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		<title>By: Cash Mundy</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/lehman-options-limited-firm-hires.html#comment-34356</link>
		<dc:creator>Cash Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How quaint! Some kind of Nigerian scammer from India! I thought they generally spoke fluent English in India, but it looks like Baldev Raj fell off the boat from somewhere else, or lacks a first language entirely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Registrant : &lt;br/&gt; Name: Baldev Raj&lt;br/&gt; Organization: Top Bricks Realtors PVT LTD&lt;br/&gt; Address: Greater Noida Shopping Complex,&lt;br/&gt; City: Noida&lt;br/&gt; State: Delhi&lt;br/&gt; Postal Code: 201301&lt;br/&gt; Country: IN&lt;br/&gt; Phone: 9892870097&lt;br/&gt; Fax: &lt;br/&gt; Email: baldev1953@gmail.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Domain : lawyersindemand.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How quaint! Some kind of Nigerian scammer from India! I thought they generally spoke fluent English in India, but it looks like Baldev Raj fell off the boat from somewhere else, or lacks a first language entirely.</p>
<p> Registrant : <br /> Name: Baldev Raj<br /> Organization: Top Bricks Realtors PVT LTD<br /> Address: Greater Noida Shopping Complex,<br /> City: Noida<br /> State: Delhi<br /> Postal Code: 201301<br /> Country: IN<br /> Phone: 9892870097<br /> Fax: <br /> Email: <a href="mailto:baldev1953@gmail.com">baldev1953@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>  Domain : lawyersindemand.com</p>
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		<title>By: law offices</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/lehman-options-limited-firm-hires.html#comment-34301</link>
		<dc:creator>law offices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United States of America provides several specialized and professional &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.lawyersindemand.com/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bankruptcy legal services &lt;/a&gt;that are expert in the legal area of bankruptcy. The bankruptcy attorneys provide the best and strong legal suggestion and legal services to the customer. The lawyers are dedicated and skilled in the bankruptcy cases. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.lawyersindemand.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United States of America provides several specialized and professional <a HREF="http://www.lawyersindemand.com/" REL="nofollow">bankruptcy legal services </a>that are expert in the legal area of bankruptcy. The bankruptcy attorneys provide the best and strong legal suggestion and legal services to the customer. The lawyers are dedicated and skilled in the bankruptcy cases. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawyersindemand.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawyersindemand.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon of 11:06 AM,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please re-read the post. No where did I advocate a bailout. I am describing what I think are likely outcomes, based on news reports and what one can read between the lines in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon of 11:06 AM,</p>
<p>Please re-read the post. No where did I advocate a bailout. I am describing what I think are likely outcomes, based on news reports and what one can read between the lines in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves, I disagree that a bailout of Lehman might be the right thing to do, only it would be politically expedient.  Regardless of how this turns out, bailing out this firm, in whatever form, sends a terrible message to Main Street, Wall Street and to everyone in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves, I disagree that a bailout of Lehman might be the right thing to do, only it would be politically expedient.  Regardless of how this turns out, bailing out this firm, in whatever form, sends a terrible message to Main Street, Wall Street and to everyone in between.</p>
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		<title>By: nvcug</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/lehman-options-limited-firm-hires.html#comment-15073</link>
		<dc:creator>nvcug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The operative metaphor for me here is a nuclear war battle space.  This is no ordinary tsunami.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Greenspan&#039;s idea for a coherent framework to handle investment bank failures requires Congressional approval.  And because of key chairmanships and minority members in the appropriate Congressional committees, nothing gets done until a crisis stifles debate and forces  hasty legislation.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As just one example, I cite the recent GSE legislation that had ENORMOUS implications for our future, but only Jim Bunning objected and the bill was passed in a New York hurry without competent  debate.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would therefore state that Congressional failures and corruption have contributed substantially to the lack of a coherent framework (or game plan as Yves describes it).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As the governmental entity directly responsible for investment bank regulation, the failures of the SEC are also a primary consideration here.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One reason why I describe this catastrophe as a nuclear war battlespace is that we are trying to deal with a rapid succession of massive and spectacular implosions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;An extraordinary amount of time has been spent over the last two months trying to bring a coherent approach to the GSE fiasco.  The thousands of person-hours spent on that enormous task diminished the time available to address looming nuclear implosions at the investment banks.   It&#039;s an opportunity  cost type of thing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would disagree with the statement that Bernanke is fighting deleveraging.  It is clear from his paper in the Vol. 84, No. 4 issue of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Economic Review that he believes that excessive leveraging is a key component in creating asset bubbles.  He agrees with Buiter on this key point.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As such, I would argue he is not FIGHTING deleveraging here.  Rather, he views the correct role of the Federal Reserve as making sure that the Fed fosters stable market conditions for the substantial repricing of risk that must now surely follow.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He (and the Fed) are trying to foster ORDERLY deleveraging.  That&#039;s an extremely difficult task, but it is the goal.  And Geithner&#039;s temperment is probably more suited to the job than Bernanke.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think that is a key reason why Bernanke stayed at home in Washington during this phase of the crisis.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Geithner appears to be doing a plausible job at crisis management.  I tip my hat to him&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Dubuque</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The operative metaphor for me here is a nuclear war battle space.  This is no ordinary tsunami.</p>
<p>Greenspan&#8217;s idea for a coherent framework to handle investment bank failures requires Congressional approval.  And because of key chairmanships and minority members in the appropriate Congressional committees, nothing gets done until a crisis stifles debate and forces  hasty legislation.  </p>
<p>As just one example, I cite the recent GSE legislation that had ENORMOUS implications for our future, but only Jim Bunning objected and the bill was passed in a New York hurry without competent  debate.</p>
<p>I would therefore state that Congressional failures and corruption have contributed substantially to the lack of a coherent framework (or game plan as Yves describes it).  </p>
<p>As the governmental entity directly responsible for investment bank regulation, the failures of the SEC are also a primary consideration here.  </p>
<p>One reason why I describe this catastrophe as a nuclear war battlespace is that we are trying to deal with a rapid succession of massive and spectacular implosions.</p>
<p>An extraordinary amount of time has been spent over the last two months trying to bring a coherent approach to the GSE fiasco.  The thousands of person-hours spent on that enormous task diminished the time available to address looming nuclear implosions at the investment banks.   It&#8217;s an opportunity  cost type of thing.</p>
<p>I would disagree with the statement that Bernanke is fighting deleveraging.  It is clear from his paper in the Vol. 84, No. 4 issue of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Economic Review that he believes that excessive leveraging is a key component in creating asset bubbles.  He agrees with Buiter on this key point.</p>
<p>As such, I would argue he is not FIGHTING deleveraging here.  Rather, he views the correct role of the Federal Reserve as making sure that the Fed fosters stable market conditions for the substantial repricing of risk that must now surely follow.</p>
<p>He (and the Fed) are trying to foster ORDERLY deleveraging.  That&#8217;s an extremely difficult task, but it is the goal.  And Geithner&#8217;s temperment is probably more suited to the job than Bernanke.</p>
<p>I think that is a key reason why Bernanke stayed at home in Washington during this phase of the crisis.</p>
<p>Geithner appears to be doing a plausible job at crisis management.  I tip my hat to him</p>
<p>Matt Dubuque</p>
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		<title>By: Blissex</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/lehman-options-limited-firm-hires.html#comment-15060</link>
		<dc:creator>Blissex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>«The Feds can&#039;t bail everybody, so they have to draw the line somewhere,»&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Fed and Treasury surely can bailout everybody, it is the consequences that they cannot avoid.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow there is a presidential election due November and a handover due January, and the Republican guys at Fed and Treasury would be traitors to their party if they let trivial issues like banks failures reduce their candidate&#039;s chances.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Which way things are going to go will only be known when the new president is known. If it is John, things will go one way, if it is Obama, another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>«The Feds can&#8217;t bail everybody, so they have to draw the line somewhere,»</p>
<p>The Fed and Treasury surely can bailout everybody, it is the consequences that they cannot avoid.</p>
<p>Anyhow there is a presidential election due November and a handover due January, and the Republican guys at Fed and Treasury would be traitors to their party if they let trivial issues like banks failures reduce their candidate&#8217;s chances.</p>
<p>Which way things are going to go will only be known when the new president is known. If it is John, things will go one way, if it is Obama, another way.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash Mundy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cash Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been speculating along the line ericlindros suggested. It seems reasonable that there exists some level of US indebtedness beyond which foreign creditors would prefer to risk a loss in value of present holdings rather than throw good money after bad. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Perhaps a combination of circumstances such as the FRE-FNM debt socialisation, general instability and flight-to-quality pressuring foreign currencies might incline China and others to sell rather than buy dollar debt?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Political considerations seem dwarfed by the threat of financial decompensation. It seems plausible that other factors may be dominant. Possibly there is some evident reason why this could not be the case; it would be instructive to hear it considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been speculating along the line ericlindros suggested. It seems reasonable that there exists some level of US indebtedness beyond which foreign creditors would prefer to risk a loss in value of present holdings rather than throw good money after bad. </p>
<p>  Perhaps a combination of circumstances such as the FRE-FNM debt socialisation, general instability and flight-to-quality pressuring foreign currencies might incline China and others to sell rather than buy dollar debt?</p>
<p>  Political considerations seem dwarfed by the threat of financial decompensation. It seems plausible that other factors may be dominant. Possibly there is some evident reason why this could not be the case; it would be instructive to hear it considered.</p>
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		<title>By: FairEconomist</title>
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		<dc:creator>FairEconomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dave&#039;s approach is the likeliest, if only because I don&#039;t see anything else to be done. Nobody&#039;s going to buy a big firm like Lehman with oodles of tough chewy toxic Level 3 assets on a weekend of due diligence. If ever. The Feds can&#039;t bail everybody, so they have to draw the line somewhere, and it may as well be now. In terms of the junk rating preventing further deals and swaps, further deals should be very restricted anyway, since Lehman will need to be unwound. If they need to set up new swaps the Fed can step in as a conservator, using its credit just as Dave describes using liquidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dave&#8217;s approach is the likeliest, if only because I don&#8217;t see anything else to be done. Nobody&#8217;s going to buy a big firm like Lehman with oodles of tough chewy toxic Level 3 assets on a weekend of due diligence. If ever. The Feds can&#8217;t bail everybody, so they have to draw the line somewhere, and it may as well be now. In terms of the junk rating preventing further deals and swaps, further deals should be very restricted anyway, since Lehman will need to be unwound. If they need to set up new swaps the Fed can step in as a conservator, using its credit just as Dave describes using liquidity.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A small point.  Japan and HK are closed on Monday, although Australia is open.  The deal, I think will probably still be done before Japan would have opened had it been an open day, because people want to get some sleep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small point.  Japan and HK are closed on Monday, although Australia is open.  The deal, I think will probably still be done before Japan would have opened had it been an open day, because people want to get some sleep!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:  &quot;The Fed bet everything on time and secrecy as the remedy for capital erosion, and they are losing their bet.&quot;  In one sentence, that summarizes the &#039;game plan&#039; of the US Fed through 14 months, yes.  A more activist approach would have been desirable, although the outcome might not have been significantly better, only somewhat different.  Now, the Fed and the Treasury are Fortune&#039;s Fools:  they can only re-act as one rotting firm implodes after another, as they lack capital in some cases, authority in another, political maneuvering room in other cases.  They are no longer in a position to &#039;execute a plan;&#039; events execute _them_.  Are we ready for the bailout of the FDIC when it pops?  A rush to spend $giga held overseas when it becomes apparent that into the mid-term they aren&#039;t going to be worth present levels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:  &#8220;The Fed bet everything on time and secrecy as the remedy for capital erosion, and they are losing their bet.&#8221;  In one sentence, that summarizes the &#8216;game plan&#8217; of the US Fed through 14 months, yes.  A more activist approach would have been desirable, although the outcome might not have been significantly better, only somewhat different.  Now, the Fed and the Treasury are Fortune&#8217;s Fools:  they can only re-act as one rotting firm implodes after another, as they lack capital in some cases, authority in another, political maneuvering room in other cases.  They are no longer in a position to &#8216;execute a plan;&#8217; events execute _them_.  Are we ready for the bailout of the FDIC when it pops?  A rush to spend $giga held overseas when it becomes apparent that into the mid-term they aren&#8217;t going to be worth present levels?</p>
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