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		<title>By: Dave Raithel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Raithel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole &quot;neo-thrift&quot; zeitgeist tasks me, as I am too acquainted with people who have always shopped at Dollar General and Aldi&#039;s, who buy Best Choice products, and even buy house brands at Wal-Mart or Target. I get the point is to illustrate what&#039;s happening in the real economy by documenting what&#039;s happening with &quot;consumers&quot;, in the big sense of that term. But still, I have this little mocking voice in my head that says &quot;Oh no, everybody might be as bad off as somebodies have always been ....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole &#8220;neo-thrift&#8221; zeitgeist tasks me, as I am too acquainted with people who have always shopped at Dollar General and Aldi&#8217;s, who buy Best Choice products, and even buy house brands at Wal-Mart or Target. I get the point is to illustrate what&#8217;s happening in the real economy by documenting what&#8217;s happening with &#8220;consumers&#8221;, in the big sense of that term. But still, I have this little mocking voice in my head that says &#8220;Oh no, everybody might be as bad off as somebodies have always been &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT had a recent article in the same vein: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0baccd7e-a658-11dd-95be-000077b07658.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unilever squeezed by private label products&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT had a recent article in the same vein: <a HREF="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0baccd7e-a658-11dd-95be-000077b07658.html" REL="nofollow">Unilever squeezed by private label products</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per the moisturizer comment, an exaggeration, yes, since it would be difficult to be forced into subjugation by face creams (well, unless your tastes run to La Prairie (for instance, $135 for 1.7 oz of facial masque, $550 for six treatments of &quot;skin caviar intensive ampoule treatment&quot;).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My beef comes from the fact that many products targeted to women are considerably more expensive than those of comparable quality for men. Women have to pay simply ridiculous prices to get clothes of similar quality to good/top quality off the rack men&#039;s suits. There are only one or two women&#039;s designers who when I was assembling my wardrobe (I hate the styles now and prefer to shop in my closet, and when things I like start getting too worn out, have them copied by a tailor) who made shoulders as good as what men could easily get. The tailoring for women&#039;s clothes generally stinks. And even then you had to pay 50% or more over what men paid to get comparable quality work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per the moisturizer comment, an exaggeration, yes, since it would be difficult to be forced into subjugation by face creams (well, unless your tastes run to La Prairie (for instance, $135 for 1.7 oz of facial masque, $550 for six treatments of &#8220;skin caviar intensive ampoule treatment&#8221;).</p>
<p>My beef comes from the fact that many products targeted to women are considerably more expensive than those of comparable quality for men. Women have to pay simply ridiculous prices to get clothes of similar quality to good/top quality off the rack men&#8217;s suits. There are only one or two women&#8217;s designers who when I was assembling my wardrobe (I hate the styles now and prefer to shop in my closet, and when things I like start getting too worn out, have them copied by a tailor) who made shoulders as good as what men could easily get. The tailoring for women&#8217;s clothes generally stinks. And even then you had to pay 50% or more over what men paid to get comparable quality work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems worthwhile to state the obvious corollary for investors: the traditional &quot;recession-proof&quot; stocks like Procter &amp; Gamble and Johnson &amp; Johnson... might not be.  PG @ $65 is at the same level it was in late January.  Short if you dare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems worthwhile to state the obvious corollary for investors: the traditional &quot;recession-proof&quot; stocks like Procter &amp; Gamble and Johnson &amp; Johnson&#8230; might not be.  PG @ $65 is at the same level it was in late January.  Short if you dare?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I agree with the foisted part and the ripoff part but diagree with the conspiracy theory part.  I think the reason many women CHOOSE to be so wrapped up in their looks is because they CHOOSE to use female manipulation to secure their way in the world simply because it&#039;s easier with less uncertainty involved with the process.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So many men and women both will often choose one way over another because it is the easier way.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who was it said, &quot;Thus does our conscience make cowards of us all&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with the foisted part and the ripoff part but diagree with the conspiracy theory part.  I think the reason many women CHOOSE to be so wrapped up in their looks is because they CHOOSE to use female manipulation to secure their way in the world simply because it&#8217;s easier with less uncertainty involved with the process.  </p>
<p>So many men and women both will often choose one way over another because it is the easier way.  </p>
<p>Who was it said, &#8220;Thus does our conscience make cowards of us all&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: ciccocicco</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/recession-trumping-brand-loyalty.html#comment-24618</link>
		<dc:creator>ciccocicco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nearly 25% of respondents reported that it is &quot;really hard to tell the difference&quot; between national brands and store brands of paper products.&quot; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What did the other 75% say?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why is this statistics not showing more dramatically in big brand quarterly results?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who paid for this research?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nearly 25% of respondents reported that it is &#8220;really hard to tell the difference&#8221; between national brands and store brands of paper products.&#8221; </p>
<p>What did the other 75% say?</p>
<p>Why is this statistics not showing more dramatically in big brand quarterly results?</p>
<p>Who paid for this research?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have cut back as well. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Holding off on the platinum (going strictly with white gold) - and never higher rating than VVS2 clarity for the diamonds. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s been tough but I&#039;m getting through it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your concern!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have cut back as well. </p>
<p>Holding off on the platinum (going strictly with white gold) &#8211; and never higher rating than VVS2 clarity for the diamonds. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been tough but I&#8217;m getting through it.</p>
<p>Thanks for your concern!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I really hope you were laughing when you typed this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really hope you were laughing when you typed this.</p>
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		<title>By: bg</title>
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		<dc:creator>bg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think this is an unfair stereotype.  I know many impulsive, broke and dependent men too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moisturizers are one of the many ripoffs foisted on the fairer sex to keep them broke and dependent on male support.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is an unfair stereotype.  I know many impulsive, broke and dependent men too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who opined on store brand toilet paper, I&#039;ll tell you that you are wrong.  I recently tried Walgreens house brand and am throughly satisfied with it.  It is nice and soft and doesn&#039;t tear.  Give it a try.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;btw: If you do buy something new and don&#039;t like it, call the company, complain and ask for a refund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who opined on store brand toilet paper, I&#8217;ll tell you that you are wrong.  I recently tried Walgreens house brand and am throughly satisfied with it.  It is nice and soft and doesn&#8217;t tear.  Give it a try.</p>
<p>btw: If you do buy something new and don&#8217;t like it, call the company, complain and ask for a refund.</p>
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