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	<title>Comments on: Willem Buiter: &quot;We are laying the foundations of the next systemic crisis&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: DMD</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/10/willem-buiter-we-are-laying-foundations.html#comment-22568</link>
		<dc:creator>DMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It comes down to radical individual action: stop spending.  Don&#039;t borrow any money at all. Don&#039;t put anything on a credit card, not even if you pay it off every month.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s going to be painful.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But it&#039;s going to be painful anyway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is literally the only thing I can think of that will honestly express the will of the general public.  It&#039;s the only weapon in our arsenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes down to radical individual action: stop spending.  Don&#8217;t borrow any money at all. Don&#8217;t put anything on a credit card, not even if you pay it off every month.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be painful.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s going to be painful anyway.</p>
<p>This is literally the only thing I can think of that will honestly express the will of the general public.  It&#8217;s the only weapon in our arsenal.</p>
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		<title>By: dlr</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FIRST step that has to be taken before lending any money to these banks is for ALL of their top level executives to be removed.  Who in their right mind would give these crooks any more money to line their pockets with?  They have already proven themselves to be incompetent or criminal.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Right now approximately 50% of REVENUE at each of these major banks is going to massive bonuses and billion dollar employee payouts.  The executives are looting these institutions, just hollowing them out, stealing from the shareholders with opaque accounting tricks and MASSIVE payouts to themselves in terms of bonuses.  Nine banks are going to hand out 90 BILLION dollars in employee compensation and bonuses THIS YEAR ALONE.  Giving them more money just lets the game continue a little longer.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The fact that the bailout money was given without any meaningful curbs on employee compensation or bonuses PROVES that Paulson is as corrupt as the rest of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FIRST step that has to be taken before lending any money to these banks is for ALL of their top level executives to be removed.  Who in their right mind would give these crooks any more money to line their pockets with?  They have already proven themselves to be incompetent or criminal.  </p>
<p>Right now approximately 50% of REVENUE at each of these major banks is going to massive bonuses and billion dollar employee payouts.  The executives are looting these institutions, just hollowing them out, stealing from the shareholders with opaque accounting tricks and MASSIVE payouts to themselves in terms of bonuses.  Nine banks are going to hand out 90 BILLION dollars in employee compensation and bonuses THIS YEAR ALONE.  Giving them more money just lets the game continue a little longer.  </p>
<p>The fact that the bailout money was given without any meaningful curbs on employee compensation or bonuses PROVES that Paulson is as corrupt as the rest of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dubuque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dubuque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIG was put on a short leash because the Fed was involved.  The Fed is a lot more concerned about the quality of their balance sheet than the clowns at the Treasury.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For those who do not understand that the Fed has been pretty prudent, all things considered, throughout this catastrophe, recall that Fed swap lines are extended on a short term basis to major solvent central banks.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Those lines are being sterilized.  To ask for the Fed to ALSO bring toxic third world central banks on  to their balance sheet is a recipe for catastrophe.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why was Rogoff&#039;s warning about the risk to central bank balance sheets so quickly forgotten?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Paulson is a fool, only interested in making it a better world for Goldman.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Fed is playing its cards, although they are limited, rather well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;AIG is just one small case in point of how the Fed does things far more competently than the clowns at Treasury.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These words will be soon forgotten among the pitchfork crowd of knee jerk Fed bashers and Ron Paul types.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That does not make them false.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Dubuque</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIG was put on a short leash because the Fed was involved.  The Fed is a lot more concerned about the quality of their balance sheet than the clowns at the Treasury.</p>
<p>For those who do not understand that the Fed has been pretty prudent, all things considered, throughout this catastrophe, recall that Fed swap lines are extended on a short term basis to major solvent central banks.  </p>
<p>Those lines are being sterilized.  To ask for the Fed to ALSO bring toxic third world central banks on  to their balance sheet is a recipe for catastrophe.</p>
<p>Why was Rogoff&#8217;s warning about the risk to central bank balance sheets so quickly forgotten?</p>
<p>Paulson is a fool, only interested in making it a better world for Goldman.</p>
<p>The Fed is playing its cards, although they are limited, rather well.</p>
<p>AIG is just one small case in point of how the Fed does things far more competently than the clowns at Treasury.</p>
<p>These words will be soon forgotten among the pitchfork crowd of knee jerk Fed bashers and Ron Paul types.  </p>
<p>That does not make them false.</p>
<p>Matt Dubuque</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BWI made the US$ as good as gold and entrenced the US$ as the worlds reserve currency. ECB council member Ewald Nowotny on sunday 19th talked about a tri-polar global currency system.At the very least it looks like Europe and Asia want to cut themselves free of the drowning US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BWI made the US$ as good as gold and entrenced the US$ as the worlds reserve currency. ECB council member Ewald Nowotny on sunday 19th talked about a tri-polar global currency system.At the very least it looks like Europe and Asia want to cut themselves free of the drowning US.</p>
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		<title>By: Bendal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bendal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me as one of those voters outraged at the ease that Congress rolled over and passed Bush&#039;s Bailout Bill with only a glance at adding more oversight and regulatory authority to it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Courtesy of my state&#039;s early voter program, yesterday I voiced my full displeasure at ALL my Congressional incumbents, and from the numbers of early voters (5% of the state total # of voters so far), there&#039;s a LOT of unhappy voters out there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me as one of those voters outraged at the ease that Congress rolled over and passed Bush&#8217;s Bailout Bill with only a glance at adding more oversight and regulatory authority to it. </p>
<p>Courtesy of my state&#8217;s early voter program, yesterday I voiced my full displeasure at ALL my Congressional incumbents, and from the numbers of early voters (5% of the state total # of voters so far), there&#8217;s a LOT of unhappy voters out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DownSouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>DownSouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Kline,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sad but true.  The kleptocrats will be the last to suffer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the really sad thing is that, if this thing unfolds as it did during the 1930s, that will be the &quot;good&quot; outcome.  Things could turn out much worse than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Kline,</p>
<p>Sad but true.  The kleptocrats will be the last to suffer.</p>
<p>But the really sad thing is that, if this thing unfolds as it did during the 1930s, that will be the &#8220;good&#8221; outcome.  Things could turn out much worse than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In thinking about &#039;a new Bretton Woods&#039;, it makes sense to know a bit more than most of us do about the first one! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You could try Armand van Dormael&#039;s detailed history of it, or look at the coverage in the bios of Keynes (Skidelsky, Moggridge), or Markwell on Keynes and International Relations, or Horsefield, or...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are striking siilarities, as well as obvious differences, with &#039;last time&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In thinking about &#8216;a new Bretton Woods&#8217;, it makes sense to know a bit more than most of us do about the first one! </p>
<p>You could try Armand van Dormael&#8217;s detailed history of it, or look at the coverage in the bios of Keynes (Skidelsky, Moggridge), or Markwell on Keynes and International Relations, or Horsefield, or&#8230;</p>
<p>There are striking siilarities, as well as obvious differences, with &#8216;last time&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve expressed my extreme disgust of Paulson&#039;s Plot before, but it&#039;s good to hear someone of Buiter&#039;s platform put on Jeremiah&#039;s wig and sandals over it.  And no, this is not a &#039;partial nationalization,&#039; it is a partial annexation:  The Nine Wide Boys annexed as much of the Treasury&#039;s credit as they need to make nice visuals for the credit markets and to get a Government Saved (tm) sticker like the European banks got.  Nationalization implies public control, or at least influence; in this scheme, that potential was specifically abdicated by Hank.  And fair:  If you have the best Treasury Secretary that money can buy, &#039;fair&#039; isn&#039;t your problem.  It&#039;s only a problem if you&#039;re a taxpayer.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bear this in mind, though.  We are now entering Year Two of what shapes as a five year financial crisis.  In both the 1929 event and in the 1989 event in Japan, it was only several years in that the lies, evasions, old boy choke chains, and politician son the payroll finally buckled under serial insolvency, to put the public somewhat more in control of the process of resolution.  The US banks were still lying and stealing with their pens in _1934_ before a more activist Congress finally wrote them a different ticket.  We will see something like that now, too, I think.  It will take several seasons of hidings on the hustings for Our Public Servants to get on top of this, and to begin curing the hide of the Nine Wide Boys and their ilk rather then tenderly kissing it nighty-night.  We have LBO ASBs imploding; another bailout.  Commercial Re imploding; another bailout.  When T-bills jack up their rates, as they must under any currency realignment, we&#039;ll have a major bond bust; another bailo---Wait! Stop!  TIME OUT! . . . Of course, by then, most of that first $125B and probably the second $125B  will have been syphoned off in dividends and sweetheart share puts to the Guvmint (wait for it, it&#039;s coming, at least in concept)  by present stakeholders, but this may be the price we have to pay for our venal complacency as a citizenry.  *blecchhhh*  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t bother with pitchforks:  Whenever you see a senior banker or public financial official, throw your shoes at them.  Greed is NOT good for children and other growing things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve expressed my extreme disgust of Paulson&#8217;s Plot before, but it&#8217;s good to hear someone of Buiter&#8217;s platform put on Jeremiah&#8217;s wig and sandals over it.  And no, this is not a &#8216;partial nationalization,&#8217; it is a partial annexation:  The Nine Wide Boys annexed as much of the Treasury&#8217;s credit as they need to make nice visuals for the credit markets and to get a Government Saved &#8482; sticker like the European banks got.  Nationalization implies public control, or at least influence; in this scheme, that potential was specifically abdicated by Hank.  And fair:  If you have the best Treasury Secretary that money can buy, &#8216;fair&#8217; isn&#8217;t your problem.  It&#8217;s only a problem if you&#8217;re a taxpayer.  </p>
<p>Bear this in mind, though.  We are now entering Year Two of what shapes as a five year financial crisis.  In both the 1929 event and in the 1989 event in Japan, it was only several years in that the lies, evasions, old boy choke chains, and politician son the payroll finally buckled under serial insolvency, to put the public somewhat more in control of the process of resolution.  The US banks were still lying and stealing with their pens in _1934_ before a more activist Congress finally wrote them a different ticket.  We will see something like that now, too, I think.  It will take several seasons of hidings on the hustings for Our Public Servants to get on top of this, and to begin curing the hide of the Nine Wide Boys and their ilk rather then tenderly kissing it nighty-night.  We have LBO ASBs imploding; another bailout.  Commercial Re imploding; another bailout.  When T-bills jack up their rates, as they must under any currency realignment, we&#8217;ll have a major bond bust; another bailo&#8212;Wait! Stop!  TIME OUT! . . . Of course, by then, most of that first $125B and probably the second $125B  will have been syphoned off in dividends and sweetheart share puts to the Guvmint (wait for it, it&#8217;s coming, at least in concept)  by present stakeholders, but this may be the price we have to pay for our venal complacency as a citizenry.  *blecchhhh*  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother with pitchforks:  Whenever you see a senior banker or public financial official, throw your shoes at them.  Greed is NOT good for children and other growing things.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m outraged.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Any government bailout should be accompanied by:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1/  Suspension of dividends&lt;br/&gt;2/  Suspension of bonuses&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Everyone notices, of course, that the government&#039;s injection into GS and MS don&#039;t even pay for this year&#039;s bonus pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m outraged.</p>
<p>Any government bailout should be accompanied by:</p>
<p>1/  Suspension of dividends<br />2/  Suspension of bonuses</p>
<p>Everyone notices, of course, that the government&#8217;s injection into GS and MS don&#8217;t even pay for this year&#8217;s bonus pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It helps to examine what&#039;s really happening here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bank hands over piece of paper that says &quot;Preferred Stock&quot; on the top: &quot;X Billion&quot;, &quot;Pays 5%&quot;.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Treasury hands over piece of paper that says &quot;Treasury Bond&quot; on the top: &quot;X Billion&quot;, &quot;Pays 5%&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, what happens down in the Accounting Departments? Treasury books Bond as a liability, Stock as an asset. No net change to the balance sheet or the budget. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bank books Stock as a liability, Bond as an asset that goes 100% to regulatory capital, effectively curing the solvency problem caused by the introduction of FASB Rule 157 (mark-to-market) on Nov. 15 2007. No net change to the balance sheet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This a case of one regulatory agency (Treasury) throwing on a blowout patch to fix a bonehead move by another regulatory agency (FASB). With a little luck, this won&#039;t cost the taxpayer a nickel.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This, by the way, wasn&#039;t a Treasury idea: the Brits came up with it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Far more worrisome is people with no insurable interest collecting on CDS&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It helps to examine what&#8217;s really happening here.</p>
<p>Bank hands over piece of paper that says &#8220;Preferred Stock&#8221; on the top: &#8220;X Billion&#8221;, &#8220;Pays 5%&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Treasury hands over piece of paper that says &#8220;Treasury Bond&#8221; on the top: &#8220;X Billion&#8221;, &#8220;Pays 5%&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, what happens down in the Accounting Departments? Treasury books Bond as a liability, Stock as an asset. No net change to the balance sheet or the budget. </p>
<p>Bank books Stock as a liability, Bond as an asset that goes 100% to regulatory capital, effectively curing the solvency problem caused by the introduction of FASB Rule 157 (mark-to-market) on Nov. 15 2007. No net change to the balance sheet.</p>
<p>This a case of one regulatory agency (Treasury) throwing on a blowout patch to fix a bonehead move by another regulatory agency (FASB). With a little luck, this won&#8217;t cost the taxpayer a nickel.</p>
<p>This, by the way, wasn&#8217;t a Treasury idea: the Brits came up with it.</p>
<p>Far more worrisome is people with no insurable interest collecting on CDS&#8217;s.</p>
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