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		<title>By: Linden</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/12/guest-post-how-can-no-one-see-imminent.html#comment-30404</link>
		<dc:creator>Linden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sure is one cute koala.</description>
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		<title>By: Beanster</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/12/guest-post-how-can-no-one-see-imminent.html#comment-30321</link>
		<dc:creator>Beanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for linking to the WSJ article on synthetic CDO&#039;s which I almost missed.  I got the same sick feeling reading it as when I realized how Bear Stearns was funding subprime mortgage vehicles through commercial paper being bought by money market funds.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If small Australian towns were unknowingly putting their cash on the wrong side of credit default swaps, and could lose 100% of their principal with default rates as low as 3-6% on pools populated by Lehman and GM, then we are looking at major problems.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was a banker that helped Orange County, CA entities avoid/emerge from bankruptcy in the mid-90&#039;s and that debacle seems almost quaint in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves,</p>
<p>Thanks for linking to the WSJ article on synthetic CDO&#8217;s which I almost missed.  I got the same sick feeling reading it as when I realized how Bear Stearns was funding subprime mortgage vehicles through commercial paper being bought by money market funds.  </p>
<p>If small Australian towns were unknowingly putting their cash on the wrong side of credit default swaps, and could lose 100% of their principal with default rates as low as 3-6% on pools populated by Lehman and GM, then we are looking at major problems.</p>
<p>I was a banker that helped Orange County, CA entities avoid/emerge from bankruptcy in the mid-90&#8217;s and that debacle seems almost quaint in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nakedcapitalism in its current format begs to be updated and refreshed; as it is, it is boring and stale!  maybe it&#039;s just XMAS burnout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nakedcapitalism in its current format begs to be updated and refreshed; as it is, it is boring and stale!  maybe it&#8217;s just XMAS burnout?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;graduating from elite financial engineering courses will end up writing computer programs that handle an ever greater share of market trading.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gee, let&#039;s see. The investment banks are making 80 % of their nut through proprietary trading. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wonder if they would steal from me, observing my account, tracking my trading orders, watching my margin vulnerability, using their mutual funds to move the market. No, surely not. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s all invest in equities! Yeah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;graduating from elite financial engineering courses will end up writing computer programs that handle an ever greater share of market trading.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, let&#8217;s see. The investment banks are making 80 % of their nut through proprietary trading. </p>
<p>I wonder if they would steal from me, observing my account, tracking my trading orders, watching my margin vulnerability, using their mutual funds to move the market. No, surely not. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all invest in equities! Yeah</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet, a founder of the hedge fund Access International Advisors, was found dead Tuesday&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, so. Probably did us all a favor. Bernie. Do the right thing. Spill your guts then show some guts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet, a founder of the hedge fund Access International Advisors, was found dead Tuesday</p>
<p>Yeah, so. Probably did us all a favor. Bernie. Do the right thing. Spill your guts then show some guts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Bushies religus play pen pals are going to throuw him out of the pen now. Pat Robertson just cucked him under the bus.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Skippy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Bushies religus play pen pals are going to throuw him out of the pen now. Pat Robertson just cucked him under the bus.</p>
<p>Skippy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis Molchatsky, a 61-year-old retiree from New City, New York, is seeking $1.7 million in damages from the agency. It is believed to be the first attempt by an investor to recover losses from the SEC.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyNewsMolt/idUKN2354355520081223?pageNumber=1&amp;virtualBrandChannel=0&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Suing the SEC now that would be interesting, failure to act, due diligence, culpable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;skippy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis Molchatsky, a 61-year-old retiree from New City, New York, is seeking $1.7 million in damages from the agency. It is believed to be the first attempt by an investor to recover losses from the SEC.</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyNewsMolt/idUKN2354355520081223?pageNumber=1&amp;virtualBrandChannel=0" rel="nofollow">http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyNewsMolt/idUKN2354355520081223?pageNumber=1&amp;virtualBrandChannel=0</a></p>
<p>Suing the SEC now that would be interesting, failure to act, due diligence, culpable.</p>
<p>skippy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally off topic but where is that photo from?  [koala]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally off topic but where is that photo from?  [koala]</p>
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		<title>By: Gentlemutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gentlemutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the synthetic CDOs were typically against a large group of names, say 100. Payment was triggered if defaults exceeded a certain level. The lists contained names that sounded solid to foreigners, like Citigroup, GM, but were anything but. Some have alleged that the lists were deliberately seeded with famous names that had reasonable odds of failure.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hello Yves.  This is reminiscent of the early, more simple, days of the derivatives markets.  The classic story for introductory rate-swap presentations circa 1985 was that of Pan Am.  Pan Am could borrow at much lower rates in places like Switzerland than in the USA, precisely because some people overseas just assumed they were an American national airline (appeared in 2001: Space Odyssey and all that, must be a good company), so Pan Am would issue debt in Swiss Francs and then the friendly bankers would help swap the money back to dollars and a tenor that suited.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Right from the beginning the OTC derivatives markets were geared to arbitrage ignorance.  The polite term was &quot;information advantage.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Merry Christmas! We&#039;ll do better next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the synthetic CDOs were typically against a large group of names, say 100. Payment was triggered if defaults exceeded a certain level. The lists contained names that sounded solid to foreigners, like Citigroup, GM, but were anything but. Some have alleged that the lists were deliberately seeded with famous names that had reasonable odds of failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hello Yves.  This is reminiscent of the early, more simple, days of the derivatives markets.  The classic story for introductory rate-swap presentations circa 1985 was that of Pan Am.  Pan Am could borrow at much lower rates in places like Switzerland than in the USA, precisely because some people overseas just assumed they were an American national airline (appeared in 2001: Space Odyssey and all that, must be a good company), so Pan Am would issue debt in Swiss Francs and then the friendly bankers would help swap the money back to dollars and a tenor that suited.</p>
<p>Right from the beginning the OTC derivatives markets were geared to arbitrage ignorance.  The polite term was &#8220;information advantage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Merry Christmas! We&#8217;ll do better next year.</p>
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		<title>By: RK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Indy Mac&lt;br/&gt;I believe it was Yves who provided the link, 6 or 7 &lt;br/&gt;months ago, to the chilling history of fraud at indy Mac, which goes back to 2001.  If you haven&#039;t read,&lt;br/&gt;&quot;My experience at Indy Mac&quot;, you can google it and&lt;br/&gt;learn how the former Chairman, a protege of Bronzillo&lt;br/&gt;looted the place.  Plus, it&#039;s an entertaining read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Indy Mac<br />I believe it was Yves who provided the link, 6 or 7 <br />months ago, to the chilling history of fraud at indy Mac, which goes back to 2001.  If you haven&#8217;t read,<br />&#8220;My experience at Indy Mac&#8221;, you can google it and<br />learn how the former Chairman, a protege of Bronzillo<br />looted the place.  Plus, it&#8217;s an entertaining read.</p>
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