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	<title>Comments on: Moody&#8217;s Pandemic Cost Estimate</title>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46157</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link:http://www.grist.org/article/2009-chinese-agribiz-giant-eyes-smithfield-ta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>link:http://www.grist.org/article/2009-chinese-agribiz-giant-eyes-smithfield-ta</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46156</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay Doc H.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chinese agribiz giant eyes Smithfield takeover (Smithfield, the owners of the piggery claimed to be the epicenter).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out the photo with caption &quot;want some Chinese dollar reserves in that rations&quot; ROFL&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Skippy...swine in the Financial sector, in the Government and Now in us, cough, cough. You are so correct, its a piggy take over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay Doc H.</p>
<p>Chinese agribiz giant eyes Smithfield takeover (Smithfield, the owners of the piggery claimed to be the epicenter).</p>
<p>Check out the photo with caption &#8220;want some Chinese dollar reserves in that rations&#8221; ROFL</p>
<p>Skippy&#8230;swine in the Financial sector, in the Government and Now in us, cough, cough. You are so correct, its a piggy take over!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46155</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the Aporkalypse!</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46151</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a particularly rational reaction to the outbreak:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BBC reports that Egypt has decided to immediately slaughter all Egyptian pigs. Reportedly, none of those pigs show any signs of illness, but never mind. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The head of the Muslim Brotherhood approved and issued a statement that &quot;Pigs are more dangerous than hydrogen bombs&quot;. Presumably, it serves the world right to be punished for disobeying the teachings of the Holy Qu&#039;ran...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a particularly rational reaction to the outbreak:</p>
<p>BBC reports that Egypt has decided to immediately slaughter all Egyptian pigs. Reportedly, none of those pigs show any signs of illness, but never mind. </p>
<p>The head of the Muslim Brotherhood approved and issued a statement that &#8220;Pigs are more dangerous than hydrogen bombs&#8221;. Presumably, it serves the world right to be punished for disobeying the teachings of the Holy Qu&#8217;ran&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VG Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46144</link>
		<dc:creator>VG Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that anything the crooked morons at Moody’s are spewing out bears any value anymore, but I was wondering whether they have factored in the extra cash that the drug/vaccine companies, greedy doctors, and grave diggers are going to make out of this pandemic? I bet it would be an overall economic boost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vinny GOLDberg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that anything the crooked morons at Moody’s are spewing out bears any value anymore, but I was wondering whether they have factored in the extra cash that the drug/vaccine companies, greedy doctors, and grave diggers are going to make out of this pandemic? I bet it would be an overall economic boost.</p>
<p>Vinny GOLDberg</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46141</link>
		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To expand/correct on &#039;mobilize the country:&#039;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By &#039;mobilize,&#039; I mean inspire and provide financial incentives for private sector innovation in vaccine distribution systems which are known to be inadequate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the time for change and innovation has been declared at the highest levels as &#039;now&#039; and stimulus funds widely publicized as ideal for that purpose?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Production cannot be decided until a vaccine is developed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My understanding as a reader is that to complicate things there is a possibility of 2 different flu- like diseases being reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To expand/correct on &#8216;mobilize the country:&#8217;</p>
<p>By &#8216;mobilize,&#8217; I mean inspire and provide financial incentives for private sector innovation in vaccine distribution systems which are known to be inadequate. </p>
<p>I think the time for change and innovation has been declared at the highest levels as &#8216;now&#8217; and stimulus funds widely publicized as ideal for that purpose?</p>
<p>Production cannot be decided until a vaccine is developed.</p>
<p>My understanding as a reader is that to complicate things there is a possibility of 2 different flu- like diseases being reported.</p>
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		<title>By: DownSouth</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46139</link>
		<dc:creator>DownSouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeeAnne said... &quot;A leader would be using this opportunity to mobilize the country and set an example for a reformed distribution system for a vaccine once it is developed.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#039;s another &lt;i&gt;NY Times&lt;/i&gt; story that explores the timeline, assuming the U.S. moved as fast as it could, for getting the U.S. and world populations vaccinated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Federal officials said it would take until January, or late November at the earliest, to make enough vaccine to protect all Americans from a possible epidemic of swine flu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And beyond the United States and a few other countries that also make vaccines, some experts said it could take years to produce enough swine flu vaccine to satisfy global demand.&lt;/i&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/business/economy/29vaccine.html?hpw&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the government still hasn&#039;t decided whether or not to proceed with vaccine production:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Federal officials have not yet made a decision on whether the swine flu is enough of a threat to warrant vaccine production.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeeAnne said&#8230; &#8220;A leader would be using this opportunity to mobilize the country and set an example for a reformed distribution system for a vaccine once it is developed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another <i>NY Times</i> story that explores the timeline, assuming the U.S. moved as fast as it could, for getting the U.S. and world populations vaccinated:</p>
<p><i>Federal officials said it would take until January, or late November at the earliest, to make enough vaccine to protect all Americans from a possible epidemic of swine flu.</p>
<p>And beyond the United States and a few other countries that also make vaccines, some experts said it could take years to produce enough swine flu vaccine to satisfy global demand.</i>~</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/business/economy/29vaccine.html?hpw" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/business/economy/29vaccine.html?hpw</a></p>
<p>However, the government still hasn&#8217;t decided whether or not to proceed with vaccine production:</p>
<p><i>Federal officials have not yet made a decision on whether the swine flu is enough of a threat to warrant vaccine production.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan Duncan: Well said. As a veteran of the SARS &quot;outbreak&quot; in Toronto, where a total of _44_ people died from what could have been any flu, it feels like deja &#039;flu&#039; (sorry, couldn&#039;t resist).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It really is amazing how gullible people are in how effectively panic has been stirred up; either that, or the disconnect between what our news media reports and the reality on the streets and in the minds of people will have decayed to the level of totalitarian regimes, where reports of surpluses and plenty are looked at in puzzlement by people without anything to eat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If 20-30y old people in good health start dropping like flies in the streets with visible sores on their limbs, then we should begin to worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan Duncan: Well said. As a veteran of the SARS &#8220;outbreak&#8221; in Toronto, where a total of _44_ people died from what could have been any flu, it feels like deja &#8216;flu&#8217; (sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist).</p>
<p>It really is amazing how gullible people are in how effectively panic has been stirred up; either that, or the disconnect between what our news media reports and the reality on the streets and in the minds of people will have decayed to the level of totalitarian regimes, where reports of surpluses and plenty are looked at in puzzlement by people without anything to eat.</p>
<p>If 20-30y old people in good health start dropping like flies in the streets with visible sores on their limbs, then we should begin to worry.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/moodys-pandemic-cost-estimate.html#comment-46133</link>
		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to get the link right:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following is a long read -a version of past abuses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/428722.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to get the link right:</p>
<p>Following is a long read -a version of past abuses:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/428722.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/428722.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following is a long read –a version of past abuses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/428722.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>Following is a long read –a version of past abuses:<br /><a HREF="http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/04/428722.html" REL="nofollow"></a></p>
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