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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: Pension Probe Tip of Private Equity&#8217;s Woes</title>
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		<title>By: Leo Kolivakis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Kolivakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hedge funds and private equity funds got some funding from the Fed, but it won&#039;t be enough to make a dent in the avalanche of deflationary asset values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cheers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>Hedge funds and private equity funds got some funding from the Fed, but it won&#8217;t be enough to make a dent in the avalanche of deflationary asset values.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>Leo</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Private equity and hedge funds, like the banks, are hiding their insolvency behind a wall of opacity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is really a very simple equation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;high leverage + declining asset value = insolvency&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These firms will go kersplat at some point unless they get access to outside funding, like through the Fed.  I seem to remember that hedge funds got some access to Fed programs.  I don&#039;t recall this was the case with private equity.  Pleas feel free to correct me if my memory is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private equity and hedge funds, like the banks, are hiding their insolvency behind a wall of opacity.</p>
<p>It is really a very simple equation:</p>
<p>high leverage + declining asset value = insolvency</p>
<p>These firms will go kersplat at some point unless they get access to outside funding, like through the Fed.  I seem to remember that hedge funds got some access to Fed programs.  I don&#8217;t recall this was the case with private equity.  Pleas feel free to correct me if my memory is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Brick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What some real gossip on Nakedcapitalism, how exactly are we supposed to read the following.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a &quot;deep personal relationship&quot; with the Goldman executive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think he already has nine children. Regardless of this and it could just be a cover for improper behaviur, who in their right mind would think moving money from bonds to equities in 2008 was a good idea. &lt;br /&gt; So Carlyle admits that some of its tactics bordered on bribes and kickbacks. The missing link of course is the accusation by Carlyle that they were arm twisted into using Hank Morris&#039;s firm. Not that Carlyle can truely claim inocence after the episode with Karl Rove.&lt;br /&gt; The private equity fund problem could well create a wave of bankruptcies as many of the equity buy out firms they hold are not performing well. Only those funds with a truly long term vision, ratehr than teh asset strippers are likely to survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; All this just goes to show how much money these firms and politicians really are skimming off. The risk is that it was so rampant that class warfare ensues as it is exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What some real gossip on Nakedcapitalism, how exactly are we supposed to read the following.</p>
<p>a &#8220;deep personal relationship&#8221; with the Goldman executive.</p>
<p>I think he already has nine children. Regardless of this and it could just be a cover for improper behaviur, who in their right mind would think moving money from bonds to equities in 2008 was a good idea. <br /> So Carlyle admits that some of its tactics bordered on bribes and kickbacks. The missing link of course is the accusation by Carlyle that they were arm twisted into using Hank Morris&#8217;s firm. Not that Carlyle can truely claim inocence after the episode with Karl Rove.<br /> The private equity fund problem could well create a wave of bankruptcies as many of the equity buy out firms they hold are not performing well. Only those funds with a truly long term vision, ratehr than teh asset strippers are likely to survive.</p>
<p> All this just goes to show how much money these firms and politicians really are skimming off. The risk is that it was so rampant that class warfare ensues as it is exposed.</p>
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