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		<title>By: dlr</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/10/euro-area-may-suffer-as-emerging.html#comment-23567</link>
		<dc:creator>dlr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick and easy way to take care of the currency problems is to restrict or freeze cross-border money flows that were used to purchase stocks or bonds.  Watch for it.   Either &#039;indefinitely&#039; (for the &#039;duration of the crisis&#039;), or for a specified time (say a couple of years).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not even sure it wouldn&#039;t be a good idea.  One of the reasons that China has done so well, this time around AND last time around, is because of the limited convertibility of the yuan.  Most of the foreign investment in China has been via &#039;direct investment&#039; -  a company comes in and builds a plant.   Other countries might want to take a long hard look at doing something similar to limit hot money INFLOWS.  Which of course would certainly decrease the destablizing effects of hot money OUTFLOWS next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick and easy way to take care of the currency problems is to restrict or freeze cross-border money flows that were used to purchase stocks or bonds.  Watch for it.   Either &#8216;indefinitely&#8217; (for the &#8216;duration of the crisis&#8217;), or for a specified time (say a couple of years).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even sure it wouldn&#8217;t be a good idea.  One of the reasons that China has done so well, this time around AND last time around, is because of the limited convertibility of the yuan.  Most of the foreign investment in China has been via &#8216;direct investment&#8217; &#8211;  a company comes in and builds a plant.   Other countries might want to take a long hard look at doing something similar to limit hot money INFLOWS.  Which of course would certainly decrease the destablizing effects of hot money OUTFLOWS next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it&#039;s going to hit very hard here in Germany - business leaders are just beginning to realize. Yesterday there was a little note in Handelsblatt (business daily) about Heidelberg Cement (midcap firm) buying up its own debt. Isn&#039;t that what firms do in a depression?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately, your average Joe (or Michel here) doesn&#039;t know what&#039;s coming. The main trade union (IG Metall) is still threatening to strike for a nationwide 8% claim, while the car plants are already shuttering. The trade union leaders seem to imagine the finance crisis is just a trick to fool them. Ach weh!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But there is another thing which makes me sick. Too many British and American commentators are evidently hoping its going to hit everybody else EVEN WORSE! How bloody stupid can you GET!!! We are all in this boat together, and, as Dubbya said, this sucker might go down - with all of us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK what do we need? Two things:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1) A global agreement that NO currency will be allowed to fall victim to a speculative attack, whether it&#039;s the Pakistani Rupee or the Chinese Renminbi. Yes, the Renminbi too - the Chinese know their enormous reserves could be gone in the twinkle of an eye if what we suspect about the Chinese economy is true. And they will only expand domestic demand if they are secure on the currency side.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2) A global investment plan for eliminating poverty (in China too) and conversion to CO2-free energy production. Finance it by issuing bonds that are so AAAA that everyone will buy them. Precondition - stable currency conditions (see (1) above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it&#8217;s going to hit very hard here in Germany &#8211; business leaders are just beginning to realize. Yesterday there was a little note in Handelsblatt (business daily) about Heidelberg Cement (midcap firm) buying up its own debt. Isn&#8217;t that what firms do in a depression?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, your average Joe (or Michel here) doesn&#8217;t know what&#8217;s coming. The main trade union (IG Metall) is still threatening to strike for a nationwide 8% claim, while the car plants are already shuttering. The trade union leaders seem to imagine the finance crisis is just a trick to fool them. Ach weh!</p>
<p>But there is another thing which makes me sick. Too many British and American commentators are evidently hoping its going to hit everybody else EVEN WORSE! How bloody stupid can you GET!!! We are all in this boat together, and, as Dubbya said, this sucker might go down &#8211; with all of us.</p>
<p>OK what do we need? Two things:</p>
<p>1) A global agreement that NO currency will be allowed to fall victim to a speculative attack, whether it&#8217;s the Pakistani Rupee or the Chinese Renminbi. Yes, the Renminbi too &#8211; the Chinese know their enormous reserves could be gone in the twinkle of an eye if what we suspect about the Chinese economy is true. And they will only expand domestic demand if they are secure on the currency side.</p>
<p>2) A global investment plan for eliminating poverty (in China too) and conversion to CO2-free energy production. Finance it by issuing bonds that are so AAAA that everyone will buy them. Precondition &#8211; stable currency conditions (see (1) above).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand the logic with which analists continue to predict that economic downturn will force the ECB to cut rates. When I watch cnbc, I only need to wait for like 10 minutes before someone starts to talk about rate cuts, same with newspapers; journalists seem obsessed with rate cuts. Rate cuts are the modern medicine for the economy, but I never hear these journalists talk about more structural changes to strengthen the economy. The mandate of the ECB is price stability and I am not convinced rate cuts are needed or will lead to economic growth. The US has shown it results in speculation with cheap money, not real economic growth. And it punishes savers while for example the US needs people saving money. I think the real reason all these financial analysts want rate cuts is because they want at all costs stock markets to rise, as this is their daily bread and butter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand the logic with which analists continue to predict that economic downturn will force the ECB to cut rates. When I watch cnbc, I only need to wait for like 10 minutes before someone starts to talk about rate cuts, same with newspapers; journalists seem obsessed with rate cuts. Rate cuts are the modern medicine for the economy, but I never hear these journalists talk about more structural changes to strengthen the economy. The mandate of the ECB is price stability and I am not convinced rate cuts are needed or will lead to economic growth. The US has shown it results in speculation with cheap money, not real economic growth. And it punishes savers while for example the US needs people saving money. I think the real reason all these financial analysts want rate cuts is because they want at all costs stock markets to rise, as this is their daily bread and butter.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Baraza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Baraza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ditto that, @ baychev. This rhetoric of the Euro area will be hit more than North America, emerging markets will suffer more than developed markets, etc, etc completely misses the point. We&#039;re living in a severly interconnected and global world..we have UBS operating in NY, we have Barclays in Kenya, we have Goldman in London, we have Morgan Stanley in Asia...there is way TOO much interconnection today for some delusional person to start making assessments about who gets hit more. Let&#039;s think more objectively, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto that, @ baychev. This rhetoric of the Euro area will be hit more than North America, emerging markets will suffer more than developed markets, etc, etc completely misses the point. We&#8217;re living in a severly interconnected and global world..we have UBS operating in NY, we have Barclays in Kenya, we have Goldman in London, we have Morgan Stanley in Asia&#8230;there is way TOO much interconnection today for some delusional person to start making assessments about who gets hit more. Let&#8217;s think more objectively, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is off topic but it might be of consequence...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&#039;The Treasury TIPS auction today was a disaster.  The market is sending Treasury and Congress a very strong warning that you both better cut this crap out or the Treasury market may dislocate, ending the party for America entirely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you want to know where that nasty selloff came from in the market late this afternoon, you just found the reason.&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://market-ticker.denninger.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is off topic but it might be of consequence&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;The Treasury TIPS auction today was a disaster.  The market is sending Treasury and Congress a very strong warning that you both better cut this crap out or the Treasury market may dislocate, ending the party for America entirely.</p>
<p>If you want to know where that nasty selloff came from in the market late this afternoon, you just found the reason.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/" rel="nofollow">http://market-ticker.denninger.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: baychev</title>
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		<dc:creator>baychev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in a world where some produce to subsidize the consumption of others to suggest that the hit will be unequally distributed is just delusional.&lt;br/&gt;the bigger question is who is going to emerge stronger: the debtor or the creditor? and i am not talking here in banking sense, but who holds the production capacity and resources to turn the wheels first again.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;look at the chart. who is the odd man out?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch5en/conc5en/leadingtraders.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in a world where some produce to subsidize the consumption of others to suggest that the hit will be unequally distributed is just delusional.<br />the bigger question is who is going to emerge stronger: the debtor or the creditor? and i am not talking here in banking sense, but who holds the production capacity and resources to turn the wheels first again.</p>
<p>look at the chart. who is the odd man out?</p>
<p><a href="http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch5en/conc5en/leadingtraders.html" rel="nofollow">http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch5en/conc5en/leadingtraders.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: doc holiday</title>
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		<dc:creator>doc holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is somewhat entertaining:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Goldman, Hungary and Regulators&lt;br/&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2008/10/goldman_hungary_and_regulators.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;... So the US authorities should have known - and presumably did know - that by allowing Morgan Stanley and Goldman to become banks they were in effect forcing a serious contraction in the hedge-fund industry, which in turn would lead to sales of all manner of assets held by hedge funds and precipitate turmoil throughout the financial economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy,</p>
<p>This is somewhat entertaining:</p>
<p>Goldman, Hungary and Regulators<br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2008/10/goldman_hungary_and_regulators.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2008/10/goldman_hungary_and_regulators.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230; So the US authorities should have known &#8211; and presumably did know &#8211; that by allowing Morgan Stanley and Goldman to become banks they were in effect forcing a serious contraction in the hedge-fund industry, which in turn would lead to sales of all manner of assets held by hedge funds and precipitate turmoil throughout the financial economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be very surprised if the Euro markets DO NOT take as the global economy has taken a hit.  If Brazil has gone down, everyone will go down in my opinion&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jesse W.&lt;br/&gt;http://www.subprimeblogger.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be very surprised if the Euro markets DO NOT take as the global economy has taken a hit.  If Brazil has gone down, everyone will go down in my opinion</p>
<p>Jesse W.<br /><a href="http://www.subprimeblogger.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.subprimeblogger.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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