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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Dubuque = Art Laffer</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sy Krass said...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yves,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With all these problems, why the hell do shipping stocks keep going up?  Are only insane poeple buying them? Or, just a bear market melt up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sy Krass said&#8230;</p>
<p>Yves,</p>
<p>With all these problems, why the hell do shipping stocks keep going up?  Are only insane poeple buying them? Or, just a bear market melt up?</p>
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		<title>By: SlimCarlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>SlimCarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Dubuque,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;&gt;In terms of a nation with a fiat currency only able to have deflation for 3-4 months, that does not square with the objective reality of Japan&#039;s experience for the last 15 years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Show me a case of entrenched deflation in a country under a fiat currency regime running massive external deficits.  Just one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Japan is a red herring.  Household savings were high (and growing) and they ran a huge balance of trade surplus.  In other words, they weren&#039;t a supplicant to the rest of the world for funding.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The US is dramatically different.  Its government is broke.  Households are broke.  And, like some transient on a grate, it requires handouts from the rest of the world to clear each month.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And you recommend buying its debt?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I digress: one other country that suffered deflation under a fiat regime running massive external deficits.  Just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Dubuque,</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;In terms of a nation with a fiat currency only able to have deflation for 3-4 months, that does not square with the objective reality of Japan&#39;s experience for the last 15 years.</p>
<p>Show me a case of entrenched deflation in a country under a fiat currency regime running massive external deficits.  Just one.</p>
<p>Japan is a red herring.  Household savings were high (and growing) and they ran a huge balance of trade surplus.  In other words, they weren&#39;t a supplicant to the rest of the world for funding.</p>
<p>The US is dramatically different.  Its government is broke.  Households are broke.  And, like some transient on a grate, it requires handouts from the rest of the world to clear each month.</p>
<p>And you recommend buying its debt?  </p>
<p>But I digress: one other country that suffered deflation under a fiat regime running massive external deficits.  Just one.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I bothered to watch the first few minutes of your video on YouTube. Your supposedly prescient call was as of March 2008 when Bear was melting down. That wasn&#039;t prescient, it was consensus.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And as for your ranting about gold, I suggest you get acquainted with facts rather than spout uninformed prejudice. Gold does MUCH better in deflation than in inflation. Yves even had some stats in comments earlier in the week.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suggest you not give investment advice when you have so little knowledge of the performance of various asset classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I bothered to watch the first few minutes of your video on YouTube. Your supposedly prescient call was as of March 2008 when Bear was melting down. That wasn&#8217;t prescient, it was consensus.</p>
<p>And as for your ranting about gold, I suggest you get acquainted with facts rather than spout uninformed prejudice. Gold does MUCH better in deflation than in inflation. Yves even had some stats in comments earlier in the week.</p>
<p>I suggest you not give investment advice when you have so little knowledge of the performance of various asset classes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dubuque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dubuque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of a nation with a fiat currency only able to have deflation for 3-4 months, that does not square with the objective reality of Japan&#039;s experience for the last 15 years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And with the soaring yen, they are faced with further (and much deeper) deflation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The claim that I have &quot;offered no alternative&quot; is simply false.  I&#039;ve stated for months in this forum that Treasuries were a screaming buy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was right on the money.  In DEFLATIONARY times, capital seeks the finest bonds, the most secure bonds you can find.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s exactly what happened.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I predicted this Crash in March of this year in excruciating detail in 13 videos for a film to be released in Sundance in late 2009.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In all candor, I&#039;m unaware of a single mistake in those 13 videos.  I&#039;m not tooting my horn, it&#039;s just that some person made a personal attack (calling me a moron) and another mentioned my videos.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A youtube search under &quot;Crash of 2008&quot; will bring them to your view.  The video quality is INTENTIONALLY poor so that I can include no more than 6 minutes of them as archival &quot;Forrest Gump&quot; ancient footage in the film.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Dubuque</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of a nation with a fiat currency only able to have deflation for 3-4 months, that does not square with the objective reality of Japan&#8217;s experience for the last 15 years.</p>
<p>And with the soaring yen, they are faced with further (and much deeper) deflation.</p>
<p>The claim that I have &#8220;offered no alternative&#8221; is simply false.  I&#8217;ve stated for months in this forum that Treasuries were a screaming buy.</p>
<p>I was right on the money.  In DEFLATIONARY times, capital seeks the finest bonds, the most secure bonds you can find.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what happened.</p>
<p>I predicted this Crash in March of this year in excruciating detail in 13 videos for a film to be released in Sundance in late 2009.</p>
<p>In all candor, I&#8217;m unaware of a single mistake in those 13 videos.  I&#8217;m not tooting my horn, it&#8217;s just that some person made a personal attack (calling me a moron) and another mentioned my videos.</p>
<p>A youtube search under &#8220;Crash of 2008&#8243; will bring them to your view.  The video quality is INTENTIONALLY poor so that I can include no more than 6 minutes of them as archival &#8220;Forrest Gump&#8221; ancient footage in the film.</p>
<p>Matt Dubuque</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Have enjoyed this site now for two months now, the only other daily must read besides the FT.  Why anon Nov 4th, 4:38 was included in your Recent Posts section is a mystery though. Matt Dubuque&#039;s Youtube videos, though not widely viewed were made last spring and were prescient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves, </p>
<p>Have enjoyed this site now for two months now, the only other daily must read besides the FT.  Why anon Nov 4th, 4:38 was included in your Recent Posts section is a mystery though. Matt Dubuque&#8217;s Youtube videos, though not widely viewed were made last spring and were prescient.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some popcorn so you can watch Dubuque&#039;s scary good movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some popcorn so you can watch Dubuque&#8217;s scary good movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dubuque is a moron.  He talks about how he&#039;s working on some dumb movie, but has yet to have anything to show.  He constantly talks about how people should not buy gold, but in a situation where being cash heavy would be horrible against inflation, he provides no alternatives.  I wouldn&#039;t stay in cash for the very reason that the country is 10.5 Trillion in debt, that over 2 Trillion more will be added in 2009, that this country has a massive trade deficit(that is, we don&#039;t produce anything that other countries buy), and the FED is printing out money like there&#039;s no tomorrow to bailout banks so that they can lend us money today at interest.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Food, guns, gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dubuque is a moron.  He talks about how he&#8217;s working on some dumb movie, but has yet to have anything to show.  He constantly talks about how people should not buy gold, but in a situation where being cash heavy would be horrible against inflation, he provides no alternatives.  I wouldn&#8217;t stay in cash for the very reason that the country is 10.5 Trillion in debt, that over 2 Trillion more will be added in 2009, that this country has a massive trade deficit(that is, we don&#8217;t produce anything that other countries buy), and the FED is printing out money like there&#8217;s no tomorrow to bailout banks so that they can lend us money today at interest.</p>
<p>Food, guns, gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the japanese have always had the highest savings rate in the world..their people dont consume anything but food..they still save money with 0.5% sovereign interest rates. deflation is &quot;doable&quot; provided there is savings in place. the japanese also suffered their bust in the midst of the greatest increase in productivity the world has ever seen (internet, cell phones, slave labor globalized)..this is why they avoided inflation as did the rest of the world from 1988-2008...lastly, i would say that deflation is impossible with a fiat currency, long term...for 3-4 months, sure deflation can overwhelm the fiat world..but not for much longer...just look at how quickly and urgently the fed, ecb, other central banks have responded to deflation..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the japanese have always had the highest savings rate in the world..their people dont consume anything but food..they still save money with 0.5% sovereign interest rates. deflation is &#8220;doable&#8221; provided there is savings in place. the japanese also suffered their bust in the midst of the greatest increase in productivity the world has ever seen (internet, cell phones, slave labor globalized)..this is why they avoided inflation as did the rest of the world from 1988-2008&#8230;lastly, i would say that deflation is impossible with a fiat currency, long term&#8230;for 3-4 months, sure deflation can overwhelm the fiat world..but not for much longer&#8230;just look at how quickly and urgently the fed, ecb, other central banks have responded to deflation..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey folks, the blog that nailed the bottoms of October 10, 16, and 24, has just issued a short call this afternoon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I went short nasdaq 100 after receiving his call. It feels good. The market indeed has moved down. I entered at 1374, and NDX is now at 1360.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For your wealth folks, check the blogger below.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://financialtraders.blogspot.com/2008/11/stock-price-prediction-tomorrows-stock.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey folks, the blog that nailed the bottoms of October 10, 16, and 24, has just issued a short call this afternoon.</p>
<p>I went short nasdaq 100 after receiving his call. It feels good. The market indeed has moved down. I entered at 1374, and NDX is now at 1360.</p>
<p>For your wealth folks, check the blogger below.</p>
<p><a href="http://financialtraders.blogspot.com/2008/11/stock-price-prediction-tomorrows-stock.html" rel="nofollow">http://financialtraders.blogspot.com/2008/11/stock-price-prediction-tomorrows-stock.html</a></p>
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