for $44B.  Approved by both boards.</p>
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		<title>By: Been there</title>
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		<dc:creator>Been there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard one of the commentators on the Cavuto Business Report state a few minutes ago that it didn’t make sense that BAC would offer $25 to $30 per share for Merrill when Merrill finished below $20 on Friday. He further stated that he thought there was some misrepresentation/ or other problem with the published purchase price. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How ‘bout this. My understanding is that the purchase is an all stock purchase.  BAC sees the purchase as fair in terms of what its own share price might fall to when the falling dominoes reach their front door- if they sit tight and choose to do nothing. Smart play for them(while their stock still has some value) is to grow BAC large enough(by absorbing Merrill)  so that the Feds are forced to step in and backstop them. The purchase price offered by BAC says a lot more about what BAC thinks its own ultimate share price may be worth if they were subsequently targeted by the shorts. Ultimately, increasing the likelihood of Fed backing reduces the threat posed by the shorts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wish I were wrong because this argument implies nothing more than pure desperation on BAC’s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard one of the commentators on the Cavuto Business Report state a few minutes ago that it didn’t make sense that BAC would offer $25 to $30 per share for Merrill when Merrill finished below $20 on Friday. He further stated that he thought there was some misrepresentation/ or other problem with the published purchase price. </p>
<p>How ‘bout this. My understanding is that the purchase is an all stock purchase.  BAC sees the purchase as fair in terms of what its own share price might fall to when the falling dominoes reach their front door- if they sit tight and choose to do nothing. Smart play for them(while their stock still has some value) is to grow BAC large enough(by absorbing Merrill)  so that the Feds are forced to step in and backstop them. The purchase price offered by BAC says a lot more about what BAC thinks its own ultimate share price may be worth if they were subsequently targeted by the shorts. Ultimately, increasing the likelihood of Fed backing reduces the threat posed by the shorts.</p>
<p>Wish I were wrong because this argument implies nothing more than pure desperation on BAC’s part.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dubuque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dubuque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just back from a very large picnic in the California hills with 30 friends.  A real nice break.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Abbott, Hank&#039;s bazooka isn&#039;t very effective in a nuclear war battlespace, with nuclear implosions going off everywhere, 15 megaton Fannie here, 7 megaton Freddie there, 12 megaton Lehman here, 4 megaton Merrill over there, 25 megaton AIG coming right at us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We need more than clown with a bazooka who can barely shoot straight.  We need Volcker and James Baker, the best Fed/Treasury duo in history, and I&#039;m no Republican.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As previously stated, there is only so much  the Fed can do.  We need a global response.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Dubuque</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just back from a very large picnic in the California hills with 30 friends.  A real nice break.</p>
<p>Abbott, Hank&#8217;s bazooka isn&#8217;t very effective in a nuclear war battlespace, with nuclear implosions going off everywhere, 15 megaton Fannie here, 7 megaton Freddie there, 12 megaton Lehman here, 4 megaton Merrill over there, 25 megaton AIG coming right at us.</p>
<p>We need more than clown with a bazooka who can barely shoot straight.  We need Volcker and James Baker, the best Fed/Treasury duo in history, and I&#8217;m no Republican.</p>
<p>As previously stated, there is only so much  the Fed can do.  We need a global response.</p>
<p>Matt Dubuque</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes agreements inplace for Bloom. Not Black due to credit rating issues. AIG now reported to be moving money from reg subs to the holdco. calling bs on MER/BAC rumor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes agreements inplace for Bloom. Not Black due to credit rating issues. AIG now reported to be moving money from reg subs to the holdco. calling bs on MER/BAC rumor</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Didn&#039;t MER already sell their Bloomberg back to Bloomberg?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s,</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t MER already sell their Bloomberg back to Bloomberg?</p>
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		<title>By: Abbott_Of_Iona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbott_Of_Iona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If BoA are doing a deal with Merrill it is clear the Lehman are going into BK.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Merril were next.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s were Hank is going to use the last shot of his bazooka.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Roubinni(?) is right. The is the meltdown of the secondary banking system.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do BoA have ehough capital to bail out Merrill?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Have the Fed &amp; Treasury both run out of money.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Japan &amp; China may be closed tomorrow. But they will wake up on Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If BoA are doing a deal with Merrill it is clear the Lehman are going into BK.</p>
<p>Merril were next.</p>
<p>That&#39;s were Hank is going to use the last shot of his bazooka.</p>
<p>Roubinni(?) is right. The is the meltdown of the secondary banking system.</p>
<p>Do BoA have ehough capital to bail out Merrill?</p>
<p>Have the Fed &amp; Treasury both run out of money.</p>
<p>Japan &amp; China may be closed tomorrow. But they will wake up on Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e5f996...? nclick_check=1&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;FT article on Fuld arrogance. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why did it take MSM until LEH is filing for Chapter 7/11/13 (?) to figure out that he is part of the problem? SHouldn;t it have been obvious after his arrogant comments after the fed opened the window to save LEH. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whewre is NY Fed press release saying he is off the board? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;MER has $100 billion per 10Q in deposits. Plus a $10B stake in Blackstone and $5B in bloomberg. $44 billion in level 3 assets and approx $30B in tangible equity. fully diluted shares approx $2B against the 995M used for common calc. If converted for all the preferred out, valuation will not be good for common holders.</description>
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<p>FT article on Fuld arrogance. </p>
<p>Why did it take MSM until LEH is filing for Chapter 7/11/13 (?) to figure out that he is part of the problem? SHouldn;t it have been obvious after his arrogant comments after the fed opened the window to save LEH. </p>
<p>Whewre is NY Fed press release saying he is off the board? </p>
<p>MER has $100 billion per 10Q in deposits. Plus a $10B stake in Blackstone and $5B in bloomberg. $44 billion in level 3 assets and approx $30B in tangible equity. fully diluted shares approx $2B against the 995M used for common calc. If converted for all the preferred out, valuation will not be good for common holders.</p>
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		<title>By: mxq</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If MER needs capital, Thain should get the boot.  They should&#039;ve just done a 50% equity raise back in July - I have no idea if Temasek wanted it or not, but either way, they&#039;re now at a 50% discount to post-July capital raise levels. Unbelievable.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Even worse, Thain goes on CNBC and says &quot;as of this exact millisecond, we are well-capitalized.&quot;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great...thanks, John.  Now, given you are CEO, do you mind telling us how well you are capitalized for, say, tomorrow, or maybe a month from now...you are capable of thinking beyond the current millisecond, aren&#039;t you?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If MER needs capital, Thain should get the boot.  They should&#8217;ve just done a 50% equity raise back in July &#8211; I have no idea if Temasek wanted it or not, but either way, they&#8217;re now at a 50% discount to post-July capital raise levels. Unbelievable.  </p>
<p>Even worse, Thain goes on CNBC and says &#8220;as of this exact millisecond, we are well-capitalized.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Great&#8230;thanks, John.  Now, given you are CEO, do you mind telling us how well you are capitalized for, say, tomorrow, or maybe a month from now&#8230;you are capable of thinking beyond the current millisecond, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the very least, entering negotiations should give short sellers pause tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the very least, entering negotiations should give short sellers pause tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; I don&#039;t disagree. Thain does not have ego in having Merrill survive as an independent entity, as Fuld did, and he is more conservative by temperament (I worked with him briefly early in our respective careers). But conversely, this also says that he thinks the odds of Merrill not making it are high enough that a sale is the best option. It may be that he realizes the that odds of  a Roubini-esque run on brokerages is real.  I had people months ago, long before Merrill in particular was a focus of concern, asking whether it was safe to keep their accounts there. That says that nervousness about the  securities industry is widespread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a,</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t disagree. Thain does not have ego in having Merrill survive as an independent entity, as Fuld did, and he is more conservative by temperament (I worked with him briefly early in our respective careers). But conversely, this also says that he thinks the odds of Merrill not making it are high enough that a sale is the best option. It may be that he realizes the that odds of  a Roubini-esque run on brokerages is real.  I had people months ago, long before Merrill in particular was a focus of concern, asking whether it was safe to keep their accounts there. That says that nervousness about the  securities industry is widespread.</p>
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