What Mexico Can Teach Its Northern Neighbour About Combatting Child Obesity, Diabetes and Other Chronic Health Conditions

“The economic burden… of not intervening in the prevention and reduction of childhood overweight and obesity is up to $1.8 trillion in the case of Mexico.” 

The Trump Administration has, to its credit, produced a wide-ranging report on what it sees as the main drivers of disease in American children — something that has been sorely lacking from its predecessors. Those drivers include lifestyle factors, such as widespread addiction to smart phones, tablets and lack of exercise, the increase in routine immunisations given to children, which is debatable, and over-dependence on ultra-processed foods, which now account for almost 70% of the calories consumed by children and adolescents in the US.

There is no debate about that. As the New York Times notes, “these industrially manufactured foods and drinks, like sodas, chicken nuggets, instant soups and packaged snacks, have been linked with a greater risk of obesity, Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and other conditions”.

For the lowdown on ultra-processed foods and the myriad harms they can cause, I defer to one of our two senior resident medical experts, KLG (the other, of course, being IM Doc), with his excellent March 2024 article, Ultra-Processed People in an Ultra-Processed World:

What are ultra-processed foods (UPF) using the NOVA classification system (pdf)?  A simplified Table 1 is derived from Pomeranz et al:

This makes both intuitive and scientific sense.  And it stands to reason after minimal consideration that a diet comprising NOVA Groups 1, 2, and 3… will be a healthy diet.  This case has been made very well in Ultra-Processed People: The Science Behind Food That Isn’t Food (Norton, 2023), which will be our guide. The author Chris van Tulleken has a PhD in Molecular Virology and a medical degree (MBBS: Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery).  He is currently a practicing physician in infectious disease in London and a well-known, award-winning presenter on British television…

UPF is designed to be overconsumed (Chapter 18 of the book “Ultra-Processed People: The Science Behind Food That Isn’t Food”, by Norton).  A summary on the science of UPF and the human body:

  • Destruction of the food matrix by physical, chemical, and thermal processing softens UPF so that they are eaten fast, with the consumption of more calories per minute without feeling satiated.
  • UPF generally have a high calorie density because they are dry, high in fat and sugar, and low in fiber, which means more calories per mouthful.
  • UPF displace diverse whole foods in the diet, especially among low-income groups (UPF is cheap at the cash register but only there) and are often micronutrient-deficient despite the normal load of additives. The proper measures of a diet lie in food, not in the individual chemical compounds and minerals that are essential for life.  These are often not particularly useful in any case.  Fish is good if it is not farmed or loaded with mercury.  Fish oil (omega-3 fatty acids) in capsules from the supplement store, not so much.
  • The mismatch between taste signals and nutrition content of UPF alter metabolism by mechanisms not completely understood, but the obesity epidemic of the past 50 years is clear indication this happens. Artificial sweeteners may have a role in this.
  • UPF are designed essentially to be addictive, so binges are unavoidable. See Sugar Salt Fat. How many of us have consumed, not eaten, an entire bag of potato chips or a tube of Thin Mints at one sitting?
  • The emulsifiers, preservatives, modified starches, and other additives are likely to damage the gut microbiome. The microbiome is relatively new to biomedical science, slowly coming into focus in the past fifteen years, but it clearly has broad effects on human health from the brain to the heart.  The ostensibly harmless additives to UPF are likely to dysregulate the gut microbiome and lead to inflammation.  Chronic inflammation, a concomitant of obesity, is a risk factor for cancer and a host of other diseases.
  • Convenience, price, and marketing of UPF are intentionally designed to prompt us to eat recreationally. Snack, snack, snack.
  • Additives and physical processing required for the palatability of UPF dysregulate our satiety system. Other additives probably affect brain and endocrine function.  Plastics are essential to the marketing of UPF and are another negative externality altogether.
  • The production of UPF requires expensive subsidies (i.e., negative externalities associated with Big Ag production of GMO corn and soybean as commodity crops) that lead to environmental damage caused by industrial agriculture. This includes damage to the human and built environment of rural areas and chemical pollution caused by runoff of pesticides, herbicides, nitrogen, and phosphorous.  The dead zone at the mouth of the Mississippi River is the most glaring example of the latter.

Back on the topic of the Trump report, even the Times mustered praise for its focus on UPF.

Marion Nestle, an emerita professor of nutrition, food studies and public health at New York University with an unfortunate surname, said the report “did a phenomenal job” explaining how ultra-processed foods are harming children’s health. But she questioned the government’s willingness to act on these findings, given that “in order for them to do anything about this, they’re going to have to take on corporate industry,” including Big Ag, Big Food and Big Chem.

It hardly helps matters, notes Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, that while the report calls for “gold-standard research,” the Trump administration has drastically cut funding for science while also halting payments to universities like Harvard and Columbia.

“They’re not walking the walk,” Benjamin told the Times. “They’re just talking.”

If the Trump Administration was genuinely serious about tackling child obesity and all its offshoot conditions, taking on Big Food, Big Ag and Big Chem in the process, it already has an example to follow — from its next door neighbour and largest trade partner, Mexico.

Government Strikes Back

Less than two months ago, Mexico’s Claudia Sheinbaum’s implemented a nationwide ban on the sale of unhealthy food in schools. Under the new regulations, titled “Vida Saludable” (Healthy Living), schools at the basic, upper secondary and higher levels have had to phase out the sale in school stores of ultra-processed foods, with high levels of sugar, fats or sodium such as soft drinks, fried foods, sweets or chocolates.

In their place, schools must offer healthy eating options and drinking water for students as well as sports activities. However, the success of “Vida Saludable” will depend largely on the ability of schools to adapt and the willingness of parents to change their own — and by extension, their children’s — eating habits. As Louisa Rogers writes for Mexico News Daily, that will be easier said than done:

A 2016 study, for example, showed that while Mexican mothers correctly perceived their overweight children to be overweight, they weren’t concerned about it because they viewed it as something temporary that the child would outgrow. By and large, this is not true: One study found that 70% of kids who were overweight at age seven remained overweight as adults.

2015 study of 1380 low-income households in Mexico City found that childhood overweight was seen as a normal, even desirable condition: overweight children were seen as “taller, stronger, more of a leader, healthier and smarter than normal and thin children.” The study’s authors noted that mothers and grandmothers tended to define nutrition practices and that grandparents were strongly influenced by memories of a time when overweight children had better chances of surviving malnutrition and disease.

While schools that don’t comply with the new rules can face stiff financial and administrative penalties, the government has repeatedly stated it has no intention of sanctioning parents who put junk food in their children’s lunchboxes. Instead, it will focus on explaining the harmful effects of these foods and the importance of eating a balanced diet. The ban on school sales of UPF is also accompanied by an education campaign that includes proposals for healthy meals.

But the logistical challenges are immense. At most of Mexico’s 255,000 public schools, free drinking water is not available to students. Since 2020, only 4% of them have managed to install drinking fountains.

As Rogers notes, the law prohibiting schools from selling “comida chattara” (junk food) does not extend to vendors outside the school grounds.  According to a report by the Education Ministry (SEP), 77% of schools had such junk food stands nearby. As we warned in October last year, the government’s ban has already given rise to a lively black market in comida chattara (junk food) as well as armies of mini dealers plying their wares at break time.

“Vida Saludable” is not the first step Mexico’s government has taken to try to improve Mexicans’ food habits. In October 2020, at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, the AMLO government passed one of the strictest food labelling laws on the planet. From that date, all soft drinks cans and bottles, bags of chips and other processed food packages must bear black octagonal labels warning of “EXCESS SUGAR”, “EXCESS CALORIES”, “EXCESS SODIUM”  or “EXCESS TRANS FATS” — all in big bold letters that are impossible to miss.

Today, more than half of Mexican food and beverage products have a nutritional warning label — more than any other country in Latin America. The government also banned cartoon food packaging aimed at children. Spot the difference:

 

Big Food lobbies tried to block both of these measures, of course — just as they tried to block “Vida Saludable”. The Interamerican Association for the Protection of Intellectual Property and the Mexican Association for the Protection of Intellectual Property complained that food labelling was unconstitutional and violated the provisions that Mexico had signed at the international level such as the North American Free Trade Agreement — a tactic that has apparently been used in other jurisdictions where food labelling laws have been passed.

After the food labelling law came into force, several junk food companies filed more than 170 injunctions against the new measure. For almost four years the lawsuits dragged on.

Of the more than 100 injunctions filed by companies like Coca-Cola Femsa, PepsiCo, Group Bimbo, Hershey’s, Santa Clara, Herdez, Alimentos del Fuerte, Nutrisa and McCormick, three reached the second chamber of the Supreme Court of Justice of the Nation (SCJN), which, to its credit, ruled – by unanimous vote – that front-of-pack labelling for food and non-alcoholic beverages is a valid measure that protects people’s health and consumers’ right to information.

“An Epidemiological Emergency”

Mexico has come a long way in a relatively short time.

As the New York Times reported in a 2017 investigation, the commercial opening of North America by NAFTA turbocharged the growth of convenience stores and US-owned fast food restaurants on Mexican soil. After buying up much of the competition, Walmart is now not only the biggest retailer in Mexico but also the largest private sector employer. In addition, trade liberalisation allowed “cheap corn, meat, high-fructose corn syrup, and processed foods” from the United States to flood into Mexico.

Six years after NAFTA, Vicente Fox, a long-time Coca Cola executive, became president. Years later, Mexico would become the world’s largest per-capita consumer of sugary drinks with an average consumption of 163 litres per person per year — 40% more than the US in second place, with 118 litres, according to a study from the University of Yale — and the biggest importer of US-grown GMO corn.

In 2016, another Mexican president, Enrique Peña Nieto, proudly admitted that he drank Diet Coke every day.

“I hope this is a good advertisement for your products but I’m not sure,” said Peña Nieto, who had an approval rating of around 30% at the time.

As in the US, the impact on public health of Mexico’s unfettered embrace of ultra-processed foods has been brutal. As sugar consumption in Mexico has soared, waistlines have exploded. In the past 20 years the number of obese and overweight people has tripled, with a staggering 75% of the adult population and 37% of the child population now overweight or obese.

In addition to obesity, the change in diet has contributed to diabetes becoming the second leading cause of death, after heart disease and ahead of cancer. In 2016, a state of epidemiological emergency was declared due to the rising rates of obesity and diabetes. According to El País, Mexico’s obesity epidemic is already costing the government around 650 billion pesos ($33.8 billion) a year.

While the US’ obesity epidemic is putting strains on the economy, Mexico’s could end up doing even more damage, given its scarcer financial resources.

“The economic burden for these countries of not intervening in the prevention and reduction of childhood overweight and obesity is up to $1.8 trillion in the case of Mexico,” warns Cristina Álvares, international nutrition specialist at UNICEF.

That is more or less equivalent to one year’s GDP.

But the ban on ultra processed foods in schools should not just be aimed at bring down children’s weight, says Dr. Isabel Martínez, a specialist in Pediatric Clinical Nutrition. From the Mexican daily Milenio:

 The specialist warns that these products trigger an inflammatory effect in children at a very early age:

“This is going to affect psycho-motor, psychological, and metabolic development. It is a serious problem that is leading us to see children of 8, 9, 10 years old with type 2 diabetes, hypertension or alterations,” he warns.

In addition, the products, apparently harmless, also trigger addiction, since they release various substances at the brain level that encourage discomfort:

“It is proven that the high consumption of junk foods is related to anxiety, nervousness, depression, alterations in the state of motivation and the regeneration of neurotransmitters, neuronal growth”

Next Target: Sports and Entertainment

The Green Party in Mexico City’s Congress has proposed new legislation aimed at regulating the advertising of junk food, sugary and alcoholic drinks at sports and entertainment events. The bill’s sponsor, Deputy Jesús Sesma, said that at many sporting events and entertainment shows, whether attended in person or viewed on television, the narrative around the entertainment act is associated with alcoholic beverage and junk food brands.

“In many cases, sports or entertainment are associated with brands and consumption of beer, alcoholic beverages, salty snacks, drinks with high concentrations of sugar, products rich in sodium, fats and their derivatives,” lamented the congressman.

In both Europe and North America, sports events and junk food make for an incongruous alliance that is both widely accepted and rarely questioned. In 2018, a study published in the journal Pediatrics found that 76% of food products shown in ads promoting a sports organization sponsorship in the US are unhealthy and that 52.4% of beverages shown in sports sponsorship ads are sugar-sweetened.

In one of the most memorable moments of sports marketing, global football star Cristiano Ronaldo removed two Coca Cola bottles during a UEFA Euro 2020 press conference, urging fans to drink water instead. The move was followed by $4 billion being knocked off the company’s market value, prompting (according to some, unfounded) speculation in the media that Ronaldo had wiped billions off the company’s market cap.

But isn’t it time we began discussing the wisdom — and morality — of using sports and entertainment as a vehicle for marketing food to both adults and children that is generally harmful, and in large enough portions over a long enough time span deadly? While we’re at it, major league sports, often aided by well-remunerated celebrities, athletes, and sports organisations, are also helping to promote online sports betting, which in turn is fuelling a surge in problem gambling among adolescents and young adults in countries around the world.

As Sesma notes, corporate advertising is instrumental in shaping our values, beliefs and aspirations. As such, the mass advertising and marketing of sugary drinks, alcoholic beverages, junk food (and online betting, which he doesn’t mention) during sports events and broadcasts help to normalise the consumption of these products and services, particularly among impressionable children.

While his proposed bill, if passed, will only affect the capital, Sesma hopes that it will end up prompting action at the national level. But as with all of these initiatives, it faces huge obstacles — including massive pushback from multinational corporations, many of them US-based. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the company that has filed the most injunctions against the government’s “Vida Saludable” program is Coca Cola, primarily through its customers.

Ultimately, changing a nation’s perceptions and habits on a scale like this is a generational project, and it will take a long time for the results to become apparent. Much of its success will depend on whether future governments stick to the project. As I’ve already mentioned, the obstacles are stacked against it, especially given Mexico’s geographic location, slap bang on the border of the world’s biggest consumer and trafficker of ultra-processed food, to which it is beholden for most of its basic food staples — again, thanks to NAFTA!

That being said, the mere fact that two successive Mexican governments have taken the initiative to tackle the problem in the face of rampant corporate opposition should be cause for optimism.

Which begs the question: could something similar happen in the US?

That, of course, would depend on the Trump administration’s willingness to prioritise the health of USians and the overall long-term health of the US economy over the bottom lines of the corporate food industry and, of course, the private health care industry that directly benefits from the spiralling health crisis. And that would mean taking on their respective armies of lobbyists in Washington. It would also mean overcoming the Republican Party’s innate aversion to any kind of policy that smacks of heavy handed government intervention.

And that, if you’ll excuse my Spanish, would take a pair of cojones and a strong moral compass that are probably sorely lacking. But at least the Trump administration has acknowledged the gravity of the problem, which is more than can be said of most of its predecessors.

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27 comments

  1. Colonel Smithers

    Thank you, Nick.

    Yesterday evening’s TF1 news, French, featured processed foods and compared what is contained in the same French and US products: https://www.tf1.fr/tf1/jt-20h/videos/malbouffe-lamerique-en-raffole-loin-devant-la-france-12170224.html.

    I was in France for a few days and remarked to my parents that, from our frequent visits, obesity appears to be concentrated in the Hauts de France region, the former coal and steel heartland. This is purely an anecdote.

    1. Cithano

      Though the kind of dangerous message to French people in this reportage seems to be : “our junk food is really not so bad after all” … it is quite shocking to learn that US Fanta has 5 times more sugar that French Fanta !

      1. lyman alpha blob

        While still not exactly healthy, besides having less sugar, I have noticed what appears to be sediment from actual fruit in the Fanta in Europe. At least I hope that’s what it was…

    2. PlutoniumKun

      I did notice on my last bike trip taking a fairly random route through France that there was a surprising amount of obesity in some of the poorer parts of Brittany. It might be the local diet, although perhaps more likely a selection bias as the younger and fitter are more likely to move out of those small towns and rural areas for work and opportunities.

    3. vao

      For those who master German, the ZDF TV-station has a Youtube channel where a presenter who is actually an industrial food engineer demonstrates how those UPF are made.

      While the tone is one of joking, what he shows is quite dispiriting.

      Also, most of those UPF, whatever they are, are surprisingly repetitive in their composition: ingredients like water, glucose syrup, the same emulgators, the same thickening agents, keep reappearing from one industrial recipe to another. Keep in mind this is the European version of UPF — those found in the USA use some ingredients that are actually forbidden in the EU. Sometimes he also shows how the corresponding version of “real food” is made.

  2. Cervantes

    Where does this framework leave my vegan protein powder? Vegan protein powder is made by an industrial process that breaks down legume and brown rice to concentrate the protein elements. The result is typically combined with a modest bit of artificial sweetener and other nutritional ingredients. The result increases satiety and is not particularly addictive by itself.

    More broadly, is “food engineering” in UPFs bad more because it’s inherently bad, or is it bad more because junk food is engineered to be bad? Can there be “good” UPFs from “good” food engineering?

    1. PlutoniumKun

      Powders are normally considered ‘processed’, not ‘ultra processed’, as is pretty much anything thats been mixed and cooked. Drying for storage is an ancient process, it seems not to have significant problems. The issue comes if the manufacturer is adding lots of additives for non-nutrition purposes.

      I don’t think there is any consensus on ‘why’ UPFs are so unhealthy – most likely its the stripping of the food of important micronutrients along with the addition of lots of chemicals we were never meant to eat.

      1. Bazarov

        Processed foods also tend to go through a machine of some sort, and you bet parts of those machines–maybe the majority of the parts the food touches–are made of plastic. That allows plasticizers, pfas (nonstick coatings), and microplastics to migrate directly into the food before it’s packaged. The risk rises if the plastic-contact surface is hot.

        There are, for example, many many canned foods that are cooked in the can, meaning that the can’s internal plastic lining gets very hot and almost certainly stews chemically with whatever’s meant to be eaten in the can itself.

        I speculate that such chemical contamination accounts for a share of UPFs unhealthy effects.

    2. steppenwolf fetchit

      If the fiber elements are reduced even as the protein elements are increased, where do you get necessary fiber from?

      Also, is time so pressing that vegan protein powder must be eaten rather than eating rice and beans? Or is it a matter of carbo avoidance?

      1. Cervantes

        Fair questions from a nutrition perspective. I have already done a fair bit of min-maxing on things in my diet so do eat rice and beans with chicken (and vegetables) 1-2 meals per day. (You can do a lot with the same basic template–Mexican veggies and spices, East Med, West Med, curry, etc.). However, I am also trying to target about 1.5 g of protein per kg of body weight, more on a workout day. In the interest of eating less chicken to hit my protein goal, I add vegan protein powder to breakfast oatmeal in the morning (after ditching eggs) and sometimes drink a meal replacement shake featuring lots of vegan protein powder. If I tried to get the same protein intake just from beans and rice it would be too heavy of a carb %.

  3. Eclair

    One of the long term health consequences of Type 2 diabetes is kidney disease, often resulting in the need for dialysis. Since 1973, Medicare has paid the costs of long term dialysis for end-stage renal disease, regardless of the patient’s age. According to various information on the internet, total costs paid by Medicare for this treatment now runs over $30 billion annually. Fresenius and DaVita are large corporate providers of dialysis, a big business.

    So, ultra processed foods, loaded with high fructose corn syrup (made by Cargill and Archer-Daniels Midland, among others), are marketed to the US population, leading to insulin-resistance, and diabetes and related metabolic diseases (a boon for the ‘health care’ industry) and to kidney disease, with a good chance of needing dialysis treatment (a boon to the dialysis profit centers.).

    Lots of luck with trying to get a healthier diet for the US population, when it would mean loss of big profits for all these corporations.

    1. Adam Eran

      JFYI, Michael Pollan (in The Omnivore’s Dilemma) reports roughly 40% of agricultural income is federal subsidy, then quotes one farmer saying “It’s like laundering money for ADM and Cargill.”

      Also worth a look: “What the Health” – a video about how big ag sabotages things, and even the American Diabetes Association is complicit.

      1. steppenwolf fetchit

        . . . “It’s like laundering money for ADM and Cargill.” So in other words the income from those subsidies does not stay with the farmer. It goes through the farmer right straight to ADM and Cargill.

        It that is so, then perhaps buying food from farmers who do not engage in any way with ADM and Cargill means that none of the food money spent on ADM-free Cargill-free farmers goes to ADM and Cargill.

        Is there a way to figure out which product shares little or zero money with ADM and Cargill?

  4. .human

    The dead zone at the mouth of the Mississippi River is the most glaring example of the latter.

    Why do we call it the mouth when it is really the anus?

  5. The Rev Kev

    You would think that RFK jr would be a natural ally for Mexico in it’s push for healthy food but I have read nothing about this. More likely what Mexico is doing would be seen as a threat to too many industries in America, especially the sugar industry. But when you get down to it, what sort of economic system is it that we have that has no problems wrecking the health of hundred of millions of people and especially children. And then have another part of the economy – the medical – devote their resources to “treating” these very same people? If Mexico can buck this trend, then I wish them well. Something that all countries should be doing.

    1. steppenwolf fetchit

      And for those countries with governments which will not do this, perhaps parts of those countries under smaller jurisdictions can do it within those smaller jurisdictions.

      And populations within those countries can go right ahead and do it where not actively prevented/forbidden by government force and/or lack of money.

  6. Gregorio

    Maybe we should consider packaging unhealthy junk food like we do cigarettes.
    Plain packaging with photos of obese people and a warning label stating that it is known to cause diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, or cancer.

  7. Rubicon

    It’s a fascinating study when you shop at grocery stores that cater to low-income vs stores that cater to higher income populations.
    Higher income folks tend to buy more fruits, vegetables, spices. Lower income folks buy far more processed, sugar, additives groceries; processed foods like potato chips, cereals, and sugar-drenched drinks are their mainstay.

    Much of this disparity revolves around both the more educated individual vs the poorly educated person. It’s also based on ethnicity: folks from Asia are more likely to maintain their traditions of eating fresh food and vegetables.

  8. ciroc

    Trump initially had the right idea about cryptocurrencies, but he changed his mind after receiving donations from the industry. Now, he is seeking new donors and appears to be targeting the food industry.

  9. Carolinian

    Thanks for the report and thanks to KLG. I have to say though that I don’t recall the food when I was growing up being particularly less ultraprocessed. And yet we seem to be having an era of not just obesity but extreme obesity. Perhaps it’s the ingredients in the ultraprocessed. Cokes were always sugar sweetened in the past–now corn syrup. Saturated fat used to be common but no more.

    And perhaps cultural factors are also at play. Fat shaming is not a good thing but making body image a rights issue instead of a health issue is also imo not ok. And finally far less exercise may be the biggest factor of all–especially for kids.

    1. KLG

      I have wondered about this, too. My mother was a stay-at-home mom until my father’s union chemical worker wages could not keep up. I think I was in the 7th grade when she became a liberated woman with a job as a book keeper that paid not much more than minimum wage. Supper was prepared at home, except for Friday when we went to one of the local restaurants as a family tradition. Excellent socialization. We were typical working class but there was a neighborhood grocery store three blocks away. It was marginally more expensive than the big stores, but convenience (including credit by signing the receipt) trumped that. The owner was a renowned butcher in the community and the produce was delivered daily.

      We ate plenty of cereal and PB&J, bologna sandwiches and hot dogs. But fast food was local; no McDonald’s until I was in junior high school. But, and I think this was important: Coca-Cola, the patriot’s drink where I grew up, came in 6.5-ounce bottles as one serving, with the 10-ounce bottle appearing at some point, for a dime instead of a nickel. If I needed the money for a snack, all I had to do was collect a dozen refillable bottles for the 3-cent deposit. The Big Gulp had not been invented.

      Plus, we were much more active as children, during the school year and in the summer. During the school year, two 30-minute “recess” periods before and after lunch (good for the physical and mental health of the students and mental health of the teachers). My granddaughter, who just finished first grade at a public elementary school in Atlanta, gets 15 minutes once a day…it takes a lot of time to teach to the freakin’ tests!

      Lunch at my granddaughter’s school is unpalatable when not inedible. She has a well used lunchbox. School lunch for me was cooked, not prepared, from scratch by the sweet women (all women) we called the “lunchroom ladies.” Three days a week the entire school building was suffused with the aroma of freshly baked yeast rolls! The other food was fine. Coleslaw did not arrive in plastic bags, but as cabbage and carrots and the other ingredients. Not gourmet by any means but prepared in the kitchen in the school. No food service truck delivering “thaw and eat” so-called meals. An extra glass of milk was a nickel.

      During the summer we had run of the neighborhood from breakfast to lunch and then all afternoon until supper. The one cardinal rule was “never be late for supper.” And then back outside until dark…a different time in many ways.

      1. steppenwolf fetchit

        And plus, wasn’t Coke made with real all-sucrose cane-sugar in those ancient times? Not like the High Fructose Corn Syrup of today?

        I remember those semi hour-glass shaped coke bottles. They gave rise to the descriptor “coke-bottle shaped.” And the glass was a nice medium green as I remember.

  10. Pookah Harvey

    …“in order for them to do anything about this, they’re going to have to take on corporate industry,” including Big Ag, Big Food and Big Chem.

    That might explain all of the bad press on RFK Jr ?

    1. Yves Smith

      Well, but there is a “let them eat cake” aspect to this.

      Poor neighborhoods are often food deserts to begin with.

      How does he propose to get more fruit and veg to them at affordable prices?

      When my mother’s carer lost her shuttle driving job (as in half her income) she was reduced to eating breakfast cereal with milk. She was already overweight and ballooned.

  11. Dean

    Big Food gets us sick and obese.

    Big Pharma rides to the rescue with medications and magic weight loss drugs.

    And Big Insurance is there to extract what it can before cutting off care.

    This is our system. Good luck trying to change it.

  12. KidDoc

    Sorry to be late to this discussion – thnk you for it. Robert Lustig is a US pediatric endrocrinologist who has actively pushed for better school nutrition. His recipe book, offered free for download, provides a clear description of sugar metabolism, and helpful guidance for cooking real whole foods (including on a budget). His book, Metabolical, suggests a fourfold cost savings (cooking/eating well vs health care cost) for improved diet. His emphasis is the basics – real whole food – rather than micromanagement.

    https://robertlustig.com/fat-chance-cookbook/

    1. steppenwolf fetchit

      The question then being one of how to get real food ingredients into fuud deserts and fuud junkyards.

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