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		<title>By: doc holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26725</link>
		<dc:creator>doc holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  &quot;something comes to mind. Do you ever sleep&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;  There is reason to believe that Yves is not a real person, but the only problem with that theory, is related to a few of those computer animated video cam things she apparently posted a few months ago, with some other ghost-like entity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Proof&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlXU-3ayq2w&amp;feature=related&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Proof&lt;br/&gt;Some people gonna call you up&lt;br/&gt;Tell you something that you already know&lt;br/&gt;Sane people go crazy on you&lt;br/&gt;Say no man, that was not&lt;br/&gt;The deal we made&lt;br/&gt;I got to, I got to, I got to&lt;br/&gt;Faith&lt;br/&gt;Faith is an island in the setting sun&lt;br/&gt;But proof, yes&lt;br/&gt;Proof is the bottom line for everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  &quot;something comes to mind. Do you ever sleep&quot;</p>
<p>&gt;  There is reason to believe that Yves is not a real person, but the only problem with that theory, is related to a few of those computer animated video cam things she apparently posted a few months ago, with some other ghost-like entity.</p>
<p>Proof</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlXU-3ayq2w&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlXU-3ayq2w&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Proof<br />Some people gonna call you up<br />Tell you something that you already know<br />Sane people go crazy on you<br />Say no man, that was not<br />The deal we made<br />I got to, I got to, I got to<br />Faith<br />Faith is an island in the setting sun<br />But proof, yes<br />Proof is the bottom line for everyone</p>
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		<title>By: doc holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26718</link>
		<dc:creator>doc holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  &quot;When will it be time to grab the King and his friends&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;  That will be up to Hillary now that she has bailed on The Senate, and thus, now she can live out her fantasy to be The Mouthpiece to play The Piper Song:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;See and hear:  And it&#039;s whispered that soon &lt;br/&gt;If we all call the tune &lt;br/&gt;Then the piper will lead us to reason &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your head is humming and it won&#039;t go &lt;br/&gt;In case you don&#039;t know &lt;br/&gt;The piper&#039;s calling you to join him &lt;br/&gt;Dear lady can you hear the wind blow &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;&gt;  That last line is a reference for Bill, but I may be wrong, but that&#039;s over my head and I&#039;m just having a glass of ale...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  &quot;When will it be time to grab the King and his friends&quot;</p>
<p>&gt;  That will be up to Hillary now that she has bailed on The Senate, and thus, now she can live out her fantasy to be The Mouthpiece to play The Piper Song:</p>
<p>See and hear:  And it&#39;s whispered that soon <br />If we all call the tune <br />Then the piper will lead us to reason </p>
<p>Your head is humming and it won&#39;t go <br />In case you don&#39;t know <br />The piper&#39;s calling you to join him <br />Dear lady can you hear the wind blow </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  That last line is a reference for Bill, but I may be wrong, but that&#39;s over my head and I&#39;m just having a glass of ale&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john bougearel</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26714</link>
		<dc:creator>john bougearel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves and Co, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This week, I have been stupefied by the news of Citi and the automakers this week. You know how we have all anticipated this crisis to be far worse than imaginable...Well this week&#039;s revelations signals to me  that the actualization that things are actually going to be far worse than we all expect is really now just settling in. Soon, far worse than expected will be as familiar to me as my next door neighbor.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the stupefication is a numbing experience to me. I still do what I always do everyday, but the depth of apprehension has intensified. I am surprised, the apprehension seems as if it should paralyze me into inaction, but I can still wiggle my toes, walk and talk, and so I go on knowing so many are going to have to persevere through unimaginable difficulties. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We have just descended to the next rung down in Dante&#039;s Inferno.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The time of railing on the missteps  that led up to and compounded this crisis may be superseded by a more pressing concern. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The time is drawing near which will soon be time to be reaching out to those in our communities persevering, just trying to hang on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves and Co, </p>
<p>This week, I have been stupefied by the news of Citi and the automakers this week. You know how we have all anticipated this crisis to be far worse than imaginable&#8230;Well this week&#8217;s revelations signals to me  that the actualization that things are actually going to be far worse than we all expect is really now just settling in. Soon, far worse than expected will be as familiar to me as my next door neighbor.  </p>
<p>But the stupefication is a numbing experience to me. I still do what I always do everyday, but the depth of apprehension has intensified. I am surprised, the apprehension seems as if it should paralyze me into inaction, but I can still wiggle my toes, walk and talk, and so I go on knowing so many are going to have to persevere through unimaginable difficulties. </p>
<p>We have just descended to the next rung down in Dante&#8217;s Inferno.  </p>
<p>The time of railing on the missteps  that led up to and compounded this crisis may be superseded by a more pressing concern. </p>
<p>The time is drawing near which will soon be time to be reaching out to those in our communities persevering, just trying to hang on.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, only place to put this. Its from a friend in San Fran, who is a tax consultant and works for his fathers firm. It just leaves you breathless. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Citibank goes under, I will laugh my ass off forever. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We just bought our house in September. The previous owner had two loans on the house and by the time we finished agreeing on the price, they were like 200K in the negative, so both of the note holders had to approve of the sale, because they were getting shorted. Their first loan was held by Citifinancial bank and the second loan was held by Citiresidential bank. The day AFTER we signed our FINAL documents, Citibank came up with a bogus charge of $6000 that they said was billed to them by an insurance company for the liability insurance during a time that the house was vacant for 9 months. They said they would void the entire contract and foreclose the house if we didn&#039;t pay for this. The insurance company that the bill came from was of course Citibank Insurance. My Realtor ended up eating this and is trying to sue them right now to get it back. The lamest part of the entire fuckover was after they dropped this on us, they stopped answering the phone and faxes, or like 200 e-mails that they all sent them and went and hid under a rock. Citibank and all their companies are a complete bunch of douche bags. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll bet you anything that if they do go under, soon afterwords, we&#039;ll hear a story about how their top execs earned 20 million apiece for their wonderful work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Skippy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, only place to put this. Its from a friend in San Fran, who is a tax consultant and works for his fathers firm. It just leaves you breathless. </p>
<p>If Citibank goes under, I will laugh my ass off forever. </p>
<p>We just bought our house in September. The previous owner had two loans on the house and by the time we finished agreeing on the price, they were like 200K in the negative, so both of the note holders had to approve of the sale, because they were getting shorted. Their first loan was held by Citifinancial bank and the second loan was held by Citiresidential bank. The day AFTER we signed our FINAL documents, Citibank came up with a bogus charge of $6000 that they said was billed to them by an insurance company for the liability insurance during a time that the house was vacant for 9 months. They said they would void the entire contract and foreclose the house if we didn&#8217;t pay for this. The insurance company that the bill came from was of course Citibank Insurance. My Realtor ended up eating this and is trying to sue them right now to get it back. The lamest part of the entire fuckover was after they dropped this on us, they stopped answering the phone and faxes, or like 200 e-mails that they all sent them and went and hid under a rock. Citibank and all their companies are a complete bunch of douche bags. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you anything that if they do go under, soon afterwords, we&#8217;ll hear a story about how their top execs earned 20 million apiece for their wonderful work.</p>
<p>Skippy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26710</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doc holiday, very nice on the last one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When will it be time to grab the King and his friends, send them to Gitmo (Irony/they built it), use their information retrieval techniques, till one squeals and then grab the Wall St Priests that were complicit in the sham.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Still find it hilarious that Channey/Bush used the same play book that the Church and Kings of old used to invade the middle east. Just to funny!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Skippy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doc holiday, very nice on the last one.</p>
<p>When will it be time to grab the King and his friends, send them to Gitmo (Irony/they built it), use their information retrieval techniques, till one squeals and then grab the Wall St Priests that were complicit in the sham.</p>
<p>Still find it hilarious that Channey/Bush used the same play book that the Church and Kings of old used to invade the middle east. Just to funny!</p>
<p>Skippy</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy, StuporSleuth</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26709</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Billy, StuporSleuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doc: I love your tough guy posts!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And think you have a chokehold on the fragility of our little lovely triangle.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope you&#039;re still tracking the covered bond world developments.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gotta go... just ate some korean sushi and got a bad headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doc: I love your tough guy posts!</p>
<p>And think you have a chokehold on the fragility of our little lovely triangle.  </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re still tracking the covered bond world developments.  </p>
<p>Gotta go&#8230; just ate some korean sushi and got a bad headache.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26706</link>
		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While otters in Scotland do live in coastal areas, Mr Steel said it was &quot;a rare event&quot; to see them by the sea in England.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank God otters believe in the United Kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While otters in Scotland do live in coastal areas, Mr Steel said it was &#8220;a rare event&#8221; to see them by the sea in England.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank God otters believe in the United Kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: doc holiday</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26705</link>
		<dc:creator>doc holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UB,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Perhaps if we triangulate here we can also see that the tax payer frog is the support base which is connected to liquidity, thus the banker rat is trapped on the back of the frog because it needs support, or otherwise will die in a sea of debt.  This journey can only go so far, because the water is evaporating and one way or another thy both die .... moohhahahahahaha&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, what happens if the fly to stage left flies by the frog and that in-stability lapse, knocks the rat off and the little fella has no way back to shore, or any way to re-mount the asset-backed vehicle/entity/structure/TARP???&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whaddyah think of that, huh, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UB,</p>
<p> Perhaps if we triangulate here we can also see that the tax payer frog is the support base which is connected to liquidity, thus the banker rat is trapped on the back of the frog because it needs support, or otherwise will die in a sea of debt.  This journey can only go so far, because the water is evaporating and one way or another thy both die &#8230;. moohhahahahahaha</p>
<p>However, what happens if the fly to stage left flies by the frog and that in-stability lapse, knocks the rat off and the little fella has no way back to shore, or any way to re-mount the asset-backed vehicle/entity/structure/TARP???</p>
<p>Whaddyah think of that, huh, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: john bougearel</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/links-112208.html#comment-26701</link>
		<dc:creator>john bougearel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you once again for some great weekend reading. ~ John</description>
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<p>Thank you once again for some great weekend reading. ~ John</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Billy StuporSleuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Billy StuporSleuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The rat is a banker, the amphibian the American taxpayer&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;{Evylle snicker}&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Frog eats rat after giving him the free ride.  Always does; it&#039;s his nature.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Didn&#039;t I post a nice link to a paper last week that went into gory detail about bk for fun and profit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The rat is a banker, the amphibian the American taxpayer&#8221;</p>
<p>{Evylle snicker}</p>
<p>Frog eats rat after giving him the free ride.  Always does; it&#8217;s his nature.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t I post a nice link to a paper last week that went into gory detail about bk for fun and profit?</p>
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