Links 1/21/2020

Today marks the 10th anniversary of the Citizens United decision. The legacy of ‘Citizens United’ has been destructive. We need campaign finance reform. WaPo. I’ll say.

Ultrafast camera takes 1 trillion frames per second of transparent objects and phenomena (RM)

Newly discovered immune cell points to universal cancer treatment New Atlas (david l)

The Dognapping of the Century Medium

Living in Alan Turing’s Future New Yorker

This weird-looking pigeon is actually a drone that flies with real feathers MIT Technology Review

The biology of coffee, the world’s most popular drink The Conversation


Waste Watch

A Surge of New Plastic Is About to Hit the Planet Wired

China bans single-use plastics Treehugger

Indonesian Flood Victims Launch Suit Vs. Government Climate Liability News


Iran has been changed forever by admitting its great mistake – yet the west ignores its own deceits Independent. Robert Fisk.

The US and Iran’s perpetual almost-war is unsustainable – and will end badly Independent. Patrick Cockburn.

Who will monitor a Libya cease-fire? Deutsche Welle

Time to restore Egypt’s pivotal role in Libya Qantara

Shame: We Stood By While Saudis Helped Criminals Flee U.S. American Conservative

War on Cash

Big Brother Australia aims to ban cash spending Asia Times


A video of medics in Hazmat suits scanning plane passengers for China’s mysterious Wuhan virus is stoking fears of a global epidemic Business Insider

WHO calls for emergency meeting on new virus in China, as cases spread to health care workers Stat

China: Bungee-jumping pig stunt by theme park causes outrage Deutsche Welle

Moody’s downgrades Hong Kong’s ratings, saying its ability to govern effectively has been eroded by protests SCMP


Why India is seeking to lure rupee trading onshore FT

What Happened to India? Project Syndicate. Shashi Tharoor


Brexit: Boris Johnson suffers triple defeat in Lords as peers vote against plans to allow lower courts to overrule EU law Independent

Brexit: a matter of economics

So much for England London Review of Books. Tariq Ali.

Class Warfare

California Bill Would Raise Taxes on Corporations With Large CEO-Worker Pay Gaps Truthout

Feds allow use of opioid funds to stem meth, cocaine surge AP

The No. 1 ‘happiest country’ in the world also has one of the highest suicide rates — economists have a theory why MarketWatch


Davos says it is focusing on the climate crisis, but its billionaires and world leaders are still arriving on private jets Business Insider

Thunberg slams climate change inaction as Davos awaits Trump Agence France-Presse

‘Welp, Glad That’s Settled:’ Global Poll Finds Majority Believe Capitalism More Harmful Than Good Common Dreams

Climate Change News: Report Warns Of Green Swan Events, Calls On Central Banks To Act International Business Times


George Conway: Why Trump had to hire this legal odd couple WaPo

Here are the five Senate factions that will decide Trump’s fate Politico


One year from today, a new President will have been inaugurated and served in office for one day.

Bernie Sanders, sequestered to D.C. by President Trump’s impeachment trial, asks supporters to carry campaign Des Moines Register

Joe Biden Tried to Cut Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare for 40 Years Jacobin

‘He totally said it’ or ‘complete BS’? Sanders and Warren voters dig in Politico

Media Stupidity Is Uniting Left and Right Rolling Stone. Matt Taibbi.
The Big Loser in the Iowa Debate? CNN’s Reputation FAIR

Trump Transition

14 states, D.C. and New York City sue to stop Trump plan to slash food stamps for 700,000 unemployed people WaPo

Big Brother IS Watching You Watch

CBP Expands Facial Recognition for Global Entry Travelers Nextgov

Clearview app lets strangers find your name, info with snap of a photo, report says cnet

Ubiquitous Surveillance Cameras Are Changing Our Understanding of Human Behavior Vice

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      1. The Historian

        Perhaps you should have kept the wrong link. The actual link certainly wasn’t any more enlightening.

        Perhaps I haven’t had enough coffee yet this morning but HUH?

        “Economists from the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, the University of Warwick in England and Hamilton College in New York looked at U.S. states where there was a high rate of suicide and high quality of life. They speculated that closing the inequality gap could lead to more compare and despair among neighbors, families and coworkers.”

        And then the writer goes on to say maybe it’s age related and says some nonsense like people over 50 learn to adapt and don’t despair at their peer’s lives and that optimists live longer – so despair and unhappiness will go away if you just get past your 50th birthday and no matter what, life will be good again, except of course, if you aren’t college educated?

        So, what was the point of this article? To convince us that inequality is good and leads to longer lives?

        And what does all of this have to do with Finland?

        1. tegnost

          Justify! Justify my brothers/sisters! Lies will conceal your hidden motives and moloch will wash clean your conscience!

        2. CanCyn

          Thank you! I too had a big huh? while/after reading the article. It has nothing to do with Finland. And it is a very interesting question. I am going to do some digging. Will report back if I find anything that actually discusses Finland.
          Within the article there was a nugget about economists theorizing that closing the inequality gap would cause more comparison between people thus causing greater despair. That was another Huh? for me. Are they seriously thinking that hope in the American dream, you know that old saw that if we just work hard we all can be billionaires, is better that less inequality? Not sure I’m buying that one.

        3. lordkoos

          The thing about Finland is no mystery — more people suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) that far north.

          I’m in WA state and it affects me, I take extra vitamin D and sit in front of a light box every morning from November to March.

          1. Tom Bradford

            Yes. I, too, finished the article with a ‘what a waste of time and words”.

            The authors seemed to have set out to explain the reason for the high rate of suicide in a “happy” country in purely economic terms and failed to find one. Hence the ridiculous speculation that closing the wealth gap led to more ‘comparison’ (neighbour envy?) causing more unhappiness than being an impoverished underclass in a country with a small but obscenely wealthy ‘top tier’ – as the ethos there was that you could aspire to join that top tier by working harder.

            That Finland has long dark winters was mentioned in passing and as a non-sequitur, but as lordkoos observes this results in high levels of SAD with the inevitable consequences, and economics has nothing to do with it – except that being rich and idle means you can fly south for the winter.

            1. lordkoos

              Similarly, didn’t Sweden at one time also have a higher-than-average suicide rate? I recall reading about that quite some time ago.

              1. Carey

                Thanks for those mentions of the obvious factor of SAD for the higher suicide rates in the Nordic countries. A non-Summer stay or two there un-mystifies it, real quick..

  1. Amfortas the hippie

    Taibbi: “The transparent full-of-shitness of the corporate press reaction to Trump was probably the leading argument for his credibility. ”

    a weird anecdote from the hinterlands: I haven’t heard the weaponised insult “The Librul Media!” used in conversation since late 2015.
    this in ostensibly the reddest district in Texas(11th)
    now, it’s just “The Media” or even “Corporate Media”…even MSM.

    and! I missed this…being too busy…so forgive it has already been bandied:

    which leads to this:

    which is, of course, the real reason dems don’t want to deal with the medieval electoral machinery in any rational or substantial way.

    1. WheresOurTeddy

      It’s getting harder for anyone to deny that leftists have more reason to hate The Media than the right, and their treatment of Sanders the past 5 years (and especially the last month) leaves little to cloak their naked contempt.

      It always surprises my conservative neighbors/co-workers when they say something negative about Pelosi or the Democrats or CNN and I tell them “yeah, I hate those entities way more than you do.”

      1. inode_buddha

        Many people, it seems, have little or no concept of the Overton Window moving, let alone how far Right it has moved since (say) 1970. I shocked my most Conservative Dad when I informed him that Nixon would be considered Left-wing today because of his policies, that is how far to the Right the discourse has shifted.

        1. Massinissa

          “Negative income tax rates?! What kind of socialist would you have to be to support something like that?!”
          “Richard Nixon.”

          1. Adam Eran

            Not to mention Milton Friedman’s support for a basic income guarantee (kills the welfare bureaucracy)

            …and of course that “Kenyan socialist” Obama ruled far to the right of Nixon.

        2. LifelongLib

          A post here called Nixon “the last of the New Dealers”. Even George Wallace (condemned because he used racist rhetoric) favored expanding social security and Medicare, which would have benefited people of all races. As opposed to today’s politicians, who talk inclusiveness but favor policies that condemn millions to poverty…

          1. Adam Eran

            Noam Chomsky says Nixon was the last U.S. liberal president.

            As for race-neutral Medicare…I’m not so sure about that. When Truman proposed M4A in 1948, the Dixiecrats declined to support it because it would integrate the hospitals (and everyone knows people of color are icky).

      2. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

        Funny, Trump is roundly ridiculed by the soi-disant “left” and the soi-disant “center” when he stands at the podium and points to the press corp and calls them “fake news”.

        The constituency they play to with their Hilary apologiae, their so-called “impeachment”, their relentless war mongering, their lies and sins of omission and commission with Bernie and AOC, and their whole cloth utter fabrications like Russian collusion, seems to be shrinking into nothingness.

        If “the left” and “the right” can both agree that the press is useless (the phrase S. Bannon uses is “lazy scumbags”) then what is their function?

        The answer of course is that they are one of the pillars of our five branches of government: Executive, Legislative, Judicial, FBI/CIA, and the Press.

        But these last two have no mechanism whereby the people get a voice in who works there and how they operate. Serious design flaw that must be corrected.

  2. New Wafer Army

    The No. 1 ‘happiest country’ in the world also has one of the highest suicide rates — economists have a theory why MarketWatch

    Links to wrong website! :)

  3. Kevin C. Smith

    It has been reported that 14 medical workers who cared for a single patient infected by the new SARS-like coronavirus [2019-nCoV] have developed the infection.

    This suggests that some of the patients infected by 2019-nCoV will be “superspreaders”, as was the case with some SARS patients. The “superspreaders” were responsible for the transmission of a disproportionate share of the SARS infections.

    If there are superspreaders of 2019-nCoV, this will greatly increase the probability of a very serious public health emergency, perhaps a pandemic, and likely increase the rate at which this problem manifests itself.

      1. Wukchumni

        Siena is a real interesting place to get lost, we ate dinner down near the bottom of the upside down wedding cake looking city with a labyrinth of walled in streets that’s a maze, and ended up where we started 30 minutes later.

        It was a real up and comer, and much of the architecture dates from before the Black Death laid it low and it became less important in the scheme of things. The buildings are magnificent, as if stuck in time.

        If a similar Black Death was to rage through China, all of the buildings erected in a rush from there to modernity, might last a decade or few before lack of quality sets in.

        Of course, the same could be said in regards to our slapdash buildings, nothing is built to last.

    1. Ignacio

      “Misterious” is, for what I have read about it in Spanish media, the most common adjective associated with this reportedly new virus. As if wanting to provoke all kind of conspiranoid theories. Then, I have also read, it is suspected to be an epizootic (original from species other than human) virus. Usually, epizootias are epidemiologically limited to the animal source because they won’t spread between humans. Also, if it was an epizootia I wouldn’t expect the epicenter of the disease at a market but rather at a farm or any breeding facility. Coronaviruses are RNA viruses in which recombination plays a very important evolutionary role and I would suspect that (a very rare event) someone had a mixed infection with a human and an “epizootic” corona that resulted in one or various recombinant viral species that retained capacity for human-human spread. This person went to the market and it all started.

          1. polecat

            ‘Bats’ .. humm
            So, appears some construction bloke knocked over Another palm tree .. Whatever you do, Don’t let Babe eat a chunk of ‘pre-masticated’ batnana ! OK ??
            Tis once again time ..’cough’.. to do my annual reviewing of “CONTAGION” ..’cough, sputter, hack, COUGH !!, Wheeze ! …

            Time to play some casino GO.

        1. polecat

          Well, it’s now known that someone, who flew back very recently from China, has brought this SARS-like virus to Seattle, Wa. STATE. Oh joy !… the wonders of modern jet travel !!

      1. lordkoos

        You are assuming that the animal or animals that this originated with were domestic. The Chinese like to eat all kinds of wild animals, so it may not have originated on a farm.

        1. Ignacio

          I don’t think eating wild animals can be a zoonotic source for coronavirus unless you don’t cook then, and even if you don`t cook them. Feces is a frequent zoonotic source for these.

    2. eg

      It never fails to astonish me how invariably these stories engender hysteria whilst the flu annually goes on merrily killing more people than all of these other viruses combined …

  4. Wukchumni

    Clearview app lets strangers find your name, info with snap of a photo, report says cnet
    Hard to imagine now, but just before the turn of the century if you opted to not be listed in the phone book, you might as well have not existed, or if you declined to have your address listed with your posted phone number, then you barely existed as far as the outside world went.

    It’s par for the course in this age of extremes, where a Kodak moment by an apparazzi spills the beans about you, indecent exposure.

    1. The Rev Kev

      That could be so creepy that. So a guy snaps an image of a girl and goes up to her and say-

      “Hey, I now know your name, what you like & hate, your favourite places to eat out, your friends, what the inside of your place looks like, and where you work. How about a date?”

      1. newcatty

        Gives new meaning to an updated version of an old love song. Lyrics like: Hello, I decided to love you. I know your name. Hello, I love you I have already jumped in your game.

      2. newcatty

        A new updated version of an old love song:

        Hello I decided to love you. I know your name. Hello, I will love you I’m already jumped in your game.

    2. carycat

      Back in the day, you have to pay extra to be unlisted in the phone book (white pages), but you can put any name you want. My graduate adviser said he should list his number under N P Complete so he will know it is a cold call if somebody asks for Mr. Complete on the phone (an inside joke as his PhD was in descriptive complexity).

      1. lordkoos

        Trivia: The band Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks were once listed in the San Fransisco yellow pages under “Bar Fixtures”. :D

    3. hunkerdown

      And to think that database is probably small enough to fit on a large memory card. Related, I just watched They Live the other night. Class war? Now there’s an app for that.

  5. The Rev Kev

    “‘Welp, Glad That’s Settled:’ Global Poll Finds Majority Believe Capitalism More Harmful Than Good'”

    There is a Victims of Communism Memorial in Washington DC dedicated “to the more than one hundred million victims of communism” but I would dearly love to know the number of victims to Capitalism. Just think how many have died to irresponsible chemical poisoning alone so that some outfit could score a profit. Maybe it is time to be done with Capitalism. Start working on a new system, But first, a declaration should be made why this is necessary. Something like this-

    ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Economic Systems are instituted among People, deriving their just powers from the consent of the consumers, –That whenever any Form of Economic System becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Economic Systems, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Economic Systems long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Economic Systems, and to provide new Guards for their future security.’

    And this passage works because politics is downstream of economics.

    1. John A

      Funnily enough, last time I was in New York I saw a huge billboard with that quote about all the millions killed by communism. My immediate thought was ‘and how many more million have been killed by capitalism and imperialism’?

    2. Jef

      Just like when the die hard capitalist defend it by saying that “we have never had TRUE capitalism”, communism has never been allowed to function without the strictest economical and physical attacks that the US could muster. How many of those millions of deaths were inflicted by us? All so we can be free to get rich.

      1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

        The entire debate is sooo tiresome, because of the bucket the Hyper-Socialists (Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, Amazon, FB, Exxon, Boeing, Lockheed et alia) can toss Bernie into.

        They simply label their team as “capitalist” when *nothing* could be further from the truth.

        Count the dollars that flow from taxpayers to AMZN for example when they want to relo their HQ. Compare that to the dollars that flow from AMZN to tax coffers (hint: <= zero).

        Count the dollars that go from taxpayers to subsidize fossil fuels. *Less* than the dollars that flow from taxpayers (fed'l level) to education.

        Count the dollars that have flowed from the Fed to banks, the GAO said the number so far is +/- $29 *trillion*. For those paying attention, the Fed is currently pondering a stealth Hyper-Socialist bailout for…wait for it…*hedge funds*. I can't seem to recall any TARP-style hearings on that. Hank Paulson on his knees in Nancy Pelosi's office? That's sooo 2009. We got the "repo" excuse now, what's a few hundred billion between friends?

        Bernie is a fish in a barrel with this framing of the argument.

    3. mpalomar

      “Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it’s just the opposite.” … or something to that effect -JK Galbraith
      Still all in all an economic system whose dogmatic underpinning forfeits the agency of society to plan and relies instead on the market place ouija board for outcomes that have, among other horrors, proceeded to burn down the planet, is bound to lose some considerable credibility.

  6. JohnnySacks

    Pigeon shaped drones, developed at Stanford. What could their target market be? Wonder what’s the explosive carrying capacity of a fully laden American drone swallow?

    1. The Rev Kev

      Good think that you said an American one, JohnnySacks. Otherwise I would be wondering if it would be a European or African variety.

      1. Massinissa

        I was about to point out that Blue Sky Studios was the company that produced that film rather than Disney, only to remember that Disney, in its great quest to own all producers of films, now also owns Blue Sky Studios…

  7. bassmule

    Re: Biden Tried To Cut Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare for 40 Years

    Krugman takes a swipe at Sanders for lying about Biden’s record. (NYT)

    Nobody’s buying. From the comments:

    “…everyone seems to ignore that Biden didn’t spend his time passively and meekly drifting along with “conventional wisdom”: throughout his career he passionately and vocally argued in favor of/championed things like the bankruptcy bill and the crime bill and the Iraq War and cutting Social Security. On SS, his idea of a total freeze on government spending was so ludicrous that even Republicans didn’t support it, yet he bragged about how he pushed it close to a half dozen times, never seeming to realize that the idea failed on it’s substance and not on his lack of persuasion.

    It’s concerning that he was so steadfast in his wrong ideas and his current change of heart is much less convincing based on that attitude. I have no problem with compromise, but I do not believe that Joe Biden is the savvy negotiator that he claims to be. He has a long track record of getting rolled in the name of compromise and I would expect the same thing to happen now, especially because he thinks he’ll have “reasonable Republicans” to work with upon election. He’ll give away the farm for a handful of seed, all in the name of “getting things done”.

    1. chuckster

      Sorry. Bernie is dead to me. If you don’t want to win, why run?

      “Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders marched together in a Martin Luther King parade Monday morning in a show that they put their recent contretemps behind them.

      “But by evening, Sanders was offering an apology to another Democratic rival: Joe Biden.

      “Sanders apologized for an op-ed penned by a surrogate alleging Biden had “a big corruption problem.”

      “Whether or not Biden is making choices to please donors, there is no doubt his record represents the transactional, grossly corrupt culture in Washington that long precedes Trump,” wrote Zephyr Teachout, a progressive law professor.’

      “Sanders told CBS News: “It is absolutely not my view that Joe Biden is corrupt in any way. And I’m sorry that that op-ed appeared.”

      1. grayslady

        Why would you believe anything emanating from Politico? You are falling for the Politico narrative rather than using critical thinking. To begin with, yesterday was all about honoring MLK. Do you really think Bernie is the type to detract from that occasion by calling attention to what he thinks of Warren? If he had made a point of snubbing Warren, what do you think the press would have made of his behavior? There would have been headlines about Bernie trying to call attention to himself and detract from the ceremony. I guarantee it.

        As for Bernie saying he doesn’t believe Biden is corrupt, what is he supposed to say while an impeachment is proceeding based on Trump being corrupt? The DC Dems have been desperate not to have Biden grilled as part of the impeachment hearings. Do you want the Repubs to say that they have to call Biden because even Bernie thinks Joe is corrupt? Because that’s exactly what would happen. We all know Trump is not going to be convicted, so why should Bernie set himself up as the scapegoat for the ultimate impeachment failure? Bernie is smarter than that.

        1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

          What, precisely, do you think the popularity or credibility the crime-less “impeachment” circus currently under way has with, you know, actual people? (Hint: it is below improved pet licensing in the list of people’s top issues).

          And remind me who and what Bernie is running against? Whatever your answer, Biden is *the poster child* for it.

          Successful leaders *successfully identify the problem* and then present solutions. Lancing the boil that is the Democratic Party establishment is the problem. Troops are amassing for that civil war and the sooner General Bernie *gets his cannons facing the right way* the better. Or should he *wait until after the primary* so he can join up with the legless starving soldiers from The Biden Divisions, ready to be scythed through by the simplest of Trump logic and association?

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            Is Bernie the vanguard of the proletariat and the tireless soldier and general of the badly-needed revolution…or is he…just a politician?

            I have nothing but respect and admiration for the man but it seems he is the latter and we badly badly need the former.

            1. Carey

              Sanders is being asked to do at close to eighty what a energetic
              and savvy forty-year-old would have a very tough time doing.

              Kudos to Senator Bernie Sanders: we should strive to deserve him.

      2. lordkoos

        Bernie has to be nice — whether he wins or stays in the senate, he has to work with some of these people.

        1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

          Neville Chamberlain, heading to Berlin in 1938, had a similar strategy. Let me know how that worked out.

          The right: rips your arm off and beats you with the bloody stump.

          The left: when they have finished digging the hole, they politely ask if it’s time to climb in and get machine gunned.

          When they lose, again, they can all have a group hug, go on TV and sit in Oprah’s/Joy’s/Ellen’s/Rachel’s lap and say “Mommy that bad man said mean things to me…”.

          “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both”. – Frederick Douglas

          1. lordkoos

            I’m not sure that Chamberlain vs Hitler is an apt comparison. I’m not saying Sanders will compromise, but that he is trying to be civil. Obama was the guy who liked to compromise…

        2. Grant

          They don’t care about anyone but themselves, and anything but them maintaining power and the access to money that it brings. Bernie has said that if anyone takes money from large donors and stands in the way of progress, which they have done for decades (ESPECIALLY Biden), then he will support primary challengers against them. Who cares if they like him or not, most Republicans don’t like Trump but they back him. The question is whether they fear Bernie and the left more broadly. Until they do, until they feel their power is in the balance, they will continue to be the biggest obstacles to the changes we need. Bernie knows this, but maybe he feels that others should say what he believes and he himself can keep a distance. Basically, what Warren would have done in her ridiculous attacks against him if she had at least okay political instincts. It gets tiring though having, every primary, to walk Democratic primary voters back from their natural inclination, which is to choose the worst candidates possible. We can’t point out that Biden is corrupt, even if he clearly is, because people that seem unwilling to accept objective reality. Biden’s record is horrible, and he outright lies about his record. And people polled look at this spectacle and the possibility of a Biden nomination in a positive light. It’s mind blowing and depressing. Shame that Bernie and the left have to operate in that party.

      3. Skip Intro

        Bernie’s apology just gives the Teachout editorial a second wind. He also retweeted Trump explaining that the impeachment was meant to screw Bernie in the primary again, only to repudiate the tweet. He knows he was spreading the tweet, but by repudiating it he has cover…

        1. The Rev Kev

          Still, Bernie apologizing so much is sounding very much like the Corbyn tactic. How did that work out? Next we will hear him saying ‘Elizabeth Warren is a decent person. She is a friend of mine. People like her. And we’re not going to make personal attacks on Elizabeth Warren.’

          1. Skip Intro

            Believe me, I understand how you feel, but Bernie’s ability to put aside ego and focus on the goal is one of his core strengths, IMHO. Thus it is disappointing, if understandable, when his strongest supporters on twitter et al., criticize him for one of his strengths… or make it look like a weakness.

            If anyone is owed an apology, it is Zephyr Teachout, who has been cast as a mere campaign surrogate, when she is really an important academic expert on the topic… she wrote the damn book. So a significant, well-researched article is treated like a mere volley in a primary.
            OTOH, her piece would not be news. Bernie apologizing for it makes it sound interesting, if not salacious. How many more eyes were led to the article by this episode? No one who reads it will mistake it for a fluff hit piece. Its message will be involuntarily amplified by the anti-Bernie echo chamber.

            1. Skip Intro

              The above is not intended to tone police the NC commentariat, despite how it sorta reads…

  8. Wukchumni

    I am woman, Amy Klobuchar
    With an endorsement too big to ignore
    And I know the Gray Lady would never pretend
    ‘Cause I’ve heard it all before
    And I’ve been down there on the floor
    No one’s ever gonna keep me there again

    Oh yes, I am wise
    But it’s wisdom born of pain
    Yes, I’ve paid the Midwest Nice price
    But look how much I gained
    If I have to, a forced smile can do anything
    I am strong
    I am invincible
    I am woman

    1. chuckster

      Even her theme song is boring. Can you imagine a Klobuchar-Trump debate? The Donald could line the front row with all her ex-staffers who would sit there behind a plexi-glass screen (in case she gets mad) while eating Chinese food with combs. Game over.

    2. Jonathan Holland Becnel

      South Park nailed it in an episode entitled ‘Strong Woman’ about Macho Man Randy Savage. By Jove, yall should check it out!

  9. Wukchumni

    The Dognapping of the Century Medium

    What a tail!

    Circa 1972 just before our annual summer sojourn to Sequoia NP, this collar-less dog shows up in our neighborhood, way friendly and we bond with it immediately and ask mom & dad if we can take it on vacation, and they’re cool with the arrangement, and I mean to tell you this is the best dog ever, a quick study who can play fetch or dead, and so adoring to us, it’s kismet and smiles all around, that is until we get home 10 days later and there’s missing dog signs all over the neighborhood, and our purloined pooch was the object of their desire. Whoops.

    1. jefemt

      Charismatic macrofaunal just wanted to go on a happy family vacation! Summers can be sooooo long!

      No harm, no foul…

    2. John A

      Killing them Softly, a film I thought was great and someone linked to the ending of it last week, with Obama’s hollow speech, opens with a couple of losers dogknapping for a living.

  10. cm

    Original story about Saudi govt helping Saudi criminals flee the US here.

    The FBI believes the Saudi Arabian government “almost certainly” helps its citizens flee the country after they are accused of serious crimes, “undermining the US judicial process,” according to a newly declassified document obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive.

    The surreptitious action is done, in part, to spare the wealthy Persian Gulf kingdom embarrassment, the FBI said. Intelligence officials believe the flights from justice will continue without intervention by the American authorities.

    Saudi officials “are unlikely to alter this practice in the near term unless the US Government directly addresses this issue with (Saudi Arabia) and ties US cooperation on (Saudi) priorities to ceasing this activity,” according to the FBI.

    The details are contained in an intelligence bulletin dated Aug. 29. The FBI released the document Friday as part of a recent law pushed by U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and signed by President Donald Trump last month that requires the FBI to publicly disclose what it knows about the Saudi government’s suspected role in helping its citizens avoid prosecution in the U.S.

    Unfortunately, Portland State University is apparently a go-to spot for loser Saudis who can’t get into a better school.

    One also wonders why the US deported the Saudi air force personnel found to be in possession of child pornography, rather than prosecute them.

    1. Katniss Everdeen

      You have to wonder what “practice” saudi officials are “unlikely to alter.” WTF do they do–send in the saudi seal team 6 to extract the accused under cover of darkness in a helicopter gunship?

      The situation IS very disappointing, however. I, for one, was looking forward to stapling a green card to every one of their Portland State diplomas so that they could start businesses that grow our economy because normal americans aren’t good enough or smart enough to do it themselves. Hopefully they can come back once all the obviously prejudiced, racist, xenophobic furor dies down.

      1. Monty

        They fly them out on diplomatic jets. Just like the US did for Anne Sacoolas after she killed the kid Harry Dunn in England last year.

        Laws for thee, impunity for me!

        1. lordkoos

          Just as they did with expat members of the Bin Laden family after 911 – they were whisked out of the USA ASAP. Normally when there is a crime, don’t the authorities like to question the family?

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            If you ask “what was Bin Laden’s father doing at Bush’s ranch *right before 9/11*…well then now you’re asking the right question pilgrim…

  11. The Rev Kev

    “The Dognapping of the Century”

    For some reason, when I was reading this, I was trying to imagine what happened when Taylor went to see Elizabeth Barrett and she would be saying to him-

    ‘I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don’t have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my dog go now, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will pay you.’

    1. Wukchumni

      A few of the players in another tale of dognapping…

      Josef Švejk:

      The novel’s hero: in civilian life a dealer in stolen dogs. Based partly on František Strašlipka, the young batman to Oberleutnant Rudolf Lukas, Hašek’s company commander

      Police Agent Bretschneider:

      A secret policeman who repeatedly tries to catch Švejk and others out on their anti-monarchist views. He is eventually eaten by his own dogs, after buying a succession of animals from Švejk in an attempt to incriminate him.

  12. timbers

    Bernie Sanders lied because he looks like a turtle? Is there a turtle lobby in Washington? I hope they can get some air time and denounce this homo sapiene prejudice against reptiles and demand Joy Reid’s resignation. Or promotion.

    I think we need a body language expert to analyze Joe Reid. I have no doubt in my mind the language expert will confirm what I’ve known for years now:

    Joy Reid is really Osama Bin Laden.

    Bin Laden was never really killed, that was just a staged event for obvious political reasons. So he had to continue his work with a new identity, which is Joy Reid. And BTW I had lunch with him/her yesterday and he/she told me a woman can not be elected President.

    But then, that’s just an opinion, so what difference does it make?

    1. The Rev Kev

      Bernie Sanders looks like a turtle? That can’t be right. I am sure that they mean Senator Mitch McConnell instead.

      1. timbers

        There you go, reptile prejudice is problem not confined to just one party. It affects every party!

        1. Wukchumni

          If it came down to Donald ‘Hare Furor’ Trump vs Bernie ‘Turn Turtle’ Sanders, doesn’t the tortoise eventually win after the hare went napping?

      2. Carey

        Sanders *does* have bad (sitting-disease, worse than most) posture. Too late now, but his honesty shines through, even to those who aren’t fans, and (pleasingly) it annoys the f*ck out of them. Good…

    1. tegnost

      OMG she is going to get in the race. What a despicable person. If she hadn’t been such a sore loser she could be in the debates trying to convince people that she has some good ideas about how to run the country. Oh wait…Trump Trump Trump turns into Russia Russia Russia turns into Sanders Sanders Sanders. Policies? “Only rich people get chocolate milk!” might not work so well, not surprised she’s waiting for the end of all that “what do you stand for” stuff to be done before she gets in.

      1. voteforno6

        I’m sure she would love to, but the only way that happens is if this goes to a brokered convention. Running a campaign for President in the U.S. is a long and arduous process, and there’s no way she would be able to put any kind of infrastructure together at such a late date, let alone qualify for the ballot in enough primary states. If no one gets a majority on the first ballot, though, this could get really fun.

    2. ambrit

      The Hillary Hagiography continues.
      It doesn’t really matter how true the gender based complaints Hillary enunciates are. In politics, one needs must deal with conditions on the ground, not some ideal fabulation of what a ‘just’ society should be like. Yes, the gender gap exists. However, if one wants to gain power, that cannot be the sole strategy employed in pursuit of that goal. There are a lot of “un-woke” people ‘out there.’ They have to be catered to as well to get that winning coalition. Otherwise, one is left with some form of authoritarianism as a guiding principle.
      I still see HRH HRC as a “Unity Candidate” arising out of the smoke filled back rooms of a brokered Democrat Convention this year.

      1. inode_buddha

        So… the DNC nominates Clinton somehow while an emasculated Sanders rages on the sidelines of a sham impeachment trial.

        Amidst sharply increasing political and economic unrest, Trump wins again. The Former Democrat party disappears into the dustbin of history much like the Whigs of yore. Four years later, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez Runs for Prez, using Sander’s network, assistance, methods, and platform.

        She will *just* slide under the age limit by the time the Primaries. She wins in a landslide; the establishment (and media) is aghast. Because this is a movement, not an election. Not me, Us.

        And those voters who wanted a woman for Prez finally get their wish.

        Well, I can see it happening anyway. I could be totally bonkers of course.

        1. ambrit

          Nowhere near as bonkers as the Professional Political Class of America.
          To the contrary, you have your feet solidly on the ground.
          Using your idea, we want the ‘screwing’ of Sanders to be as blatant and as despicable as possible. Stoke up those fires of Righteous Indignation!
          I wonder just how long a ‘game’ Sanders is playing? I might be underestimating him.

    3. Henry Moon Pie

      “No one likes him.”

      Overheard at the cool kids’ table with reference to the uppity working class kid running for president of the student council.

      Given the quality of our elites as revealed in that NYT ed board video with Bernie, the machinations of CNN and this latest Clinton insanity, I am continually amazed the world makes it from one day to the next. One thing’s for sure: it’s the world getting itself from yesterday to today in spite of these people, not because of them.

      1. Pat

        So let me get this straight. She says this about the most popular politician in Congress. (Considering how unpopular Congress is, this is admittedly not a huge smash of the ‘nobody likes him’ meme, but still Clinton never managed it.) And as a gauge of how likable Clinton is, I like to remember that 2016 was remarkable for how disliked BOTH major political party candidates for President were.

        One of the comments on a Yahoo cut out about this has one man saying that “Clinton disliking him this much has convinced me to vote for him.” This is the most appropriate response to this, I can only hope others realize it.

        1. Henry Moon Pie

          She’s not talking about people in general. Clinton means that “nobody likes him” in her crowd, and it’s little wonder. Bernie’s career in politics provides a powerful contrast to the Clintons and their hangers-on, and his description of our current political situation is a direct indictment of them without his naming names.

            1. Arizona Slim

              Hmmm, that reminds me of something. Oh, I know what. That invitation to my high school reunion.

              This year, the cool kidz have decided to have the reunion at some generic hotel/conference center that isn’t even in the same town — or county — as the school district we graduated from.

              Not only that, it’s being combined with the same class from one of the district’s other two high schools. (Sounds like they’ve been having attendance problems.)

              Oh, this reunion is being planned for early November. Not the greatest travel weather, especially when you’re talking about Pennsylvania. (Why couldn’t they hold this festive event during the summer months?)

              Me? I had the temerity to ask about the timing and the location. Not a word in their response about the timing. But the location? That, the cool kidz say, is due to convenience.

              So, yeah, I get what you’re talking about when it comes to the cool kids. They may act like they’re cool, but they’re not the most clued-in people on the planet.

              1. newcatty

                Relate so much. Loved ignoring the old cool kids when I got my first high school reunion invitation to my class reunion so Many years ago. It was offered through the hard work and enterprise of a wannabe cool kids couple. They were among the few “high school sweethearts” that evidently became husband and wife. I could just imagie the “real” cool kids laughing as the wanna bees did all the main work to organize the thrilling reunion. Real cool kids would make their cool entrances into the room and graciously give their hellos and accept sad and envious adolation from the peasants. A few of the outsiders, now mostly successful and some happily in relationships, would watch from sidelines with amusement. If cool kids try to corner them out of curiosity or to give them A business card, the outsiders would make a quick escape.

                It is time for outsiders to control the narrative. I will join Bernie to lead the way. The country doesn’t need a reunion of the old, depraved student council, football players, cheerleaders and legacy wealthy kids.

                1. Arizona Slim

                  Watching from the sidelines? Oh, brother. Here’s a story from the Arizona Slim File:

                  This past summer, I was back in PA for what turned out to be my mother’s final weeks on this earth. During her second trip to the hospital, the doctors and I agreed (finally!) that it was time to sign Mom into hospice.

                  For several weeks, I had been trying to get this point across, but I wasn’t succeeding.

                  Any-hoo, the hospice’s admission nurse was an old neighbor and classmate. Y’know, from the one that’s planning a reunion for this fall.

                  Hospice admission nurse was one of the cool kids. To the point where she was voted the girl most likely to succeed.

                  She went to the reunion previous to the one that’s in the works right now. Her recollection: A very strange evening. She spent it leaning against the wall while chatting with a male classmate.

                  Glad I didn’t waste the time and airfare on that event.

          1. lordkoos

            The only people she interacts with are politicians, fixers, media elites, the 1%, etc. And maybe her chauffeur and cook.

        2. jrs

          Well he’s popular with voters: with many due to his positions, some due to his personality, with some who don’t entirely agree just due to the consistency of his positions, his integrity. But they are evaluating him as a political figure.

          However he is maybe not good with small talk and whatever else makes you “popular” around the office, so to speak, where your integrity and effectiveness as a politician is not the gauge.

          And Hillary well, she lost to Trump, she lost to Donald #@$# Trump … and that’s how she is going to go down in history.

    4. urblintz

      “He was in Congress for years,” she says of Sanders in the documentary, per an interview with THR published Tuesday. “He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It’s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.”

      Hillary Clinton is a horrible person.

      1. ambrit

        We might know that Hillary is a horrible person, but there are a lot out there who consider her the ‘Second Coming’ of Bill.
        I suspect that this entire public relations campaign is aimed at nascent Democrat Party Convention delegates.
        America Needs Two Mommies! Hillary/XX 2020! Etc. ad nauseam.

        1. inode_buddha

          The “Second coming” of Bill is exactly the reason why she is so horrible. Having lived through the first one, the Real Bill, no, I don’t want any more, thankyouverymuch.

          1. ambrit

            As is said in court in reference to insufficient evidence; the Real Bill is really No True Bill. Void of substance.

          1. Wukchumni

            Is this a nomination which I see before me,
            Most votes in the land? let me clutch thee.
            I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
            Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible
            To feeling as to slight? or art thou but
            A dagger of the mind, a false creation,
            Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?
            I see thee yet, in form as palpable
            As this which now I draw.

      2. Katniss Everdeen

        “Nobody likes him…….”

        Haven’t seen the documentary, but I’m told that in another part, hillz details her reconciliation with former BFF liz warren. The rift occurred when warren made cheerleading and hillz did not. The judges apparently deemed liz more “peppy.”

        When liz asked hillz to sign her yearbook at graduation, hillz magnanimously wrote:

        Remember Grant,

        Remember Lee.

        The heck with them,

        Remember ME.

        Quite heartwarming actually.

      3. RopeADope

        When Clinton says “Nobody likes him” she means no one that partied with Jeffery Epstein likes him.

        1. Arizona Slim

          If I were Bernie, I think I’d strike up the band and starting singing this ditty that I remember so well. This one’s from scout camp:

          Nobody likes me!
          Everybody hates me!
          I’m gonna go out and eat worms!

      4. Toshiro_Mifune

        “He was in Congress for years,” she says of Sanders in the documentary…. “he got nothing done”.

        You mean he didn’t help start the war in Iraq, or vote for the Wall St bailouts, or deregulate the banking industry….. Here we have the evidence she still doesn’t get it.

        1. Massinissa

          He also didn’t help Obama blow up Libya. Thanks Hillary, you accomplished SO MUCH as Secretary of State!

          “We Came, We Saw, He Died!” *giggles*

          1. heresy101

            She is “Secretary Slaveauction” whenever I see her name.

            First, the “We Came, We Saw, He Died!” *giggles* comes to mind.

            Second, comes the UN descriptions of the slave auctions now occurring in Libya.

            She has accomplished so much!!!

          2. neighbor7

            As disgusting as “We tortured some folks” and Dubya mugging while looking under his chair for WMD. Who are these cretinous children??

    5. Amfortas the hippie

      smug and petty, so self-righteous she seems to think she both deserves it, and that her parachuting in will be welcomed by the grateful masses.
      wouldn’t matter to me if she were a man…or black…or gay…
      it’s the behaviour and the pitiless self regard, the delusional pretension and the totalising narcissism.
      pretty much everything she…and her flying monkeys…threw at trump, however deserving he was and is.
      projection is still projection.
      i’m still Bernie or bust…and will remain so…because the undead darkness of clintonism must be fought.

      so…if Herself does indeed parachute in to “save us”, it’s 4 more years of trump, met with 4 more years of the howling centrists, and….I hope!…an utter collapse of the moribund “Democratic Party”.

      what then?
      how will a new party…in opposition to the Machine…form?
      How will it gain ballot access(given how sewn up all that machinery is in D/R)? How will it get an airing, fair or not, in the media?
      the entire system is so totally corrupt and filled with perfidious hypocrisy and sycophants…and backed up by a murderous shadow government who literally keeps assassins and mercenaries on retainer.
      how does it play out if/when this terrible thing is foisted upon us once again?

      1. inode_buddha

        “how does it play out if/when this terrible thing is foisted upon us once again?”

        Per my comment above, I strongly hope and pray that AOC runs for Prez in 4 years — just making the age cutoff. Using Sanders methods and apparatus, with his blessing. And she wins, becoming the first woman Prez. *then* you will hear howling from the establishment.

        All of a sudden you will find out that what they *really* meant was “moderate, suburban white female republicans” and they will howl about it.

        At least, that is my hope and prayer for how all this turns out.

  13. The Rev Kev

    “Who will monitor a Libya cease-fire?”

    Now that is going to be a tough one. Turkey has transported about 2,400 Syrian fighters from Idlib province and you can bet that most of them are actually al-Qaeda so any foreign fore may have to deal with them. Turkey has also put in a few advisors and you can bet that they want to put their own troops in Libya. The Turkish Parliament cleared this happening a few weeks ago and they have been making noises about doing so.

    Probably find that they will take a leaf out of Trump’s playbook and put those troops in the oil fields (we’re taking the oil, we’re keeping the oil) and trying to secure their claim to take over Libya’s off-shore gas fields in the name of the “internationally recognized” government. This could turn nasty this as Turkey’s ambitions are to establish a solid presence in this country-

    1. Alex

      Btw the Turkish maritime border agreement with Libyan government creates difficulties for the Israel-Cyprus-Greece gas pipeline which is supposed to pump gas form the East Med to Europe. I wonder what would Russia do about it given (on one hand) its strong ties to Cyprus, reasonably good relationship with Israel and the support of anti-Turkish side in Libya and (on the other hand) cozy Putin-Erdogan relationship and Russia’s own gas exports to Europe.

      We certainly live in interesting times.

      1. Bill Smith

        I think that agreement will largely get ignored by the Israelis and the Europe as it is pretty far out of the normal line drawing in regard to these types of things.

        Then it will be up to Turkey to do something.

    2. David

      There is no greater predictor of disaster than sending an international military force with a vague mandate into a confused and violent situation. The only thing that might work would be a large and powerful force, able to dominate the terrain, with a strong UN mandate under Ch 7. The chances of that are pretty much zero, and it’s irresponsible of the Germans to float such ideas when their own troops, for (cough, cough) historical reasons won’t be able to take part.

      1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

        There is no greater predictor of disaster than sending an international military force with a vague mandate into a confused and violent situation.

        Couldn’t agree more. First, get the US to stop doing same.

    3. ewmayer

      May I be so bold as to suggest a cadre of eager volunteers from the Clinton Global Initiative™? A sort of “you broke it, you bought it” kind of deal.

  14. nippersdad

    I have yet to see a mention here about Hulu’s Hillary documentary (or I may have missed it), a four part series set to air just before Super Tuesday, but The Hill has a preview of it this morning, and it looks like there is a chunk of it devoted to slime basting Sanders.

    I’d do a link but am on the IPad today. No surprises here, but they really do hate him.

    1. nippersmom

      I just cancelled our Hulu subscription. I have no interest in contributing, even in a small way, to the bottom line of a company that provides a platform for the war criminal to spread her lies and hate.

    2. NotTimothyGeithner

      Sanders is about the only aspect of the election that doesn’t have Team Clinton’s finger prints all over it. From the Pied Piper strategy to simply going to the Trump and Melania “wedding”, the Clintons have pimped Trump and GOP voters in general.

      Since Mother can do no wrong, Sanders is the only aspect of the election out of her control. If they had not gone all in 2008 with the darkening of Obama’s skin and other actions, they would be out with knives for Obama too. HRC wanted to go there with her complaints about the state of state parties, but since Obama largely just returned to her husbands policies towards the health of the party that was hard too.

    3. curlydan

      Actually, a release before Super Tuesday will help Sanders IMO.

      The truth (in this case, her true feelings and hate) comes out in the long-run. I am thankful that she can unload, but if she thinks it will hurt Bernie, she’s wrong.

  15. The Rev Kev

    “Thunberg slams climate change inaction as Davos awaits Trump”

    You wonder if things will ever change at Davos. This year was the 50th meeting there and we are talking about stuff that should have been settled in their 10th annual meeting. I can just imagine the 80th meeting of the World Economic Forum in the Swiss Alps in the year 2050 when there will be still intense criticisms of the big oil companies and their lack of change. After a massive slugfest, you would have people like ExxonMobil’s Chief Executive Officer G. Thunberg come out and say: “How dare you. You have stolen my bonus!”

    1. Wukchumni

      I’m thinking of putting on Sovad next summer in the California Alps, and Kern hot springs just off the Kern River is the perfect place for the conference to adjourn for a soak. Participants have to walk 35 miles to the river’s edge including about 10,000 feet of elevation gain/loss while carrying everything needed, and money won’t buy you a thing.

      No electronic tethers of any sort will be allowed, and since you can only fit 3 people into the hot springs, meetings will be intimate.

    2. ptb

      This year was the 50th meeting there and we are talking about stuff that should have been settled in their 10th annual meeting.

      so true

  16. Wukchumni

    Climate Change News: Report Warns Of Green Swan Events, Calls On Central Banks To Act International Business Times
    I’ve seen Black Swans in Perth, so they do exist.

    Green Swans are more in the milieu of Unicorns, Abominable Snowmen or Dragons, something imagined. Although a Green Unicorn has been reportedly sighted in Silicon Valley attempting to procreate something new that we never knew we needed, nor desired.

    1. inode_buddha

      Wait, what?? What about these “investors” actually investing in the company that made them so much money? I thought this was supposed to be a capitalist country! Don’t they believe in the company?? I’m willing to bet that most if not all of these sit on the Board.

      1. Duck1

        Why don’t they sell some of the stock they bought back? I’ll go sit in the corner with the dunce cap on now.

          1. Carey

            Not really; nothing at all like the hit it should’ve taken, post-MAX, if markets™ were really markets.

            friends in high places

  17. urblintz

    I didn’t know this about Iowa:

    “The real game changer around here, though, might be Iowa State University’s decision, after years of pressure, to issue new student IDs, enabling 35,000 students to vote, even under Iowa’s restrictive new voter-ID law. That’s a progressive victory, and in a different media universe, it would be a story even juicier than a handshake.” Iowa is not the Twittersphere – Laura Flanders

      1. Late Introvert

        ISU draws the most conservative portion of Iowa’s youth, it’s an Ag school after all. Don’t get your hopes up too high.

        1. Late Introvert

          And if the University of Iowa would do that it might move a needle, but not really because Johnson County will already go for Bernie I think. But the U of I is now run by an ex-IBM guy appointed by the State Republicans.

          1. Late Introvert

            I’ve said it before, it’s hard for me to post in a timely manner here (although honestly is later that night really so late?) So all my posts end up falling in a hole. Y’all move too fast!

    1. inode_buddha

      That’s pretty rich, coming from the one that lost to Trump. Nobody likes Her because they all know she only represents Herself. I figure she just can’t deal with rejection so she’s spreading the misery all over the easiest targets. Much in the same way that modern so-called “capitalists” tend to privatize the gains and socialize the losses.

  18. shtove

    Biology of coffee – disappointed it didn’t get in to the phenomenon of caffeine promoting sleep. The theory is that people who metabolize caffeine quickly never experience the caffeine rush and promptly enjoy (or suffer) a surge of adenosine. A recent survey of a small group of acquaintances revealed that about half never experienced the rush, and that the other half also get a rush, albeit milder, from tea. Well I never!

    Adenosine looks very significant in health research, as it not only assists in sleep regulation but also in energy cycling through ATP.

    1. heresy101

      Interesting comment. Having drunk about 10 cups of strong black coffee each day for most of my life, I can attest to it not having an effect on my sleep. Even after a cup at 10 or 11pm, in fifteen minutes I would sleep like a rock until the next morning.

      Ten years ago, my doctor said the caffeine was raising my blood pressure so I had to give it up. Now, the coffee is decaffeinated and my sleep has become very irregular.

      1. lordkoos

        I’m the opposite – I love the taste of coffee, but it can give me the jitters, and if I drink it too late in the day I don’t get to sleep on time.

      2. shtove

        Yes, I often drift off after a cup of coffee, but never really observed or remarked on the phenomenon until recently. To discover that others actually get a little high from tea was disturbing – after all this time, and you never told me?

    2. Amfortas the hippie

      yeah. coffee in the afternoon promotes naps, for me….but this might be because i wake up so derned early(currently, 3 am, like clockwork. after time change, 4 am , like clockwork)
      as for the morning, i need at least one cup to function, but the next 10 or so don’t seem to have any effect…if i’m by then still involved in reading, the next few make me cranky and hollow.
      hence, second breakfast.

      1. StillAboveWater

        I wake in the 10-11am timeframe, and coffee in the afternoon promotes naps for me as well. Only the first cup acts as a stimulant; after that I’m only drinking it for the flavor (though I never drink 2 cups 2 days in a row because that brings on physical addiction).

        It is my observation that coffee affects everyone differently. I can drink a shot of espresso at 1 AM and be asleep by 2 AM. How does that match up with your experience?

  19. Wukchumni

    You know, if all the Donkey Show has against Bernie in a sadly conspired series of challenges to his candidacy is a whiff of misogyny and what is tantamount to a unpopular sorority girl talking trash about somebody’s popularity, they might just not have much in the way of dirty tricks in their scabbard.

    1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

      Footage of Bernie honeymooning in Moscow will be all it takes. Red is the new black.

  20. lordkoos

    A scary update on the Wuhan coronavirus – the first confirmed case in the US is reported in Everett WA, by the Seattle Times:

    A little too close for comfort.

    “Investigators tested samples from the man for the presence of the coronavirus and received positive results. The patient is said to be at Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett in good condition and isn’t considered a threat to medical staff or the public.”

    “No threat”, but several Chinese health workers have come down with it…

  21. Off The Street

    Here is a Threadreader that explains the seemingly convoluted or incomprehensible actions leading up to today in Impeachmentland. The thread also has a link to a DOJ Scribd doc for more legal detail, and discussion about Constitutionality versus Lawfare. One takeaway is that there is much theatre, or more heat than light.

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