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	<title>Comments on: Stocks Tank Ovenight; US Futures Down Sharply</title>
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		<title>By: macndub</title>
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		<dc:creator>macndub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Canada has yet to produce any bad headlines...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting phrasing.  Should I be putting my loonies in a sock?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Canada has yet to produce any bad headlines&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Interesting phrasing.  Should I be putting my loonies in a sock?</p>
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		<title>By: River</title>
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		<dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Market action today reminds me of an old John Kenneth Galbraith homily...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&#039;The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&#039;There is something wonderful in seeing a wrong-headed majority assailed by truth&#039; JKB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Market action today reminds me of an old John Kenneth Galbraith homily&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable&#8217;</p>
<p>Or&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;There is something wonderful in seeing a wrong-headed majority assailed by truth&#8217; JKB</p>
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		<title>By: James Kwak</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kwak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, the world&#039;s ministers of finance are fighting two battles, which can approximately be represented by the credit and equity markets. The battle that has grabbed the headlines for the last two weeks is to stabilize the financial system and get the credit markets working. The second battle, however, is the old-fashioned one of turning around a recessionary economy. Equity markets for the most part reflect people&#039;s fears about the length and depth of the recession, and ironically the more attention the first battle gets, the worse the second problem becomes (because as people read all these headlines, they start cutting back on spending).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For a set of proposals that governments can take to fight both of these battles, see http://baselinescenario.com/baseline-scenario-10608-proposals/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, the world&#8217;s ministers of finance are fighting two battles, which can approximately be represented by the credit and equity markets. The battle that has grabbed the headlines for the last two weeks is to stabilize the financial system and get the credit markets working. The second battle, however, is the old-fashioned one of turning around a recessionary economy. Equity markets for the most part reflect people&#8217;s fears about the length and depth of the recession, and ironically the more attention the first battle gets, the worse the second problem becomes (because as people read all these headlines, they start cutting back on spending).</p>
<p>For a set of proposals that governments can take to fight both of these battles, see <a href="http://baselinescenario.com/baseline-scenario-10608-proposals/." rel="nofollow">http://baselinescenario.com/baseline-scenario-10608-proposals/.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Who cares for you?&#039; said Alice, &#039;You&#039;re nothing but a pack of cards!&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We&#039;re all in the process of waking up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Who cares for you?&#8217; said Alice, &#8216;You&#8217;re nothing but a pack of cards!&#8217;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all in the process of waking up now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TARP will provide a rally (perhaps not measured by equity indexes) to partners at GS and MS and BlackRock and PIMCO.  Perhaps C and BAC executives might get some of the drippings.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s ironic but Larry Fink was one of the midwives of the tranche securtization. That flaws in that securitization methodology have been apparent for 25 years (witness the fact that the users of that technique no longer exist or no longer independent: First Boston, Salomon Brothers, Kidder Peabody, Donaldson Lufkin Jenrette).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, he will help himself to a portion of $700 billion of taxpayer money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TARP will provide a rally (perhaps not measured by equity indexes) to partners at GS and MS and BlackRock and PIMCO.  Perhaps C and BAC executives might get some of the drippings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic but Larry Fink was one of the midwives of the tranche securtization. That flaws in that securitization methodology have been apparent for 25 years (witness the fact that the users of that technique no longer exist or no longer independent: First Boston, Salomon Brothers, Kidder Peabody, Donaldson Lufkin Jenrette).</p>
<p>Now, he will help himself to a portion of $700 billion of taxpayer money.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So much for the idea that the bailout bill would produce a relief rally.&quot; -- Yves Smith&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mind meld! Exactly what was I gonna type. But it&#039;s already there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After the eye of the financial hurricane passes over, the question for researchers (don&#039;t say &quot;economists;&quot; except for Roubini and a handful of others, they obviously didn&#039;t have a frickin&#039; clue) will be: to what extent did the death throes of Bretton Woods II propagate the &#039;bank-wasting disease&#039; worldwide?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I say, you don&#039;t need no PhD Econ to figure this out. As the &quot;reserve currency country,&quot; the US spewed dollars across the globe for decades ... and spewed them even faster during wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). Foreigners had to recycle them at a massive rate. Many went into Treasurys and agencies, keeping US interest rates artificially lower -- and the dollar&#039;s external purchasing power artificially higher -- than it would otherwise have been. Thus, US trade and current account deficits had a self-reinforcing aspect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But some foreigners, especially the private sector such as European banks which had to meet earnings targets, took the sucker bait of securitized mortgages  with &quot;triple A&quot; ratings from ... well, from a bunch of 20-something MBA trainees -- LOL! In parallel, all the non-sterilized dollar monetization overseas produced local currency real estate Bubbles across Europe and elsewhere.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bottom line: Mad Al bubbled the whole frickin&#039; world; Weimar Ben is pumping furiously to eclipse his record and garner the coveted title, Sir John Law III.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;$700 billion, $700 trillion -- it&#039;s only paper money. I hear Weimar had some sublime parties, svelte flappers and sweet narcotics during its heady final days of hyperinflationary insanity. Rock on, Benny -- party till the purple dawn; till the rosy glow of cities on flame smudges the horizon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-- Juan Falcone (from Bellevue psych ward)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So much for the idea that the bailout bill would produce a relief rally.&#8221; &#8212; Yves Smith</p>
<p>Mind meld! Exactly what was I gonna type. But it&#8217;s already there.</p>
<p>After the eye of the financial hurricane passes over, the question for researchers (don&#8217;t say &#8220;economists;&#8221; except for Roubini and a handful of others, they obviously didn&#8217;t have a frickin&#8217; clue) will be: to what extent did the death throes of Bretton Woods II propagate the &#8216;bank-wasting disease&#8217; worldwide?</p>
<p>I say, you don&#8217;t need no PhD Econ to figure this out. As the &#8220;reserve currency country,&#8221; the US spewed dollars across the globe for decades &#8230; and spewed them even faster during wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). Foreigners had to recycle them at a massive rate. Many went into Treasurys and agencies, keeping US interest rates artificially lower &#8212; and the dollar&#8217;s external purchasing power artificially higher &#8212; than it would otherwise have been. Thus, US trade and current account deficits had a self-reinforcing aspect.</p>
<p>But some foreigners, especially the private sector such as European banks which had to meet earnings targets, took the sucker bait of securitized mortgages  with &#8220;triple A&#8221; ratings from &#8230; well, from a bunch of 20-something MBA trainees &#8212; LOL! In parallel, all the non-sterilized dollar monetization overseas produced local currency real estate Bubbles across Europe and elsewhere.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Mad Al bubbled the whole frickin&#8217; world; Weimar Ben is pumping furiously to eclipse his record and garner the coveted title, Sir John Law III.</p>
<p>$700 billion, $700 trillion &#8212; it&#8217;s only paper money. I hear Weimar had some sublime parties, svelte flappers and sweet narcotics during its heady final days of hyperinflationary insanity. Rock on, Benny &#8212; party till the purple dawn; till the rosy glow of cities on flame smudges the horizon.</p>
<p>&#8211; Juan Falcone (from Bellevue psych ward)</p>
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