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	<title>Comments on: Goldman Recants Its $200 a Barrel, &quot;Super Spike&quot; Call for Oil</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening in the market right now is simple supply and demand.  It is not the dollar, not the economy and not the fundamentals.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A lot of money is leaving the market.  That includes the stock market, commodity market and any other market.  Amount of money goes down, prices fall.  Amount of money goes up, prices rise.  Oil, together with gold and other commodities, became a financial instrument.  People that had no business buying oil, put billions into it.  Finally, everyone got scared and they have been selling ever since.&lt;br/&gt;I think Goldman should be ashamed and it is one of the firms that needs to be prosecuted for repeatedly messing with the market.  They are always (the analysts) at the forefront of irrational exuberance and depression.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the other hand, I have learned in life that people are a lot more stupid than they seem and maybe Goldman analysts are just as big idiots as the rest of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening in the market right now is simple supply and demand.  It is not the dollar, not the economy and not the fundamentals.</p>
<p>A lot of money is leaving the market.  That includes the stock market, commodity market and any other market.  Amount of money goes down, prices fall.  Amount of money goes up, prices rise.  Oil, together with gold and other commodities, became a financial instrument.  People that had no business buying oil, put billions into it.  Finally, everyone got scared and they have been selling ever since.<br />I think Goldman should be ashamed and it is one of the firms that needs to be prosecuted for repeatedly messing with the market.  They are always (the analysts) at the forefront of irrational exuberance and depression.   </p>
<p>On the other hand, I have learned in life that people are a lot more stupid than they seem and maybe Goldman analysts are just as big idiots as the rest of them.</p>
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		<title>By: mdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da Russophile: &lt;i&gt;[...] and sending the world economy into a dovetail again.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Alternatively, peak demand has occurred, and the certain future of super-efficient vehicles -- which currently amounts to 1/2 of all oil consumption -- will ensure a veritable flood of oil for quite some time to come.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;About the only way I can see a &quot;super spike&quot; in the near future (~5 to 10 years) is if Saudi Arabia starts scrapping the pumps for their metal value, ripping the pipes from the ground, and using their refineries and tanker loading facilities for target practice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let me laugh:  HA HA HA!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gasoline today is at 76 cents per litre, and plummeting.  A test of faith for the peak-oil nutcase Soothsayers of Inevtiable DOOOOOOMMMM, eh?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just ordered:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Oil-Crisis-Overcoming-Geopolitics/dp/0313354790/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1227151856&amp;sr=8-1&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Burn the heretic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da Russophile: <i>[...] and sending the world economy into a dovetail again.</i></p>
<p>Alternatively, peak demand has occurred, and the certain future of super-efficient vehicles &#8212; which currently amounts to 1/2 of all oil consumption &#8212; will ensure a veritable flood of oil for quite some time to come.</p>
<p>About the only way I can see a &quot;super spike&quot; in the near future (~5 to 10 years) is if Saudi Arabia starts scrapping the pumps for their metal value, ripping the pipes from the ground, and using their refineries and tanker loading facilities for target practice.</p>
<p>Let me laugh:  HA HA HA!</p>
<p>Gasoline today is at 76 cents per litre, and plummeting.  A test of faith for the peak-oil nutcase Soothsayers of Inevtiable DOOOOOOMMMM, eh?</p>
<p>Just ordered:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Oil-Crisis-Overcoming-Geopolitics/dp/0313354790/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1227151856&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Oil-Crisis-Overcoming-Geopolitics/dp/0313354790/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1227151856&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p>Burn the heretic!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a no nothing but I sensed that oil at $146 was being caused by spec money rushing into all commodities and forming yet another bubble. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I watch commodities closely and when oil was nearing it&#039;s peak there was extreme tension that could be felt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will I do it again? Damn right, but only when I feel the time has arrived. Read a lot, listen a lot, do nothing a lot, and especially listen to what your own senses are telling you. Don&#039;t be afraid to be a contrarian. Don&#039;t trade a lot, don&#039;t regret missing a move, don&#039;t be afraid to sit in cash or treasuries for months or years, but when you trade be certain your senses are sending you a strong message. Trading desks will tell you that what I recommend cannot be done...I call bs on that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps I have simply been lucky? If so, I would rather be lucky than good, like Goldman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a no nothing but I sensed that oil at $146 was being caused by spec money rushing into all commodities and forming yet another bubble. </p>
<p>I watch commodities closely and when oil was nearing it&#8217;s peak there was extreme tension that could be felt.</p>
<p>Will I do it again? Damn right, but only when I feel the time has arrived. Read a lot, listen a lot, do nothing a lot, and especially listen to what your own senses are telling you. Don&#8217;t be afraid to be a contrarian. Don&#8217;t trade a lot, don&#8217;t regret missing a move, don&#8217;t be afraid to sit in cash or treasuries for months or years, but when you trade be certain your senses are sending you a strong message. Trading desks will tell you that what I recommend cannot be done&#8230;I call bs on that.</p>
<p>Perhaps I have simply been lucky? If so, I would rather be lucky than good, like Goldman.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Stuff:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I made a presentation a couple of years ago in Lausanne to an audience of high-level security experts at a seminar covering the subject of economic terrorism. This fascinating seminar covered the subject of the susceptibility of global markets and commerce to acts aimed at causing economic destruction, rather than physical destruction and death. &lt;br/&gt;I pointed out that current levels of gearing and risk, and the concentration of risk in single points of failure, together mean that the only difference between “economic terrorists” and proprietary traders such as hedge funds is motive. The former would destroy a market deliberately: the latter by accident. &lt;br/&gt;While the oil market survived the recent storm surge of money, the inevitability of future waves of speculative money sweeping into the market, mean that an oil market meltdown is an accident waiting to happen. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chris Cook is a former director of the International Petroleum Exchange.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Are the Jim Hamilton&#039;s of the world still promoting the &quot;free market&quot; theory of commodity price setting ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Stuff:</p>
<p>&#8220;I made a presentation a couple of years ago in Lausanne to an audience of high-level security experts at a seminar covering the subject of economic terrorism. This fascinating seminar covered the subject of the susceptibility of global markets and commerce to acts aimed at causing economic destruction, rather than physical destruction and death. <br />I pointed out that current levels of gearing and risk, and the concentration of risk in single points of failure, together mean that the only difference between “economic terrorists” and proprietary traders such as hedge funds is motive. The former would destroy a market deliberately: the latter by accident. <br />While the oil market survived the recent storm surge of money, the inevitability of future waves of speculative money sweeping into the market, mean that an oil market meltdown is an accident waiting to happen. </p>
<p>Chris Cook is a former director of the International Petroleum Exchange.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are the Jim Hamilton&#8217;s of the world still promoting the &#8220;free market&#8221; theory of commodity price setting ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Goldman wasn&#039;t alone in putting out bullish calls on oil. Six months back Nobel winner Dr. Paul Krugman told us inn his Times column that what we were seeing was &quot;The Oil Nonbubble.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This column was not just dedicated to the seriousness of Goldman&#039;s $200 oil prediction, but to criticizing anybody who would dare differ with that opinion. The hasn&#039;t been any follow-up on the topic from Dr Krugman on the topic. (He&#039;s been busy telling us why we have to pass that nasty Mr Paulson&#039;s TARP bill.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Goldman wasn&#8217;t alone in putting out bullish calls on oil. Six months back Nobel winner Dr. Paul Krugman told us inn his Times column that what we were seeing was &#8220;The Oil Nonbubble.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1</a></p>
<p>This column was not just dedicated to the seriousness of Goldman&#8217;s $200 oil prediction, but to criticizing anybody who would dare differ with that opinion. The hasn&#8217;t been any follow-up on the topic from Dr Krugman on the topic. (He&#8217;s been busy telling us why we have to pass that nasty Mr Paulson&#8217;s TARP bill.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know a lot about trading futures markets but I wonder how many companies tried to hedge on Goldmans call and the frothy oil market by locking into futures at high prices?  Seems they might have been stuck with very large losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know a lot about trading futures markets but I wonder how many companies tried to hedge on Goldmans call and the frothy oil market by locking into futures at high prices?  Seems they might have been stuck with very large losses.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and speculated oil at 60$ bbl led directly to the economic slowdown and crash. &quot;Peak oil&quot;? Is that like the &quot;peak coal&quot; theories used to justify the high price of coal when it was the primary fuel for warmth for the masses?&lt;br/&gt;Where&#039;s CFTC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and speculated oil at 60$ bbl led directly to the economic slowdown and crash. &#8220;Peak oil&#8221;? Is that like the &#8220;peak coal&#8221; theories used to justify the high price of coal when it was the primary fuel for warmth for the masses?<br />Where&#8217;s CFTC?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recall the heated discussions, even gov&#039;t hearings a few short months ago whether or not the oil price was a function of speculation? So, was it??&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sure looks like it to me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My five cents worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recall the heated discussions, even gov&#8217;t hearings a few short months ago whether or not the oil price was a function of speculation? So, was it??</p>
<p>Sure looks like it to me.</p>
<p>My five cents worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Accountant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent Accountant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YS:&lt;br/&gt;I am uncomfortable whenever I am on the same side as Goldman with respect to anything.  Oil likely just bottomed at $48 a barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YS:<br />I am uncomfortable whenever I am on the same side as Goldman with respect to anything.  Oil likely just bottomed at $48 a barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: fav.or.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>fav.or.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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