Coffee Break: Trump Deploys National Guard to LA

President Trump deploys National Guard and US Marines to California in support of ICE arrests. Governor Gavin Newsom files suit in opposition. Protestors burn Waymos.

Context & Strategy

The White House Marching Orders That Sparked the L.A. Migrant Crackdown Wall St Journal

…in late May, Stephen Miller, a top White House aide and the architect of the president’s immigration agenda, addressed a meeting at the headquarters of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, known as ICE. The message was clear: The president, who promised to deport millions of immigrants living in the country illegally, wasn’t pleased. The agency had better step it up.

Gang members and violent criminals, what Trump called the “worst of the worst,” weren’t the sole target of deportations. Federal agents needed to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” Miller told top ICE officials, who had come from across the U.S., according to people familiar with the meeting.

Agents didn’t need to develop target lists of immigrants suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, a longstanding practice, Miller said. Instead, he directed them to target Home Depot, where day laborers typically gather for hire, or 7-Eleven convenience stores. Miller bet that he and a handful of agents could go out on the streets of Washington, D.C., and arrest 30 people right away.

The Big Beautiful Bill Will Bring ICE Raids to Your City David Dayen, American Prospect

Because the mega-bill is primarily about extending the Trump tax cuts, and because the most politically salient pieces are about cutting Medicaid, not much attention has been given to the surge of money that will go to immigration enforcement from this bill. The House version provided $151.3 billion in additional resources for immigration agencies, and while the Senate Judiciary Committee has not yet released its text, the targets in their budget resolution would raise that number even higher.

A big chunk of this money (about one-third) goes to border wall construction. But even more goes toward detention and enforcement. The $45 billion earmarked for building new detention centers would represent a 364 percent annual increase to the construction budget, supercharging the detention beds available to at least 125,000. The entire federal prison system only holds a little bit more than that. Then, another $27 billion is plowed into enforcement and deportation, enough to hire 10,000 more ICE officers over the next five years.

Trump Sends In Troops

Presidential Memoranda June 7, 2025 Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

In light of these incidents and credible threats of continued violence, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations.

Further, I direct and delegate actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority.

The members and units of the National Guard called into Federal service shall be at least 2,000 National Guard personnel and the duration of duty shall be for 60 days or at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense.

In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

Donald J. Trump

USNORTHCOM statement on additional military personnel in the Los Angeles Area

U.S. Northern Command has activated the Marine infantry battalion that was placed in an alert status over the weekend. Approximately 700 Marines with 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division will seamlessly integrate with the Title 10 forces under Task Force 51 who are protecting federal personnel and federal property in the greater Los Angeles area.

**UPDATE** As of today, June 9th 2025, there are approximately 1700 soldiers from the 79th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, a California National Guard unit in a Title 10 status, in the greater Los Angeles Area.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth testifies before House Defense Appropriations subcommittee

Acting Pentagon comptroller Bryn MacDonnell: “So the current estimated cost is $134 million which is largely just TDY cost, travel, housing, food, etc…. coming out of their O & M (Operations and Maintenance) accounts.

Rep. Pete Aguilar (D – CA): “With the most recent deployment of the Marines, Mr. Secretary, what’s the justification for using the military for civilian law enforcement purposes in LA? Why are you sending war fighters to cities to interact with civilians? Every American citizen deserves to live in a community that’s safe.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth: “Uh, and ICE agents need to be able to do their job. They’re being attacked for doing their job, which is deporting illegal criminals that should happen in any city, Minneapolis or Los Angeles, and if they’re attacked, that’s lawless and President Trump believes in law and order, so he has every authority and he has done mobilizing National Guard or active duty troops under US code to protect federal agents in their job.

Which is exactly what we’re doing and we’re proud to do it. We’re proud to do it. 10 USC of the US Code 12406 as a legal basis that the president used cites three examples, um, and circumstances for the guard, invasion by a foreign nation, a rebellion or dangerous rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States, or the president is unable with regular forces to execute the laws of the United States, which authority is triggered here to justify the use.

I don’t know. You just read it yourself and people can listen themselves, but it sounds like all three to me. If you’ve got millions of illegals and you don’t know where they’re coming from, they’re waving flags from foreign countries and assaulting police officers and law enforcement officers.

That’s the problem. The governor of California is unable to execute the laws of the United States. The governor of California has failed to protect his people along with the mayor of Los Angeles, and so President Trump has said he will protect our agents and our guard and Marines are proud to do so.”

Exclusive: DHS secretary sought military arrests and drones in Los Angeles in leaked letter San Francisco Chronicle

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem asked Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to direct the military to detain or arrest “lawbreakers,” a move one expert called “a grave escalation.”

A letter sent Sunday from Noem to Hegseth, obtained by the Chronicle, requested that the Pentagon give “Direction to DoD forces to either detain, just as they would at any federal facility guarded by military, lawbreakers under Title 18 until they can be arrested and processed by federal law enforcement, or arrest them.”


Gavin Newsom’s Political Journey

Newsom called the Abrego Garcia deportation fight a ‘distraction.’ Then came the pushback Los Angeles Times April 21, 2025

‘Pod Save America’ Slams Gavin Newsom For Calling Man’s Mistaken Deportation A ‘Distraction’ Huffington Post April 18, 2025

Gavin Newsom praises congressman’s El Salvador trip after deportation controversy The Sacramento Bee April 25, 2025

Californians doubt Newsom is focusing on his day job, poll finds Politico May 7, 2025

Newsom Responds to Trump

Newsom-Trump truce explodes as president deploys troops against his wishes California Matters

(The) carefully calibrated truce, forged in the wake of January’s devastating wildfires across Los Angeles, appeared to implode over the weekend when Trump sent the California National Guard into the city against Newsom’s wishes to quell immigration enforcement protests.

Newsom’s furious, at times vitriolic, response — comparing Trump to a dictator and calling him a “stone cold liar” for supposedly misrepresenting a phone call between them — harkens back to the immediate aftermath of the November election, when the governor was poised to  assume national leadership in the resistance  to the second Trump administration. Just two days after Trump’s re-election, Newsom practically invited a confrontation with the president by  announcing a special legislative session to set aside funding for litigation against the federal government.

That provocation has come to fruition seven months later with troops in the streets and a pending court challenge to the president’s constitutional authority.

“Many of you called me out as, ‘It’s too extreme. Shouldn’t you be working with Donald Trump during his transition?’ when I called that special session,” Newsom told a reporter  during an interview Sunday night with Fox LA. “We knew something would happen. But I gotta say, I never expected Donald Trump to do this.”

Newsom has rallied Californians and his liberal base with his open defiance, even sending a fundraising email Sunday morning about the National Guard deployment. The posturing nevertheless puts both the governor and his state at increasing risk of reprisal.

Constitutional Crisis?

Trump suggests border czar should arrest Newsom CNN

Reporter: “Gavin Newsom is daring (White House Border Czar) Tom Homan to come and arrest him.

President Donald Trump: Did he do it? I would do it. Our job. I think it’s great that Gavin likes the publicity, but I think (arresting him) would be the right thing. He’s done a terrible job. Look, I like Gavin Newsom. He’s a nice guy, but he’s grossly incompetent.

Homan says Trump administration has “no intention to arrest” Newsom — after Trump says “I’d do it” CBS Evening News

…”border czar” Tom Homan told CBS News on Monday “there’s no intention to arrest” California Gov. Gavin Newsom, after President Trump suggested he was open to the idea — escalating a war of words over the protests and law enforcement response in Los Angeles.

“That whole thing’s been taken out of context,” Homan said. “They haven’t crossed a line yet … If you cross that line, I don’t care who they are — the governor, the mayor, whatever — and when you commit a crime against ICE officers, we will seek prosecution.”

Contending Narratives

The disparity btwn what’s actually happening in Los Angeles and the way it’s being mischaracterized is one of the biggest stress tests of modern media in recent memory. Botted socials, AI, old clips, declining literacy—it’s like seeing a broken emergency response system hit by a storm.

— Mina Kimes (@minakimes.bsky.social) Jun 10, 2025 at 4:57 PM

Statement from ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons on assaults against federal law enforcement officers in Los Angeles June 6

“What took place in Los Angeles yesterday was appalling. As rioters attacked federal ICE and law enforcement officers on the LA streets, Mayor Bass took the side of chaos and lawlessness over law enforcement.

“Our brave officers were vastly outnumbered, as over 1,000 rioters surrounded and attacked a federal building. It took over two hours for the Los Angeles Police Department to respond, despite being called multiple times. The brave men and women of ICE were in Los Angeles arresting criminal illegal aliens including gang members, drug traffickers and those with a history of assault, cruelty to children, domestic violence, robbery, and smuggling.

“These violent rioters will be held accountable if they harm federal officers, and make no mistake, ICE will continue to enforce our nation’s immigration laws and arrest criminal illegal aliens. Sanctuary politicians would do well to remember that impeding our efforts only endangers their communities, law enforcement officers, and the detainees they claim to support.”

Los Angeles Protests Amplified by Influencers and Online Creators New York Times

Outfitted with their own makeshift press helmets and vests, many creators — many of whom lean conservative — have livestreamed entire days of coverage and posted to social platforms like X and streaming sites like Twitch and YouTube. During some of the week’s most violent moments, Trump officials like Stephen Miller and billionaires like Elon Musk chose to amplify what the creators published, causing the posts to go viral and feeding the narrative that the violence has been out of control.

False Flags Ken Klippenstein

Channel 5, the gonzo-style show hosted by YouTuber Andrew Callaghan, sent a balaclava-donned correspondent to the streets to talk to the protesters.

“They’re terrorizing U.S. citizens,” one man said of law enforcement’s deployment of tear gas to disperse the protests. The clear emphasis on how this affects people in general — not just immigrants — surprised me.

Another protester, a black woman named Alex Walls from Louisiana, told CNN that the deportations were “disturbing” to children. “You’re separating people from their kids, families, and whatnot,” she said. “Ya’ll got kids don’t understand what’s going on, seeing this going on. It’s very disturbing.”

Others said explicitly that their motive was to impede the deportations, like Ron Gochez, who also told CNN: “ For every single minute that we were here resisting against the Border Patrol, that was time that they were not out deporting people in our community.”

2,000 LA anti-ICE rioters take over 101 Freeway downtown as self-driving cars are lit on fire in chaotic scene New York Post

Only a third of Americans are backing the LA protests over the ICE raids, poll finds The Independent

Around one in three Americans (36 percent) said they  approve of the protests  against Immigration and Customs Enforcement, compared to 45 percent who disapprove, a YouGov  poll of more than 4,200 U.S. adults found. Of those polled, 19 percent said they were not sure.

Test Case for Martial Law? What Trump Might Really Be Doing In Los Angeles. Steven Donziger

It’s virtually unheard of for a President to take over a state national guard — which is a reserve force of the US Army — without a formal request from the state’s Governor. Yet California Governor Gavin Newsom has condemned Trump’s move and is suing him over it. But if the Trump-Miller anti-immigrant crusade keeps going in the same direction, I believe Trump’s next step will be to try to invoke an obscure statute from 1807 called the Insurrection Act (see here for an explanation) to turn the actual US army into a policing force that can be unleashed against US citizens. This has long been on his authoritarian wish list. In my view, this easily could lead to martial law, curfews, and shoot to kill orders in certain neighborhoods. He’s already called for Governor Newsom’s arrest.

Trump is using federal law enforcement to try to create a spectacle of violence that can be used to justify turning the US military against the people.

Waymos

LAPD Publishes Crime Footage It Got From a Waymo Driverless Car404 Media

Waymo is rapidly expanding in Los Angeles; anecdotally, I see many Waymos driving around town every day, and the company just announced that the autonomous vehicles have expanded the geographic region in which they would operate in the city and that it would soon begin testing them on Los Angeles freeways. The proliferation of Waymo cars also means the proliferation of roving surveillance cameras. LAPD has shown an interest in obtaining footage from autonomous vehicles that operate in the city; last year we reported on a case in which the  LAPD obtained footage from an autonomous food delivery robot to investigate a crime. 

A Waymo spokesperson told 404 Media that it does not proactively give footage to police.

Why people are burning Waymos Taylor Lorenz

As police begin to leverage tech like Waymo cars, protesters are becoming more aware of the surveillance infrastructure being built into modern life. Many activists have called attention to the fact that social platforms, like Meta, have handed user data over to the police. (In 2022, Facebook handed the data of a mother and daughter facing criminal charges for allegedly carrying out an illegal abortion to law enforcement). And more of the public is becoming aware of tools like facial recognition software, that the police have begun to use heavily.

When I asked a few protesters on the ground yesterday why they thought the Waymos were burning, they told me that the cars “spy” on people and could be recording protest footage. We still don’t know who exactly set fire to the cars or why, but it’s clear that more people are perceiving Waymos as an extension of the police surveillance infrastructure.

Different Strategic Approaches

Heroes & Villians

Brian Wilson, June 20, 1942 – June 11, 2025

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  1. lyman alpha blob

    I may have the timeline wrong, but if not, Newsom is an even bigger publicity seeking, unscrupulous, vapid weasel than I’d previously thought. Because he dared Trump to arrest him first, and then whinged about Trump saying he’d have him arrested after being questioned about it by a reporter.

    Last I checked governors did have the authority to call in the National Guard themselves, and California certainly has a deployment. Why not call in the Cali NG and have them tell the others to stand down if things are indeed so unprecedented and the whole of ‘our democracy’ is in danger?

    He doesn’t do that because he knows this is not an unprecedented act by Trump and is willing to see how things play pout in court. Which is how things are supposed to work.

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    1. FranticFilter

      Does the California NG have the authority to direct other NGs and tell them what to do? I’m not convinced your plan would work

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    2. scott s.

      Each state has, with duties assigned by constitution or law, a state Adjutant General typically appointed by the gov and a serving general in the army or air guard. Under state law the AG can have varying authority. Each state AG also works with the National Guard Bureau for lobbying/administrative purposes. In recent years the Bureau has been allocated a 4-star Chief who sits on the Joint Chiefs.

      Most often a state guard unit is activated under “Title 32” status, which allows the federal government to pay for the costs of activation. This includes weekend drills and annual two week active duty for training periods. There’s also some full time guard paid federally who also have fed civil service status.

      Guard activated under “Title 10” are under federal control; in this case via TF 51 under MG Scott Sherman (who is in the Colorado guard).

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  2. Norton

    Newsom is in trouble based on the coverage and on commenters from SoCal. He and Bass are in the spotlight for voters and look very shaky for subsequent elections.
    The burning cars on screen reminded me way too much of the scenes from Minneapolis just a five short years ago, and of the Palisades and Eaton fires earlier this year.
    What is going on in Southern California?

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  3. Wukchumni

    I was in LA during the Rodney King Riot, and this episode is certainly no riot, and aside from the Waymos, has much burned?

    Walked out to Parker Mesa (truly the best view in LA, but you gotta earn it on foot) in Topanga in the midst of the RKR, and South Central had so many smoke signals reaching up into the sky, it had the look of a city that had been bombed an hour earlier by legions of B-17’s, and fires were everywhere.

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    1. Carolinian

      The LA Times had a story about what has happened versus what was rumored or claimed to have happened. Did they really raid a Home Depot or were ICE cars seen parked at an office building across the street from the Home Depot?

      https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-06-10/la-ice-protests-truth-vs-fiction

      What makes this different from George Floyd times is that “ICE Barbie” and boss started it with their thuggish arrest of college students and where there’s smoke there may indeed be fire.

      It could be time for Trump to do one of his famous 180s–and for LA to take better control of the situation.

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      1. Janeway

        It appears that ICE was staging/setting up for a sweep on HD across the street, but the protest broke out before ICE was able to start their raid. Thus the hectic retreat out of the business park.

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  4. AG

    waiting for op eds about how Brian´s death being a symbol for downfall of California…it´s like ordered by a showmaster this very moment

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    1. JustAnotherVolunteer

      Love and Mercy.
      That’s what we need.

      Sounds of a more innocent time. Rest easy Brian.

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    1. Nat Wilson Turner Post author

      My pleasure, thanks. Having some issues embedding tweets, hoping to have that sorted soon.

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  5. Hepativore

    So how is the president deploying the Marines domestically not illegal under the Posse Comitatus act? Doesn’t it forbid presidents from using the military for domestic law enforcement other than the National Guard?

    Is there some sort of caveat that I am not aware of, or is this yet another case of a president blatantly ignoring laws that he does not agree with as so many presidents have done in the past, much like how Biden and now Trump seem to violate the Leahy Law daily with impunity with all of the aid that we send to Israel.

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    1. Bugs

      They’re justifying it with the legal exception to protect federal officials – ICE, and the Marines are protecting the NG which is deployed under federal authority. All disputable.

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      1. mrsyk

        Yeah. The problem is, to use a feral finster line, “What are you going to do about it?”. Right now, the use of force exists on one side only, and it’s the main component to their strategy. The current administration has a habit of doing whatever it wants, and it seems to be based on the finster’s maxim.

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        1. Hepativore

          Unfortunately, the Trump administration is not unique in this regard, as Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, and Biden have all had the same mentality.

          I know that everybody seems to think that Trump is responsible for the president basically being a king, but that seems to have been the defacto standard which the country has adhered to for quite some time. All the Supreme Court did was codify what was already in place.

          Taking the analogy even further, the American presidency seems like it always has been a monarchy from the very beginning, like an “elective monarchy”. The president does not have to listen to what his subjects want and he can and often will blow them off if he feels like it because he is under no real obligation to care. The act of voting that we have is largely symbolic as it has no bearing on the seats of power that actually run our nation. We even have our own House of Lords as practically everybody in Congress is wealthy and unconcerned by the wishes of the commoners. Many congressional members also come from familial dynasties of nobility such as the Clintons, the Bushes, the Kennedys, etc.

          We have had a “peerage” system in the US from the very beginning, just that it exists “unofficially”.

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          1. mrsyk

            Sing it! I agree throughout. I was going on in real time, but yes, we are where we are right now because it’s the now version of our political constant.
            Nevertheless, it’s Trump who’s in charge now.

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  6. mrsyk

    This is a nice roundup, thanks.

    “Who called the Waymos?”
    A) Protesters who lured them there to burn them.
    B) The Feds in order to record the events.
    C) Interested third party to harvest data.

    Feel free to add to the list. It would be interesting to know the answer.

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    1. Nat Wilson Turner Post author

      you’re welcome. interesting questions about the waymos but I’m not one to look a gift horse in the mouth.

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    2. ciroc

      I believe the federal agents called the cabs and started the fire to justify their intervention. They needed a symbol of photogenic chaos and disorder.

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  7. David in Friday Harbor

    ICE is whining that it took the LAPD a mere 2 hours respond to their disorganized plea to be bailed-out of their own stoopid pschitt-pschow? Most Angelenos would be grateful for such a speedy response! It’s also not like LAPD’s got a rapid-response team sitting around decked-out in riot gear sipping lattes; do they think this is Paris?

    I know that Gavin is rightly seen in these parts as a dyslexic Getty protegé flexing “Blue Steel” and “Magnum” looks but I actually think that he’s able to read the room pretty well and I wrote to him last night:

    Dear Governor Newsom,

    Thank you for your message today about the President’s outrageous and authoritarian over-reach in L.A.

    I was a Calif prosecutor for 32 years and have served on the board of the Retired Public Employees Association of California. Like you, I believe in the Rule of Law.

    All of my grandparents were immigrants — but in a world of 8 billion lives in simultaneous being we must have an ordered approach to immigration. I note that Mr Trump was previously President from 2017-21 and is one of the authors of our failure to address orderly immigration.

    As a former prosecutor who had victims and witnesses snatched by ICE, I know that no employer is being arrested or prosecuted for exploitation and wage theft from economic refugees. When we adopted the 13th Amendment did we make it a crime to BE a slave? Picking on the weakest migrants while granting MILLIONS of unnecessary H-1b visas that deny employment to our own STEM graduates is the worst sort of bullying.

    Your characterization of the actions of the President and Secretaries Noem and Hegseth as cowardice and weakness are spot-on. We don’t need militarized thugs arresting dish-washers and seamstresses. Under Cal Penal Code 830.85 these individuals are not Peace Officers in California other than when discharging federal duties. They act illegally when assaulting Californians exercising their First Amendment rights.

    The LASD and LAPD have a long history of dealing with civil unrest. They’re not perfect but as you remind us, arrests are being made and prosecutions will be filed. There is NO need for federal troops other than to feed the ego of a deranged narcissist.

    I was disappointed by your unwillingness to call-out the incapacity of former President Biden — if people had stepped-up Vice President Harris could have run as an incumbent on her own record and in my opinion would be our president today. However, now is the time for bluntness and brutal honesty. Your remarks today are the right way forward.

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    1. tegnost

      It’s long past time to go after not just some employers, but a lot of employers.
      The right to cheap labor, I don’t think that’s in our biggest most beautiful constitution, but I could be wrong.

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      1. David in Friday Harbor

        Oh, the “right to cheap labor” is in there alright:

        Article I sec. 2

        Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned …by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

        Article I sec. 8

        The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

        Article IV sec. 2

        No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

        Try as we might, we’ll never get that stain out

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  8. mrsyk

    Lol, the obscurity of John Thune! 56% “don’t know” (who he is, heh heh). The only other revelation from that Atlas Intel poll is unpopularity is bipartisan.

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    1. Erstwhile

      Occupy the streets and walkways by getting down on your knees and praying. Let the record show that the state pushed, shoved, and abused you during your most solemn time of prayerful supplication. Pray earnestly that the good lord speak to president trump and turn him away from the path of sin that the evil 😈 one has mightily tempted him. Oh, it doesn’t hurt too if you can be recorded having the hell being beaten out of you while you’re reaching for your rosary. Now, that’s just for starters.

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      1. mrsyk

        Lol, getting jailed, deported, or killed might get you disqualified from the “effectively” part. Or might not. It’s a high price of admission.

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      2. Patrick J Morrison

        I appreciate that Rev. William Barber and friends have been doing this lately. arrested several times now for praying against the big beautiful bill in the Capitol Rotunda. His ‘White Poverty: How Exposing Myths About Race and Class Can Reconstruct American Democracy’ was one of the more hopeful books I’ve read lately.

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  9. Tom Stone

    I expect that the Trump administration will be increasingly provocative until they find an excuse to impose Martial Law.
    Once Martial Law has been declared it will be possible to bypass that awkward Bruen VS NY decision by the Supreme Court while the State of Emergency exists.
    It will just be a temporary measure to preserve our Freedoms…

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  10. Jokerstein

    President Donald Trump: Did he [arrest Newsom]? I would do it. Our job. I think it’s great that Gavin likes the publicity[…]

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  11. The Rev Kev

    Maybe this whole saga is a distraction. Until recently it was all about Trump and negotiations with the Ukraine and Russia. He was spending a lot of his political capital on it. But then he let that raid on Russia’s nuclear bombers go ahead and when some of them blew up, so did any chance of him being able to do anything here. He was coming out the loser and he did not know what to do. But then in a bit of magical timing, you had the LA riots. Fantastic! Here was a chance to show tough guy Trump who would push aside any laws or restrictions to get those immigrants out of the country which is his hobby horse and where he feels himself at home. Meanwhile – the Ukraine? What’s that?

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  12. AG

    fwiw: video of protest

    via Racket

    By Greg Collard

    Since violence erupted in Los Angeles last Friday, efforts to downplay the scale and significance of the riots have been widely apparent. Matt wrote on Tuesday about the legacy media’s regurgitation of the 2020 narrative, when “mostly peaceful” was included in story after story about the Black Lives Matter protests that summer. Five years later, “mostly peaceful” — or at least a form of it — is in vogue again.

    But there is also another message in play this time around: most of LA is all good because the protests are only in a “part of” downtown. Here’s CNN telling us “what’s been happening.”

    In other words, instead of “mostly peaceful,” it’s mostly business as usual.

    It’s also a talking point for LA Mayor Karen Bass, who says the “unrest that has [sic] happened are a few blocks within the downtown area. It is not all of downtown, and it is not all of the city.”

    You can decide for yourself how much that distinction matters in this Activism, Uncensored video shot by News 2 Share’s Ford Fischer and Neil Radimaker in collaboration with Racket.

    Activism Uncensored: LAPD battle with anti-ICE protesters
    13 min.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1AXI-Pok0

    too tired to comment now

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    1. AG

      A point that might escape Taibbi, who in this matter I find to be argueing from inside the House:

      As Trump Sets Military Against Civilians, Service Members Have Duty to Disobey
      By Marjorie Cohn / Truthout
      https://scheerpost.com/2025/06/12/as-trump-sets-military-against-civilians-service-members-have-duty-to-disobey/

      “(…)
      The Duty to Disobey Unlawful Orders

      The Uniform Code of Military Justice requires that all military personnel obey lawful orders. A law that violates the Constitution or a federal statute (such as 10 U.S.C. section 12406, the Posse Comitatus Act, and the Insurrection Act) is an unlawful order. Both the Army Field Manual and the Nuremberg Principles create a duty to disobey unlawful orders.

      Trump’s deployment of military forces to L.A., and particularly an invocation of the Insurrection Act, will create a legal and ethical dilemma for service members. “Soldiers have not only a right, but a duty, to refuse illegal orders; yet the legality of those orders would be determined by courts-martial of refusers. And service members have a moral obligation not to harm the innocent; yet such harm would be inevitable if troops are used against civilians here,” Kathleen Gilberd, executive director of the National Lawyers Guild’s Military Law Task Force (MLTF), told Truthout.

      The task force said in a statement that it is “opposed to the use of military forces to ‘put down’ or ‘control’ the heartfelt reactions by community members to workplace immigration raids in Los Angeles and other cities.” Moreover, it added:

      The MLTF will be developing a more comprehensive plan of action, including the use of Article 138 of the UCMJ and the Nuremberg Principles. For now, we pledge our support for members of the National Guard and the active-duty military personnel who are opposed to attacking and killing those who oppose the illegal and immoral removal of undocumented workers.

      The situation in Los Angeles is precarious as the Marines prepare to deploy and Trump continues to escalate his spurious claims and frightening threats. People are demonstrating around the country in opposition to the actions of ICE and the Trump administration. And we can expect the protests to grow in strength.

      Meanwhile, the legality of Trump’s deployments will be litigated in federal court, and service members deployed to the streets of L.A. will have to decide whether to follow orders they deem unlawful or risk harming civilians.
      (…)”

      And even if orders did not violate the Constitution why should an individual in uniform not have the right to contradict?
      In fact shouldn´t US legal tradition as laid out by Andrew Napolitano last week re: 4th Amendment invite to do just that?

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      1. Michael Fiorillo

        Taibbi has been on a downward trajectory ever since Musk played him with the Twitter files, and can’t seem to break out of his (understandable) resentment against the #McResistance for smearing him regarding Russiagate and anti-racist grifters, et.al. Kirn is a bad influence on him, as well.

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  13. Wukchumni

    Agents didn’t need to develop target lists of immigrants suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, a longstanding practice, Miller said. Instead, he directed them to target Home Depot, where day laborers typically gather for hire, or 7-Eleven convenience stores
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I never think of 7-Eleven for day laborers, maybe you might need a proxy to go buy a slurpee?

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  14. tegnost

    I must admit to a wee bit extra glee calling trump “the taco”,…it works, and you never get to pick your own nickname…oh by the way, could an ai express glee at a metaphor, or pointed yet dark humor?

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  15. AG

    As Yves reminded of Obama and habeas corpus, this post now:

    while I am not sure what to think of Voltairenet as a whole entity there was this in 2012, I hope my impression that the text is legit is correct:

    The Suspension of Habeas Corpus in America
    Obama: a President Who Places Himself Above the Law.

    By Jean-Claude Paye
    Global Research, June 08, 2013
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-suspension-of-habeas-corpus-in-america/5311701

    French original:
    https://www.mondialisation.ca/habeas-corpus-bush-obama-le-changement-dans-la-continuite/5310630?doing_wp_cron=1749719990.7639629840850830078125

    “(…)
    The end of Habeas Corpus for US citizens

    The National Defense Authorization Act [4] signed by President Obama on the 31st December 2011 authorises the indefinite detention, without trial or indictement, of any US citizens designated as enemies by the executive.
    The individuals concerned are not only those who have been captured on the field of battle, but also those who have never left the United States or participated in any military action. The law concerns any person designated by the administration as “a member of Al-Qaeda or the Taliban, and who takes part in hostile action against the United States”, but also anyone who “substantially supports these organisations”. This formula enables an extensive and flexible use of the law. For example, it would enable the government to lash out at any civil defence organisations who seek to protect the constitutional rights of US citizens who have been designated by the executive as enemies of the USA
    (…)”

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  16. Kurtismayfield

    Thank you for the roundup Nat.

    I don’t blame Newsom for all the grandstanding/opposition by tweet. The DNC has done nothing to oppose anything, and barely a few Democrats are coming out in opposition to President Trump. He took an opportunity and ran with it.

    I also do not think President Trump is dumb enough to propose martial law. He will be beat with that stick politically for the rest of his days. All the Democratic fever dreams of him suspending elections are just that.

    What will the business leadership do once the labor force starts to shrink? I think they will all cage on the immigration enforcement at some point. No matter what labor does.

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    1. Nat Wilson Turner Post author

      my pleasure. I missed some key stories that commenters have added as well. this is a complicated one

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  17. Victor Sciamarelli

    I’m not following the riots closely but it seems, imo, Dems won’t miss an opportunity to shoot themselves in foot. Some excerpts from an interview with Heather Mac Donald on Undercurrents: Democrats are turning a blind eye to LA chaos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FRE3kDpbqQ

    HMD 3:58: CA is the sanctuary state and LA is the sanctuary city par excellence, that means that it is actively opposing federal authority. So it makes it rather ironic that now the politicians there are so upset that DT is allegedly using federal authority to maintain order, to try and restore order, in the face of these anarchic riots.
    CA routinely defies the requests of our immigration agents, ICE agents, to let the ICE agents know when an illegal alien criminal is being released from prison or jail so that ICE agents can take custody of this, let me reassert, criminal who may have committed homicide, rape, burglary, theft, so that ICE can take custody of this illegal alien criminal and deport him.
    And you would think that local law enforcement authorities would be grateful for ICE getting another gang banger off their hands so that they don’t have to worry about in there local community. Instead, CA officials routinely let that illegal alien go so that ICE cannot pick him up. It [CA] leads the country. Over half of all these refusals to cooperate with ICE occur in CA. Over a brief two year period, CA released over 13,000 convicted illegal alien criminals back into the general population. LA’s jails do the same. So what we have is a widespread winking at the most fundamental aspects of law. And according to broken windows theory, you would expect that when you ignore law breaking in one sphere, you going to see it in other spheres, as we’ve seen with these violent riots that have been dominating parts of LA over the weekend.

    HMD 12:20: The National Guard are there to protect federal ICE officers, the Immigration Enforcement officers who have been assaulted when they tried to carry out federal law of deportation through judicial warrants. This all began on Friday when they went to three workplaces, or around workplaces, to execute federal warrants. This was perfectly legal and the National Guard has been called out to make sure that they’re no longer attacked, that federal buildings are no longer attacked, that federal vehicles are no longer attacked, that is a perfectly legitimate function and it is a minor and modest one. They are not there with tanks. They are not engaging with the rioters. They are simply standing quietly in front of federal buildings and making sure that if ICE agents are engaged in another effort to pick up illegal aliens who are eligible for deportation they will not be attacked again so I think that’s perfectly appropriate. It is the politicians who are whipping people up into a frenzy that somehow these 300 members of the National Guard who were standing way off into the background should be further cause for rioting.

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    1. Michael Fiorillo

      “The police are not here to create disorder. The police are here to preserve disorder.”
      – Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, in the aftermath of the 1968 Chicago police riot

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      1. Victor Sciamarelli

        That was then and times change. James Li at 51-49 reports that recently with the outbreak of violence “something is not adding up.” And suddenly and amazingly Trump has the solution. Li includes a clip from Democracy Now, “The Trump administration has tapped Palantir, the data mining company founded by the billionaire tech investor Peter Thiel, to compile data on people in the US for a master database, including a new 30-million dollar contract with ICE to provide near real-time visibility into migrant movements.”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMiaIzxtn8Q

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  18. TomDority

    That card reads defend against personal attacks and defending himself. So the protests are against policies and provisions for ICE and etc. Not against airmen and soldiers.
    ICE and law enforcement appear to be advancing upon, moving toward, using weapons non-lethal or maybe lethal if used improperly including running into people with vehicles… but it clearly shows that the forces employed are attacking those demonstrating peacfully and those demonstrators are not directing or attacking – they are in majority defending –
    Sort of exactly like the civil rights marches where law enforcement attacked peacfull demonstrators.
    well – anyway
    The IDF with Netenyahoo and full support of the USA’s three branches – continue Genocide and look for ways to imperil all civilization – nothing new I suppose – but still insane

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  19. Glenda

    ICE has moved up to N. Calif. My friend just sent this around –

    “I just got word that ICE has shown up at both Highland Hospital and a clinic we use in Fremont.”

    Highland is in Oakland, Alameda Co. Fremont is just south of Oakland.
    They’ve turned up the heat by coming to the Bay Area. People are already going to do mass demos for No Kings day on Sat. Now this.

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  20. Glenda

    Another friend just sent this –
    “This entire scenario is surreal! There is a situation going on
    At the San Francisco Airport, where they have detained some Palestinians Who are here to speak at an event! They were invited by Jewish groups , interfaith groups and other groups in the Bay Area to speak and ICE is detaining them!
    A group of activist are On their way to the airport to lend support!”

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