Links 3/6/16

All Clear on Recession Risk? Not Yet WSJ

Does This “Panic Index” Show A Major Crisis Coming In Oil And Gas? Oilprice.com

Deutsche Bank May Lose Key Power to Run Pension Assets Barron’s

The strong case against independent central banks Mainly Macro

Exclusive: U.S. watchdog to probe Fed’s lax oversight of Wall Street Reuters. “Ranking representatives Maxine Waters of the House Financial Services Committee and Al Green of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations asked the Government Accountability Office on Oct. 8 to launch a probe of ‘regulatory capture’ and to focus on the New York Fed.”

Whistleblower Delivers A Triple Whammy To Olympus; More Companies Might Get Hit Forbes. AF: “To non-US bad actors who don’t have friends in high places…. Contrast this with what happens to banksters benefiting from the revolving door and political connections at the highest level.”

As Delong Says, Brookings Is Wrong On The Productivity Slowdown Forbes. “[G]lobally we have Facebook marked down as providing some $18 billion of economic value, that should then translate into perhaps $36 billion of consumer surplus which is the true measure of how we’ll we’re doing as humans. And yet that’s obviously ridiculous: something that 1 billion people do for an average 20 minutes a day simply cannot be valued at such a low number. ”

Trump Panic

Psychologists and massage therapists are reporting ‘Trump anxiety’ among clients WaPo. Oh noes!!!!!!

Donald Trump’s Policies Are Not Anathema to U.S. Mainstream, but an Uncomfortable Reflection of It The Intercept (Re Silc).

Trump’s Triumphs Demolish Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP Strategy Haaretz. So the neocons think they’ll do better with Clinton….

Trump kills GOP autopsy Politico

Trade, Trump, and Downward Class Warfare Washington Monthly (Re Silc).

The local faces of Trump’s army Philadelphia Inquirer

This Is Trump Country NYT

Not even my wife knows’: secret Donald Trump voters speak out Guardian

Chickens, Home to Roost MoDo, NYT

Lessons from The New York Times Super Tuesday hoax: Five ways to spot fake news First Draft News

2016

U.S. primary state results WaPo

Mahoning Co. sees 1K Dems defect to GOP The Vindicator. Youngstown, Ohio. Note that Youngstown, besides being a sacrifice zone for deindustrialization, was also hit hard by foreclosure (Tim Ryan represents Youngstown in the House).

Sanders keeps raising millions — and spending them, a potential problem for Clinton WaPo (JW).

The Bogus Power of the Black Vote Within the Confines of the Democratic Party Black Agenda Report

Stop laughing, Democrats! As the GOP goes down in flames, your post-Bernie civil war is almost here Salon

The United States of Cory Booker Cory Booker. VP trial balloon? And for your reference.

Study: Bernie Sanders’s tax hikes are bigger than Donald Trump’s tax cuts Vox. I guess “redistributive'” is too long to fit in a headline? There’s such a fine line between explaining and framing….

A Dark Legacy: Hillary Clinton’s Role in the Mexican Drug War Counterpunch

The Clinton Email Bernie Sanders Should Bring Up in Sunday’s Debate The Nation. I can’t help but think that major fractions of the Hispanic vote might be concerned over Clinton’s role in both Honduras and Colombia (the subject of this article).

Campaign watch: Colbert King doesn’t want to generalize! The Daily Howler. For those who came in late, the Howler invented the blogosphere’s “media critique” — starting with the role of the press in 2000’s Bush v. Gore campaign. I can’t imagine why his head hasn’t exploded.

Trump or Clinton: Who’s Better for Investors? Barron’s. “Why Republicans will likely hold their noses and vote for Hillary in the 2016 presidential election.”

Sanders is Right, the US Needs a Healthcare System More Like Those in Europe EconoMonitor. Thorough demolition of the crapola being peddled on single payer by soi disant progressives like Operative K, et al.

Physicians & Medical Students: Sign the open letter on the truth about Medicare-for-All PNHP

All Payor Claims Databases: ERISA Pre-emption and the Tragedy of the Commons Modern Health Care

Meet the ‘rented white coats’ who defend toxic chemicals Center for Public Integrity

Europe?

Europe’s hope for unity fading as it confronts rising discontent McClatchy

New Fences on the Old Continent: Refugee Crisis Pushes Europe to the Brink Der Speigel (Re Silc).

Surprise! The EU Just Admitted That Ukraine Will Never Be a Member State Russia Insider (CL).

Syraqistan

EU to push Turkey to take back migrants on ‘large-scale’ Daily Star

Erdogan mulls giant ‘refugee city’ in north Syria Al Arabiya

China?

In New Economic Plan, China Bets That Hard Choices Can Be Avoided NYT. If “hard choices” means in China what it does in the US, the peasants would be screwed.

China’s economy will ‘absolutely not’ experience hard landing: state planner Reuters. Good to know.

Death and Despair in China’s Rustbelt Bloomberg

Class Warfare

What Percent Are You? Wall Street Journal

One-to-One Duke University

So, why is a college degree worth less if you are raised poor? A response to readers’ comments Brookings

At the Milk Bar n+1

Podcasts create golden age of audio FT

Learn Different The New Yorker. Have a bag handy.

Japan taxpayers pay $100bn Fukushima bill FT

The Greek tragedy of the billionaire who fracked up Pa. Will Bunch, Philadelphia Daily News

Antidote du jour (Chet G):

coot

Chet writes: “An American coot (big feet!!!) being released to a pond at Bald Eagle State Park.”

See yesterday’s Links and Antidote du Jour here.

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242 comments

  1. Llewelyn Moss

    Howard Dean explains to a commoner why he will NOT vote for Bernie (as a Cheater delegate, opps I meant Super delegate)

    Via Twitter

    Commoner
    @GovHowardDean Your SD vote goes 2 Hillary no matter what? Way to represent the people! @BernieSanders will make a great Prez in spite of u

    Howard Dean
    @D_Born @BernieSanders Super delegates don’t “represent people” I’m not elected by anyone. I’ll do what I think is right for the country

    Yay Democrat Party. The party that helps you not elect the ‘wrong’ candidate. Thanks gawd for Cheater delegates b/c We So Stupid.

    1. Tony S

      Howard Dean’s insurgent 2004 campaign got shot down by the Dem establishment, who foisted the “electable” John Kerry upon us instead. (How did that work out?) And now Howard’s been completely co-opted by that which he once stood against.

      Same story as, say, Daily Kos.

      How does this happen? (Serious question.)

        1. Tony S

          Howard Dean is 67 years old. He’s not going to be running for any future political offices, He ran the DNC far more successfully than his predecessors or successors, and his reward was a kick in the butt to oblivion as soon as his term expired. He’s a medical doctor; I can’t imagine he’s struggling financially. He owes the establishment Dems NOTHING.

          I can’t imagine it has anything to do with being “spineless”. He took on the Dem pro-war establishment very courageously in 2003. That took a lot more guts than standing up to the Clintons (which he did as DNC chair). Something happened here, and I’m very curious as to what it was.

          Whatever, Dean is now in the Krugman/Maddow/John Lewis club of formerly-admirable sellouts.

          1. NotTimothyGeithner

            Dean was always a conservative. Except for Iraq which was worth voting for, his other views had no place in a Democratic candidate anywhere. Cutting social security and moving the retirement age to 70 are Dean’s positions. He was a supporter of free trade deals.

            He said on national news he would drop his rhetoric if he was nominated to be more pragmatic.

          2. Jess

            “Krugman/Maddow/John Lewis club of formerly-admirable sellouts.”

            Glad you included Maddow on that list. What a con artist she turned out to be. Not to mention pedantic and repetitive in her delivery. Glad I haven’t watched MS-DNC in a looong time.

              1. NotTimothyGeithner

                Olbermann started as just Olbermann doing news instead of sportscenter while he was angling to be the Yankees play by play guy. Worst person in the world was largely just stupid convenience store robbers until Katrina.

                They fired Donahue in 2002 despite having the highest rated show for his opposition to the Iraq War while keeping Tweety.

                1. OIFVet

                  It was during Katrina that I discovered Olbermann. Fortuitous timing, I guess. Prior to that I knew him only as that ESPN guy so I never tuned in.

                  1. NotTimothyGeithner

                    It was still better than anything else, and he had better guests than anyone.

                    The show was only two years old by then. If I recall, he came after a repeat of Tweety which was sandwiched around Tucker Carlson. MSNBC was always such a train wreck.

                2. Gio Bruno

                  Olbermann actually began as a sport reporter at UPI, then CNN (1980’s), then as a TV sport anchor at KTLA in Los Angeles. While he has his quirks, he is very smart guy; and as everyone knows—outspoken!

                  1. NotTimothyGeithner

                    Don’t get me wrong. I love Olbermann and Dan Patrick.

                    Olbermann’s original special comment was a yuge deal. It wasn’t part of his outward facade, even if you had suspicions.

                    Do you remember when Chuck Knoblauch beaned Keith’s mom during Chuck’s breakdown?

                  2. different clue

                    I remember watching Olbermann delivering a straight-news item read off a script about a “Monica Lewinski” and a “blue dress”. And when he was done reading about that item he looked at the camera and said: “God! And I thought sports journalism was shallow.”

                    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

                      Romans knew there was no difference, whether a reporter was covering events at the Colosseum or at the Palatine Hill.

      1. Michael

        If you lose bad enough and hard enough, you revise your opinion of what is physically possible.

      2. myshkin

        From an MSNBC article on Sanders and Dean.
        “In his 1997 book “Outside in the House,” Sanders called Dean “a moderate-to-conservative Democrat,” which might as well be a four letter word for Sanders. When Sanders ran for reelection to Congress as a independent in 1996, most of the Democratic Party, including President Bill Clinton, tacitly supported Sanders over his Democratic challenger, Jack Long. “To the best of my knowledge, Governor Dean is the only major Democrat to come out for [Long],” Sanders noted at the time.”

        Dean was never quite the apostate Democrat that Bernie the “socialist” indepenedent was and still perhaps is. Their history has history.

        1. different clue

          And perhaps Dean is also motivated by bitter spite. “I lost, how dare Sanders win.”

      3. optimader

        I looked at the daily Koz homepage once for my curiosity just to see if his shilling was at least creative(not so much), after seeing him interviewed when just coming on the radar as an agitent evoking such conservative ire that the DK brand became an epitaph equivalent with, say, “liberal”
        So asking from a position of relative ignorance.
        Was DK ever co-opted, or is it just what it always has been?

          1. optimader

            Come on big fella – take this guitar! Put on this wide belt and work shirt and tell it like it was!
            ~Firesign Theater How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You’re Not Anywhere At All (1969)

        1. Llewelyn Moss

          IMO, DKos seemed like a progressive site back when the common enemy was W Bush. Then when Obama came in, it became strictly partisan DNC propaganda — excusing Obama’s neoliberal crap, stuff they would have skewered Bush for. Anyone calling foul on Obama was quickly branded racist. Now they are driving out the riff-raff (progressives/liberals) to clear the landing strip for Hellery’s Hindenburg.

          1. Lord Koos

            Yes — dailykos has always been centrist/faintly “liberal”, and Markos seems to be a tool of the mainstream Democratic party. There used to be a lot of blather about how much we need to vote out blue dog dems and elect progressive candidates to replace them… but as soon as Sanders came along that sort of changed. The fact that Sanders makes these “influential” Democrats so uncomfortable is just one more good reason to vote for him.

          2. Bas

            Actually, Kos himself called foul on Obama in 2008 (after HRC left the race). There is a March 5 DK diary about this I can’t find right now. And he did build the site on “Crashing the Gate”.

            and here is what it is today–an actual comment from yesterday to a Bernie supporter:

            I hope Trumps supporters go after you like they do Black protestors.

          3. M.Black

            Back in 2012 I left/was ejected from Daily Kos when Markos laid down the law that he would brook no criticism of the Democratic presidential nominee that year. I had stated that I didn’t see much hope for this country until the day came when an unprincipled, lying sack of shit like Obama was greeted with exactly the same contempt and ridicule being dished out daily for Mitt Romney in those days. The story remains the same. Just the names change. Obama/Hillary, Romney/Trump (or whoever). The difference this election cycle may well be, however, that a lot of non-Republican voters are indeed gearing up their contempt and ridicule for a very deserving Democratic nominee. Hope?

          4. Tony S

            To be fair, Kos was one of the leading advocates to get rid of Joe Lieberman, who was about as toxic a “democrat” as there ever has been. And the site has had its moments calling out blue dogs, even trying to primary them.

            Unfortunately, the site seems to have “evolved”, and in a bad way. You couldn’t slip a nail file into the policy space between Hillary and Holy Joe.

            1. Christopher D. Rogers

              For all those lamenting at the political stance of Daily Kos, as a Brit, one need only look at the UK’s The Guardian website to see how corrosive neoliberalism has been to once progressive news outlets. As with Kos, The Guardian’s coverage of HRC has been a disgrace, nothing but a cheerleader for a warmonger with blood on her hands.

              However, hope exists, for as in The Guardian’s tainted and biased coverage of the election of Jeremy Corbyn to the leadership of the UK’s Labour Party, many commenters when allowed to comment – talk about censorship – were appalled by The Guardian and its support for Blairite neoliberals, who have much in common with HRC’s supporters.

              For those wishing to gauge how crass The Guardian’s coverage of the US Democratic Primaries has been, one need only look at the comments below today’s leading story on the weekends Primaries, of which Sander’s won the majority of states contested: Here’s the link and please look at the comments rather than the main story itself:

        2. lyman alpha blob

          The latter, IMNSHO. Nice packaging to draw you in but the some old crap once you get inside and look around.

      4. Benedict@Large

        The Clinton Foundation has received $150 million dollars. What the #### do you think that’s for? Charity?

        1. sd

          Is there a single issue taken on by the Clinton Foundation that stands out? The Carter Center has done heavy lifting on many causes to make the world a better place. The Clinton Foundation….?

          1. NotTimothyGeithner

            Raising money. Getting Hillary into the White House. Employing Clinton loyalists who would otherwise be unemployable trolls in a good economy. This three issues the CGI is on top of. That’s way more than Bernie Sanders foundation. Oh, he doesn’t have one. I guess he isn’t smart enough to pillage third world countries for profit.

        1. Gio Bruno

          The status quo is already doing that: 25% of US children live in poverty—for minorities it’s worse.

      5. john

        An academic term for this is ‘regulatory capture.’

        I use the parallel of food safety. Food inspectors and other regulators, by their nature, have only a fraction of the resources of the larger systems they should be influencing for the better.

        If you have one reformer for every 20 regular workers, the reformer must match his actions to will of the larger industry he effectively feeds upon.

        Same story in the medical industry, media regulators, or yes… the political commentary or advocacy spheres.

        I still have my Kucinich T-Shirt. I particuarly liked his last speech in congress… “Is this the US Congress, or the board of Goldman Sachs!”

        (Other than that, he was really just re-hashing Bobby Kennedy’s program, platform, and messaging… I came to find out later. I’m 31, BTW.)

        He was removed from congress shortly after, by hook or by crook.

        Next thing I know, they have him be the ‘out-caste liberal’ playing Immanuel Goldstein, the enemy of the people from 1984.

        I believe the Jesuits call it the ‘controlled opposition.’

  2. DakotabornKansan

    Surely Trump won’t ever get far. The American people will never be taken in by such a clown.

    In 1932, Dorothy Thompson, “I Saw Hitler,” predicted that Hitler would never come to power. She believed the German demagogue was too peculiar to be a threat. Although, prophetically, she warned: “If Hitler comes to power, he will smite only the weakest of his enemies.” http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic1292219.files/Week%205/I%20Saw%20Hitler!.pdf

    The revealing Guardian article on secret Donald Trump voters is alarming.

    William E. Dodd, US Ambassador to Hitler’s Germany (1933 to 1937), wrote: “I can think of no country where the psychology is so abnormal as that which prevails here now.”

    From Ambassador Dodd’s speech (1933) to the Berlin Branch of the American Chamber of Commerce:

    “Governments from the top fail as often as those from the bottom; and every great failure brings a sad social reaction, thousands and millions of helpless men laying down their lives in the unhappy process.

    “Why may not statesmen study the past and avoid such catastrophes? One may safely say that it would be no sin if statesmen learned enough of history to realize that no system, which implies control of society by privilege seekers, has ever ended in any other way than collapse.”

    The past speaks to us in a thousand voices. History is a vast early warning system.

    “By this time, August 1939, all sections of the regime, and the masses who had been so jubilant at Hitler’s every “success,” had ensured that their fate was tied to the decisions of the Führer. So it would remain down to 1945. In the wartime years, as seemingly glorious victory gave way to mounting, inexorable calamity, as defeat on defeat inevitably eroded the charismatic basis of his leadership, and as it became plain that he was leading Germany into the abyss, the fateful bonds with Hitler that had been sealed in the “good years” of the 1930s ensured that there was now no way back. The German people, having supported Hitler’s triumphs, were now condemned to suffer the catastrophe into which he had led them.” – Ian Kershaw, “Fatal Narcissisim, The Führer Myth: How Hitler Won Over the German People,” http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-fuehrer-myth-how-hitler-won-over-the-german-people-a-531909-5.html

    1. optimader

      Isn’t a Hitler comparison a preemptive closer? Apparently not, at least you quote historical reference.

      Singling out Trump for a comparison to that particular Bavarian Army Corporal implies a differentiation from the D POTUS-in-Waiting.

      To be fair to the bombastic Trump, he has less blood on his hands at this point. On their records, one can easily substitute HRC i9n that text, or for that matter BHO Round Two (giving him the benefit of the doubt in 2008)

      Maybe Congress should pass a Hitler Memorial Artist Appreciation Bill offering Trump and HRC both free tuition to a notable Art School and pre-placement in the National Gallery (basement) of their watercolors, while we have a Primary season do-over? I’m guessing a R majority would be all over that.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          I doubt Hillary would sign non-aggression pact with Russia, before moving on to occupy half of Ukraine or Syria.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        Another possibility is Tojo.

        Aided by a central bank that bought government debt, Japan was able to expand her military and took over a big chunk of China.

        Our Tojo will probably take on Russia and Iran with a very understanding central bank.

      2. Pavel

        Nick Kristoff in today’s NYT had an alarmist headline about Trump, warning that “he might start a trade war, or a real war”. Oh my god, he might start a real war? Unlike, say, Bush père, GWB, Obama, and Hillary? Just the last two have started wars in Syria and Libya, and supported Saudi Arabia’s horrific genocide in Yemen. And for Kristoff perhaps all the dirty little CIA/Obama drone wars don’t count?

    2. Jess

      “no system, which implies control of society by privilege seekers, has ever ended in any other way than collapse.”

      Thanks for that quote. It’s a keeper.

    3. ewmayer

      “Why may not statesmen study the past and avoid such catastrophes? One may safely say that it would be no sin if statesmen learned enough of history to realize that no system, which implies control of society by privilege seekers, has ever ended in any other way than collapse.”

      Hitler’s rise was arguably a result of control and perma-impoverishment of German society by outside political (the states which ended up on the ‘winning’ side of the Great War) and financial (those enforcing the odious regime of reparations payments) interests. Thus you have a large and once-proud peoples feeling like they they have been condemned into servitude by powerful interests beyond their control. Sound vaguely familiar? Demagogues simply don’t ascend to power in times of broad prosperity and hope.

      1. alex morfesis

        The germans were faked out by their own…the were never any reparations paid so there was no suffering because of outsiders…the german royals and their minions did a monsterous capital strike to fight against the plebes revolting and creating or attempting a non royal republic…to the victors go the history books…also before some A-O decides to defend the farterland…the mystery wheelbarrow people doesnt exist…hundred bux for the person can provide a photo from 1919-1923 with any such thing being handled by a real person and not some normal internal bank bulk bill carrier…
        It never happened…but since it has been repeated a million times…the echo becomes a reality…Berlusconi or hughy long perhaps…but no one nut wonder be drumpf…

  3. Christopher Fay

    They’re not “Stupiddelegates,” they’re Insider Delegates. So that chump decided to be an insider.

    1. Llewelyn Moss

      I believe they prefer the term “Party Royalty”.

      “Insider” is such a crass term. Please try to show due respect to the Aristocrats. :-)

        1. Llewelyn Moss

          With that bourgeois attitude you most certainly will not be invited to the Coronation. Good day sir! hahaha.

          1. cwaltz

            Someone get Nancy Pelosi the fainting couch and her smelling salts…….the commoners aren’t showing proper deference to the ruling elites.

            1. Gio Bruno

              As a Californian, I can say this: It’s time for Pelosi, and Fienstein to follow Boxer out the door? (The face-lifting is getting too extreme; let younger ladies on to the stage.)

  4. Kokuanani

    Corey Booker “for your reference” item: “stop attacking private equity”???? I guess THAT tells us all we need to know about Mr. Booker.

    Yes, I fear he’ll be Hill’s VP, if not Julian Castro.

    1. Lambert Strether Post author

      I think the Democrat Hive Mind wants a Hispanic in 2024, following A Woman’s triumphant reelection in 2020. So the young, ambitious, and overly personable Mr. Booker will have to wait.

        1. optimader

          As I recall, Nixon’s “landslide” victory kept sliding ’til his resignation.

          1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

            If only he had been more interested in womanizing, instead of breaking in, he would have beaten the impeachment attempt, and gave us Single Payer Health Insurance for All.

            But, alas, he was not that good looking.

            Maybe there is a lesson in there.

      1. Gio Bruno

        As Galafianakis (sp?) said to Barrack: How does it feel to be the last Black president?

    2. bob

      Another post to mod hell.

      Good story on Corey Booker-

      “The Neocon, The Messiah, and Cory Booker” @ NSFWcorp by yasha levine

      WIth no link, maybe it gets through?

  5. Steve H.

    Erdogan has Turkey’s largest newspaper shut down.

    “One reporter, Abdullah Bozturk, said attempts were also under way to wipe the newspaper’s entire online archive.”

    bbc.com/news/world-europe-35735793

  6. abynormal

    WSJ wants to know if i know what percent i inhabit?…THE % THAT CAN’T AFFORD TO OPEN YOUR RAG.

    The percentage you’re paying is too high priced While you’re living beyond all your means And the man in the suit has just bought a new car From the profit he’s made on your dreams.
    oh well…

    Good Morning Lambert…miss yall.

    1. Ulysses

      Your allusion, to the lyrics of that lengthy, spacey song by Traffic, filled me with a powerful wave of nostalgia. Thanks for providing a “low spark” that will fuel me all day!

  7. Chris in Paris

    re: “Learn Different” New Yorker: Bless their hearts, they wouldn’t dirty their fingers by mentioning the $25,000 tuition for a year of pre-K at “AltSchool”, would they?

    1. Katniss Everdeen

      So what’s with the title–is it satire?

      Should be “Learn Different-LY.”

      As for “personalized learning,” that’s been around forever. I can remember back in the 60’s and 70’s when plenty of students didn’t want to bother with math since “they’d never need to use it.” Joke was on them, though. It was grammar they’d never need to use. Even as writers.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        Grammar is for enlightenment*, while math, beyond the basic stuff, is for designing financial derivatives.

        *except for those interested in a Grammar-Nazi career.

      2. neo-realist

        Even with grammar back in the 70’s, the attitude among teachers in middle school and high school was that the substance of what one wrote was important and the ability to structure your thoughts grammatically was not so important.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          That was before people started posting, unprotected by high school teachers, on internet blogs.

      3. cyclist

        Er, I think the title of the article is riffing on the ‘Think Different’ ads from Apple….

  8. Steve H.

    – Exclusive: U.S. watchdog to probe Fed’s lax oversight of Wall Street

    Is this real life? Does not appear to be parody. In fact…

    It’s a little early to be throwing Warren under the bus. Her best has not been on the campaign trail. Let her work.

    1. Brian

      is this the real life, or is this just fantasy
      caught in a landslide no escape from reality.

      both

    2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      To focus on the New York Fed.

      Why not also on the ‘weak’ White House?

  9. NoOne

    So when did Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska become “hotbeds of socialism?”

    Why is Bernie’s message getting through in some of the most conservative states in the union and falling flat in Massachusetts? I hope someone at Bernie HQ is looking into this because it makes no sense to me.

    1. Scott

      A big reason that he lost in Massachusetts was Sanders’ poor performance in Boston’s western suburbs, which are full of the high income social “liberals” that the Democratic establishment wants (either for votes or money)

      I also think he was hurt by Trump, who attracted a lot of lower income white voters. There is some anecdotal evidence suggesting that there were Trump voters who would have voted for Sanders in the Democratic primary. I wonder if this cross-over helps explain why Sanders does better in states with closed Republican primaries – those voters are forced to participate in the Dem primary and vote for Bernie.

    2. Llewelyn Moss

      Excellent point. The Mid West appears to be sick of the status quo. Go Bernie!!

      Of course, MA was a virtual tie. And Bernie didn’t have his spouse breaking election laws by giving speeches on the polling place steps (in AA precincts) on election day. I find MA is perplexing. Supposedly a dark blue state but it keeps electing Repub governors. And Elizabeth Warren only beat Scott Brown by 10 points — Scott ‘Wall St Whore’ Brown.

      1. Tony S

        The Democrats ran Martha Coakley, who is nothing more than a party apparatchik, against Scott Brown. She just acted like the election was hers and ran her Seinfeld campaign about nothing. The result was predictable, in retrospect. So the Dems… ran her AGAIN, this time for the governor’s seat. And shockingly she lost AGAIN! What an unfortunate coincidence!

        The same thing happened in Maryland with Anthony Brown. Who, predictably, is now running for Congess.

        The Dem insiders really, really don’t care whether they win or lose. It’s all about keeping control of their increasingly irrelevant political organization. Hillary is Martha Coakley at a national level.

            1. NotTimothyGeithner

              And Christ is currently running as a Democrat for Congress. He’s only Democrat because rumors forced him out of the GOP.

              Christ was pursued as a candidate by DWS.

          1. zygmuntFRAUDbernier

            And from the same Huffington Post article, we learn that Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has called for Grayson to suspend his campaign against Murphy: “because he believes the congressman’s alleged missteps show that he is unfit to be in Congress.” Previous paragraph: “The House Committee on Ethics is investigating whether Grayson has misused his congressional perch etc.” ; it’s the first I hear of an ethics investigation of Grayson.

    3. Sam Adams

      Massachusetts is complacently satisfied with the status quo: university administrators, tenured faculty, pharma and healthcare execs, military and security contractors all are doing well under the current system. Revolution scares the self-satisfied. Why would they want to overturn the applecart?
      It’s also an explaination why media talking heads ignore Sanders: his policies hurt them in thier lifestyle.

    4. NotTimothyGeithner

      Massachusetts is a reactionary. Mittens was the governor after all. Spare me that evolved positions stuff. Mittens has held elected office once, and it was in Massachusetts.

    5. wbgonne

      Massachusetts is one of the power centers for the Democratic lite and it is also practically a second home for the Clintons. The entire MA Democratic machine, including Walsh’s Boston operation, was all-in for Clinton. And while the Boston African American churches don’t rival the Southern churches for pulpit-power, the Boston preachers do have significant influence in their communities. In a Democratic primary, that kind of power matters. As for the demographic breakdown, I still haven’t seen it (maybe someone has a link), so this is just speculation but … Clinton did extremely well in Boston and its suburbs, an area which is overwhelmingly comprised of either African Americans or rich people, and both groups favor Clinton. And, one last point, Warren not endorsing Sanders hurt a lot.

      The big news is Sanders’ economic populism catching on in the Plains. If that happens in the Midwest, and especially CA, progressives may find a way around the Democratic power blockade that is based in MA and DC.

        1. wbgonne

          Thanks for the link. The geographical breakdown is conistent with my analysis. I still haven’t seen any numbers on race or income and maybe we won’t know that.

        2. Brooklin Bridge

          Actually, the Hillary section of the map is almost a study in affluent areas of Massachusetts. The exceptions, such as Lawrence, are indeed areas with high numbers of AA or Hispanics. Too bad HuffPo didn’t use dollar signs for cross hatching the Clintonistas, it would have been perfectly accurate.

        1. wbgonne

          Yup. Provincetown big for Clinton. The rest of Cape Cod for Sanders or basically tied. All the rich areas went for Clinton.

          1. Brooklin Bridge

            Falmouth and Woods Hole went for Clinton big time. Makes sense. Although once just small villages with a tiny cohort of very rich folks, they ooze money now (a slow shift over the last 50-60 years).

            Surprising to me, however, is Martha’s Vineyard, Nantucket,and even the Elizabeth Islands (Gosnold about 10 votes total) that went for Sanders. The Vineyard has always been a little tricky to break down, there is a strong liberal atmosphere that has been stubborn to resist wave after wave of big money, but to be that consistent is surprising. If the Vineyard has mainly millionaires, Nantucket has mainly billionaires yet it too went for Sanders.

            I suppose once you get to a certain economic point, beyond any and all worry about your next meal, your children’s next meal, your grandchildren’s next meal, and so on for multiple generations, you break through to the other side of class distinctions and have the “freedom” to vote any way you want.

            And to head off comments that only the year round residents can vote, the year round residents are pretty damn well off on both MV and Nantucket.

            1. wbgonne

              My wife is from Nantucket and some family still live there. Her family was middle class and her father was a tradesman. A lot of the Nantucket long-timers are middle class though some have struck it rich through real estate or construction for the wealthy. As you say, the new people are obscenely wealthy: think homes with 11 bathrooms. Your point about the ultra-rich is interesting: it is not inconceivable that rich people, especially the ultra-rich, could vote for a more equitable society, secure in the belief that they’ll do fine no matter what, which is almost certainly true. But greed seems to addle the mind like drug-addiction and more is never enough. Stiil, it has happened before in America (FDR, e.g.) and it could happen again as the reaction against neoliberalism gathers strength and the de-glorification of wealth takes hold.

              Better rich people, please!

              1. Brooklin Bridge

                Well, I could easily be wrong about just how well off the year round residents are or what their attitudes are regardless of potential wealth, but from what I’ve understood, anyone who owns any property at all over there, say a door knob, is at least potentially wealthy. Nantucket is literally insane with money.

                I do think the going on through to the other side phenomenon is real; the one raking in the dough may still be subject to greed, but his offspring less so and so on. Oddly, I think the phenomenon switches back again after a couple of generations depending on I don’t know what, but perhaps on what the country at large is going through or on the gradual necessity for money or fear of being without raising its head.

              2. Carla

                Vs. the 30s, I think our rich people are just not sufficiently scared. Pretty sure rich people were not “better” during the Depression, just more frightened (and by extension, therefore, smarter). And they stayed frightened and “smarter” for several decades.

              1. petal

                Yes. This is it. Grew up in a resort town. There were full-timers and summer people. The rich folks that own places on the Vineyard are registered in other states. The Vineyard house is just for summer. It’s the “poors” that are there year-round. I remember reading in the Globe a while back about a housing crunch for working-class people on the islands.

                1. bob

                  I saw, when I was on Nantucket, how the other 90% live. there was one small old house, inland, that was home to over 20 basically migrant workers. Domestic slaves.

                  The ferry was the best. There was the “fast ferry” which was about an hour, and the “refugee boat”- the one that brought the clean-up help in at night, and took them out in the morning. over 3 hours, if I am rembering correctly. Most on the boat were sleeping.

                  I also attended a “lobster bake” to benefit- I shit you not, the boys and girls club of nantuket. How about I donate my lobster? Just one? Not even that is allowed?

                  I had to take the fast ferry out. Not nearly fast enough. The real “owners” of the island prefer gulfsteams. Spent a few hours at “the beach” there and they were literally taking off over our heads every 2 minutes.

                  So peaceful…

      1. sleepy

        I think there were some other factors at play tool. In Nebraska, opposition to the keystone pipeline was fierce and–somewhat–bipartisan. Imho this helped Sanders.

        In Kansas, I would say to some extent that there is very little left of a democratic establishment in any effective sense, certainly not on the order of states such as MA. This of course benefitted Sanders as well, and to some extent the same context might explain NE as well.

    6. flora

      Bernie is running a 50 state campaign. The DNC would rather just ignore the R midwestern states, not campaign here, not listen to the voters here, forget flyover country – except to ask for money. Bernie ran some great TV ads and mailed out good flyers. I got nothing from Hillary’s campaign. For the past many years I get nothing from DNC central. Message: they don’t care a fig about my vote.
      Bernie got his message and platform out, and asked for my vote.

    7. eldorado

      One data point about Oklahoma. For the first time, Independents were allowed to vote in the Democratic primary. The Republican primary remains closed.

    8. susan the other

      i know – OK, KS and NE… I’m still smiling about it; about MA tho, i do think that one should be redone.

    9. lyman alpha blob

      Clinton’s demographic is east coast Wellesley type college educated higher income corporate management people who identify as Democrats due to identity politics. Clinton took Boston and environs and that’s where a lot of those type of people live.

      They’ll be retiring soon and won’t vote for Bernie because it might hurt their 401ks. They could be forced to sell a vacation home to compensate. The horror…

    10. TomD

      I learned an interesting thing this election cycle from fivethirtyeight. Republican voters in Iowa are more conservative than Republican voters in South Carolina. On face this doesn’t make sense because South Carolina is much more conservative overall, shouldn’t the more conservative party reflect that?

      Well it turns out in a state where one party is much more powerful (Repubs in SC or Dems in MA), it draws in *all* the moderate voters because that’s how they get a voice in state politics. This pushes the opposition party into more extreme ideology, since they’re lacking those moderates. Thus we have a more conservative Democratic party in MA than is expected from the over all state politics, and more liberal Democrats in states like Kansas and Nebraska than might be expected.

      However, this doesn’t explain at all the Democratic party in the southern states where Bernie got creamed.

    11. TomD

      I wrote a rather long post about how a party that dominates a state draws in the moderates and the opposite party tends to become more extreme as a result, but it was eaten.

    12. curlydan

      I can speak for Kansas in noting that the Democrats have been decimated in the state, partly thanks to the ineptitude of the state Democratic Party (see the link below for how bad it’s been). This ineptitude has, I think, so roiled and frustrated Kansas Democrats that many have had it with any establishment Democrat.

      The ineptitude also was reflected in the caucus yesterday. I waited 2.5 hours in line to go in and vote by signing my name to a yellow legal pad with “BERNIE” scribbled on top. This occurred because the facility, an indoor inflatable dome, had reached its capacity and people needed to vote then leave to get others in.

      After I voted, I then had to wait 30 minutes to get out because it’s an inflatable dome, and there’s only one entrance/exit! Ironically, if Thomas Frank still lived in Kansas where he grew up, he would have been voting and the same location.

      I was still very surprised about the margin of victory for Bernie.

      In terms of what the Sanders campaign can learn from this: A Bernie supporter was going through the line, asking each participant if he/she was voting for Bernie, then getting his/her name. She came to me, and I asked “Why?” I thought it was a little creepy. She said they are doing forecasting based on the results. So I relented and gave her my name. I guess if the campaign can get the supporters’ names and by subtraction get the Clinton supporters’ names, then they can do statistical profiling about why we’re voting for Sanders.

      pitch.com/kansascity/kansas-democrats-are-seeing-red-but-not-for-the-reasons-youd-expect/Content?oid=5471186

    13. Massinissa

      So when did Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska become “hotbeds of socialism?”

      Since a hundred years ago. They went Right more recently, when they realized the Dems had betrayed their values. They were states that supported leftists like William Jennings Bryan.

      Try reading ‘Whats the Matter with Kansas?’ to learn how this shift occurred.

  10. Pat

    I think that Booker is the true heir to Bill Clinton, not Obama or Hillary. All three have the ‘flexible’ ethics and the resumes full of holes that can be ignored, Obama does have some of the charismatic sales chops especially as a speaker, but Booker loves the hustle as much as Bill ever did. He will glad hand, take the selfies, shake the hands and make everyone he meets in the line feel like they had a connection. And because of that people just will NOT believe that he sold out Newark left, right and center, and will happily do the same to them. And that is exactly why Hillary Clinton will not go there. Once in office besides doing the immediate favors to her multitude of important donors, the next few years will be about setting up the post Presidential employment of Hillary Clinton through a faux legacy thing. The last thing she wants is a charismatic VP out in public happily setting up his election campaign.

    That said, Booker is probably exactly who should be Clinton’s nominee. He would bring the excitement that she just can’t. He is a hundred times the campaigner she is, who understands that today a campaign is not about ideas it is about ‘selling’ the candidate. But from everything I’ve seen no one is going to tell Hillary that.

    1. Carolinian

      Here’s the full quote

      He has a nasty gift for dragging everyone down to his own vulgar level. Presidential campaigns should not be about belittling people’s appearances or bragging about your own appendages. Whatever his flaws, President Obama has reinforced our desire for class in presidents.

      That’s not exactly an endorsement of Obama. Up column she says

      Trump was right about Romney. When you lose a race that you should have won by being an inept phony, you can’t call this year’s front-runner an inept phony.

      I thought this was an excellent article on Trump from Dowd who knows him. She’s saying what seems apparent from a distance: that Trump is making it up as he goes along and his only real ideology is a desire to make himself president. Therefore one shouldn’t assume that what he says in a Republican primary has very much to do with what he might say or do later. For all the hysteria about fascism etc Trump is very different from intensely political figures like Hitler and Mussolini and is practicing a kind of anti-politics. For many Americans, who aren’t particularly ideological themselves, this turns out to be a big hit.

      1. Brindle

        Yes, an interesting piece from MoDo. I gave up on reading her columns years ago—too much like High School gossip, not much substance. You get the sense that MoDo would vote for Trump over Hillary in the general.

        1. Carolinian

          Or has German Shepherds. Trump doesn’t strike me as the animal lover type.

          As for diet, in the NYT profile he was wolfing down shrimp. High energy.

      2. bob

        Trump wants to be prez? I’d challenge that any day of the week. He wants the title, no doubt, but the actualy office, and responsibility? Haha.

        Le show did a great skit on Trump. He decided it was way too cold in DC in January for him to attend his own inauguration, instead proposing that it take place at one of his warmer resorts.

      1. optimader

        There is so much not classy, it would become a serial list of shame. A “journalist” who thinks speaking in political bromide rhetoric is classy is a huge part of our problem.
        I’ll take the New Yark equivalent of pissed off Tuna Boat captain vernacular from a reasonably behaved person vs teh political blather equivalent of smooth jazz from a sociopath

        1. optimader

          Not to imply Trump would prove to be “reasonably behaved”. Trump is this elections cycle equivalent of Hope and Change when it comes to revealing any substance. But I guess that’s part of his strategy that he is successful with so far, so I cant really blame him for that .

        2. NotTimothyGeithner

          Were Obama and his Tuesdays with Massacre crew on their best Emily Post? Inquiring minds need to know.

  11. Ulysses

    Perfect distillation of neoliberal attitudes towards humanity:

    “Ventilla also wanted students to focus on developing skills that would be useful in the workplace of the future, rather than forcing them to acquire knowledge deemed important by historical precedent.”

    Neoliberals have no respect for human culture that can’t be obviously “monetized.” We are never to aspire to being anything other than cogs, in the kleptocrats’ wealth extraction machines.

    1. Tony S

      So they’ll get their STEM degrees and find themselves undercut by H1-B visa slaves guest workers.

      I am less surprised by the support for Sanders and Trump out there every day. And by the elites’ cluelessness about it.

      1. NotTimothyGeithner

        They aren’t completely clueless. Hillary is being run for a reason. No other Democrat would have the celebrity shield Hillary has. Any Democrat with Hillary’s views or record would be laughed off the stage.

    2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      You look at some people, with multiple degrees, and settle into life, as, for example, the wife of a hedge fund billionaire, and you say to yourself, ‘Hey, maybe more “education” is not the answer.’

  12. Dino Reno

    Interesting to see Trump’s first real flipflop comes on the subject torture and the threat of a military coup which he obviously took seriously. Sad to see him taking the official position of torturing and murdering family members while all the while denying it because it violates international law. Just shows you who is really in charge in case there where any doubts.

    1. abynormal

      about Trumps PR changes: “Michael Glassner who previously served as National Political Director, will now serve as Deputy Campaign Manager; Stuart Jolly who previously served as Regional Political Director in the Southeast Region is being promoted to National Field Director; Stephanie Milligan who has served as State Director to the campaign in both Arkansas and Oklahoma will now serve as Midwest Regional Political Director; and Mike Rubino who has overseen the campaign’s efforts in Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia is being promoted to Northeast Political Director.”

      “S. Jolly was Director of TeamCFA; which focuses on the areas of free-market economics, school choice and charter school legislative issues and innovative answers.”

      innovative answers…WhY? “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.”~Thomas Pynchon

    2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      “A tactical concession, in order to secure the ultimate victory, the throne.”

      Its a spin that can be used by all candidates.

  13. Eureka Springs

    Interesting:

    Number of mentions in this post/thread so far today.

    Clinton – 9
    Trump – 22
    Sanders 19

    Health – 4
    Military – 1
    Econ – 13 (half of which are part of the blog heading and categories)
    People- 11
    Law – 2
    Policy – 2 (in blog headings only)

    1. fresno dan

      Eureka Springs
      March 6, 2016 at 10:37 am

      Interesting research
      As they say in Hollywood, no publicity is bad publicity

      And one other thing comes to mind. It was said that Trump was a stalking horse for Hillary. I’m thinking he actually is a stalking horse for Cruz…..(Cruz! at least he’s no Hitler/Trump!!!)

      1. Antifa

        Note that Ted Cruz, like his father Rafael, is a Dominionist Christian. In their theology, the overarching goal is to take over the whole world by converting every living human to Christianity, thus ushering in the thousand year reign of righteousness that will bring Jesus back.

        Their tactical methodology is to take over the Seven Mountains of society, appointing a “King” to rule over each of these arenas of society, each anointed King seeing to it that all things within their particular Kingdom is godly and just, pious and obedient to inerrant Scripture. The Seven Mountains are Business, Government, Media, Arts & Entertainment, Education, Family, and Religion.

        Ted Cruz has been “anointed” with Crisco or olive oil or some such to be the King of Government. Right now Ted and Rafael may be looking at the delegate count and wondering exactly how God’s mysterious ways will land King Cruz in the White House next January, but they both know in their heart of hearts that His will shall prevail. Or prevail in 2024.Or maybe Ted can be Trump’s VP, but then Trump gets hit by lightning out on the golf course. That would be a genuinely mysterious way to become President King.

        Yes, these people are dead serious about this stuff.

  14. abynormal

    Hilary Clinton recently tweeted the following.

    Companies have to start treating workers like assets to be invested in, not costs to be cut.

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) March 4, 2016

    HT Ian Welsh: “The core of any decent system of ethics, and thus of any political and economic order, is Kant’s maxim that people are ends, not means. When you forget that, you inevitably descend into monstrosity.” http://www.ianwelsh.net/pure-utilitarianism-and-capitalism/

      1. Antifa

        Does anyone know which companies are going to be involved in cleaning up after the Biblical Flood that’s coming when the Mosul Dam breaks?

        My bookie won’t take the bet at any odds, so I have to go to the NYSE.

  15. Brindle

    re: This is Trump Country…NYT

    The article describes the effects of neoliberalism on the residents of counties that voted strongly for Trump—of course without using the term. It has a kind of elitist vibe of an anthropologist visiting a remote undiscovered tribe.

    —They have little in common but economic hardship, a sense of longing for the better times they once had and an unshakable belief that a President Trump might be the answer to their troubles. —

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      An anthropologist visiting a remote undiscovered tribe.

      “The act of studying’ implies an inherent power hierarchy.

      You don’t see a remote tribe study the mating habits of university professors.

      You do see university professors study the mating habits of remote tribes.

      Basically, you want to be the one who is doing the study.

      “I study you, 24 hours, 7 days. I know everything about you.”

      That’s scary, isn’t it?

      Yet, that’s the open threat we declare to every living being on this planet.

      “We are going to study you.”

      Of course, we deem ourselves saints. Our purpose noble.

      “Why do you flit away, little butterflies, whenever I hike along the trail?”

      You’re dangerous, that’s why.

      You come to study us.

      1. LifelongLib

        I ask the birds and the butterflies I meet not to fly away, because I’m just passing through, with no designs upon them. They fly away anyhow.

  16. abynormal

    see yall round…gotta go hold bed pans and puke bags. on a lighter note: The Science of Being in the Flow http://upliftconnect.com/being-in-the-flow/

    “It is how we choose what we do, and how we approach it, that will determine whether the sum of our days adds up to a formless blur, or to something resembling a work of art.”
    ~Csikszentmihalyi, Finding Flow: The Psychology Of Engagement With Everyday Life
    oTay :/

  17. Harry

    Why is a college degree worth less if you are poor?

    Unintentional irony?

    Question in my mind is whether a poor persons degree is worth more than it costs? After all the rent seekers have taken their cut I doubt it.

    But of course the rich don’t need no stinking degree to leave the business to their sons and daughters. Or rather, the managerial classes can tell “intrinsic talent” at a glance. It looks like their kids.

    1. optimader

      Why is a college degree worth less if you are poor?

      Is it? Largely dependent on what the degree is in I’d say.

      1. Gaianne

        “Why is a college degree worth less if you are poor?”

        Because hiring still depends on your insider connections.

        –Gaianne

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          Unless you’ve inherited some inequality from your parents – for example, beautiful hair or long, skinny legs genes, etc.

          A tall, handsome poor kid with a college degree is as good, if not better than a short, ugly middle class kid with a college degree.

        2. optimader

          Because hiring still depends on your insider connections.
          Too much of a generalization.
          YES if you have a degree from a small libeal arts college “with a strong emphasis in dance” and your objective is a position in an investment banking firm to achieve a comfortable level of financial independence in ~2-1/2 years.

          NO, at least by my direct observation, if one has a freshly minted degree in say Nursing (and pass the Board Exam), Commuter Science or for that matter Commercial Art, DigitalSFX (and possess a student portfolio that suggests talent) etc etc…

          The big discriminators I perceive are:
          1.) age(as in older) combined with a commodity skill where one is perceived by an employer to be competing w/ younger people;
          2.) a degree that has limited utility in the market where one lives. (eg: Art History majors will probably have in discipline employment challenges away from larger urban centers. Likewise relative affluence wont help the oceanographer finding employment in Kansas City, connections or not.)

          1. TomD

            It’s comforting to think of things this way, “pick your majors better idiots.” But I believe the actual data contradicts you. IE, Philosophy majors make more money than STEM majors. Lots of lots jobs don’t require any specific knowledge that would be learned by in a college degree, they just want to see a 4 year degree as proof the applicant isn’t a complete moron.

            1. optimader

              It’s comforting to think of things this way, “pick your majors better idiots.” I think a decent Philosophy Major would reject that as a Straw man argument.

              I believe the actual data contradicts you. IE, Philosophy majors make more money than STEM majors
              Reread what I wrote. Did I even mention Philosophy Majors, or for that matter, the giant bucket referred to as STEM degrees?

              As long as you bring it up, the term STEM degrees encompasses a very VERY broad range of degrees and earning potentials.

              Consequently, debating the merits of the broad range of degrees called STEM degrees w/ regard to education return on investment (ROI) vs Philosophy degree ROI seems a questionable use of time and bandwidth.

              Lots of lots jobs don’t require any specific knowledge that would be learned by in a college degree,
              A News Flash from the Telegraph line! Now pass over that dog eared C++ manual.

              they just want to see a 4 year degree as proof the applicant isn’t a complete moron.
              Again overgeneralized. It may be the case that some job applicants are hired outside of their direct degree discipline (actually Philosophy majors come to mind) because it’s hoped they have assimilated some valuable intellectual processing and communication skills that will allow them to be adequate employer assets (as HRC like to say). It is certainly the case that many engineers migrate into other professions.

              As well there are obviously professions that require educations more specific than being a device to establish that said applicant is not a “moron”

              I leave you with
              http://www.payscale.com/2008-best-colleges/degrees.asp

    2. Yves Smith

      It may be too late for most to learn the class signals.

      I knew a people in my day at Harvard who figured out how to make make the class shift while in college (as in by the time they were seniors, you would have though they’d come from private schools). Although the admissions office also might have been adept at picking the members of the lower orders who were savvy or socially skilled enough to know that a big part of the opportunity was learning class and power markers.

      1. Paul Tioxon

        So it was my brite red Converse Chuck high top sneakers and Led Zeppelin fallen angel T-Shirt that shot me down with that stunning babe that lived with her parents in a Manhattan Coop who looked like the cover of the Fall NYT Style Magazine. I guess we just didn’t have the right shoe store in Philly when I went to college. Too bad, her parents would have had brains and beauty in the family if she settled for me to be the father of her children.

        1. optimader

          Maybe it was something else?
          Don’t those babes of entitlement and privilege in NY go for the bad boys??? Maybe if you only had taken up the electric guitar and achieved some modest level of expertise???? Another page from the annals of lost opportunity :o/..

      2. optimader

        I have two friends, both black female engineers by education, from veeery modest backgrounds (one a foster home kid from OK and the other from a tough ‘hood in Chicago).
        They both persisted though challenging educations, and came out the other end well educated and speaking formal King’s English.
        Both excellently played every card of their Trifecta corporate minority status in the Petrochem Industry (Female/Black/ChemE & EE grads).

  18. Light a Candle

    A very engaging local Kansas story about Bernie’s win. The article is upbeat, even-handed and a real contrast to the MSM proclamations that Hilary is the chosen one and give up now.

    The two short videos are very encouraging too, Bernie’s supporters are so enthusiastic about his candidacy.

    And a higher Democrat turnout than in 2008!

    1. Brooklin Bridge

      Money quote from the article: The race was a classic confrontation between heart and head.
      And this time, heart won.[…]

      Sorry, but even handed? More like smooth feint praise bias. The usual meme that Sander’s supporters are heads in the sky. Ignoring that Single Payer would be vastly more economical and practical (as evidenced by countries in Europe and Canada) than funneling money into the maw of private insurance companies.

      As one of the commenters to the article said, “How is supporting Hillary using your head? More Wall Street manufactured wars and crypto fascist pandering — Go Bernie!”

  19. flora

    re: Stop laughing, Democrats! – Salon

    Oh brother. Another “Hillary is inevitable and you must vote for her. After she’s elected she might get around to addressing your issues. But first you’ll have to work harder.” That’s been the DNC game for the past 20+ years. “Vote for us now, we’ll look at your issues later.” See Lucy and the football. I won’t vote for Hillary or any Third Way corporate Dem again.

    1. Strangely Enough

      That soothing on-hold voice: “due to high volume, your wait for social justice is approximately thirty years.”

      1. OIFVet

        They always lie about wait times, particularly when it comes to providing you the services and benefits you already paid for.

      2. Carolinian

        Plus they make you listen to that music. In Hillary’s case it will be Fleetwood Mac.

        1. optimader

          In Hillary’s case it will be Fleetwood Mac
          mmmmm… I’ll go with:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ppz-cwLeqo
          Fugees – Killing Me Softly (Radio Edit) HQ
          They were able to take an annoying song and make it exquisitely annoying!

          If only this technology were available when they were trying to flush out Manuel Noriega after his “asset” value was fully depreciated!

    2. Brooklin Bridge

      How can I be for Hillary, let me count the ways to spin it. This is a bait and switch article about hard core criticism of the Democratic Party being switched over as creds for the argument that Hillary is the only realistic choice.

      A novel approach to spin. Author goes for the, I’m tough, really tough, on Democrats but still for the Hill. A tricky balance of smash the dishes and raise Hillary’s arm, partly visible in one of the money quotes, Bernie Sanders was never the solution, and Hillary Clinton, much as she has done to earn the ire and mistrust of critics on the left, was never the problem.

      The comment section is good, they catch a lot of his rhetorical tricks.

      1. cwaltz

        My favorite part was when he compares Hillary to week old Nestea and Trump to a foul smelling mystery drink and insists that people have to choose one or the other.

        Uh I don’t know, I think I’ll go with a glass of filtered water instead.

        1. Brooklin Bridge

          :-) . “mystery drink…that might be diesel fuel or lawn chemicals or sorority-house vomit,…”

          Water please!

            1. cwaltz

              That’s why I specified filter water. When our feckless leadership gave the states money for shovel ready jobs back in 2008 perhaps there should have been some direction (less money for privatizing your schools more money for things like you water system) Silly me! There I go again thinking that people who make six figures for their job should actually be required to DO THEIR JOB, instead of just handing out bags of cash.

      2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        What is interesting is that there are Republicans who are thinking of voting for Hillary in November.

        We need to save them as well, if possible.

        “Stick with Trump.”

  20. DakotabornKansan

    Kansas Democratic Caucus

    About 39,000 voters participated in the Kansas caucus yesterday. Sanders won by slightly more than a 2-1 ratio, with 26,450 votes to Clinton’s 12,593. Sanders will get 23 national convention delegates to Clinton’s 10.

    At the caucus I attended, there were many new caucus participants and many, like myself, who switched from independent (or Republican) to Democrat in order to vote for Bernie. The start of the caucus was delayed because there were so many in this line to register as Democrats. The people I talked to were voting for Bernie for many different reasons. For them, Bernie resonates in Kansas, “the burned-over district of conservatism.”

    Kansas Democrats are an irrelevant, endangered species, assisted by the late chairman of the Kansas Democratic Party, who suggested that Kansas Democrats needed to think more like Republicans to win.

    Many Democrats registered as Republicans to vote to save moderate Republicans (also an endangered species) from its party extremists. Voting Democrat in Brownbackistan is Albert Einstein’s definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    “I wonder how many of our ancestors would recognize the vindictive place that Brownback rules over today, where the Chamber of Commerce trumps the actual electorate and the pauperized arts commissioners have taken to selling special license plates to raise a few dollars. The ideology that’s on top today isn’t the creed of my Kansas; it’s the philosophy of those who prey upon Kansans.” – Thomas Frank, “Letter from Brownbackistan,” Harper’s (July 2012)

    Democrats in Kansas are used to not winning. That may be one reason why Kansas Democrats voted for Bernie.
    .

    1. flora

      Recent Fort Hays State University poll of KS voters in this GOP state found the approval rating for Obama is 34%, approval rating for GOP dominated state lege is 25%, approval rating for Gov. Brownback is 21%. 21%! Kansan’s don’t like him or the lege.

      Dems can win in this state if they stop listening to the DNC and start listening to Kansans.

      1. flora

        adding: until 1994 there were many local, state, and national Dems elected in Kansas. So what happening in 1994? NAFTA. (Lots of union jobs in Kansas back then in aircraft manufacturing – Boeing, e.g.) Clinton’s first term wiped out a lot of elected Kansas Dems; lost 2 congressional seats, lost legislative seats.
        DNC is still pushing bad trade deals.

    2. katiebird

      That sounds similar to my experience at the caucus in JoCo. … I don’t like caucuses but this was pretty well run for an even that attracted 1499 attendees (however we were down to 1432 by the time votes were counted –amazingly some people just couldn’t stay the whole 4+ hours!)

      It was an amazing experience. There were so many Bernie supporters, 944, they moved us to a field so we could be counted (3times!) in lines of 10. (I filmed a minute or so of it because it was so unreal)

        1. katiebird

          Are you on Facebook? I made them public, so maybe this will work (crossing fingers) They are not professional at all!!

          Try this Kansas Democratic Caucus

          If that works, there might (I’ve never made anything public before) be 2 videos at the top of the list. One from inside the auditorium and the other when we went into the field to be counted.

        2. Katiebird

          Opps! I got caged. If you are on Facebook search on #KansasDemocraticCaucus — I posted 2 videos. I made them public for today. Which I hope works.

          Otherwise … I don’t know….. Is there a way to post videos here?

  21. voteforno6

    I wonder if the people pushing for Clinton really understand what her election would mean. They’ll expend enormous amounts of energy defending her against every scandal, both real and imagined, and when they’re not doing that, they’ll have to defend her against the left wing, who’ll attack her for every move to the right that she’ll make. The Democratic Party will have no larger purpose than defending Clinton. They’ll do it, too – the Clintons have bought a lot of party loyalty over the years.

    In my apocalyptic / optimistic view, that is the best case scenario. Worst case scenario (for the Democratic Party, at least), what happens if, while this is happening, another financial crisis hits? The Democratic Party will get eaten alive. Those mobs with the pitchforks and torches will be looking for someone to hang in the town square, and any politician who’s perceived as a tool of Wall Street will be the first target.

    1. andyb

      Clinton’s election will further destroy what’s left of the middle class, especially if Obama’s treasonous trade policies are implemented; all to the further betterment of the 1% and the Rothschild cabal. That’s why the Fed’s hail Mary policies to prevent the coming crash are so important. The market casino must be goosed on a regular basis despite all the true economic signs that we are entering what will be known as the Greatest Repression….together with a world war to provide the most convenient of distractions. Maintain the DJIA close to current levels until the election and Hillary wins. If the market crashes prior, she’s toast; it’s that simple.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        Unless ‘their’ Manchurian candidate gets nominated by the Republican party, then, they have a choice of crashing the market to ushering a new Messiah.

        That was the play from 2008.

  22. fledermaus

    “[G]lobally we have Facebook marked down as providing some $18 billion of economic value, that should then translate into perhaps $36 billion of consumer surplus which is the true measure of how we’ll we’re doing as humans.”

    Well if productivity is too low, we must be measuring it wrong. Economics in a nutshell, don’t like the result, change the measurement.

    “And yet that’s obviously ridiculous: something that 1 billion people do for an average 20 minutes a day simply cannot be valued at such a low number. ”

    5 billion people spend 5-10 minutes a day on the toilet, let’s count that as well.

    1. TomD

      I think it’s fair to say the plumbing industry provides many times the value of Facebook despite the disparity in daily time use.

  23. Blurtman

    Errrr……..

    ETHNIC CONSCIOUSNESS
    European-Americans are the descendants of indigenous people of Europe. They are often identified on government forms as Caucasian or ‘white’. We believe that European-American identity is under constant attack by members of American institutions such as the state, education, culture and even churches. We reject racial supremacism, and believe all the world’s peoples should embrace and celebrate their sacred heritage and identities.

    ETHNOPLURALISM
    According to metapedia.org, ethnopluralists assert the principle of “right to difference”, even defending the identities of immigrants, and argue for regional ethnic or racial separatism (the plurality of ethno-identities). It is therefore multiculturalism in the sense of multiple cultures or ethnicities existing in a country, but seperated in their own enclaves, to safeguard those differences.

    http://www.tradworker.org

    Video footage that has been circulated on social media shows people in Traditionalist Worker Party t-shirts pushing people and taking their protest signs.

    Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said in an email that the campaign does not comment on security matters.

    The Traditionalist Worker Party did not respond to requests for comment.

    Matthew Heimbach, the group’s chairman, wrote in a blog on the website of the Traditionalist Youth Network that the protesters, including those from Black Lives Matter, were the aggressors.

    He also tweeted, ‘Its (sic) funny how BLM comes to a Trump event to fight, starts the fight and then loses the fight but plays big victims to the media.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3479115/Marine-discharged-getting-caught-camera-harassing-black-woman-Trump-rally.html

  24. Brindle

    Hate it when Trump is right:
    —David Brooks, of the New York Times, is closing in on being the dumbest of them all. He doesn’t have a clue.— Trump tweet.

  25. susan the other

    just a comment about the Simon Wren-Lewis link. talking about self imposed rocks and hard places. The problem (monetary problem) goes all the way back to Bretton woods and floating exchange rates which allowed the mandate of governments to focus on demand management economix to shift away from fiscal policy to monetary policy (given to their “independent” central banksters) while the gov. pretended to be holier than thou about deficits. The EU is the disaster du jour but we in the USA are in serious denial. We have created an iron cage for ourselves by allowing our Congress to refuse to operate with a national deficit. Just to keep the dollar strong. For what? NIRP? Very funny. What goes around comes around.

  26. JTMcPhee

    A whole lot of people are puzzled about the “popularity” of the Trump/Drumpf persona/avatar. Obama’s people did a great job of manufacturing consensus, using the tools of social psychology and ol’ Bernays’ other legacies. Reagan’s “popularity” seemed to me like Obama’s and now Trump’s: we humans have these what, “archetypes,” in our psyches, that we respond to. Reagan did a great job of the Wise Uncle impersonation, the Great Comforter, the Strong Silent Faux Cowboy Silver Screen War Hero. Obama? The Group Psyche just Wanted to Believe, and he offered, and too many of us swallowed, the “Hope and Change” stuff.

    Now comes il Douche’, with his skills at manipulation and effrontery. All of which plays to what parts of the psyches of so many of us? We who just do not care to live an “examined life,” who respond and react and occasionally reject, for reasons so many of us just don’t care to understand, or put into an evaluative an array with what our basic needs, physiological as well as maybe social and political-economic, may actually be. What makes us “feel something” that seems to align, or “make sense,” or carry us along?

    I’ve tried to look up research on stuff that might explain the whole political-identity “movement,” maybe beyond the identifiers and explications that come out of pundits and comments and what not. Maybe there are some clues as to what makes Trumpery a phenomenon of concern, and what might offer some guides to the Sanders advisers and campaign mavens, on how to direct whatever the energies and movements are toward something other than another opportunity for the ruling elites to fleece and loot the rest of what’s left. Maybe in a study I recalled from college, George Rude’s “The Crowd In The French Revolution,” https://books.google.com/books?id=82oOAQAAMAAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s, or something written in Sociologese, like this — http://home.ubalt.edu/tmitch/642/E%20articles/judge%20bono%20erez%20locke%20Core%20self%20eval%20and%20job%20sat%202005_files/hogg%20social%20id%20theory%20ldrship%20JPSP.pdf ?

    I’ve lost the links I found back in 2004-2008, about the manipulators and manipulations behind the “success” of the Obamanauts in those elections. But I recall some pretty cynical condescending stuff about how the folks that brought in the vote for O managed it. Maybe someone else recalls?

    Reagan’s persona touched a chord, an archetype or whatever it is. Bernie is strumming a different progression. How to push the transform to favor the Bernie music, rather than the TrumpTrumpTrump box chords that have set the crowd to stomping along?

  27. Lee

    Some Other Views on Why Some Black Voters Support Clintons, And Why Sanders Can’t Fix That
    (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/6/1496939/-Some-Other-Views-on-Why-Some-Black-Voters-Support-Clintons-And-Why-Sanders-Can-t-Fix-That)

    Interesting article and commentary. My own take:

    It would appear then that among Democrats the southern, more conservative, risk averse elements of the black electorate exercise considerable influence over the party as a whole and that this is enhanced by the scheduling of our primaries. I wonder what that means for a political revolution that, if Kos is correct, must begin with PoC.

    1. Massinissa

      Its mostly the old ones that are voting for Clinton. The younger ones are voting Bernie, but there arnt enough of them, and alot of them dont vote anyway.

      That may mean things will change eventually. Or it might not.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        It may change, as young voters get old.

        The young voters turned out for Bill Clinton in 1992. They were excited – that’s when they voted…when they were excited. Now, they are older or just old, and they vote, without having to get excited…or at least, they are not reported to be excited when they vote.

        Then, the young voters turned out for Obama in 2008. Again, they were excited. But give them some years, they will get older or old. And they too wonder why young voters only vote when they are excited.
        .

        1. TomD

          That’s not really the full story. Clinton got 43% of the 18-29 vote in 92, 53% in 96 (with a reduced Perot), Obama got 66% in 2008.

    2. Llewelyn Moss

      800 Ton Elephant In The Room…
      Hellery and Dem politicians successfully branded Bernie as a racist — which is total BS.

      – All the black Dems came out to endorse Hellery.
      – Rep Lewis saying “I never saw Sanders at MLK rallies.” Since then photos of Bernie at marches have been unearthed.
      – Then Hellery constantly battering Bernie for not having total and blind allegiance for Obama — daring to criticize. Thus, the coded message is he’s a Racist.

      It is hard to fight serial liars on an emotional, explosive issue like race.

      1. Massinissa

        “I never saw Sanders at MLK rallies”

        I never saw Clinton at those rallies either: I think she was too busy at Goldwater rallies.

  28. Foy

    Today I noted something interesting in my Google News feed that I check quickly each day down here in Oz. Out of all the world news items there were only two that had anything to do with the US election. One was saying how The Donald and Hillary hold big leads in Michigan. The other was an article headed: “TRUTH: Bernie Sanders Is Running a Reckless, Deeply Personal Campaign Against Hillary” from Blue Nation Review, whatever that is.

    Anyway I think I can glean from this which way Google is leaning and how they are presenting Sanders to the rest of the world…I guess it’s no surprise really…

    1. allan

      Sale Of Blue Nation Review Gives Hillary Clinton Camp Its Very Own Media Outlet

      Hillary Clinton ally David Brock is acquiring a media outlet, sources involved in the negotiation and sale of the site tell The Huffington Post.

      True Blue Media, a newly formed company incorporated by Brock, has acquired progressive news website Blue Nation Review. BNR’s previous owner, MOKO Social Media Limited, will retain a 20 percent stake in the new entity while Brock will hold the remaining 80 percent equity balance.
      The sale was finalized [in November, 2015].

      Peter Daou, digital media strategist for Clinton’s 2008 campaign, will serve as the new CEO of True Blue Media.

      There are those who would argue that `its very own’ ignores most of the `liberal’ MSM.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        I wonder if we will be grateful Hillary has all these ‘tools,’ if she is the only thing standing between the throne and the dear leader from New York.

        1. nippersmom

          If Clinton didn’t have all these “tools” (including election fraud in multiple states) we wouldn’t have to worry about being in a situation of her being the only thing standing between the “throne” and the dear leader from New York.

  29. ewmayer

    o Re. As Delong Says, Brookings Is Wrong On The Productivity Slowdown Forbes. “[G]lobally we have Facebook marked down as providing some $18 billion of economic value, that should then translate into perhaps $36 billion of consumer surplus which is the true measure of how we’ll we’re doing as humans. And yet that’s obviously ridiculous: something that 1 billion people do for an average 20 minutes a day simply cannot be valued at such a low number. ”

    “Obviously” is a critical-thinking-damping rhetorical ploy which is often a ‘tell’ that the writer is attempting to slide a thoroughly dubious proposition past readers. If those 20 minutes are detracting from necessary tasks, one can in fact justify a negative valuation for them.

    o Re. U.S. watchdog to probe Fed’s lax oversight of Wall Street — Sergeant Schulz to probe rumors of Stalag 13 prisoners digging tunnels under their barracks. There, fixed it for ya.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      Seems like Rocket Science with Facebook providing billions of economic value.

      Here is one question:

      How much economic value is there in voters voting?

      Am I providing some economic value when I vote?

      Should I be paid to do that?

      “Thank you for coming out and exercising your civic right to make democracy work. Here is $1,000 income guarantee, contingent upon your doing your duty as a citizen in a democracy.”

      Fiat money costs nothing to create and this is one way to increase voter turnout.

      Maybe 100% turn out.

      Or even 110%.

  30. Ray Phenicie

    The Clinton Email Bernie Sanders Should Bring Up in Sunday’s Debate

    Regarding this article: I see the editors at The Nation have been following my Facebook page.
    Here’s the trio of links I have been busy posting up on every tree, utility pole and wall. Two mention Columbia. The Clintons=the sleaze that just keeps on going and going and going.

    The Clinton System by Simon Head New York Review of Books This article is chock full of references. Just understand there is not a neo-liberal scheme to suppress workers and keep people oppressed that the Clinton’s will not back if one is willing to donate say, $500,000 or so to the Clinton Foundation. On that last bit keep reading. The Debates? Forget about them!

    As Colombian Oil Money Flowed To Clintons, State Department Took No Action To Prevent Labor Violations
    “The details of these financial dealings remain murky, but this much is clear: After millions of dollars were pledged by the oil company to the Clinton Foundation — supplemented by millions more from Giustra himself — Secretary Clinton abruptly changed her position on the controversial U.S.-Colombia trade pact. Having opposed the deal as a bad one for labor rights back when she was a presidential candidate in 2008, she now promoted it, calling it “strongly in the interests of both Colombia and the United States.” The change of heart by Clinton and other Democratic leaders enabled congressional passage of a Colombia trade deal that experts say delivered big benefits to foreign investors like Giustra.”
    Firms Paid Bill Clinton Millions As They Lobbied Hillary Clinton
    The discovery here is that again, issues before State Department when Mrs. Clinton was Secretary were favorably reviewed after speaking fees were made by the interested parties to her husband.

    1. Ray Phenicie

      Saved the best morsel for last:
      Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton’s State Department
      “Even by the standards of arms deals between the United States and Saudi Arabia, this one was enormous. A consortium of American defense contractors led by Boeing would deliver $29 billion worth of advanced fighter jets to the United States’ oil-rich ally in the Middle East.

      Israeli officials were agitated, reportedly complaining to the Obama administration that this substantial enhancement to Saudi air power risked disrupting the region’s fragile balance of power. The deal appeared to collide with the State Department’s documented concerns about the repressive policies of the Saudi royal family.

      But now, in late 2011, Hillary Clinton’s State Department was formally clearing the sale, asserting that it was in the national interest. At press conferences in Washington to announce the department’s approval, an assistant secretary of state, Andrew Shapiro, declared that the deal had been “a top priority” for Clinton personally. Shapiro, a longtime aide to Clinton since her Senate days, added that the “U.S. Air Force and U.S. Army have excellent relationships in Saudi Arabia.”

      These were not the only relationships bridging leaders of the two nations. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia contributed at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, the philanthropic enterprise she has overseen with her husband, former president Bill Clinton. Just two months before the deal was finalized, Boeing — the defense contractor that manufactures one of the fighter jets the Saudis were especially keen to acquire, the F-15 — contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to a company press release.”

      I am not sure why, but apparently these articles have not come before the Sanders campaign. They might be more provocative than “those Damn emails.” But let’s be certain we all understand what this means: if interested heads of state wanted the Clinton State Department to change a particular policy in regards to obtaining favorable treatment a speaking fee to the former President or a donation to the Clinton Foundation would pay huge dividends.

  31. marym

    According to #MaineCaucus Twitter – historic turnout, yuuuge for Sanders, MSM not covering all day. Polls close 8 pm

    1. Massinissa

      Sanders won. It really was record turnout.

      The one socialist state in the union came out in record numbers to support a socialist. Who woulda thunk it?

  32. For The Win

    A bit of Empire and boondoggle all in one: – Note the Indycar stickers on the simulation of the proposed VTOL killing machine — war with commercials for the vendors. A repeat of the F-35 feeding trough in the making. The simulation uses a “middle east” landscape, ie: Congressman, lets go kill some Muslims (hopefully unarmed women and children who won’t shoot the plane). Preferably up in mountains villages that have clean landing strips**, but are away from uncontrolled media access, wink wink.

    This pc. of porkfat will be even more impossible to operate in a real conflict than the V-22 which probably has killed more US Marines and allies than it has enemy. The simulation takes off and lands on an airstrip (equipped with hangars) which beggars if the DOD are thinking straight about the mission, but their vendors certainly know it’s design weakness.

    **The long wings make landing in any kind of ground cover a question, it will need lots of flat empty space. Then the (actually semi-ducted) fans are much closer to the ground than the V-22 and will direct air blasts for turning any debris in to deadly flying objects. (This is also why the VTOL F-35 with it’s ducted fan won’t be usable on anything but a extremely clean surface, preferably one with extremely cold, dense air — ie: not anywhere near the Middle East or islands of the South China Seas).

  33. ChrisFromGeorgias

    I know I’m probably just at the “bargaining” stage of grief here, but what if Sanders short of actually winning the nomination tried to pull some meaningful concessions out of Hillary by offering to suspend his campaign?

    I am thinking he could offer an early truce in exchange for Hillary not just talking about opposing the TPP, but actually campaigning against it and swaying House democrats to abandon it. Such a promise could be enforced by the threat of him resuming the campaign or withholding his endorsement unless she delivers actual votes (or pledges to vote NO) against the TPP.

    1. hunkerdown

      Taking heat off of her would only make sense if he were in fact sheepdogging and her coronation were not in fact in jeopardy.

      “Meaningful concessions” necessarily include matters Hillary and her Cabinet hopefuls have already campaigned against as “unrealistic”. The whole Democratic narrative of slowing or softening the decline, but never to aspire to stopping or reversing, would vanish into thin air if all of a sudden they CAN do this stuff now. Then why not before? You see how uncomfortable questions would necessarily be raised.

      Her talk means nothing and she knows this. She’s not working the Southern Strategy to govern from the left.

    2. Massinissa

      No way no how. We fight her to the convention or else she will never take us seriously, and she wont even if we do fight her to the convention. What makes you think you can bargain with Clinton? She is a slippery liar, she wont follow through on any promised concessions.

      1. ChrisFromGeorgia

        You’re right, I was likely doing an exercise in wishful thinking.

        At any rate TPP is likely dead until the lame duck session, at which point Hillary would no longer need Bernie’s endorsement and she would be free to betray him.

        And thinking about it more, even if the “optics” of flip-flopping so soon after the election were horrible, some House deems would likely do it to give Obama a going-away present.

        The better course is to keep fighting with everything we’ve got and make every Dem/Rethug who supports TPP pay dearly.

  34. Ernie

    Hillary repeated in the debate tonight that she would only release her paid Wall Street speech transcripts when all other presidential candidates did the same. Of course, Bernie repeated that he’s effectively already done so, since he has not given any Wall Street speeches. But isn’t the same also true of the Republican candidates as well? Have Trump, Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich actually given any paid speeches to Wall Street that they are refusing to release transcripts of? If not, is there any substance to Hillary’s continuing refusal? Why has there been no reporting or fact checking on this question? Inquiring minds want to know.

    1. sd

      A journalist should ask her directly which of the candidates is holding back from releasing transcripts of paid for speeches.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        Can’t depend on the media.

        Sanders should ask that himself…this is another fat pitch to swing at.

        I am beginning to think he’s giving this only 50% effort. He’s got Stephanie Kelton on his staff, and he’s still trying to explain how to fund his initiatives.

        When is he going to explain to the American people MMT? Perhaps he doesn’t subscribe to the theory?

    2. zygmuntFRAUDbernier

      If Hillary Clinton knows or knew that GOP candidates have given paid speeches to Goldan Sachs Group Inc., and she says or had said so, I might give it some consideration. Otherwise, for example if she doesn’t know, but doesn’t say she doesn’t know, there’s an appearance that she’s with-holding truths that could be inconvenient …

  35. sd

    Talk about vote buying. Wow. And I don’t mean in a good way. The Michigan primary is Tuesday. Funding is from Pritzker. Do the Clintons seriously not get that this looks like vote buying? I’m all for helping the people of Flint, but this is just in unbelievably bad taste two days before an election.

    Chelsea Clinton, Flint mayor announce new jobs program
    http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/03/06/chelsea-clinton-flint-mayor-announce-new-jobs-program/81403878/

    According to Weaver, the Flint WaterWorks initiative was developed in partnership with Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, whose team helped the mayor establish the public-private partnership program.

    The initiative is being started with a $500,000 contribution from J.B. and M.K. Pritzker to the Community Foundation of Greater Flint.

    1. grayslady

      This is blatant vote buying. Please repost in the March 7 Links when it becomes available.

    2. Skippy

      Ahhhh…. the other Mayor of Chicago is just engaging in some P2P Philanthropy with the Clinton Foundation or could it be assets going too zero…. whom knows – ??????

      Skippy…. anywho the needle is O.D. challenged for all concerned….

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