WordPress Woes Posted on December 1, 2014 by Yves Smith Dear patient readers, I lost three hours of work on an important post thanks to a WordPress issue. It is now 4:30 AM and I am extremely upset. I am putting up two cross posts and turning in. Apologies. Post navigation ← Inequality Is Bad For Income Growth Of the Poor (But Not For That of the Rich) OPEC Fires First Shot In Global Oil Price War → Subscribe to Post Comments 32 comments Nell December 1, 2014 at 4:53 am You have my sympathies – I have ‘killed’ computers for less. Juhani Huopainen December 1, 2014 at 5:09 am Always write in Word, and manually save every 15 minutes to another copy (in case the doc one is writing becomes unrecoverable). When finished, copypaste to web platform. I learned this the hard way, too. Yves Smith Post authorDecember 1, 2014 at 5:28 am Composing in Word for the Mac does not work well for transfer to WordPress (largely because Word for the Mac is pretty awful in general) but I appreciate the sentiment. Uahsenaa December 1, 2014 at 8:40 am Is there something like Notepad (i.e. a formatting free ascii/unicode text editor) for MacOS? It’s what I always used to compose and then would copy and paste the paragraphs into wordpress to add an formatting after the fact. ric December 1, 2014 at 9:06 am Yes. TextEdit = Notepad Albeit that TextEdit now formats by default in RTF and RTFD. But, all can be converted to ASCII. ilpalazzo December 1, 2014 at 1:06 pm I second that. I always compose any longer form forum posts in Notepad++ Schwa December 1, 2014 at 1:26 pm I compose all longer posts – even comments here – in a simple text editor, and save it to my desktop. If I find myself writing more than 3-4 sentences, I stop myself, copy and paste the text out of the web editor, and move into a Notepad++ type editor. Yves, I’m sorry the web / WordPress / etc. stinks. They definitely do. But you’ve been bitten before and need to defend yourself from Murphy. Tara December 1, 2014 at 1:43 pm I write in byword on the mac. It’s a plain text, markdown enabled editor. There are other editors geared toward bloggers that post to WP and other CMS engines. FrY10cK December 1, 2014 at 8:35 am I have never run into a task I can’t perform with LibreOffice though I’ve only used it on Win 7 and Linux. Is Blogger not an option for a blog with this many page views? Yves Smith Post authorDecember 1, 2014 at 9:58 pm We migrated off Blogger years ago. The blog was mistakenly taken down as a spam blog by Google . Normally take 2-3 weeks to get that reversed. I had a C-level contact then and so was able to get it fixed in 24 hours. No longer have that contact (he’s at another Big Tech Firm You Heard Of) and it is too risky to entrust your intellectual property to Google. Corey December 1, 2014 at 6:13 am Horrible. My sympathies. You might try a nice plain-text editor, to avoid those annoying paste-from-Word issues. Most nowadays have some default autosave feature. People seem to like iA Writer. I use nvAlt, which is free and open-source, and has a nice full-screen mode. Eric Zuesse December 1, 2014 at 6:27 am Have you tried Apple Pages instead of Microsoft Word? Pages allows easy embedding of links, and doesn’t crash often as Word does. But Pages is as stupid as Word: for example, Pages has no pagination. Yves Smith Post authorDecember 1, 2014 at 6:42 am The problem is I am insanely time constrained, so any migration from another format over to WP involves more routine work. Even though this is a three hour disaster, I haven’t had a serious loss in at least six months. When you amortize three hours over six months, even a couple of minutes a post adds up to more time. Frankly just copying and pasting into a Sticky is as efficient a backup. I got an error message when uploading a document, and I didn’t recognize that as a warning. I tried saving, which also failed and led to the data loss. If I had recognized the upload problem as trouble and had saved my work outside of WP, I would have been OK. Winston Smith December 1, 2014 at 10:50 am If you’re typing directly into a web form, you might find the Lazarus Form Recovery addon useful. It’s available for Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. It automatically backs up the form text as you enter it. If you have a crash or other malfunction, you can click on an icon to recover the text. Yves Smith Post authorDecember 1, 2014 at 9:58 pm Aha, THAT IS WHAT I NEED. Thanks a ton! aliteralmind December 1, 2014 at 9:14 am I have given up directly creating and editing things on websites, not even in company contact-us forms. Too many times the page crashes, and you lose everything. The same is doubly true on phones and tablets, where the browser crashes are more frequent. (Yahoo Mail on the desktop is an exception, which reliably auto-saves to the draft folder every couple of minutes.) I do not trust WordPresses save functionality, not even in the slightest. I now compose and edit only in Sublime Text (a plain text editor on Windows, Mac, and Linux), and for my wordpress blog, I have gotten into the habit of select-all-copying in Sublime, alt-tabbing to the browser (which is a WordPress edit page), then select-all-paste, and finally tab-tab-tabbing to the wordpress “preview” button and pressing enter. I keep a permanent blog-post archive on my desktop, and it’s what I consider the “primary” copy. If I make changes in the future, I do it in my desktop copy, and then paste it back to wordpress. (And I back up my entire computer with crashplan–I don’t mess around!) As far as text editors, I love SublimeText. Although there’s a learning curve, it has excellent auto-completion features. There’s also the much simpler (Windows only) TextPad. Sorry this happened to you. — If you’re curious, here’s an example auto-completion file in Sublime: http://dpaste.com/248GAMC (So you can type “uli”, and an unordered list template is created.) More complicated/multi-line snippets can be placed in a file by themselves: http://dpaste.com/3E3MMWE (This one can be activated with, for example, “bhp”. It prints a beginning html page.) Speck Kevin Pratt December 1, 2014 at 9:48 am One option if you want to do a small investment in time is to learn markdown. It’s a way to write plain text that can easily be converted to html. A link for example, [Google](http://google.com). An addon to WordPress converts the markdown to html for you. https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-markdown/ You can write markdown in any text editor from notepad to several nifty plain text editors like iA Writer. It’s not difficult at all and easier than typing html. Markdown Basics TheraP December 1, 2014 at 10:02 am Sympathy. SYMPATHY!!! Won’t bore anyone with my own travails…. But, been there. JohnB December 1, 2014 at 10:11 am If you use Firefox, this plugin has been a lifesaver for me many times: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lazarus-form-recovery/ Might not work for what you were doing (not sure if you were putting content into a form), but invaluable for everyday Internet use (will be useful for commenters here at least :)). Lambert Strether December 1, 2014 at 8:57 pm Could be useful! paul edwards December 1, 2014 at 11:02 am If you have “pages”, perhaps you can compose in it and copy your work onto WordPress. Lambert Strether December 1, 2014 at 8:57 pm Maybe…. Banger December 1, 2014 at 11:23 am Running a WP site is a heroic task–I’m impressed y’all do as well as you do. Word, as a program, is very powerful but conceptually flawed in its basic design. Word Perfect was much better since everything was based on tags, like HTML so there was nothing in WP that couldn’t be diagnosed and the problem easily solved. I have no idea why WP lost out to Word–I was involved in transitioning the office I worked in from WP to Word (in the mid-90s and absolutely did not “get” the reason behind it. Yves Smith Post authorDecember 1, 2014 at 10:00 pm I much preferred WordPerfect and would pay a small fortune to have it again. RanDomino December 1, 2014 at 12:21 pm OpenOffice auto-saves. As does Google Docs, although Google is not in high esteem around here. Lambert Strether December 1, 2014 at 2:50 pm The site is still running slow, as some commenters have remarked. Hopefully the sysadmin has responded to mail and gone out to give it a kick. lambert strether December 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm Sorry for the outage, starting c. 2:50EST. We’re back now, c. 8:00PM. azrielle December 1, 2014 at 8:37 pm MY solution to this problem is to use a separate text editor (such as EditPadPro, or Crimson Editor), first, to compose, then plug in the results to wordpress, facebook, or whatever. Lambert Strether December 1, 2014 at 9:01 pm All comments have been moderated at of 9:00PM. If, during the outage, your comment was eaten or disappeared, it’s gone, so best to check carefully that it hasn’t shown up in some unexpected place and — after carefully copying it so you don’t lose it because the Internet is a hostile computing environment! — repost. Please be patient in case it shows up in moderation again and we have to pull it out. Thanks for your patience. readerOfTeaLeaves December 1, 2014 at 10:12 pm Glad things are back on track. Hope you and Yves get some ‘down time’ after today. OIFVet December 1, 2014 at 9:37 pm I would truly appreciate recommendations for Android browser to use on my phone. The current one simply can’t hack it following the NC upgrades. That’s what I get for being tech lazy and sticking with the basic browser, and I am enthusiastic about doing the trial and error thing to find a decent browser. Any recommendations will be extremely helpful. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell December 2, 2014 at 8:30 am Use the original WordPress, not the “improved posting experience.” Then click Preview every 5 minutes. That will save what you’ve written in a Preview file, which you can resurrect. Comments are closed. Tip Jar Please Donate or Subscribe!