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	<title>Comments on: Oil Companies Storing Oil on Tankers, Waiting for Higher Prices</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/oil-companies-storing-oil-on-tankers.html#comment-26694</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So will this put a floor on Baltic dry?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Isn&#039;t there already a coal liquefaction technology to turn coal into oil?  Just run the process in reverse and voilà: ACME brand dehydrated oil powder, just add water.  Dig out the loose change in your pocket to rent a dry bulk ship for a day on the spot market, and Bob&#039;s your uncle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So will this put a floor on Baltic dry?</i></p>
<p>Isn&#39;t there already a coal liquefaction technology to turn coal into oil?  Just run the process in reverse and voilà: ACME brand dehydrated oil powder, just add water.  Dig out the loose change in your pocket to rent a dry bulk ship for a day on the spot market, and Bob&#39;s your uncle.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT Alphaville recently noted that &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/11/11/18074/is-it-a-bird-no-its-a-super-contango/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;oil is in super-contango&lt;/a&gt;: prices of oil in the future exceed current spot prices plus cost-of-carry and storage.  This is a pretty rare occurrence.  So perhaps this move makes perfect sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT Alphaville recently noted that <a HREF="http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/11/11/18074/is-it-a-bird-no-its-a-super-contango/" REL="nofollow">oil is in super-contango</a>: prices of oil in the future exceed current spot prices plus cost-of-carry and storage.  This is a pretty rare occurrence.  So perhaps this move makes perfect sense.</p>
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		<title>By: matt h2o</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt h2o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about other areas, but in the North Sea you have to recall that a lot of the oilfields also produce gas. Being the winter, nobody&#039;s keen to cut gas production - so if the gas is associated, you have to produce the oil as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s also worth remembering that this time of year is usually a bit of a lowpoint for the oil and products mkts. Demand may pick up a bit around the holiday season, and considerably more come the spring.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s been some floating storage used for LNG recently too, as it happens, though only for a matter of weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about other areas, but in the North Sea you have to recall that a lot of the oilfields also produce gas. Being the winter, nobody&#8217;s keen to cut gas production &#8211; so if the gas is associated, you have to produce the oil as well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth remembering that this time of year is usually a bit of a lowpoint for the oil and products mkts. Demand may pick up a bit around the holiday season, and considerably more come the spring.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been some floating storage used for LNG recently too, as it happens, though only for a matter of weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: CKMichaelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>CKMichaelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ten million barrels !   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But wait, that&#039;s abut 11% of one day&#039;s output....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s not get too carried away.&lt;br/&gt;- ckm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ten million barrels !   </p>
<p>But wait, that&#8217;s abut 11% of one day&#8217;s output&#8230;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not get too carried away.<br />- ckm</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So will this put a floor on Baltic dry?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No, unrelated.  Oil is not dry.  Coal, grains, iron ore.... stuff like that is dry bulk shipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So will this put a floor on Baltic dry?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, unrelated.  Oil is not dry.  Coal, grains, iron ore&#8230;. stuff like that is dry bulk shipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Warm,  Dry and Well Fed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warm,  Dry and Well Fed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not read too much into this.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If the report is correct then it suggests Asian demand is down, because that&#039;s where most of the VLCC (huge 300,000+ ton) tankers go.  Part of the problem is that it takes a while to slow down production in an oil field, so that oil has to be put someplace.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tanker rates for Suez Max (175,000 ton barely fit through Suez ships) have also cratered, especially west Africa-to-US and Europe rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not read too much into this.</p>
<p>If the report is correct then it suggests Asian demand is down, because that&#8217;s where most of the VLCC (huge 300,000+ ton) tankers go.  Part of the problem is that it takes a while to slow down production in an oil field, so that oil has to be put someplace.  </p>
<p>Tanker rates for Suez Max (175,000 ton barely fit through Suez ships) have also cratered, especially west Africa-to-US and Europe rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So will this put a floor on Baltic dry?</description>
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		<title>By: mdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ruetheday: &lt;i&gt;Sounds like an environmental disaster waiting to happen, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The risk is probably unchanged, and may even be reduced, since instead of normally being full of oil and moving it from A to B, they are full of oil and not moving at all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;parking them in the Gulf of Mexico at $100,000 a day.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Given a 2 million barrel tanker, if the price of oil isn&#039;t increasing at least 5 cents a day, this will be a losing proposition.  But today, aren&#039;t the rental rates $10k (or less)?  (cf. BDI articles mentioned here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ruetheday: <i>Sounds like an environmental disaster waiting to happen, </i></p>
<p>The risk is probably unchanged, and may even be reduced, since instead of normally being full of oil and moving it from A to B, they are full of oil and not moving at all.</p>
<p><i>parking them in the Gulf of Mexico at $100,000 a day.</i></p>
<p>Given a 2 million barrel tanker, if the price of oil isn&#8217;t increasing at least 5 cents a day, this will be a losing proposition.  But today, aren&#8217;t the rental rates $10k (or less)?  (cf. BDI articles mentioned here).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least its real oil and not floated like the reserves estimate every year by OPEC country&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least its real oil and not floated like the reserves estimate every year by OPEC country&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of stuff has been going on for ages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most recently after Hurricane Ike the Mexican sold a huge amount of oil cheapky.  The Majors bought it all up and put it on VLCC and have been parking them in the Gulf of Mexico at $100,000 a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of stuff has been going on for ages.</p>
<p>Most recently after Hurricane Ike the Mexican sold a huge amount of oil cheapky.  The Majors bought it all up and put it on VLCC and have been parking them in the Gulf of Mexico at $100,000 a day.</p>
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