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	<title>Comments on: Edmund Phelps Advocates Anglicized Swedish Approach for Fixing Financial System</title>
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		<title>By: melpol</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/10/edmund-phelps-advocates-anglicized.html#comment-19059</link>
		<dc:creator>melpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way that we can get our economy quickly moving again is not by bailing out the big bad banks with 750 billion dollars but by giving that money to the homeless.  It is estimated that there are three million homeless people in the United States that are costing the government billions each year to feed and shelter them. A grant of 250 thousand dollars to each person that can prove that they have been homeless for over a year would cost less money that we are ready to waste on bailing out the banks. The results would produce the greatest spending spree in American history and jump start our economy. An added benefit would be that many of the homeless would purchase homes that have been foreclosed and bring added life to the housing market. Some Americans would be envious of the new found wealth of our most unfortunate citizens, but instead they should welcome their large contribution to our economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way that we can get our economy quickly moving again is not by bailing out the big bad banks with 750 billion dollars but by giving that money to the homeless.  It is estimated that there are three million homeless people in the United States that are costing the government billions each year to feed and shelter them. A grant of 250 thousand dollars to each person that can prove that they have been homeless for over a year would cost less money that we are ready to waste on bailing out the banks. The results would produce the greatest spending spree in American history and jump start our economy. An added benefit would be that many of the homeless would purchase homes that have been foreclosed and bring added life to the housing market. Some Americans would be envious of the new found wealth of our most unfortunate citizens, but instead they should welcome their large contribution to our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/10/edmund-phelps-advocates-anglicized.html#comment-19018</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A program of asset purchases, however needed, is limited in scope. It cannot be counted on to increase the equity capital of the banks -- to shore up their solvency....Overpaying the banks for their toxic assets could contribute capital, but that may not be politically feasible or attractive.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Overpaying is exactly what the bailout bill would do.  The banks were assured of this:&lt;br/&gt;www.filesavr.com/sifma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A program of asset purchases, however needed, is limited in scope. It cannot be counted on to increase the equity capital of the banks &#8212; to shore up their solvency&#8230;.Overpaying the banks for their toxic assets could contribute capital, but that may not be politically feasible or attractive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Overpaying is exactly what the bailout bill would do.  The banks were assured of this:<br /><a href="http://www.filesavr.com/sifma" rel="nofollow">http://www.filesavr.com/sifma</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a fund that invests equity in small banks.  I agree that the Treasury should directly recapitalize healthy banks -- rather than buy toxic assets at inflated prices -- altho determining healthy banks is far easier said than done.  When our fund looks to make preferred investments in banks, we review the bulk of the loan book on a loan by loan basis.  This is fairly time consuming.  Value of these assets and the supporting collateral is far from clear.  So in the end, we focus -- and the Treas will need to focus -- on the cash flow of the bank and the bank&#039;s ability to see through holding the underwater loans long enough to replenish capital.  The Treas buying preferred stock in healthier banks essentially buys time for these banks to replenish capital thourgh cash flow.  However, it is unlikely to stop banks from hoarding capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a fund that invests equity in small banks.  I agree that the Treasury should directly recapitalize healthy banks &#8212; rather than buy toxic assets at inflated prices &#8212; altho determining healthy banks is far easier said than done.  When our fund looks to make preferred investments in banks, we review the bulk of the loan book on a loan by loan basis.  This is fairly time consuming.  Value of these assets and the supporting collateral is far from clear.  So in the end, we focus &#8212; and the Treas will need to focus &#8212; on the cash flow of the bank and the bank&#8217;s ability to see through holding the underwater loans long enough to replenish capital.  The Treas buying preferred stock in healthier banks essentially buys time for these banks to replenish capital thourgh cash flow.  However, it is unlikely to stop banks from hoarding capital.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dubuque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dubuque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Dubuque&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The former CEO of Securum (the Swedish entity in charge of their rescue) stated recently it was an INTEGRAL part of the Swedish plan to actively manage and improve the assets they required.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For example, as part of their acquisitions they became owners of the British embassy in Burma and a US ski lodge.  The Swedes actively and affirmatively made improvements to those properties before reselling them.   They were active asset managers.  For some reason current commentary excludes this critical point.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A core group of toxic assets in the current crisis is based on residential real estate.  A growing portion of that residential real estate has been abandoned and falling into disrepair and continuing to decline in value.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My judgment is that it will take thousands of managers and workers if we are to copy this critical aspect of the Swedish plan.  That would require a focused national effort on our part.  Can we do so?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s hope so.  It may be necessary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Additionally, I would point out that &quot;recapitalization&quot; of the banks is a rapidly moving target.  As was pointed out in an Atlanta Federal Reserve article from 1988, there is an enormous quantity of standby letters of credit (SLCs) issued by banks that are off balance sheet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With the crisis and lockups in the commercial paper markets, there is now a decisive trend developing where companies are utilizing their standby letters of credit as a last financing resort in lieu of commercial paper and other vehicles.  Witness the behaviour of GM and Firestone last week in this regard.  That trend is surging.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So it is likely that hundreds of billions (perhaps more) more will move on to bank balance sheets within the next two years for this and other reasons.   That huge additional shortfall will need to be addressed in any recapitalization scenario.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps we should begin to examine  Janet Tavakoli&#039;s plan, the outlines of which she recently presented as an alternative to the Swedish plan.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Janet wrote the most widely used textbooks on structured finance and securitization and has done consulting work for the Federal Reserve on securitization topics including embedded leverage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Dubuque&lt;br/&gt;mdubuque@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Dubuque</p>
<p>The former CEO of Securum (the Swedish entity in charge of their rescue) stated recently it was an INTEGRAL part of the Swedish plan to actively manage and improve the assets they required.  </p>
<p>For example, as part of their acquisitions they became owners of the British embassy in Burma and a US ski lodge.  The Swedes actively and affirmatively made improvements to those properties before reselling them.   They were active asset managers.  For some reason current commentary excludes this critical point.</p>
<p>A core group of toxic assets in the current crisis is based on residential real estate.  A growing portion of that residential real estate has been abandoned and falling into disrepair and continuing to decline in value.</p>
<p>My judgment is that it will take thousands of managers and workers if we are to copy this critical aspect of the Swedish plan.  That would require a focused national effort on our part.  Can we do so?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope so.  It may be necessary.</p>
<p>Additionally, I would point out that &#8220;recapitalization&#8221; of the banks is a rapidly moving target.  As was pointed out in an Atlanta Federal Reserve article from 1988, there is an enormous quantity of standby letters of credit (SLCs) issued by banks that are off balance sheet.</p>
<p>With the crisis and lockups in the commercial paper markets, there is now a decisive trend developing where companies are utilizing their standby letters of credit as a last financing resort in lieu of commercial paper and other vehicles.  Witness the behaviour of GM and Firestone last week in this regard.  That trend is surging.</p>
<p>So it is likely that hundreds of billions (perhaps more) more will move on to bank balance sheets within the next two years for this and other reasons.   That huge additional shortfall will need to be addressed in any recapitalization scenario.   </p>
<p>Perhaps we should begin to examine  Janet Tavakoli&#8217;s plan, the outlines of which she recently presented as an alternative to the Swedish plan.</p>
<p>Janet wrote the most widely used textbooks on structured finance and securitization and has done consulting work for the Federal Reserve on securitization topics including embedded leverage.</p>
<p>Matt Dubuque<br /><a href="mailto:mdubuque@yahoo.com">mdubuque@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m already laying trademark to the Bitter Swedish Solution for when I egurgitate my _own_ financial interventionary proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m already laying trademark to the Bitter Swedish Solution for when I egurgitate my _own_ financial interventionary proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@baychev,&lt;br/&gt;Well why not expedite the FDIC&#039;s insurance premium increase?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The simple answer is they don&#039;t have the money, if you pull back the curtain the wizard loses their power. GS&#039;s 10% deal with Buffet is fine because it constitutes a small portion of liabilities. The US financial system will not be able to generate in excess of 10% returns before the debt strangles them. Allowing payment in kind would discourage new capital and delay recognition of default, the same way SWFs have now avoided new injections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@baychev,<br />Well why not expedite the FDIC&#8217;s insurance premium increase?  </p>
<p>The simple answer is they don&#8217;t have the money, if you pull back the curtain the wizard loses their power. GS&#8217;s 10% deal with Buffet is fine because it constitutes a small portion of liabilities. The US financial system will not be able to generate in excess of 10% returns before the debt strangles them. Allowing payment in kind would discourage new capital and delay recognition of default, the same way SWFs have now avoided new injections.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilHenryPaulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilHenryPaulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off Topic: &lt;br/&gt;Good: Federal Reserve hit its overnight target rate for the first time since Sept 18th, on Sept 30th.&lt;br/&gt;Bad: It ranged from 0 to 10%, that ECB 8% eurodollar sounds OK all of a sudden&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/fedfundsdata.cfm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The last time there were these movements were Dec 31 2007, Early January 2008. Response was emergency 50bp cut, followed by regular meeting 25bp cut within 30 days of the disruption. I see a 1.25% Fed Funds Rate being probable by Oct 31 -- the ISM and auto sales reports only encourage my expectation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off Topic: <br />Good: Federal Reserve hit its overnight target rate for the first time since Sept 18th, on Sept 30th.<br />Bad: It ranged from 0 to 10%, that ECB 8% eurodollar sounds OK all of a sudden<br /><a HREF="http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/fedfundsdata.cfm" REL="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>The last time there were these movements were Dec 31 2007, Early January 2008. Response was emergency 50bp cut, followed by regular meeting 25bp cut within 30 days of the disruption. I see a 1.25% Fed Funds Rate being probable by Oct 31 &#8212; the ISM and auto sales reports only encourage my expectation.</p>
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		<title>By: baychev</title>
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		<dc:creator>baychev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my humble view it makes most sense to recapitalize banks with preferred equity: they will be paying something in the tune of 10% and will be forced to delever down to 12:1 with the time by retiring the preferred equity.&lt;br/&gt;in this case even outside investors will have the opportunity to buy the preferred and convert it or not into common. &lt;br/&gt;this is a levered approach and 700 bn will have the effect of 8.4tn after delevering or approximately cover all liabilities of the top 10 banks.&lt;br/&gt;once they are healed, break them apart to avoid moral hazard and too-big-to-fail risks in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my humble view it makes most sense to recapitalize banks with preferred equity: they will be paying something in the tune of 10% and will be forced to delever down to 12:1 with the time by retiring the preferred equity.<br />in this case even outside investors will have the opportunity to buy the preferred and convert it or not into common. <br />this is a levered approach and 700 bn will have the effect of 8.4tn after delevering or approximately cover all liabilities of the top 10 banks.<br />once they are healed, break them apart to avoid moral hazard and too-big-to-fail risks in the future.</p>
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