Links 11/5/16

In Chicago, the final wait for a Cubs win mixes joy and sorrow ESPN (Kokuanani)

Adobe is working on an audio app that lets you add words someone never said The Verge (Dan K)

Harvard cancels men’s soccer season over lewd rankings of women players Reuters (EM)

Electric Superhighways Can’t Come Soon Enough MIT Technology Review (J-LS)

More U.S. middle school students dying of suicide than car crashes Reuters (EM)

Why Morning People Thrive Atlantic (resilc). Can’t relate to being strongly tied into a particular type of schedule.

Health anxiety may increase risk of heart disease, research finds Guardian


Brexit ‘spinning out of control’, top bosses warn Independent (J-LS)

Will UK fashion survive Brexit? J-LS: “Not really so much about Brexit but about challenges companies face in trying to continue to manufacture goods in Britain.”

FTA warns against ‘premature’ UK exit from EU customs union Lloyds Loading List

Over 240 Migrants Drown Off Libyan Coast Due to Bad Weather The Wire (J-LS)

Turkey rocked by protests after high-profile arrests euronews (furzy)


Vladimir Putin grants Russian citizenship to Steven Seagal USA Today

Big Brother is Watching You Watch

Google’s Chrome Hackers Are About to Upend Your Idea of Web Security Wired. Bill B:

Greenberg’s shameless piece might as well be an ad for Google. Notice how he fails to mention that allegedly strong encryption will do nothing to prevent Google from selling your data to the highest bidder. Angwin shows us who the real journalist is: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking Pro Publica.

Three New Scandals Show How Pervasive and Dangerous Mass Surveillance is in the West, Vindicating Snowden Intercept (Chuck L)

The latest major cyber attack was so big it took a whole country offline Thai Visa (furzy)

Munich court to try Facebook’s Zuckerberg for inciting hatred DW


Early Voting Data Shows Who’s Turning Out Wall Street Journal

Clinton’s Detroit detour signals Dems’ worry Politico

The electoral map is definitely moving in Donald Trump’s direction Washington Post

What’s the Matter With the Polls? Politico (furzy)

This Election Will End. The Mental Damage May Not Bloomberg

Spiritual Blackout in America: Election 2016 Cornel West, Boston Globe (RR)

Fox News anchor apologizes for false report of ‘likely’ Clinton indictment USA Today (furzy)

Trump’s allies trip him up Politico

Former Christie Allies Guilty on All Counts in ‘Bridgegate’ Trial Wall Street Journal

Melania Trump was paid for modeling jobs before gaining work visa, records show Guardian

Ranked: ‘Trumps’ ’Round the World Atlantic (resilc)

Soda taxes may spread if voters check ballots in California, Colorado Reuters (EM)

NY fines China’s AgBank $215m over money laundering violations Financial Times

Gay Neoliberal Candidate in San Francisco Disproves Myths About LGBT Values Truthout

This Election Shines a New Light on Wall Street’s Bro Culture Bloomberg


At Standing Rock, women lead fight in face of Mace, arrests and strip searches Guardian

Obama Is Pathetic on Human Rights in North Dakota Reader Supported News (RR)

Texas insurer drops push to let homeowners forgo right to sue Texas Tribune. Margarita:

Not many (probably) remember that the largely successful effort to gut tort laws around the country started in mid-80s by insurance companies, after they lost money in the early 1980s real estate boom/bust. Not satisfied with the current tepid tort laws, they are at it again.

And Adam Levitin via e-mail:

I love that the arbitration is getting priced. This is a great example of what I’ve tried to teach in contracts for years: the law only looks at the one-off contract. But the insurer doesn’t give a shit about the individual contract. It’s all actuarial tables. And that creates a total mismatch. The consumer is a one time player, while the insurer is a repeat player. The consumer will rationally value the arbitration clause at basically nothing (there’s an optimism bias too–no one gets married thinking that they’re going to get divorced), because the odds of it being important are so low and there’s only one contract. But because the insurer is doing multiple contracts, even low odds matter. As a result consumers will never properly price for arbitration clauses and the like.

Notice, btw, that the CFPB cannot stop this because it doesn’t have authority over home insurance. That’s all state level regulation.

Rolling Stone and journalist found guilty over false Virginia rape story BBC

Samsung recalls 2.8 million washing machines in U.S. over injury risk Reuters. EM:

Hey, look at the bright side – at least the washers aren’t bursting into flame! But, imagine a future where most new washers are connected to the Interwebs – were hackers to trigger such an excessive-vibration condition, it would be a rather eerie consumer-product analog of the US/Israeli Stuxnet hack of the Iranian nuclear-program centrifuges.

Big Hit on Drug Stocks Caps $26 Billion Decline for John Paulson Wall Street Journal

The Descent of the Left Press: From IF Stone to The Nation Counterpunch

Class Warfare

Proposal To Allow First-Year Resident Physicians To Work 28 Hours In A Row Puts Residents, Patients, Public At Risk Of Serious Injury, Death Public Citizen

Antidote du jour. One of National Geographic’s nature photographs of the year, this one by Zhayynn James.


Four zebras stand in the Masai Mara National Preserve in Kenya at the end of the day as the sun seeps through the clouds, lighting the sky a vibrant orange.

See yesterday’s Links and Antidote du Jour here.

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  1. integer

    Were Jim Haygood and Antifa’s accounts hacked yesterday? I’m all for tin-foil hattery but the speculation in yesterday’s links was a bridge too far even for me. Surprised these two normally erudite chaps would buy into that bs. Still, I would love to be proven wrong.

    Anyway, while we’re on the topic of tin foil hats, here’s a link to my latest adventure (which actually seems pretty damn plausible to me): 9/11: Israel’s Masterpiece

    1. Pat

      I don’t know if it was too much or they see things we do not. What I will remember is that I spent years thinking that the Clintons were always victims until something finally clicked and I started really looking and realized that amid all chaff were there was a great deal of wheat. I will remember that one of Britain’s most beloved celebrities turned out to be a long time pedophile protected by many. And that beyond that they are still finding our how many of THEIR politicians were pedophiles and how they were protected by fellow elected officials, bureaucrats and even police. And from the directives of our military to turn a blind eye in the Middle East AND Penn State we also know that Americans will ignore child rape if there is some seeming advantage to doing so.

      My point is that we cannot write it off as ‘a bridge too far’ because it is distasteful or Americans are better than that. We will probably need something to break to treat ‘code’ as automatically about something other than pizza, but that doesn’t mean not looking at oddly phrased communications or failing to ask why did they say that.

      1. integer

        My point is that we cannot write it off as ‘a bridge too far’ because it is distasteful or Americans are better than that.

        Well, I guess I will just state for the record that I do not think the Podesta emails contain hidden messages about pedophilia. I am happy to stand by this assertion and people are welcome to judge my credibility and judgement in the future on the basis of whether this assertion turns out to be correct.

        1. ambrit

          No one is questioning your integrity. This subject is subsumed under the rubric; “One can never be too cynical.”

        2. Pat

          I understand that. Hell there is enough distasteful, and clear cut conspiracy information in them right out in the open without looking for coded messages between pedophiles. And without knowing what we are looking for it is all baseless speculation.

          I just no longer think ‘that’s not possible’ or ‘it would never happen’.

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            What a sorry definition of “obscene” we have.
            The naked female form is “obscene”. Sex is “obscene”.
            But Hilary’s #1 campaign contributor blowing the head off a Yemeni grandmother in the desert is not “obscene”. 240 men, women and children drowning today off the coast of Hilary’s brand-new Islamist hellhole Libya is not “obscene”, it’s “tough” and “pragmatic”.

            1. Pavel

              Thank you HAL for the glimpse of sanity and humanitarianism (often on display here at NC, mind you, but not in the MSM or in public discourse).

              Destroy nations! Kill 500,000 kids with sanctions… no problemo!

              Flash a nipple during a football game… OUTRAGE!

        3. Kurt Sperry

          For me it’s closer to being gratuitously lurid rumor with no empirical basis in fact whatever. Akin to silly tabloid garbage, usually defended after the fact as being written to entertain or as implicitly in some way tongue in cheek. Maybe it was a pure joke though, I don’t know. Not very funny, then. This sort of lurid rumor spreading is very likely however actually counterproductive to the cause given that it distracts from and discredits the reportage of the many, many, many actual, real, documentable facts available to discredit or indict Hillary et al.

          1. none

            I thought the CP thing was interesting until I realized that while the Clinton inner circle being pedophiles might explain some things, I couldn’t go as far as to believe that they were also 4chan regulars.

          2. integer

            This sort of lurid rumor spreading is very likely however actually counterproductive to the cause given that it distracts from and discredits the reportage of the many, many, many actual, real, documentable facts available to discredit or indict Hillary et al.

            Exactly. Thank you.

        4. Lambert Strether

          It’s not a priori crazy pants (see Jimmy Savile at the BBC), but that’s not the same as saying there’s a prima facie case in re: Podesta. The posting on that strikes me as more than a little overheated; the sort of online detective work that fingered the wrong guy in the Boston Marathon bomber case, for example.

          1. WJ

            Yes, I agree. The food-allegory is over the top but the broader possibility of the Foundation getting caught up in enabling some of its clients’ (Saudis) less decorous vices (sex servants, etc.) is quite reasonable. I wrote a much longer response with a bunch of links but maybe that is gone. Shoot.

          2. WJ

            Sometimes a walnut sauce is just a walnut sauce. Sometimes.

            ON THE OTHER PASTA, I think that there ARE important connections to be drawn between the Clinton Foundation, its employees, its donors, its activities, and the following:

            1. Tony Podesta,140K/month Lobbyist for (and regular Visiting Guest of) the House of Saud. Has Tony had erotic adventures in the sultry kingdom? Wouldn’t this be almost expected to have occurred? I mean, shit, the flesh is weak yo.
            2. John Podesta (who judging from his emails to his brother Tony has an appreciation for Arab-state hospitality)
            3. Elite Saudi culture is oozing with sexual debauchery, sexual crime, sexual trafficking, sexual slavery, etc. that has been well-documented, is increasingly noted, and in recent years has arguably spilled over into scandals involving Saudis Behaving Badly: U.S. Edition.
            4. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has donated about $30 million to Clinton Foundation since 2008. No idea how much private donations from royal family amount to.

            The basic aim of the points above is to suggest that once you’re in bed (so to speak) with the House of Saud, there’s no telling how kinky things might get. Not because you are a pedophile who likes to send emails about blowjob orgies using culinary language, but because the Saudis are fuckin’ weird craaazy man–but you really want their money, they would like to buy your guns, and for this reason you’re only too willing to look the other way, and maybe even play along, just this once. It’s a complicated world, after all.

            1. Procopius

              I don’t know about the other stuff and am studiously trying to ignore it, but I’ve got to point out yet again, if the Saudis want to buy U.S. weapons systems they absolutely do not need to donate money to the Clinton Foundation. That is one of the most important functions of both the State Department and the Pentagon. Nobody needs to pay to play that game. All they need is to be a vile dictator with a country to handle the payments. I personally don’t think Hillary is any more corrupt than other high-ranking government officials, but I really don’t care. Just don’t try to put weapons sales into that — that is one of the evils of the U.S. government, openly acknowledged and admitted and documented.

              1. WJ

                But arms sales DOUBLED under her term. That’s a lot more profits to a lot more clients of Podesta Group. CAP, etc.

      2. windsock

        My original reply was swallowed by Skynet, so I’ll repost in two comments, separating the links. Sorry if the original surfaces for the repetition.

        “one of Britain’s most beloved celebrities turned out to be a long time pedophile protected by many”… a popular opinion, shared by many, but not proven. And challenged by a few:

        1. Pat

          And I direct you to the Crown Prosecution Report that decided that the police and prosecutors would have been able to pursue three different cases against him. And the HMIC report shows that there the police had received intelligence regarding Savile’s sexual conduct in the 60’s.

          What I will give you is that not all of it was pedophilia, he was apparently a fairly wide ranging abuser.

        1. sid_finster

          The references appear to be code for something.

          What something is, I cannot say, but it is probably shady. “If you have nothing to hide” and all that.

          1. windsock

            I’d go with drugs over paedophilia, if I were to go for anything at all. But I have no evidence and therefore shall go for neither, until such evidence appears. Makes for an interesting parlour game, though, doesn’t it?

          1. windsock

            Not the point I was making. The investigation is stalled, having lost its third chairperson. It’s a judicial mess, but as Brexit proves, we are very good at those in GB.

            That particular blog does a forensic job of going through the various paedohunts we have had over the past few years and also includes the particular experience of the blogger involved.

            It also goes into great depth around the Jimmy Savile case and the journalists and lawyers with vested interest in the stories. As does the first link I posted. Neither disprove that JS abused people, but they do a very good job in exposing flaws in accounts.

            Paedophilia is the greatest slur you can cast on anyone. It’s easy to throw around and mud sticks. I’d prefer to reserve judgement until a court case is brought, evidence is produced, proof is given and guilt established. But how do you try a dead man?

            Yes, obviously, some are guilty. But all this came out after JS’ death. In UK law, you can’t libel a dead man. Funny, that.

      3. Jared

        Having looked into this, it really does seem like they’re just discussing pasta with walnut sauce. The conspiracy theorists here don’t seem to emphasize Podesta’s statement, in one of the threads in question, that “It’s an amazing Ligurian dish made with crushed walnuts made into a paste. So stop being so California.”

        Far more interesting to me is the notion underlying such conspiracy theories that evidently nearly anyone would be participating in orgies with trafficked children, were the option simply on the table somehow. As the Marquis de Sade wrote, “Men are all weak and the pious are the weakest of them all, especially when you give them boys.”

        1. hunkerdown

          Conspiracy theory: recognition that adults have interests and that adults lie self-righteously.

          Cultural sexual maturity is a cultural matter. I don’t see why that’s in the least controversial, from the religion supposedly underlying the whole Western mess frequently marrying off teenage wives without batting an eyelash to modern beauty ideals based on ten-year-old girls.

          Perhaps a more reasonable and more subversive underlying konspirakii theory would be that of a private regime of extralegal discipline backed by public legal taboos that protects an exclusive resource, which is so zomg conspiratorial and comic-book that Romany and Mafia are well-known to have their own versions of just that structure.

          Which breaks Democrat brains because Democrats follow the rules just like Mommy, according to one “inspirational” children’s book. Just not everyone’s rules. It seems to take a lot of practice for bourgeois liberals to fake all that incredulity that they might actually build power structures that have been invented before! That’s immoral in their blinkered little worlds!

          So that’s why we’re laughing at you.

          1. Plenue

            While it’s easy to criticize the use of ‘conspiracy theory’ as a way to discount anyone not accepting the MSM propaganda, be careful of going too far and saying everyone with a crazy theory is somehow legitimate. There is a class of nutjob who watches Alex Jones (and in a previous era, listened to Art Bell/George Noory) and makes videos like…whatever the hell this is:

          2. Waldenpond

            I’m confused. Not a Democrat, but are you laughing at people because they don’t find juice bro to be reliable?

            To be clear: juice bro is the single individual that started the asinine word salad WL Podesta email myth as an advance for today’s sloppy photo web flop.

      4. Waldenpond

        [My point is that we cannot write it off as ‘a bridge too far’ because it is distasteful or Americans are better than that.]

        Yes, we can write it off because it’s bullsh#t. On Nov 3, juice bro spumed, 4chan picked it up and sent out marching orders, it crept into 10th tier twitter accts, everyone could watch live as it seeped into d level twitter accts, it flooded pua sites, it flooded gamergators, etc, it hit all the important blogs like Alex Jones, and lo and behold…. the Pepe’s trotted it out here. Juice bro is not reliable. 4 chan is not reliable. Alex Jones is not reliable.

        It’s been a complete flop and they have different marching orders for today but in an effort to go beyond beating dead horses, some are now picking maggots off of dead frogs and rotting eggs.

        Gotta say, I am actually surprised (nauseated) at the number of commenters here parroting every Pepe, egg and 4chan delusion.

        1. pricklyone

          The same way all this crap gets disseminated.
          Thanks for the play-by-play.
          Lots of covered political spectrum here, different agendas, some get carried away with it.

    2. Steve H.

      The difficulty is that there have been verifiably suppressed evidence chains. Leaks have become credible due to the top-down battle against transparency.

      This cojoins with timing issues involving the election.

      The material fact is the seizing of Anthony Weiner’s laptop. The IF is whether NYPD leaks are credible, and go to the difference between local and global elites.

      A framing of the systemic problem is provided by Michael Hudson:

      “The idea of politics here is to discredit any candidate on the other side. I learned this when I was in my 20s. The Catholic Church was funding my early critique of American foreign aid as being imperialist. I asked whether they thought I should go into politics. They said, “No, you’d never make it”. And I said, “Why?” and they said, “Well, nobody has a police record or any other dirt on you.” I asked what they meant. They said, “Unless they have something over you to blackmail you with, you’re not going to be able to get campaign funding. Because they believe that you might do something surprising,” in other words, something they haven’t asked you to do.”

      1. Ivy

        Leverage, the key to explaining so much of what has been described as historical events. One side gets some leverage and uses it. Sometimes, that is artful. Other times it is brutal.

        Leverage is typically applied in a bilateral, quasi-private way, with plausible deniability and real or perceived consequences for any publicizing. Other times, it is applied publicly, pour encourage les autres.

        Sunlight is the usual remedy although that may not reach into the recesses or dark corners.

      2. shinola

        “Unless they have something over you to blackmail you with, you’re not going to be able to get campaign funding.”

        Well, that pretty much explains why we have Hillary as a candidate for prez.

      3. TheCatSaid

        What Hudson says (you won’t be funded as a candidate unless you have skeletons in your closet that allow you to be controlled) was also expressed by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. Two people from FBI and another intelligence agency each told her when they were new on their job, they were asked to do comprehensive background checks on people who were being considered as potential future candidates or for other importance public office. They were told to find as much dirt as possible–business indiscretions, marriage problems, infidelity, pedophilia, money problems–anything. They each discovered that their own bosses forwarded up a list of recommended people based on the background checks. At the top of the list being recommended most highly were those with the most skeletons. The ones with clear backgrounds never made the list at all. Just like Hudson was told.

    3. Octopii

      I’m no apologist for Israeli land greed or insidious propaganda, but the linked article about 9/11 is really wacky. When somebody starts using “Zionist” as a slur it pretty much disqualifies their argument.

      1. JTMcPhee

        Go read Jerusalem Times and Ha’areth and such Israeli publications. Looks to me like “Zionist” is a well used and understood brand among the People themselves, many of who have no use for the ideology and increasing consequences that brand stands for.

        Or maybe in this day of PC, Jews and blacks are the only people allowed to use the Z and N words?

        Stridency on the part of people trying to hide apartheid and corruption and chaos-stirring behind the shouted hasnara invocations of “Anti-Semitism” seems to have lost a lot of its effectiveness in shutting down honest criticism. However, ah, $38 billion, after all, buys a lot of “grass mowers…”

      2. hunkerdown

        Special pleading. You wouldn’t have any problem with Othering-by-label any other group, would you?

        And frankly, anyone who believes that imaginary friends’ land title is good and valid needs to be institutionalized. Those who have a history of genocide for glory, as documented in the founding documents of Western religion, well, perhaps they should be worrying less about settlements and more about settling up, as in reparations.

    4. cocomaan

      When you consider that Human’s husband is being investigated for sexting a minor, it doesn’t feel that far fetched.

      I’ve seen enough conspiracy theories proven right this past four years (warrantless wiretaps, assassination programs, Dems being coopted by one political family) that it’s hard to take anything off the table.

      1. Lambert Strether

        If you want to put something “on the table,” you don’t just dump it. You put it on a plate, and you provide cutlery.

        In this case, the plate is provenance, and the cutlery is your assessment of the evidence.

        All of the examples you give had provenance and it was possible to assess the evidence. If you want an overheated fever swamp of CT, there are plenty of sites on the web that cater to your tastes. Feel free to patronize them.

        1. cocomaan

          Considering that wikileaks is playing around with the evidence for political gain, and others suppress it for political gain, and the internet is full of paid posters from the political campaigns, we the people are in a very bad spot on this.

    5. Katniss Everdeen

      Maybe some of the skeptics here with nothing better to do could google “Boys Town scandal” for a primer on how “philanthropic” connections with orphans can be exploited for fun, profit and blackmail potential.

      Probably one of the biggest scandals few ever heard about, since many of the exposes were denied the light of day until long after the fact.

      Also notable was the contemporaneous timing with the rise of one william jefferson clinton to national prominence. And what good is 30 years of “public service” if you can’t learn a few tricks to stuff up your sleeve in case you need them later.

      1. integer

        I’m not denying those sorts of things happen. Just look at the Catholic Church. What I am stating, however, is that the Podesta emails are not filled with coded references to pedophilia.

        1. Katniss Everdeen

          Not meaning to cast any aspersions here, but, not being a pedophile myself, I don’t feel qualified to dismiss these claims out of hand.

          With regard to the catholic church, an entity controlled by a foreign, theocratic “government” that enjoys considerable protection from the supposedly secular u. s. government, I have always considered the tepid response to its pedophilia to be inexplicably muted and grossly insufficient. And maybe now we know why.

          1. integer

            Not meaning to cast any aspersions here, but, not being a pedophile myself, I don’t feel qualified to dismiss these claims out of hand.

            Well afaik you’re not a politician or a banker either so why not extrapolate your above standard to all your comments here?

          2. Waldenpond

            [Not meaning to cast any aspersions here, but, not being a pedophile myself, I don’t feel qualified to dismiss these claims out of hand.]

            Really? You’re making an argument Juice bro, 4chan, Pepe and eggs are reputable information sources. If that’s the route you want to go…….

          3. Lambert Strether

            > I don’t feel qualified to dismiss these claims out of hand.

            Really? What qualifications do you need to dismiss claims not backed by evidence? Laypeople shouldn’t do that?

      2. Lambert Strether

        Like I said, the totally unverified 4chan rumor isn’t a priori implausible. That doesn’t mean that there’s a prima facie case for it. The comparison to Boys Town, therefore, begs the question.

        Elites do all kinds of weird stuff; if the rooms in every Beltway motel were bugged — Heck, who am I kidding with “if”? — the stories in the aggregate would doubtless tell of very strange characters and plot turns. But not every member of the elite does. So we have a category error on top of the question begging.

    6. Vatch

      9/11: Israel’s Masterpiece

      Intriguing. I’ve read about the 5 Dancing Israelis before. Will we ever learn the full truth? Probably not.

    7. Lambert Strether

      I ripped out that entire thread. It was ridiculous and made the blog look bad.

      Again, I shouldn’t have to say this, but the place to discuss entirely unverified 4chan commentary is 4Chan. This should not be a hard concept to understand.

      There’s plenty of material that’s suitable for Reddit or gawd forbid Facebook that is not suitable for the NC comment section.

      People who are operating in several venues at once — and especially those who operate in “any stick to beat a dog” or “bottom feeding” mode elsewhere — should (and by should, I mean “had better”) come to the grips with the fact that the rules of the game are different and tougher here; necessarily so, if we wish our high quality comment section to survive.

      This is two days running I’ve had to rip out long threads that began with bad-faith shit-stirring garbage comments (threads in which, sadly, many good faith NC commenters invested time and care). Threads that if we let them stand would have made the blog look very bad.

      The excuse may be that “the election is making us all crazy,” or “this election is so important that it doesn’t matter what I say, so long as my enemy is defeated.” Well, if I’m right, the election is going to settle precisely nothing, and volatility will only increase as we head toward a legitimacy crisis.

      That makes NC’s role all the more important, and makes good faith comments and commenters all the more important.

      Don’t make me rip out more threads!

          1. integer

            Apologies. I’ve been sitting on that link for a while and was interested in what the commentariat would make of it.
            In any case I will refrain from posting those sorts of links in the future.

      1. Yves Smith Post author

        Let me underscore that ripping out a thread is extremely time consuming, since not only do comments need to be trashed individually, but they also need to be removed in a precise order so as to not destroy nesting of comments for the entire post.

  2. IHateBanks

    “Those charging points can’t come soon enough.”

    Sorry, I beg to differ. IMO,electric cars are little more than a stopgap technology until transformational “nextgen” automotive power sources emerge. And no, I do not know what that will be.

    By the time the infrastructure is built, I believe the industry will have moved past this technology. I would prefer to see limited infrastructure dollars spent on projects that benefit the many, not the few city dwellers that decide to take a weekend road trip in a vehicle not suited to the task.

    As always, YMMV.

    1. Steve C

      Car-dependent culture is unsustainable, whatever the technology. The exurbs are doomed, environmentally and fiscally. Take the bus.

      1. Katharine

        Nice idea in a place like Toronto with good bus service, very difficult in a lot of others, and the resistance of state officials to real improvements in mass transit is very hard to overcome.

        1. Steve C

          Car culture. Another reason America sucks for 90 percenters. Cost of car acquisition, ownership is the cost of entrance to US society. Thousands of dollars a year. A huge uncounted tax. A car is a vital organ to most, as necessary as the heart or lungs. It is hyper-wasteful and decadent but most Americans can’t imagine anything different. If Illargi is right and petroleum supplies are disrupted suddenly, no one will be more unprepared than the US. No country other big country has gone in 97 percent for the car like we have. Car culture is a huge cost on the working class and another way they’re getting screwed.

    2. cocomaan

      Funny story about electric cars. I was in Baltimore recently during a brief but severe rainstorm. The parking garage began to flood so my father in law and I went to move the car to a drier location.

      The Tesla parked in the electric car spot was charging, its long cord going from the charging point near the back bumper and into the wall.

      Imagine how happy we were to see that the slack of the cord was completely submerged in water. My father in law and I laughed nervously and got the car moved as quickly as possible.

      Electric cars will probably remain a domain of the urban and suburban because of range and unreliability. Even then, they rely on sound infrastructure. Given rising tides, electric cars don’t exactly play nice. The grid isn’t very reliable either.

      1. Kurt Sperry

        Electric cars aren’t really powered by electricity, but rather by whatever power generated the electricity minus whatever parasitic losses en route. Electricity isn’t a power source, but rather a power conduit. Electric cars will supplant internal combustion cars relatively soon because managing the environmental impacts of powering and using them at far fewer generating point sources is hugely simpler. In other words, if you discover a technological 5% thermodynamic efficiency gain, instead of having to replace or modify every car on the road everywhere to actually see the gain, you can replace or modify a few generating plants and it’s thereafter baked in.

        Actual rural, like flyover states, huge counties where the biggest town is 25,000, places will be the last places where IC cars will be practical, but the odds that improvements in range won’t solve that aren’t good I’d say. As soon as it is significantly cheaper to operate electric vehicles in big market sectors, the entire enormous fleet of IC rolling stock is a dead man walking–or driving or whatever.

      2. a different chris

        >Even then, they rely on sound infrastructure.

        Unlike the internal combustion engine, since gasoline just grows on trees.

  3. Barmitt O'bamney

    Of course Putin granted Seagal Russkie citizenship. If Stephen Seagal wants in your country, there’s no way to stop him. Better to invite him and make it look like your idea. On the other hand, if Chuck Norris wants into your country, just drop all your shit and RUN.

    Gerard Depardieu also moved to Russia some time back, as the territorial limits of France could no longer encompass his waistline.

  4. allan

    ‘Rahmemail’: Wikileaks shows Emanuel’s use of personal domain [Chi Trib]

    Mayor Rahm Emanuel has used personal email accounts to communicate with top government and political figures, including through his own custom email domain that’s similar to the one Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton used on a private email server as secretary of state.

    Emanuel registered his personal email domain,, on May 16, 2011 — the same day he was sworn into office as Chicago’s mayor, records show. …

    In Illinois, government business conducted via email by a public official is subject to the state’s open records law. Several Chicago Tribune Freedom of Information Act requests since Emanuel took office have turned up little to no email communications from the mayor on his government email accounts. …

    I’m sure Matt Yglesias, Josh Marshall and other Dem camp followers have a perfectly sensible explanation.

    1. Jerri-Lynn Scofield

      It’s not only the Democrats who’ve attempted to weasel their way around complying with open records laws by whatever means — however ineffectual and spurious — they can think of. See for example, this text (which comes from the above WSJ clip on the Bridgegate convictions):

      “While Ms. Kelly and Mr. Baroni, both 44 years old, spent six weeks behind the courtroom’s defense tables, at times it felt as if Trenton itself was on trial. Witnesses said it was common practice to use personal email addresses to conduct government business, because it was believed they weren’t responsive to public-records requests. They described Mr. Christie as a testy micromanager who once threw a water bottle at Ms. Kelly and left an expletive-heavy voice mail for a county freeholder who criticized his response to superstorm Sandy and called him fat.”

        1. Jerri-Lynn Scofield

          I’m also old enough to remember those days too. Not to mention that the Obamamometer promised us the most transparent administration ever.

          1. Katharine

            I never had much faith in his promises after he jettisoned his pastor during the campaign, and any lingering hopes died with his ridiculous weasel response to Helen Thomas in the first press conference after the inauguration.

            1. Goyo Marquez

              I thought I was the only one who thought that about the way he treated his pastor. What a user.

              1. Lambert Strether

                You weren’t alone. The speech where Obama threw Jeremiah Wright under the bus was universally hailed as the greatest speech EVAH on race matters by the Democrat-leaning faction of the the political class in 2008.

                Of course, Obama was granted to privilege of extensive reflection and navel-gazing in his totes not political choice of pastors, unlike the “bitter”/”cling to” crowd, who as everyone who is anyone knows are not fully human moral agents.

        2. NotTimothyGeithner

          Team Blue made it clear they wanted the votes of the jack booted “moderate suburban Republicans”*, but now the Democratic Party has to deal with the fallout of a permanent separation of its base and recognize the fascists still won’t be voting Democratic while they attacked potential Democratic voters (rural and poor whites at every opportunity) and treated blacks and Hispanics like dirt who owed Team Blue.

          My guess is they will try to be anti-Republican going forward, but of course, they have to deal with articles about the friendship between Michelle and Shrub. In the end, Team Blue’s problems aren’t emails or people not understanding their message. The problem is voters remember all too well what Republicans are and saw the Democrats go hard for the jackboot crowd, not just doofus Republicans but the real Nazis or the American equivalent of Prussian elite who backed Hitler to protect themselves from the socialists tax plans.

          *Suburban Republicans are fascists. Yes, they can be polite and often try to dress up, but so did the Nazis.

        3. Phemfrog

          Exactly. The “liberal” media would have been up in arms about this if it were a Republican. But it’s Team D this time, so it’s excusable.

          1. NotTimothyGeithner

            If it was a meaningless state level Republican, but the msm is a pro corporate Washington bootlicker society. Hillary tried to hide behind Colin Powell for a reason, and the msm loves Republicans who don’t hate gays or whatever the current pet cause is that doesn’t require effort on behalf of the media. Look how much positive coverage Lindsey Graham had for his “Presidential” run compared to say the efforts of Lieut. Dan Choi to end DADT. The NYT sat on the wireless wiretapping story in 2004 for fear of influencing the election.

            A Hillary and Jeb contest would be every MSM host’s ultimate wet dream. They could talk about what to call Bill, Shrub, and 41 til the cows came home.

            1. Steve H.

              : They could talk about what to call Bill, Shrub, and 41 til the cows came home.

              A comedic thought: I was considering Louis C.K.’s recent opine on the election:

              “We need a two-faced, conniving, crazy, just somebody who’s got a million schemes…

              But we need a tough bitch mother who nobody likes and just does shit…

              If you vote for Hillary, you’re a grown-up. If you vote for Trump, you’re a sucker. If you don’t vote for anybody, you’re an asshole.”

              But it occurred to me he could’ve been drawing his conclusions as a professional comedian. Hillary gets in, you can recycle jokes from a quarter-century ago. Would’ve been the same with Bush.

              But with Trump, it’s not just about coming up with new material (tho I’m sure there’s a previous body of work to draw on). It’s an existential problem: how do you provide material that is clearly satirical about this guy. He’s already a P.T. Barnum elephant-sized caricature of himself. So maybe Louis is taking one for the team, the way just about every millionaire comedian is, and letting his salary determine his understanding.

              1. pricklyone

                Re: Louis CK

                I happened to have the TV on and saw this appearance. I got the impression that LCK was inebriated, and unprepared for an interview that night. While he has in the past had an occasional insight prove to be “internet-worthy” (read viral response), I think these comments were just rah-rah shit for the Conan audience.

                1. Steve H.

                  I’ve noted the “If you vote for” paragraph being used as a pro-HRC meme, but they don’t quote the assessment section.

                  The people I know with a ‘tough bitch mother’ are not voting for her, they have moved on in a big way. However, Petal notes below, “literally covered her ears and closed her eyes” and Janet says from what she’s seen, those who go in the voting booth are bound and determined to press the button they’ve decided on.

                  While it looks like the classic Clinton crash is underway, I really am unable to explain LCK’s comments in a classic Bernays way. What idness is that appealing to? I’m inclined to agree he may have shot from the hip to unknown effect.

                  {edit: meant to link this at ‘crash’:}

    2. Katniss Everdeen

      Being “irredeemably” un-tech-savvy, I may not be comprehending fully the significance of these private email schemes.

      But if registering or represents an intention to skirt open records law, the game doesn’t strike me as a particularly tough nut to crack.

      For example, if you think loretta lynch could be trying to foil FOIA, try looking for or What am I missing here?

      1. Uahsenaa

        It’s actually much a similar problem as with the USG, except states Attorneys General don’t have anywhere near the manpower or resources to enforce these things. Someone has to actually compel the person in question to hand over their emails, by court order or sanction, which why, for instance, we didn’t really start hearing much about Clinton’s emails until she was sued in federal court over them. Even then she endlessly stonewalled.

        As a state employee, I’m subject to the same laws, and it’s my employer (the University) that would compel me to hand things over, which is why I’m pretty careful about keeping my business and private correspondence separate. However, if you’re the one in charge, especially in a place as corrupt as Chicago, where one part of government can always be kept in check by threatening to expose the nefarious things they’ve done, who’s going to put the screws to you to hand over? Just as with Lynch in the DoJ, no one in government is going to put much pressure on, because they’re all implicated in one way or another.

        1. allan

          As a state employee, I’m subject to the same laws, and it’s my employer (the University) that would compel me to hand things over, …

          Absolutely. This is why the email mess will likely resonate not just with some of the 5 million people who have security clearances, but with millions more who know that any work-related emails belong to their employers. You don’t have to be a BernieBro (/s) to know that this kind of behavior is supposed to get you in trouble.

          How’s that electability meme working for you, Prof. Krugman?

        2. Katniss Everdeen

          Thanks for the response.

          I was just thinking that opening a “personal” email domain on the same day as you take political office should be considered evidence of intent to skirt open records laws until proven otherwise.

          Kind of like being found in possession of large amounts of cash are considered evidence of “drug dealing”–until proven otherwise.

          1. rfdawn

            If you intend that email domain to be private it can easily be that way. The domain name could be with the email server in a rack in Iceland. The domain name can be registered thru a nominee registrar. That’s how the spammers get by. Then you only need to worry about ill-disciplined insiders…

          2. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            I’ve been asking myself “why”? Why did Hilary feel she needed a private server? I think people are missing the point, certainly sensitive top secret documents were mishandled and hacked and while serious enough that is mostly a nothingburger. But I believe she set up the server expressly to hide the activities of her lovely “Foundation” and the private nexus of money laundering, arms dealers, mining grifters, disaster carpetbaggers building luxury hotels with Haiti “relief” funds, illegal campaign contributions, pay-to-play, and much more.

            1. pricklyone

              Kinda answers itself, doesn’t it? This is why they keep conflating “email account” with “email server”. Keeps ordinary users of email thinking in terms of Gmail accounts and the like. Control of private information is only reason to set up your own email server. For her personal emails “about Chelsea’s wedding and stuff” wouldn’t Gmail or an account with an ISP work fine? Of course. But she wouldn’t have control over backups, administration, or retention. Doesn’t the multi-billion dolla Clinton Foundation have a server already, where she could easily set up a “personal” email addy? Not if you have something to hide!
              Corporations need servers, like Clinton,INc

            2. Lambert Strether

              She needed a private server so she could be 100% certain any data on it was erased.

              Now, they fucked that up, but then they’re fuckups. That’s the only reason you’d need one.

              1. YY

                Since we’re all free to speculate, I would suggest that Uma/Wiener laptop probably had email client account of HRC as well. Forget the privacy, HRC would have wanted her assistant/s to have access to the mail to save from having to forward received messages. Given the frequent swapping of smart phones and limited utility for large attached documents and such, a PC would have been useful in some instances. With the exception of possibly Wiener, these people have no clue as to how and where mail is stored either on their own devices or on the server. So the archiving of mail theory does not fly. However a dumb email client that retrieves mail more or less constantly (picture the original setup of the account as the tech looks away while the customer keys in the password after which the email client requires no further thoughtful use to accumulate tons and tons of communication, The user meanwhile believes that the server is the key to storage and just happens to miss the existence of the now no longer regularly used or passed on to Wiener laptop. If you were Wiener, for not all that perverse a reason, the accounts would be kept alive retrieving all the mail that have been setup to receive (alas, there will not be any sent by HRC mail in the laptop). If the warrant is written broadly enough all client accounts setup on the laptop would now be fair game and beyond what lawyers may have agreed and excluded/destroyed as to data on other devices and backups that may actually have existed with the tech.

                The FBI should at the very least be able to test whether or not the deletion of “private” emails was really just a data base exercise that sorted the data or there were also some deliberate concealment of a handful of specific very embarrassing items. With the exception of Wiener, it actually makes no sense that the “private” communications (about weddings and yoga) are even worth hiding. The only stuff that are worth concealing are politically damaging items. So the entire logic of the story that is being fed is suspect. Then again any hope of real blatant criminal stuff in email is a fantasy.

                This is Watergate all over again where the coverup becomes the bigger scandal. Good old days, as a Watergate today would not result in a presidential resignation.

            3. Ohnoyoucantdothat

              Just a few points about the private server:

              1. Clinton isn’t that smart. I’m no expert on email servers but I know enough to know I don’t know enough to do something like that and not screw it up. If I were contemplating an illegal activity like this server I’d find the most experienced server guy I could and have him set it up and run it. Experience is essential as he needs to know everything that’s needed to make sure the system was as secure as possible. That means a separate hardware firewall between the network and the computer. That means stripping out all the junk apps from Linux so there’s no way to end run around the OS. That means closing every extraneous network port (Linux has a ton of them and many are pre-configured to be on) so only the email app is listening. And that means someone who is visiting the server often to check the logs and to maintain the system. She did none of this it appears and is now paying the penalty. Really stupid and a strong indicator of either (or both) hubris or a lack of critical thinking skills.

              2) I think she wanted the private server to control access to it. She put in her house … not an office or someplace where people would be around. It was very private for a reason. But she seems to have forgotten that the people hired to maintain the server could read everything and could make copies. Doesn’t sound like she even encrypted the files (see 1 above). Again, stupid behavior.

              3) Seems she doesn’t have the most competent staff around her. Someone should have pointed out these issues and helped her find good solutions. Indicates to me that she doesn’t hire people smarter than her … sign of either incompetence or fear of being overshadowed. A true leader is not intimidated by smart workers.

              Just my 2 cents worth.

      2. cocomaan

        What am I missing here?

        When it comes to easy ways to skirt the law, Clinton and Emmanuel and others probably think that their connections to Google or Yahoo will save them the trouble of transparency.

        I also think you’re missing that not too many people actually understand IT security, besides Trump’s “400 pound hacker”, plus the smattering of others: white hat, black hat, government, private, public sector, individual citizens, Anonymous, what have you. If you think you’re tech illiterate, imagine someone like HRC who pitched a hissy fit about her blackberry to POTUS.

        Which is why it’s so easy to say “Russia did it” or “Anonymous did it”. Who the hell can tell them no? It’s even more ridiculous than releasing tax returns that only 100 or so people can read competently.

      3. Yves Smith Post author

        Government agencies regularly thumb their noses at FOIA. CalPERS despite my rows with them and having to sue them is better than most. A journalist told me when I sued them in 2014, “You expected them to respond? You pretty much always have to sue if what you want is important.” CalSTRS has completely ignored some of my Public Records Act (California-speak for FOIA) requests.

        For instance, I put in a FOIA to the Fed asking for all records by the members of the Board of Governors (which would include e-mails), members of its economic research department, and other named parties for a time period starting in late 2014 and running into 2015 that included the words Greece, Grexit, Varoufakis, Tsipras plus a few others. They said there were no records that matched my request. Help me.

    3. Lambert Strether

      The key differentiator, however, is that Clinton had her own server. That is, she controlled her own data — and so was able to wipe it “with a cloth” — which Rahm does not (assuming that Google cooperates with a request for his data).

      1. Ohnoyoucantdothat

        Perhaps a bit off topic but consider this … something no one has mentioned yet. Clinton was SoS. A very important and public position. Her words had effect far beyond the US of A. Does it not make sense that everything she wrote in her emails should be classified by default? Even the most mundane of topics, if part of her job, would be of interest to other countries and should not be placed on an unsecured server. They should remain classified until vetted by someone in a position to determine such things. Using that logic, almost all of her emails would be classified and the ‘crimes’ she committed much worse.

  5. Jim Haygood

    Last night at his rally in Hershey Pa, Trump mentioned a video of 0bama campaigning in Fayetteville NC yesterday, in which 0bama seemingly loses control of a friendly crowd (at least those visible behind him, chanting “Hillary, Hillary!”). For 2-1/2 minutes 0bama fecklessly urges “Hold up, hold up,” even resorting to pounding the podium with his fist.

    Trump explained that because the broadcast MSM never panned their video cameras to show a protester causing a disruption in front of 0bama, the video is uninterpretable with that key context removed.

    Then Trump pointed to the broadcast MSM pen in the Hershey arena, as the livestream camera (by Right Side Broadcast Network in Auburn AL) panned to show not only the media scrum with their big black, motionless video cameras, but also a sold-out arena literally packed to the rafters.

    “They never move, folks. See? THEY NEVER MOVE.”

    It warmed the flinty cockles of my heart, watchin’ tens of thousands (live and online) jeer the media cucks in flagrante delicto.

    As Nobel laureate Dylan might advise Nobel laureate 0bama, “A hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

    1. Pat

      Moving my reply which wasn’t a reply.

      I do hope that we get rid of that selective editing. It is time that smoke and mirrors disappeared. Things like this and the reports from the Democratic Convention will begin making a dent, but it will still probably take time.

      Nice to see it done though.

      1. Jim Haygood

        In pre and post-event voiceovers, the small livestreaming video team from Auburn AL appealed for donations to cover the rest of the campaign.

        The narrator said they’d spent “ten or twelve thousand” covering the week’s events — a pittance that wouldn’t even pay the broadcast MSM’s catering budget (rule #1 of keeping film crews happy is good food).

        Apparently people loathe the MSM to the degree that they are willing to fund their own broadcast media, not to mention sites such as nakedcapitalism.

        Disintermediation, comrades: it’s a thing.

    2. Jim Haygood

      Ever seen a musician or comedian invite an audience member up on the stage? If the invitee has some stage presence, the fans love it.

      Trump invited a couple from South Amboy NJ whose recently deceased son Riley had been “his biggest fan” to the dais last night. The mom absolutely rocked in live performance … said her departed son had Trump and the Statue of Liberty inscribed on his grave marker.

      This is live political improv at its finest (text article + 8:47 embedded video):

      1. pricklyone

        So, he used the parents of a dead boy to further his political ambitions. Sounds like something he would be mocking… oh…wait…

        1. pricklyone

          I share in the revulsion for HRC but this quote from the parents:
          “, I will not share what said, but I will share that Mr. Trump said that if it costs millions, he would give everything he owned if it would bring my Riley back.” makes me wanna puke

          Knowing what I do about the way DJT has lived his life, if he came across that boy, burning alive in a car crash, he would try to sell him a fire extinguisher. Do not try to make DJT something he is not. DJT’s career is just as dependent on political connections as Hellary.
          He is only an outsider in the Washington crowd, and probably not even that to the extent he would have you believe.

    3. Pavel

      Speaking of Trump and videos, I watched his 2 minute “closing ad” twice today. I have to say, it seems of far better quality than most of his campaign’s productions. If only it were Bernie Sanders speaking the words… He comes out against the “free trade” (ha!) treaties, Yellen, Soros, and HRC of course. Not much of an antiwar message alas. Still, powerful in its way and with impressive visuals. A shame that it is the monstrous, buffoonish Trump who is up against the Establishment and not a better candidate.

      NC comrades, please watch (2 mins only!) and let me know what you think:

      Donald Trump’s Argument for America

      1. katiebird

        That was pretty good (like you I wish it included anti-war message) .. I wish, oh well.

        I live just a mile from the Missouri state line and in the last week or so we have been getting Presidential campaign ads on TV. Last night one was shown ywice that had an actress playing Hillary in a frenzy using various tools to destroy computers and hard drives. Th voice over was so routine I didn’t even look up the first time it ran. But looking at it was fun.

        On a side note, as usual the neighborhoods around my house have Dem signs (if any) … Including tons for Hillary. But my county is almost famously Republican. For some reason Republican presidential candidates rarely have yard signs.

      2. Steve H.

        High quality, good soundtrack. I was particularly struck by the synchronizing of three motions by Clinton which coincided with the verbal emphasis of Trump speaking (about 25s in). The music builds and then breaks at 1:23 on “is you.”

        I’ll go korinthenkacker here: note the faces of color in portrait early on. The next faces are of white elites. Then white working class, and Chinese workers with no faces, behind masks. He seems to be refining ‘us’ and ‘our’ by doing this.

        Having writ that, I watched a third time. His first use of first person is at 1:37, and only once more, at the end with “I’m Donald Trump,” which is also the only time his name is spoken. The rest is we us our and your and you. Tho there is a ‘these people’ popped in about 0:25. He’s making it not about him.

          1. pricklyone

            Is she still using that? Have you noticed the change in the Clinton logo? Now the red arrow is blue. Still points to the right, tho…plenty of the old crap still on the website at this late date…

      3. fresno dan

        November 5, 2016 at 10:55 am

        Very good commercial, well produced. Thanks for that – we don’t get to see many presidential commercials here in CA.
        But I see two problems with it:
        1. The use of the word “political establishment” – Trump can’t actually address the “elephant” in the election, and I mean that literally. If Trump could say that our problems are caused as much by the repubs as by the dems, I think he could have won in a landslide. Of course, at what point would he have forgone ANY repub support and maybe even the nomination being withdrawn?
        2. Donald Trump – if he had pivoted to acting somewhat like an adult, it would be a far different race in my view (honestly, 70 years old and he acts with the maturity of a spoiled rich 9 year old)

        1. Pavel

          hi fresno dan (and the others who commented)

          Thanks for your thoughts, pretty much in line with my thinking.

          A few notes:

          –I am not a Trump fan (apart from appreciating how he is destroying the establishment)
          –@fresno dan, you are correct he behaves like a “spoiled rich 9 year old” — there is a psychopathology there, but it doesn’t manifest itself in quite such a violent or greedy way as HRC’s does
          –@Steve H. good point re the use of the first person; one thing that drives me crazy about HRC (and others) is the endless use of “I did this…” and “I think that…”. Obama of course is hardly blameless here — and neither is Trump, but he refers to himself in the third person!

          Trump’s ad seems far more effective and memorable than Hillary’s latest (which is so mundane I can’t be bothered to google the youtube URL).

        2. Pepe Aguglia

          70 years old and he acts with the maturity of a spoiled rich 9 year old

          Cut him some slack. He’s been acting like a spoiled rich 9 year old for 61 years and counting (perhaps even longer if he was a precocious child). Old habits die hard.

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            And yet I find myself thinking I would much rather have a spoiled rich 9-year old over a woman who sold the business of our government to the highest bidder for immense personal gain and uses the very instruments of our democracy (party, press, legal, regulatory) as her personal playtoys

            1. Pavel

              And remember, HAL, she sold the people’s government to the odious and despotic regimes of Qatar and Saudi Arabia. As far as I know, the spoiled rich 9-year-old didn’t do anything near as treacherous, hypocritical, or murderous.

          1. flora

            That may be the most ridiculous spin I’ve read in a long while.
            But I haven’t read TPM in a long while. ;)

            How these “journalists” expect to get their marbles back; why they ever expect be regarded as serious reporters again instead of hacks is a mystery.

  6. ambrit

    Phyllis and once I lived downstairs from a young woman doing her residency at Charity Hospital in New Orleans; this all happening back in the ’70s. Several times we had to help her up to her apartment and into bed from her car after what she later described to us as “36 hours of H—.” 36 hour shifts were not uncommon for her to pull. She knew everything there was to know about stimulants. For this so called trade group to propose returning to this old style torture regime is unconscionable. Why not force the groups spokespeople to do mere 24 hour shifts before they testify before the authorities next time.
    After this, if it gets done, watch out for long haul trucking owners groups to lobby for unlimited driving times, and watch highway traffic fatalities spike.
    Any group that advocates for regulations or de-regulations that cause increases in mortality should have their head people publicly executed, by sleep deprived executioners.

    1. craazyboy

      It always amazed me they would let an intern surgeon operate on someone during his, say, 23rd consecutive work hour.

      1. RMO

        One of my wife’s closest friends is a physician (in Edmonton) and she just finished her residency. The long shift times were terrible for her. They terrify me as a potential patient – we know just how many more mistakes people make when tired and when people in the position of hospital and ER physicians make mistakes it can kill. Airline pilots have limited duty times as do long haul truckers. Mind you I was surprised to find there is no duty hour limit on aircraft mechanics here in Canada. I never managed to get a job in that field but a friend of mine has been working as an AME since the early 90’s and he would get back-to-back eight hour shifts. 16 hours straight in a job where up to four hundred people’s lives depend on you not making a mistake.

        1. Paid Minion

          For the unwashed ……AME = Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, what Canada and the rest of the world call aircraft mechanics.

          They are called “aircraft mechanics” in the US. Why? Because mechanics are classified by the government as “unskilled labor”, the same as a mechanic at Jiffy Lube. thus biasing payscales toward the low end.

          And no, there are only “suggestions” about duty hours in the USA. I’ve pulled a few 20+ hour days. The trick is to do the important stuff when you are alert, and save the “no-brainer” parts of the job until the end.

          1. Jess

            I believe that in the U.S. it is generally illegal to call yourself an engineer, or have that work designation, if you are not, in fact, a college graduate with a degree in an engineering field. I know that in CA you cannot have a company with the word engineering in it unless either the owner is a licensed, credentialed engineer or you have one on staff. Of course, the simple solution would be to call these mechanics “technicians”.

            1. none

              Engineer by itself in the US means nothing. A trash collector is now a “sanitation engineer”. High school dropout brogrammers are “software engineers” etc. There’s a separate concept of “licensed engineer” which is probably closer to the CA idea of engineer.

            2. pricklyone

              Yeah, no. (as the young say)

              I can call myself “sound engineer” “recording engineer” , Podesta can call himself
              “Campaign Engineer”, and the trash guy is a “Sanitation Engineer”. All three of us equally qualified.
              I donno the specifics of CA law, but probably only applies to specific tasks requiring credentialed professional engineer, mehanical, civil, electrical, structural, etc.

    2. Ivy

      What are the pro arguments for long residency hours?
      I’ve come across the following and wonder what else there may be.

      Learn to do procedures so well that you could do them in your sleep.
      Need to stick with patients to work through issues rather than handing them off and risk miscommunications.
      Other generations of doctors served long residence hours so why not you?

      1. cocomaan

        What are the pro arguments for long residency hours?

        The argument I heard was that breaks involve a handoff of patients to other doctors, which are one of the points at which mistakes are made.

        According to NPR, at least.

      2. HotFlash

        Ran into this when I was dating a nurse. Newby nurses, like interns, are routinely sleep-deprived, double-shifted and put on unpredictably rotating shifts. The general understanding among them was that this was a hazing ritual, pure and simple.

        1. JTMcPhee

          ^That. And Markets. More and more work, for fewer and fewer staff, for less and less pay and benefits, with more and more micromanagement and “metrics,” to ever crappier outcomes except for the owners. And “management by intimidation” is the order of the day.

      3. Cojo

        I think the major benefit of long hours is the knowledge gained by taking care of a patient from admission to discharge. Understanding cause and effect of your actions and therapies. The term intern and resident derive from the fact that once upon a time these apprentices lived in the hospital during their rotation. So the shift was more like a month long experience. I think the real issue that is not being addressed is the lack of appropriate supervision by attending physicians. This is easier said than done as it is difficult to gauge when someone is responsible enough to have the training wheels removed. There is a lot of trust in this, trust that the trainee will know when they are over their head and come to you for help.

        As someone who finished their residency over 10 years ago, I believe the knowledge lost in training will only come back to bite someone later on in their carrier.

      4. Pepe Aguglia

        What are the pro arguments for long residency hours?

        Same as the pro arguments for hazing as a fraternity initiation rite.

        1. reslez

          The real argument is that residents are cheaper than other doctors. If they shortened their hours they’d have to hire more of them, or pay more experienced doctors in their place.

  7. fresno dan

    Four zebras stand in the Masai Mara National Preserve in Kenya at the end of the day as the sun seeps through the clouds, lighting the sky a vibrant orange.

    I’m thinking its 5 zebras….
    look at the second from the right – does his/her mane have ears?

    1. ambrit

      It’s actually six zebras ‘fresno dan.’ Yes to your eary mane, and I’ll raise you an extra back between the first and second zebras from the left. By the way, I couldn’t find the “fresno” grade in any oriental martial art. What “do” is your “dan” a part of?

      1. fresno dan

        Ah, grasshopper, it is finding only not will a whole of the hole be

        Oh, and I am not seeing the 6th grasshopper….er, zebra. I’ll compromise and concede 5.5 zebras….

          1. fresno dan

            November 5, 2016 at 4:20 pm

            I see it now!!!
            its the second (?3rd?) from the left….the tell was the extra pair of legs…

            1. pricklyone

              I count 6, as well.
              There has to be a lesson in this, in that things are not always as they appear on first look (or readthrough).

                1. ambrit

                  This herd of zebras could teach our politicos a thing or six. As Master Jimi once sang; “If Six Was Four.” We’ll never hear serf music again.

  8. Pat

    So Obama was lecturing people about how this or that was really a vote for Trump. Consider me a recovering smoker about this subject, but I’m sick to death of this perversion about voting. I really want people to call anyone trying to sell this tripe out.

    1. The only way to vote for someone or something is to vote for that person or that referendum.
    2. Not voting is NOT voting. The only conclusion is that no candidate made the case to that voter that it was their time and effort to vote for them.
    3. If the candidate cannot make their case that they are worth making the effort to mark the ballot for them to enough voters they lose. It is their loss and the loss of the party that nominated them. They failed to make the case that they should hold the office for which they are running.
    4. The only way it is not their fault is if there has been concerted conspiracy to deny voters the ability to vote OR to manipulate the vote count so that it does not accurately the will of the voters.

    Let me repeat that: If Trump wins UNLESS there has been a concerted effort to deny voters the ability to vote or to manipulate vote count so that it does not accurately the will of the voters to vote for Hillary Clinton, Clinton herself is the reason that she is not President. She will have been such a weak, untrustworthy and distasteful candidate that the majority of people chose OTHER. And you can now substitute Trump for Clinton and Clinton for Trump in those previous sentences and say the same thing about a Trump loss.

    1. katiebird

      This is especially now that we are a (near) majority Independent Voter country. Neither party owns the voters they could count on even 10 years ago.

      1. Uahsenaa

        The sense of entitlement, that they own your vote simply because, historically, their party may have once represented your class interests, is especially infuriating.

        Voters have so little power in this democracy, at least on a national level, that to then claim that even that belongs to TPTB is incredibly galling.

        1. NotTimothyGeithner

          I think the Democratic elite and tribalists are worried. They trashed the left expecting demographics to save them, and the result has been that Hillary has to pull out all the stops to squeak by a perceived carnival barker. 2018 is going to be a disaster, and the Democrats have no way to build between now and then. They will spend the bulk of the next two years trying to put out Hillary related fires. The Clinton super delegates will be under fire.

          If demographics don’t pan out, the Democratic Party has to recognize they have a huge hole, and now everyone is aligned with HRC. They can’t deny her.

    2. craazyboy

      11th dimensional voting in a two party system. Sounds like O is over complicating things. How about the DNC coulda just let Bernie win??? Too simple?

      1. John k

        Corp owners of both parties aghast about Bernie. Lots of rice bowls at risk there.
        Msm couldn’t help themselves with celebrity trump, too many viewers, plus corps thought he would be easy pickings for hill, remember big dog urged him to run.
        Gentleman Bernie never had a chance.

    3. Dirk77

      Walking yesterday in the galactic heart of the MIC, I passed a news rack showing a local Spanish language newspaper. The headline with picture of Don and HRC: “Ugly hombre. Nasty mujer. OMG.”

      1. Dave

        The word that is used to describe Hillary Clinton by Spanish speakers around here is La Bruja.”
        (The Witch).

          1. hunkerdown

            rowlf, a bruja specifically works the dark arts; a curandera specifically unworks them. Furthermore, there are gender differences. Ana Castillo wrote in Massacre of the Dreamers, “In Mexican culture, a brujo” (soothsayer) “is someone to fear and to revere while a bruja” (witch) “is someone to hate to the point of killing if at all possible.”

            You’re expected to know something about a culture before you make a grand show of having the white vapors about it.

        1. ambrit

          Around here, my limited “on the calle” impression is that the word “puta,” (whore) is the preferred term of art with our local bracero population.

      2. Kurt Sperry

        OMG, oh my god, is now one of the little phrases like “OK” that have transcended the anglosphere and can be heard decorating various languages on street corners around the globe. It might sound more like “ommahgah!” than what you’d expect it to.

    4. Pavel

      Pat: Clinton herself is the reason that she is not President. She will have been such a weak, untrustworthy and distasteful candidate that the majority of people chose OTHER.

      Precisely: either by voting for Trump (or Johnson or Stein) or by staying home through apathy or disgust.

      It is entirely the fault of the DNC in collusion with the Clinton Crime Family if the reckless and buffoonish Trump wins on Tuesday. No doubt they’ll try to shift the blame… But just look at the hapless and dishonest Debbie W-S and Donna Brazile and Hillary herself, with all their lies and distracting and sheer bullsh!t. They created this disaster, they own it.

      1. OIFVet

        They own it, but naturally refuse to admit to and take ownership. Why would they when their supporters are so blind with rage and hatred for “the other.”

        1. hunkerdown

          Firms are shared hallucinations. It’s existentially important to the firm that none of its members wake up.

        2. Lambert Strether

          The Democratic establishment never takes responsibility for anything.

          At some point after the campaign is over, it would be nice to see the Sanders operation engage in some criticism/self-criticism. It would be an excellent differentiator.

      2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        Because they are infallible, it’s always your fault.

        You sinners.

        Repent, lest you become one in the vast right-wing conspiracy, and go to that special place in Hell reversed for you.

  9. a different chris

    >Without it, long journeys will remain inconvenient,

    Um, “Enterprise delivers” I believe. So here in America already you can have an electric car that will get you to work and back, and if you want to “see the States” you can take those savings and load the family in a huge fancy honking Minivan for the drive. At the end of said drive you give the vehicle back and somebody else cleans it. You don’t have to worry about its tires. You don’t have to worry about its brakes. You don’t have to worry about depreciation. If it breaks down, that will suck but overall it’s Somebody Else’s Problem.

    Here’s an inconvenience with owning a gas vehicle – every freaking week you have to pull off and get gas. With an electric car, you just plug it in when you go home. I mean, how many people need 300 miles per day range?

    Any salesman will tell you the way to get a sale is to make sure to frame the problem so you can’t lose the argument. Why do the electric car people put up with it?

    1. Starveling

      Eh, your gas tank doesn’t lose capacity at every fill. The range is pretty constant. You know a full tank is going to get you at least X miles, and X+Y when at maximal capacity. Batteries lose the ability to hold charge cycle after cycle.

      Not a killer, but something to consider.

      Also, I wager electrics will be rather bad for downmarket types. The people who buy used cars with 100k+ miles. A normal Corolla still has quite a lot of low maintenance life left at that stage. An electric which is probably shot on its primary battery packs at that point? You can’t even pay a cheap country mechanic to help you with that. Closer in cost to having to replace an engine than a few small parts on a gas engine, I wager. Not good for the marginal.

      1. Dave

        A small simple lightweight vehicle with a well maintained gasoline engine is the best thing for the pocketbook and the environment–other than mass transit–wouldn’t it be nice if it existed where you lived?

          1. JTMcPhee

            Look at dune buggies – one big light roll cage of a frame, padding where it counts, soft suspension, great ground clearance but with great stability, very comfortable seats, simplicity, engine and transmission tunable for minimal emissions, can have great fuel economy, 6-point harness (oops, requires an extra step to buckle in), wildly effective brakes. Add a minimal weather-excluding shell made of hemp products, a drink holder or two and a spot for your iDiot iPhone, and Bob’s your uncle.

            The fat on US cars is all about Luxury and Comfort and Prestige and such, amazing how the mopes get all hot over the shape of sheet metal and fragile plastic bumpers and fittings. But then Playboy is a thing, too…

          2. ambrit

            Something like the Fiat 500, now being marketed in the US by Chrysler. Even better, with a turbine engine, or a rotary engine for efficiency. Heck, the old Stanley Steamer car ran well, and a Stirling Engine could be perfected, given proper incentives.
            Airbags are relatively lightweight. The Beetle was phased out ostensibly for EPA ‘compliance’ reasons. I’ve helped work on old VW Beetles. I remember Mr. Pierce from I believe Las Vegas had issues with faulty maintenance at a “shop” on his late wife’s Beetle. The problem in his case turned out to be the use of a cheap plastic gasoline filter rather than the recommended metal version. The plastic model melted and started a fire that destroyed his car’s engine compartment. (He was stiffed by the “shop’s” insurance company. How typical.) How ya doin Mr. Pierce?

      2. a different chris

        >I wager electrics will be rather bad for downmarket

        Might take you up on that. Remember the basic point of my post was to show that we need 1/2 the battery capacity they keep pretending we do. Now Honest Al’s used (electric) car dealership is going to have a hard time staying out of jail if they consistently roll back their battery odos so they probably are stuck with it, and are going to have to sell you a car with new or “refurbished” batteries.

        Remember again I said this would be 1/2 the capacity these people are swearing people need, so the cost is much less.

        So this “downmarket” type has gotten ahead in that he/she will be financing new batteries, which is like financing 80%* of your gas. And the rest of the car will likely go 1 million miles, easy. Electric motors are the shizzle when it comes to that. How old is grandma’s fridge?

        *or something, too lazy to figure it out. Anyway, the Chevy Bolt advertisement has a person saving $9600 over 5 years.

    2. SoCal Rhino

      Personally, I would skip the car rental or electric refills if better rail infrastructure existed.

      1. JTMcPhee

        Can’t be replicated here, of course, but I’ve been inhaling lots of British period TV shows, and what an amazing system the “Thomas the Tank Engine” railroader put together! It even accommodated for the whole “class structure,” and until lots of bits of the Brit political economy went sideways and loony, served the public interest pretty well.

        And yes, Dallas-Fort Worth is not London…

  10. Carolinian

    The Counterpunch From I.F Stone to the Nation hits many nails on the head. For instance

    Reaching the bottom of the barrel is Michael Moore, who states that there is a direct line between him and I.F. Stone notwithstanding this millionaire’s deep embedding within the Democratic Party and his most recent slavering over Hillary Clinton in the feckless documentary “Michael Moore in TrumpLand”. Although my digestive system could not tolerate sitting through his latest film, I take the New Yorker review at its word: “He refers to the chapter ‘My Forbidden Love for Hillary’ from his 1996 book Downsize This! and describes the White House dinner to which he was invited as a result—in particular, dwelling on the frank and surprisingly specific enthusiasm that Bill Clinton expressed for Moore’s work and the even greater show of enthusiasm with which Hillary followed it.”

    By contrast, as Peabody points out, Stone was proud of his outsider status.

    To all our favorite blogs (including this one): may you all be I.F. Stones, never The Nation. Says it all that after Vanden Heuvel took over the great Cockburn was gradually shoved to the side while his doofy antagonist Alterman still hangs around. Perhaps this had to do with the difficulties of keeping a print mag going in this day and age which is why blogs may be our only hope.

    1. nothing but the truth

      the problem as i see it is that in USA (and maybe all the west), one is completely alone. There is nothing with you except your body and your bank balance (god forbid if that runs low). There is no innocent human contact. It is all with some selfish purpose. That purpose kills the spontaneity of life.

      No matter how high your motives, your desire to have human contact will not leave you, except maybe if you achieve Buddhahood.

      All these well meaning folks – they also want to have friends, people who they can trust, and be close to and hang out with, without money being involved. However this assumes the other party has the same motives. That is unlikely, sadly.

      So I see all this as they inevitable result of the American banality – greed, desire and machinations for that purpose.

      In some mysterious karmic wheel kind of way all this fits in perfectly.

    2. OIFVet

      Green Day:

      Don’t want to be an American idiot.
      One nation controlled by the media.
      Information age of hysteria.
      It’s calling out to idiot America.

  11. craazyboy

    Harvard cancels men’s soccer season over lewd rankings of women players Reuters (EM)
    Hahaha. This is what happens when you have perverts running the country. They just screw things up for everyone.

    1. JTMcPhee

      When I was a student at Brown University (this was 1964), computer science was rudimentary, relatively speaking. But the frat boys enlisted the Geek-Equivalents of the day to set up a data base of student-body and townie females, to simplify the contacting and selection of screwable dates. It was a punch-card system, and one could select for body type, hair color and a number of other testosterone-adrenalin triggers, but the principal data point was whether the female would “put out” and for what types of males.

      When I was in law school in Boston, the “personals” in the Phoenix and The Real Paper were full of adds from people seeking all kinds of “experiences” that now are more fully intermediated by our wonderful Net thing — I recall one in particular, a woman (who knows if this was real or a play by someone fauxing) who would come to your pad and engage in sex with your large dog, in your bathtub, while you watched (but no touching or photos, please).

      Amazing how particularized the preferences and what some dare call perversions can be, and as “we” grow ever more “in control” of our sensoriums and opportunities and technology, how bloomingly wonderful the range of titillations is becoming!!! There’s what we humans are, and what we humans think we are, and what we humans pretend to be — non-intersecting sets? And as usual, those with all the money are way out ahead of the rest of us…

      Paedophiles, “cheaters,” self-pleasers using the latest technology from the sex-toy inventors, orgyists, various animal fetishists, on and on — let us celebrate the Glory of our Individual Freedoms, particularly to be Full Time Every-Orifice Any-Opportunity Fornicators! “The Sleeper Has Awakened,” , and this is one bit of what it’s brought:

      “What’s it all about, Alfie?
      Is it just for the moment we live?…”

      1. Katniss Everdeen

        Wasn’t computerized “rating” of harvard’s females how the cultural and economic behemoth facebook got started, and wasn’t that “innovation” responsible for zuckerberg’s legendary reputation as digital boy-god and billionaire extraordinaire?

        How quickly they forget.

        From Wiki on the history of facebook, known initially as facemash:

        That night, Mark Zuckerberg wrote the following blog entries:[9][10][11]

        I’m a little intoxicated, not gonna lie. So what if it’s not even 10 pm and it’s a Tuesday night? What? The Kirkland dormitory facebook is open on my desktop and some of these people have pretty horrendiedous facebook pics. I almost want to put some of these faces next to pictures of some farm animals and have people vote on which is more attractive.

        — 2:49 pm

        1. Paid Minion

          Maybe it just shows what an old, sexist Neanderthal I am, but bludgeoning 18-22 year old hetro males into having nothing but pure, unsexist thoughts about females seems the equivalent of forcing the Earth to change the spin on it’s axis, if not cruel.

          Let’s just go ahead and have an Inquisition looking for ratings systems, and sexist thoughts, and totally eliminate hetro males from college campuses while where at it. (Except for the Football and Basketball teams, of course)

          1. Plenue

            Speak for yourself. There’s a difference between being sexual and treating women like meat. Rating human beings on some sort of 1 to 10 attractiveness scale (or the updated digital equivalent) is a sure sign of a douchebag.

            1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

              No, the male of the species should never attempt any qualitative judgments about the suitability of a potential mate, and vice versa, the gene pool in our or any species doesn’t need any of that old-fashioned “natural selection” stuff any more. C’mon, men judge women and women judge men, always have and always will (hopefully), writing it down does not make it evil. Distasteful, perhaps, but alot of biology is like that

              1. Plenue

                I never said they didn’t. I said the kind of person who would come up with, or take part in, a formalized, ‘objective’ system of measurement (as in ‘4 out of 10, only if she covers her face’ or ‘6 out of 10, would need a couple beers before’) is an asshole.

        2. craazyboy

          I remember in high school we did it by word of mouth. There was the Looks Scale from 1 to 10, and then the Performance Scale – 1st base, 2nd base, 3rd base, Home Run!

          We didn’t give a shit whether they played soccer or not, tho a tight butt helped a lot on the looks scale. But maybe that’s what Harvard was objecting to. So they cancelled soccer.

            1. craazyboy

              Well, of course. I slowly realized that this was just our crude attempt at bringing Order to Chaos. An attempt to analyze, measure, quantify and categorize complexity – using the Scientific Method.

              Then I realized much fidelity is lost in oversimplifying data and humans are much more complicated and multi-faceted than that. For instance, the Performance Rank had no base for the “blow job”.

              Just kidding!

  12. petal

    They sent Chelsea up to Dartmouth College yesterday. Didn’t know about it so I couldn’t go in order to report back to y’all. Obama will be down in Durham(very southern NH) on Monday. They’re terrified they’re going to lose NH. They have been sending everyone but the kitchen sink up here to Hanover in the last couple weeks or so. It feels like there has been an event every other day or two. Stay tuned.

    Told someone yesterday I wasn’t voting for Clinton and why, and she went nuts. I had sent her NC to read and she liked that Millenial article some time ago, but then apparently stopped reading. She absolutely refused to listen to what I had to say about Clinton-literally covered her ears and closed her eyes. Also had one of my three bosses make an anti-Trump voter remark this past week. It was aimed at rural people (“They’re probably Trump voters there in Bradford, huh.”). The folks making these comments are all well-off and comfortable financially. They’ve never been poor and will never have to worry. Also seeing more “vote for her because she’s a woman” stuff being posted. It’s all they’ve got.

    Have a good weekend, friends. Your comments and community are so wonderful-can’t say that enough, especially during these difficult times.

    1. petal

      And she said “But Trump’s in the pocket of the Russians”. She’s bought that all hook, line, and sinker. I then brought up the Podestas and she didn’t want to hear it. May as well have been talking to the wall.

      1. NotTimothyGeithner

        You might mention the “missile gap” and the fallout (near fallout, thankfully Jack and Bobby werent as nutty as their domino obsessed advisors and generals they promoted) of Saint Kennedy trying to fulfill a mindless campaign plank. Russian boogeymen are simply a golden oldie.

        1. petal

          I tried. Even brought up that she’s surrounded by neocons, and amping up war with the Russians, etc. Didn’t work. She did not want to hear any of it. She’s white and ~55, so figure a prime target for the Russian boogeymen talk. They do not want to have a discussion that involves facts. Minds have been made up and there’s no breaking through.

            1. petal

              Spot on, Dave.

              btw, just had my first HC canvasser. That was fun! I mentioned war, corruption, lying, TPP and NAFTA, but forgot to bring up single payer and that I was a Sanders voter. It’s funny how you wait and wait for something to happen and you think you’re ready after rehearsing things in your head, but when it finally happens your head explodes and you end up forgetting some really important things you wanted to say! Was walking up to my door with grocery bags and there he was. Ah well.

          1. Paid Minion

            You would think she’d finally be seeing thru the “Russian Boogeyman” BS, after it’s been used repeatedly for the past 50 years. I’m beginning to think that economic strip-mining has the added benefit of making the wretched refuse more susceptible to “boogeymen” propaganda.

            Can’t use “Chinese Boogeyman”, even though they are a much bigger opponent, who are actively challenging the US on many fronts. If the Chinese are “the enemy”, then why are we letting all of the US MNCs export jobs/technology to China.?

      2. temporal

        Most of my almost leftyish friends have stopped being rational on this subject or any of it’s related issues. The funny thing is that if one of the others in the R field had taken the nomination I have little doubt they’d still be in the same boat. The cognitive dissonance effects of trying to find a way to justify supporting HRC seems to have pushed them into a place where rational discussions are not possible.

        My guess is that the reason some people, on either the right or left, aren’t quite as effected is based upon whether that person believes that someone or something is waiting in the wings ready to save them. If you believe you should to be protected, when looking at a field without good options, you grasp irrational hope with both hands and hold on for dear life.

        I believe the glass is half-empty.

        1. Emma

          You believe the glass is half empty because your eyes simply look beyond the seeing and do not look. There is indeed nothing “waiting in the wings ready to save” us all.
          BUT…….we may all feel warmth in our hands, when even with strained hearts, we stretch out our hands to all those living beings that share this planet, to balance the real heart of our world.

    2. Jim Haygood

      No audience estimate in the article … but the photo shows a small auditorium with attendees about 20 abreast, and a few rows deep. Maybe 300 in attendance (generously)?

      Funny how the MSM is unfailingly diligent about providing lowball estimates of protest march crowds. But when their anointed candidate is flailing, they edit out unfavorable context. Also known as “lying by omission.”

      1. petal

        Good estimate, Jim! The article did mention it was about 270 students. They said Bernie got about 425 last week and Bill Clinton got ~500. I wish I could attend these things so I could get a better feel for crowd size and enthusiasm, etc. Gotta pay the bills, though.

        1. Jen

          I went to the Bernie event. Tepid crowd response to Kuster, mildly enthusiastic response for Hassan, off the charts for Bernie.

          FWIW among my co workers, who are all reasonably well off, prevailing sentiment is leave the top of the ticket blank or vote 3rd party.

          1. petal

            Aw good on ya, Jen! Great! Thank you for reporting in on that! My well-off coworkers and friends are of the “omg but Trump!” crowd and that he must be stopped by any means necessary. They are truly terrified and have gone completely irrational. The not so well off ones are not voting for her/going third party or are going Trump. It’s been fascinating.

    3. OIFVet

      There is a lot of hate toward the “deplorables” emanating from my liberal friends, and it has become next to impossible to have a reasoned conversation. They blame everything on those “uneducated,” “racist”, “sexist,” and what have you voters. We had a dinner with a British friend recently, and things are not all that different there, either. Our British friend went off on the British version of the “deplorables,” the Brexiteers. Pointing out that one can’t win over people by calling them names, and that these people have many legitimate economic grievances, had no effect. Ended up being a rather unpleasant evening, with me being blamed for the Donald’s rise and for Brexit (!!!) simply because I am against Clinton and despise the EU’s transformation into a neoliberal tool for exploitation. Pointing out that I voted for Sanders and will vote for Stein brought me no reprieve, and neither did reminders that she engaged in Dubya-type binary thinking (“You are either with us, or you are against us”). For such highly educated and supposedly erudite people, liberals have apparently lost all ability to reason. It’s fear and loathing in the land of the credentialed 10%.

      1. flora

        Sounds like the liberal credentialed class is afraid it’s about to get outsourced. Their response is to rage at the class that *has* been outsourced, that they helped outsource. irony.

      2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        The Deplorables are people too…many dying.

        Of the dead, or dying, speak no ill…even if they are not politically correct.

        That one trumps all.

        “Very sad to hear you’re a victim of Trump’s rudeness. We are victims of a limited lifespan.”

      3. bob

        Always sure to get the dinner invite-

        What’s the difference between Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton?

        Foreign policy wise- NOTHING

      4. sd

        I have had the same experience. There is an overwhelming amount of denial going on throughout American society. Awash in a sea of willful ignorance…

      5. John k

        Status quo.
        You’re either with us or against us.
        Saying you were for Bernie cuts no ice because he too was threatening status quo… But being a gentleman, he was a more difficult target, which is why Msm was so upset with him.

        1. OIFVet

          My British friend claims to have been a Sanders supporter. Her support for Clinton is thus based on tribalism-class, gender, and liberal. She is well off and cosmopolitan, and is completely out of touch with the reality that blue collars live with. Identity politics rule with the 10%, and they become incapable of seeing the fact that Brexit, Trump, and Sanders represent the blue collar revolt against the establishment that has sent their jobs overseas, brought in cheap replacement labor, has devastated their communities, crapified social institutions, saddled them with all kinds of debt, and shortened their life expectancy. It was very ironic that she complained about how the fall of the pound post-Brexit has in effect reduced her income (she lives on the continent and gets paid in pounds), but fails to see that this is something that “deplorables” have had to live with for decades now. When I pointed this out, she simply reiterated that they are dumb, uneducated racists. Funny how her loss of purchasing power reduced her to spewing hate, but the irony was completely lost on her.

          1. flora

            shorter liberal upper class: We, the liberal credentialed upper class, are the *good* people . We should be protected.
            The working class people are *bad* people.

            1. NotTimothyGeithner

              So basically, they are Republicans who don’t pander to Evangelicals. No wonder Moore was urging Hillary to drone on about God and faith.

              1. OIFVet

                I disagree, calling a large group of people “deplorables” is evangelism in its own right, a passive-aggressive way to pass moral judgement. At least the evangelicals are open and honest about their hatreds.

            2. reslez

              It’s really ugly to see the upper middle class turn against the poor, in such vicious and bigoted terms. Go back a hundred years and you’d hear the same sort of language from smug shopkeepers and factory overseers, justifying their inflated salaries while cracking the whip on their child laborers. The working class wanted Sanders. Plenty of Trump supporters are upper-middle. Reap what you sow.

      6. Katniss Everdeen

        “Non-college educated” seems to have become an indispensable epithet when describing Trump voters lately.

        I guess it was predictable, though. When you’ve got the “college educated” tending bar right next to the “nons” and making the same wages and tips, you need a more nuanced wedge to separate them into competing factions that can’t come together over their equally desperate economic circumstances.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          You are either college educated or you are non-college educated.

          I assume only college-educated want to distinguish and make a point some people are non-college educated.

          So, the product of college education is to look down on non-college educated???

          And if that college education is tuition free, it’s an even better deal.

          “That will show you non-college educated how much privileged I am. I pay nothing in tuition for what makes me superior than you.”

          1. ambrit

            One of the lessons I learned when I went to University for my two to three years was that “networking,” also known as the “old boy net,” was a primary component of being “educated.” So, by definition, non-educated ‘persons’ were not “one of us.” I see it everywhere. It might be hard wired into the primate brain for all I know.

      7. landline

        The second test of a liberal (after endorsing the political/economic system) is the speed any disagreement moves to personal attack. In my experience, the “deplorables” are much better at discussing issues rather than personally attacking someone who might disagree with them than the “credentialed”.

        As if my or any one else’s vote for POTUS matters.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          People with a sense of moral superiority are more prone to engaging the other side with ad hominem attacks.

        1. ambrit

          The PTB seems to be taking the possibility seriously. Look at how ‘militarized’ policing is becoming now in America.

      8. Katharine

        > It’s fear and loathing in the land of the credentialed 10%.

        Credentialed is the key word. If they were actually educated they would be more rational and more respectful of other human beings.

      9. Anne

        There’s so much I just don’t get, it’s ridiculous; at 63, I thought I’d understand more, not less, but guess that’s not happening.

        Do the people who say they hate Trump voters just not actually know anyone who is voting for Trump? Do they now hate their long-time neighbor, or the person who has the office next to theirs because they identify as a Trump supporter? Do they hate Uncle Fred or Grandma? Do they hate their children?

        See, for me, it isn’t that I hate anyone on the basis of who they are planning to vote for – it’s that I don’t understand it. I think it may be a case of feeling like I thought I knew someone and now I’m not so sure I do. Or, what else is there about this person that I don’t really know?

        On the flip side, I’ve had friends go from what appeared to be passionate support of Sanders to passionate support of Clinton the moment it was clear she would be the nominee. I don’t get that, either, considering the differences between them on so many levels. ‘Course I didn’t completely understand Sanders going over to the dark side either – well, I did from the standpoint that he had agreed in the beginning he would support her if she was the nominee, and he kept his word – but on every other level, it made no sense to me.

        At this point, I truly do not think anyone’s mind is going to be changed, at least not that they’d admit to changing it. I suspect, though I have no real basis for thinking so, that there will be people who have been saying they were going to vote for one or the other, who, faced with their ballot, may actually do just the opposite.

        Kind of just dreading Tuesday, to tell you the truth. I find myself feeling out-of-sorts and a little short-tempered by it all, and overall just really not enthused or happy about doing my civic duty.

        I’m leery of the post-election period, too; I hope there’s no violence, I hope there’s no challenge, that this doesn’t drag on into December.

        One thing I am looking forward to? An end to being hectored and lectured about who I have to vote for and why one person’s reasons have to be my reasons, too.

        1. janie

          Reminds me of election week 4 years ago. We were visiting relatives (professionals all) in a well-to-do suburb in Oklahoma. On that Wednesday a relative, age about 65, said she literally knew no one who had voted for Obama…no one. Her children, residents of similar suburbs in Texas, said they also knew no Obama voters personally. None of them could understand how his victory was possible; none of them even mentioned cheating or rigging…just bafflement.

          Class separation seems the same, but temperaments seem a lot testier.

        2. Waldenpond

          It’s realignment in individuals. I think it’s permanent. Even in online connections, writers would indicate that they were looking forward to the election being over so they can get back to normal. I have seen very little of the comraderie this time around. Some will get in line, even issue mea culpas as industry insider status determines income, but there is only a fraction of 2008.

          I don’t think there has ever been an end to the hectoring. It is worse with each election. People can’t shut up about friggin’ Nader. I can see BernieBro being a long term part of the lexicon. If Clinton wins, it will be win a permanent sneer. If Clinton loses, it will be preceded by ‘effen’.

    4. DarkMatters

      I’ve been having a correspondence with a family member, and have come to realize that self-censorship is responsible for a good part of his world-view. For instance, he won’t read this site because of the name of the URL; he won’t read Steven Cohen because Cathy Young says he has it all wrong. It’s taken me a while to notice that when presented with reports that would force a rethink of his views, he finds a second article that denigrates the first, and then resolves never to visit the first site or read the person again. The reason he gives varies, but in this way, he’s compiling his own Index of Forbidden Reading. Part of his psychology is that he wants an immediate decision, won’t suspend judgment, and therefore forces himself into an intellectual straight-jacket.

      1. Massinissa

        “name of the URL”

        I take it he never watched The Naked Chef either then? Though that show is over 15 years old now, I suppose its not surprising a lot of people dont get the reference anymore.

        Also I like how the word naked is somehow taboo.

        Anyway even if the word naked wasnt in the url, if it were “Open Capitalism” or something, he would probably do what you were saying he does and just find a double-plus-good source that critiques NakedCapitalism and forever label it as a double-plus-ungood website that promotes heretical/politically incorrect thinking.

        Thank you for your post, I really enjoyed it.

        1. ambrit

          Many public libraries automatically block any site with “objectional” words in their names. I had to ask the IT person at my local library to unblock this site for me one day. O tempora, o mores!

      2. reslez

        This is why it’s valuable to me that NC sometimes links to right-leaning venues. While I’m at those sites I look around at the other stories. It helps to weaken the blinders.

  13. Jim Haygood

    At yesterday’s close, the S&P 500 index had fallen for nine consecutive days, the longest such run since Dec 1980. Chart:

    Even so, the index is down less than 5 percent from its Aug. 15th record high of 2,190.

    In the last go-round 36 years ago, the S&P fell on nine straight days from Nov 28, 1980 (its bull market peak, three weeks after Reagan’s election) to 127.36 on Dec 11, 1980, making a 9.4% decline from the high.

    The Dow Jones Industrials (then the more popular market barometer) reached a fresh high in April 1981, unconfirmed by the broader S&P. Not until Aug 24, 1981 did the S&P break down below its Dec 1980 level and carry on falling into its Aug 1982 bear market low.

    My point? Ain’t skeered. Fear is way overdone. When political uncertainty is removed on Nov 9th, stocks are going to embark on a face-ripping rally, shocking all the doom mongers (or ruine mongeurs, comme on dit in Paris or New Orleans). It’s Contrarianism 101.

    1. oho

      not disagreeing w/your main point, but we’ve never lived in a time when the world central banks (ECB, BOJ, etc) were dumping in $150+ billion dollars-worth of liquidity every month via asset purchases.

      And apparently some/all of that liquidity might end next spring.

      1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

        One question for stock investors plowing money into stocks today: how would you possibly know what they are worth?

        Since we now have hedge funds central banks who print unlimited quantities of money to buy stocks, “never” have to sell, and “never” get a margin call

        Just curious. We’re at 25X earnings today, should we look forward to 125X or 1,250X? If no, why not, is there still some kind of limit?

        Perhaps it is the LCCOTAWVTPOALOB ratio: The Load-Carrying Capacity Of The Average Wheelbarrow Versus The Price Of A Loaf Of Bread ratio

      1. Jim Haygood

        Shiller’s 10-year average PE works well, since year-to-year earnings are so volatile.

        Currently it’s at 26.0, versus an all-time high of 44.2 at the end of 1999. Room to run, in other words, if we’re talking record insanity.

        Shiller’s spreadsheet (monthly history from 1871) can be downloaded here (link in 2nd line of 2nd para):

    2. Isolato

      If only it was 1982 again, the start of one of the greatest bull market runs in history, a nearly 20X gain! Of course this was predicated on taking from Labor and giving to Capital. Who can forget the Air Traffic Controllers? And, of course, this 35 year run was also built on the “financialization” of nearly everything, the expansion of credit on a scale unimagined, the equity stripping of Michael Milken and his successors. So…though I agree we will probably see a relief rally after the election…I have to think the poor cow has been nearly milked to death.

  14. katz

    Electric Superhighways Can’t Come Soon Enough

    How is this supposed to get through ISDS? asking for a friend.

    1. craazyboy

      More generally, I’d say MIT has jumped on the sparkle pony bandwagon, same as everyone else. But at least they didn’t say the cars need to fly.

      1. Synoia

        Electric Superhighways High Speed Trains Can’t Come Soon Enough

        Got to kill those fossil fuel burners. Including Airplanes.

  15. Dave

    Clinton’s panic over Michigan:
    Most of the 45 to 65 year old black guys I have known for decades from work, military and other connections–i.e. Vernor’s bottling plant job as a kid–are going to vote for Trump. They like his plain speaking crude talk, finding it a sign of honesty and refreshing in a politician, and they can identify with everything he is saying about trade, immigration and war avoidance.

    As far as counting on poor younger blacks voting for her, crudely put, if there is anything that is more hated than The Man, it is the Man’s bitch. Especially when they are facially contorted and gesticulate widely. Just watch a Hillary speech with the sound off to get a feel for that revulsion. What Mediacrats forget is that most politicians’ speeches that show on TV are seen in bars or restaurants with the sound off.

    The whites I know in small towns and suburbs, especially those that have anything to do with the auto industry, or manufacturing of any kind, are going to vote for Trump.

    While the Clintons may be enthralling to NPR free-tote-bag listening intellectuals, most working people can readily identify with simple direct statements like
    “I’ll put a 35% tariff on any cars imported from factories you move to Mexico.”

  16. Marco

    On Scott Weiner and the Neoliberal-Homo-Parade taking over “progressive” politics. Reading the comments at Truthout at least gives me hope that gays are starting to wake up. I’ve said this before here and I’ll say it again. What’s the point of marriage equality if you don’t have a job and struggling to keep a roof over your head. Any fellow homos up for shutting down the next HRC gala?

    1. bob

      Treating it as “new” or “odd” is completely disingenuous. In my experience, gay people are much more likely to be republicans.

      Ann Coulter gets shouted down for saying that. It’s true, and so much of the left intelligentsia lets “he’s gay” pass for some sort of bullet proof left policy statement.

      1. Paid Minion

        It cracks me up that some people think sexual orientation automatically aligns with a specific liberal political orientation. (Great…….another “with us or against us” test….)

        If you grow up happily (or at least not too unhappily) around (say) moderate Republicans, odds are your worldview will be the same/similar, no matter what your sexual orientation is.

        (P. M. = Hetro Male, for those keeping score)

        1. Plenue

          Perhaps there never really was any kind of unified LGBTQIwhatever community in the first place? I’ve heard tell of gays who explicitly don’t interact much with gay advocates because they don’t like such groups, feel they subtly pressure to conform to stereotypes and the like. I’m reminded of what I think is one the The Onion’s finest ever pieces:

          Gay marriage started to get more mainstream acceptance when the media started printing lots of pictures of average, often frumpy looking people waiting to get their licenses. In other words just normal people looking for a bit of happiness. So much of the self-appointed Gay Rights Movement could just be a hijacking.

      2. JTMcPhee

        Roy Cohn and anecdotally J.Edgar Hoover were gay. Lots of Wide Stance Nominal Republicans too. Family values, Cosa Nostradamus style…

        Happy End of Daylight Savigs Time Day. Don’t forget to turn the clocks back to 1952, or 1933, or 1913, or 1788, or 1400…

    2. Buttinsky

      The willful blindness in America’s LGBT communities as to the LGBT victims of policies supported, advocated, voted for by Hillary Clinton’s in such places as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, et al., is sickening, and so depressing. Do these Americans believe that her warmongering somehow only targeted homophobes?

      As for Scott Wiener, the dilemma for those of us who live in his district in San Francisco is whether to rid ourselves of this political hack as our Supervisor and send him to Sacramento as a state senator, or to spare the state his political hackiness and vote for the infinitely superior Jane Kim… leaving us to suffer through having Wiener in the city.

  17. Carolinian

    Worth a look. Some of us think that if Sanders had made HRC’s FP the focus he would be the one now measuring the drapes.

    Matthews’s term “ruling class” is pointedly nostalgic. After Vietnam there was an accounting for the bastards. The best and the brightest were pilloried; university presidents stepped down; Robert McNamara was shunned (and a friend of my wife’s famously tried to push him off the Martha’s Vineyard ferry). Today Iraq is the elephant in the room of the establishment: we all know there has been a complete failure to exercise any real accounting for the terrible decision-making, because of an elite protection racket: too many members of the elite would suffer (and the Israel lobby would have to be named, something no one wants to do, beginning with Matthews). The other night Temple Emanu-El in New York hosted Bill Kristol, one of the lead authors of the Iraq war. Why on earth did that happen? These types of choices mask bitter rancor over the war decision that has divided our society at a deep level, and that Trump often tapped into.

    1. NotTimothyGeithner

      I think he was too afraid to challenge Obama, but I sense Obama is less popular than the idea of Obama who I suspect will be a forgotten former President. A joint effort with Eric Holder won’t draw much support.

      1. Kurt Sperry

        This. Bernie couldn’t risk losing the Obamabots from his coalition, there were simply too many. Without a good chunk of them, he couldn’t challenge at all.

  18. McWatt

    Re Middle school accidental deaths: A common site for me to see in the morning as they are on their
    way to school, and in the afternoon when they come home, are kids riding their bikes No Handed, down busy streets, with headphones on, while texting. It’s incredible. Number one that they can actually do this. Number two how incredibly stupid it is.

    Whether adult or child I find it completely reckless to just walk, run or jog on streets or sidewalks while wearing headphones.

    1. Beans

      Think this missed the point. 10-14 year old suicides are up beyond accidental deaths. So those stupid kids are becoming grossly outnumbered by the ones who don’t see life worth living. Having spent last Saturday in the hospital with my 11 year old because of self harming thoughts that I was afraid he would act on, this article caught my attention. He is realizing that he is not one of the ‘winners’ and will never be included in the ‘cool kids club’. While I think he is awesome, smart, funny and a soul with much to offer this world, the pain of exclusion is a high bar to overcome. Many of us have probably been in his shoes as kids, but things are different now.

      1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

        Thinking of you, my son had his “dark thoughts” phase. I told him to stop worrying about the future so much, just get by for a few years because everything will change. That’s how it played out, he’s now a well-launched 23 year old. Good luck

  19. Jim Haygood

    Hillary’s A-A voters are wandering off the Clinton plantation:

    On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans.

    That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

    Uh oh, uh oh. It’s gonna take some heavy-duty pandering to fix this now.

    Maybe Qatar can pony up for reparations. It’s worth it, to punch that pipeline through liberated Syria.

      1. pricklyone

        All the major polls they are pointing to on the cable news talkies seem to be around 600 sample.
        I always thought all of these were a pretty deficient slice, really.
        They have a need to get’em out quickly.

        1. Katharine

          The recent national ones listed at Wikipedia have been over 800, mostly over 1,000, a couple over 2,000. Even with those sample sizes, the margin of error is often larger than the gap between the top two candidates, which means the polls don’t really tell you anything except that it’s a very close race.

  20. JSM

    Re: Fox News anchor apologizes for false report of ‘likely’ Clinton indictment

    Bret Baier has quietly been the only person doing something approaching a real news show on the cable channels for approximately 5 or 8 years. So the guy put a story together right before airtime and some people got the wrong impression.

    The ‘news’ papers fainted and pretended he said ‘imminent.’ He didn’t. He said ‘likely’ – presumably if the Department of Injustice would let justice run its course.

    1. tgs

      I am amazed to find myself watching Fox news everyday – specifically the Lou Dobbs show where Clinton corruption and Wikileaks is the primary subject matter. It is also weird to hear the host and some of the guests call Assange a hero.

      1. NotTimothyGeithner

        Dobbs before he started to audition for FoxNews was like the WSJ before it joined the Murdoch empire, good reporting but bad politics*. Dobbs can recognize symptoms but doesn’t focus on how to treat the disease. He’s the ilk who will rail about small businesses facing a world without customers without any money then conclude we need deregulation.

        *News Corp is propaganda for certain Republicans.

      2. polecat

        This election ‘season’ has certainly brought together it’s share of strange bedfellows ….

        ‘Eyes closed wide’

    2. barrisj

      Well, Baier seems to have avoided a Dan Rather-style defenestration…”simple error” if the teevee journo is employed by the right-wing media; “deliberate and calculated mendacity” if the teevee journo shames a Repub Prez.

  21. tgs

    The Russia phobic frenzy continues: U.S. Govt. Hackers Ready to Hit Back If Russia Tries to Disrupt Election

    U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia’s electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin’s command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News.

    So, what counts as a ‘disruption’? There is excellent coverage of this here.

    Writing at Mother Jones, David Corn suggests that Trump is not just a puppet of Putin, but has actually been cultivated as a Russian agent.

    In his interview with John Pilger, Assange says that Trump will not be permitted to win. He may be correct. And given the apparent closeness of the race, we may have a constitutional crisis next week.

    1. Oregoncharles

      Mother Jones redbaiting? What on earth have we come to?

      I’m all for disrupting the status quo, but that’s just beyond the pale.

    2. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

      Won’t need a crisis at all, they’ll watch the early results and flip a few switches to get the outcome they want, I think that’s what Assange is referring to.
      In 30 years we’ll know the gory details of how they did it, child’s play when you control the actual machines.

      1. TheCatSaid

        Let’s hope lots of people in all the states ask to see the ballot images. It could make a difference–at the very least it would reveal if tampering had occurred.

    3. Lambert Strether

      The Democrat nomenklatura have gone crazier than shithouse rats. There’s some chin-stroking going on in the less virulently militarist portions of the liberal press about whether the Clintonites really believe the line they’re peddling on history’s other greatest monster, Putin. They not only believe it, they’re invested in it, and they’ve induced their base to believe in it. Wonderfully clarifying.

  22. John k

    Trump is a totally uncouth standard bearer for the educated revolutionary.
    But we tried the gentleman…
    I suppose the guy that led the storming of the Bastille was not particularly couth…
    And likely the uncouth crowd behind him were not united on all positions…
    Today’s upper third are only partly motivated by greed, there’s a measure of fear, too. Think of those watching that uncouth crowd approach on that day, they were waving pitchforks, not flags.

    1. craazyman

      fuk what a travesty. I can’t believe they’d conflate the RS rape lie with picture of Hulk Hogan and Erin Andrews private parts on the internet.

      Oh man. I hope the Frat Boys at UVa stick RS for $35 million. RS deserves no less a spanking. What an absolutely sadistic debacle of lies, hubris, personal ambition, Jungian shadow projection, ethical derilicton (I don’t think I spelled that rite). It’s only through blind luck that innocents didn’t end up maliciously prosecuted, physically attacked and/or murdered.

      This is what people hate about “East Coast Liberuls” — they inhale the perfume of their own supposed virtue, get intoxicated and lose all control over their psychic dimensions, reshape reality in their own delusional projections, and then kill whoever tries to stop them, all the while believing their doing doing “God’s work.”

      Well, I guess you could say that about alot of lunatics. Not just East Coast Liberuls. Nobody really took Freud or Jung seriously, or certainly not James Frazer or the other cultural anthropologists. Nobody really did. People think “oh well, that’s the “savage mind, it’s not my mind”. Really?

      At any rate, I hope Trump wins. That’s how bad it’s gotten. To be honest, I gave Sanders $200 or $300, I forgot.

      Tell your Mom not to worry about your skin color. Really. Nobody cares. I certainly don’t care and I don’t know anybody in my life who does. The people who do are a lot fewer than one would suppose and their mostly nutjobs. Of course, I’m a cool New Yoarker. I’m so cool I can give money to Sanders and then vote for Trump — although I won’t actually vote because I ‘m too lazy.

      I’ll be at work on Tuesday studying something mathematical. Then I’ll go home and drink some wine and watch Lana Del Ray videos on Youtube.

      Lord Have Mercy on Humanity. I guess if the Lord did we wouldn’t be so fukked up. right? Don’t answer! LOL

      1. St Jacques

        Please vote Craazy, pleeeease get off your ass just this once and blow that Trumpet hard man! It’s the only sure way to bury TPP, TTIP and TISA,. You know that Clunton is just going to bring them in through the back door under new names when everyone has forgotten them. And who knows? Maybe Trump might go to Iceland to learn how they dealt with the banks and the banksters and he might, maybe, just maybe he might even send some experts to Europe to study how they make their health care systems work, one of the things the Europeans actually do well. Who knows?

        1. ChiGal in Carolina

          is this sarc? Clinton will bring them right through the front door under the same names without further delay. And Trump is no sure way to bury anything, except maybe your head in the sand

          1. St Jacques

            We live in a paradoxical world. Trump carries no ideological baggage, which is the advantage of his narcissism. He wants to be remembered as the man who Made America Great Again. Or he may ignore everything sensible and renege on his trade pact destruction promises. So what? Then it will be time for the pitchforks. But you know what your getting with Clunton and her elitist sociopathic friends in Wall St. BTW a Trump win will force a Democrat introspection and rebuild.

            1. JTMcPhee

              “force introspection and rebuild”? I esriously doubt it. Rice bowls, my friend, and tribal commitment or whatever the phenom that turns supposedly smart people into OboHillbots is labeled by psychologists …

        2. craazyman

          Laying on the guilt trip huh? ;-)

          I feel guilty. I do. I’ve been a New Yorke-re for a long time and I never thought much one way or the other about Mr. Trump — but I do believe alot of people have a sort of Nietschean guilt at the idea of Trump as an UberMench.

          I think the allegations of racism are totally bunk. Total shadow projection. I got a kick out of Dave Chapele’s riff that I saw on the internet. Evidently he’ll be hosting SNL soon.

          But sadly for me,. I’ll be too lazy. It’s pretty bad, how lazy it gets. I feel guilty. I feel like I’m not a complete citizen, and that’s probably because it’s an accurate self-assessment. Frankly I’m utterly useless from a social perspective. But I did serve jury duty this week and I was going to write aa long post about it, but even there I was too lazy to type out all my thoughts, which were blooming in my mind like a garden by Odilon Redon. If anybody know ho he is. At any rate, if I can stop drinking wine and get some animation going I’ll type them down. It was only one day. That was pretty good because I thought it would be a week or more

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            OK then no more political postings allowed for you craazy. “People complain about the weather but nobody does anything about it” but you have a chance to put a tiny little ice crystal up in the clouds so if you don’t do it then you lose your right to moan and complain about the lack of rain

          2. TheCatSaid

            The art made me smile Thank you for brightening my day!

            I’m with Jacques re: voting–whoever you vote for. The other races are important, too. At the local levels we can make the biggest difference, fastest.

  23. RudyM

    Proposal To Allow First-Year Resident Physicians To Work 28 Hours In A Row Puts Residents, Patients, Public At Risk Of Serious Injury, Death Public Citizen

    It has never made any sense to me that the medical profession, supposedly rooted in empirical understanding of humans as biological beings, expects aspiring doctors to perform as though they are gods rather than beings of flesh and blood.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      It’s possible that to pass MCAT, more than 28 hours straight studying is necessary.

      (And the system is set up that many gladly do it voluntarily).

      That’s in America.

      Maybe the Chinese own that particular world’s record, as well as so many others.

    2. Daryl

      It’s so bizarre. If the DOT proposed that truck drivers could work 28 consecutive hours, people would lose their shit and rightly so.

    3. Oregoncharles

      I think you’ve put your finger on an enormous problem with modern medicine – which goes far beyond new doctors.

    1. NotTimothyGeithner

      In off years, I would agree, but Hillary is the elephant in the room. The state of her campaign shapes everything. Better candidates would be swallowed by the noise of the main event.

      My general view is polls skew positive as they move from the relevant campaigns to other actors such as the first lady as people who stay on the line want affirmation and provide positive answers. Hillary’s popularity didn’t surge in 2009 as much as the people on the phone answer in the positive when they would get to Hillary. A poll about Sestak is as relevant as a poll about Prince Harry.

  24. Jeremy Grimm

    One of the other links at CounterPunch: points to a fun web tool to play with — NUKEMAP . With the tool you can target a city and select various kiloton yields, and see the degree of burns, plus the psi and ionizing radiation needed for maximum damage. You automatically get the “fireball radius,” the “radiation radius” and the “thermal radiation radius.” Lot’s of fun!

    1. temporal

      These games always miss the bigger picture probably because of our inability to predict real chaos.

      Fault lines, active volcanic areas, power plants (nuclear or other wise), large scale water or food disruptions are just some of the high yield payoffs.

    2. TheCatSaid

      I was curious to see if they’d say anything about the fact that Turkey now has its own nuclear capacity (separate from the old nukes it was storehousing at Incirlik Air Base for the USA). This was revealed in the last week by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. It was one of the things they didn’t want her to talk about. I’ve heard nothing–absolutely nothing–about this in any of the press, whether MSM, alternative, or other.

  25. temporal

    The date on a file is whatever the possessor wants it to be, easily changed. The file has no Exif tags (according to exiftags naturally enough), which can be easily changed in any event. Since the file has no tags it was probably modified. How one can say with certainty the date it was taken is beyond me. I also don’t understand how knowing that date would prove anything either.

    I looked the file in hex and didn’t see anything interesting. No appended text or encrypted tag comments. I’m going with somebody had a lot of beanie babies and powerful need to sort them by category.

  26. ChiGal in Carolina

    Yesterday morning my 87 yo mother revealed that she has been unable to sleep over her fear that Trump might win. She was a Bernie supporter and has no illusions about Hillary but now feels (in North Carolina) she needs every vote she can get.

    Though a WASP, she fears for her brown-skinned (half Tamil) children, including me, in an increasingly racist, misogynistic society.

    She views all of this as the playing out of the decline of the US empire as TPTB sacrifice the middle class to the canard of American exceptionalism. She is also aware of the inevitability of the backlash to changing demographics in this country.

    Yesterday afternoon I voted. I wrote in None of the Above. Afterward I felt a great sense of peace. I refused the little “I voted” sticker telling the lady I have never felt less celebratory about doing so.

    In the evening when I saw my mother I related my experience. She looked pained but said she didn’t want to talk about it. I expressed appreciation given how strongly she feels that she could let it go (this is a lady god bless her who can gnash her teeth over what she deems an insufficient quantity of vegetables at dinner). She simply said she understands my reasons and I am entitled to my vote.

    The real tragedy of this election is how incredibly sad it is.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      I fear for all seniors, adults and children of all colors, everywhere, here or Syria, if they are not in the 0.01%.

    2. Jeremy Grimm

      Have no fears from this quarter! Trump or Hillary I stand with our immigrants new and old and stand firmly against the forces which would bring in more immigrants to bring down wages AND not against immigrants who come here seeking better lives for whatever reason. I am most confident i am not alone in this stance.

    3. uncle tungsten

      Incredibly sad +10, you got it. Every time I see an image of Bernie or hear his voice I measure the enormity of the loss. There will be another Bernie in 4 years and maybe a new means of broadcasting the story regardless of the MSM stitch up. All of our futures are linked to the recovery of the USA’s soul in one way or another.

  27. pricklyone

    Since no one has commented on “Bridgegate”, I will.
    Why does the WSJ call Bridget Kelly a “former ally” of Christie? She was employed by Christie. His deputy, as it were. Not some political crony, his employee(although technically employed by NJ). She takes her orders from him, she doesn’t “ally” with anyone.
    My 2 cents, and probably worth half.

  28. Foppe

    My intuition was that the story was likely to get picked up by other news sources. After all, the tool facilitated people’s ability to read and understand the content of these emails, and the connections of the people involved in them. But I was wrong—it has been nearly a week since we released the project and no other major news source has picked up the story, despite having been viewed by more than 300,000 people in less than a week.

    A few days later, outside my lab, a member of a neighboring research group called me a “Trump supporter” and told me that I should have only made that site available if it also included Trump’s emails. I told him that I would be happy to include them, but I had no access to the data. In haste, this colleague began emailing me news articles, none of which provided access to the alleged public dataset of Trump emails.

    Later, a friend of one of my students posted the news on Reddit, where it went viral. And I mean really viral. It became the top story of the Internetisbeautiful subreddit, and made it to Reddit’s front page. It collected more than 3,000 upvotes and 700 comments. But as the story peaked, a moderator single-handedly removed it in an authoritarian move, and justified this unilateral silencing of the post by adding a rule banning “sites that serve a political agenda or that otherwise induce drama.” Of course, the rule was added AFTER the post was removed.

      1. Daryl

        “Subreddits” are run by moderators who are essentially random people. There are absolutely no standards for behavior and they range from some of the better moderated internet forums I have participated in to total nightmares.

    1. hunkerdown

      Those MIT kids just can’t accept that exclusionary rights in intellectual property cut both ways.

    2. TheCatSaid

      That is an amazing resource. I didn’t find the original one for the emails, but when I went to the main website link for this data visualization, “The Observatory of Economic Complexity”, I clicked on a specific country and looked at the exports. It is amazing! The big picture and the details are both there. It is revealing. Lots of fascinating categories.

      You could spend a few minutes looking at one of these and learn a lot.

  29. Oregoncharles

    “Early Voting Data Shows Who’s Turning Out Wall Street Journal”
    Didn’t breach the paywall, but this exemplifies a pet peeve: I think early voting tells us NOTHING, except that early voting is catching on and the way we vote is changing. Skews in the population voting early also mean little – we would expect some to adopt it faster than others.

    Just as a matter of common sense, I would expect the undecided to vote with the procrastinators (I meant to vote early, but haven’t yet, so it’ll probably be Monday. Have to convince 2 other family members, hence just as ornery as I am, to fill out the forms. And I’ve been decided all along.) That means it’s still worthwhile to campaign, even if a lot of people have already voted.

  30. Plenue

    >More U.S. middle school students dying of suicide than car crashes Reuters

    Fallout from the rise of standardized testing?

    1. fresno dan

      November 5, 2016 at 4:39 pm
      Thanks for that!

      “What we do know is that three governments have given to the Clinton Foundation Endowment without any specified goal.”

      OH, there was a goal….

      1. Jeremy Grimm

        Woe, woe … woe had I but money enough … I too — might enjoy the benefaction of the Clinton Foundation.

  31. alex morfesis

    less than 88 hours 2 freedumb…time to make the donuts…soon we will be able to narrow what we complain about…

  32. Waldenpond

    BS supporter @ BS for HC event. [College speaker calls out Hillary Clinton at her own rally]

    BS is speaking but it’s for HC so I do wonder why Sanders supporters are allowed at Clinton events. Of course they have someone standing by to kick people out but the message is already sent.

    I also don’t understand the WA and CA delegates declaring they won’t cast their vote on behalf of Clinton. They’ll just be stripped and someone else installed that will.

  33. Cry Shop

    “Melania Trump was paid for modeling jobs before gaining work visa, records show” Guardian

    Um, Bill & Hillary, both Bushes, and many others in high places of power ignored work visa and tax laws in China, Hong Kong, Singapore and probably many other places, when they made speeches for money. Of course at that level of the oligarchy, everyone closes their eyes and ignores what’s going down for their mutual benefit.

  34. Lambert Strether

    Reading down through today’s comments, I had to rip out another “Gee, I don’t have any provenance or evidence or links, but it sure seems weird“-type thread on Podesta, walnuts, and crisis actors coded language.

    If anybody’s in any doubt on policy on this matter, see Yves here if you haven’t read me here.

    No responses necessary or desired.

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