BP: Gulf Resident Gives Behind the Scenes Account, Slams Cleanup and Safety

Gulf resident and fisherman’s wife Kindra Arnesen took advantage of the offer extended to her to visit cleanup sites and staff meetings:

At any rate, I was invited the following week to go behind “enemy lines.” They gave me, of all people, security clearance to go into the base of operations meetings in Venice, Louisiana eight days in. Open door invitation to sit like a fly on the wall. Can you believe it? It’s really going on. They also gave me security clearance to go up to the Homer Incident Command Post which is over the entire region of Louisiana. I’ve been in Coast Guard planes all the way out to the site itself. Helicopters. Boat rides. I have been everywhere that anybody could ever want to go to get an inside look at what’s really going on.

Arensen appears to have been invited in because she got media coverage earlier in June when CNN covered her efforts to organize wives of Gulf fisherman over concerns about the safety of working on oil cleanup:

Arnesen believes it was vapors from the oil and the dispersants from the BP Gulf oil disaster that made her husband and the other shrimpers sick. She says they were downwind of it, and the smell was “so strong they could almost taste it.”

For several weeks, she hesitated to talk publicly about it. Like many fishermen who can no longer fish in the Gulf, her husband has signed a contract to work with BP to clean up the oil, and she doesn’t want to bite the hand that puts food on her family’s table.

But now Arnesen, a 32-year-old “uneducated housewife” — her words — is breaking her silence and is encouraging others in her community do the same. After attending a lecture by Rikki Ott, a toxicologist who’s worked with families affected by the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, Arnesen decided to organize other wives to ask questions about the safety of working near the oil.

Apparently embedding is more successful with journalists than with people who have a stake in the events they are witnessing. Her report indicates (transcript via Suburban Guerilla, courtesy Democratic Underground):

1. BP is playing down concerns over the safety of exposure to oil and chemical fumes, and attributing ailments and symptoms to causes that strain credulity. In addition, it is, as we reported earlier, making it well nigh impossible for responders to obtain respirators (the method is bureaucratic impediments: they not only need to prepare an OSHA form, but need an evaluation by “a medical professional”. Pray tell, how many people have the time and money to do that? (The detail of the interview indicates a Catch 22 in action). And again as reported here, BP is refusing to employ workers who bring their own respirators, even those OSHA rules workers to provide them.

2. Cleanup measures are far less aggressive than depicted to the media and visiting politicians:

So basically, this whole “ponies and balloons” act — if someone does not come in and properly oversee this response — our marsh now is being used as a boom. an overworked (?) boom, a big, giant sponge. It’s on both sides of us. It will fill up, it is filling up, constantly. We have heavy, heavy crude penetrating our marsh right now as we speak. They deploy , and then they pull ‘em back in when the politicians leave and this is not acceptable!

They’re not cleaning it up; they’re covering it up! This is, we’re barely into this. This could go on for years and years and they are already cutting costs! Cutting costs, cutting corners, taking shortcuts is why we are all sittin’ in this room today.

Enough is enough!

Now, as far as EPA, OSHA, NOAA, BP, and the federal government , they every one of them’s in collaboration with each other. That comes from someone at the top of NOAA. That’s who I’ve been talking to. They gave me someone at the top of NOAA. But, they’re all in collaboration with BP.

Please watch this video (hat tip Lambert Strether and Frank A):

Update 6:40 PM. Wow, talk about censorship! If you click on the video above, you will see it has been “removed by the user.” Michael Panzner kindly provided a current link per below:

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  1. readerOfTeaLeaves

    I hope this woman has the persistence and smarts of Erin Brockovitch, and that we see a whole lot more women very much like her.

    Riki Ott has written one of the clearest, most compelling explanations of the biological implications of oil pollutants (including her description of the role of petrochemical toxins in breast cancer) that I’ve ever read. The women in Louisiana and the Gulf Coast would be wise to avail themselves of Ott’s knowledge; indeed, their lives now depend upon it.

    The description after the 13:00 mark of the suffocating, dying schools of fish are the most clear description that I’ve yet heard of what has surely occurred.

  2. Rex

    I saw that video of Kindra Arnesen talking at the Gulf Emergency Summit yesterday. Quite a personal and moving account.

    I wonder how she got access to BP meetings. I suspect they thought she would be easier to manage and control than she turned out to be. Glad she was able to share her direct and informed account of a set of events down there.

  3. Gary Anderson

    I often wonder what oil rain would do to the red neck states of Mississippi with that mouthy Haley Barbour, and Alabama. I have noticed that these governors of these two states have really been quiet.

    I can only say that my wife’s experience with BP in the late 90s, when they took over ARCO were quite unpleasant. This company is a greedy, good for nothing leech upon society. It is unfortunate that the Gulf of Mexico is bearing the brunt of this exposure of this pitiful company.

  4. doc holiday

    What a shock that NOAA, EPA, OSHA, NASA, Homeland Security and a very long list of goons, like judges and cops are protecting oil corporations — that’s what fascist organizations do, they protect corporate interests that provide them with cash. Obviously, there are a lot of flies buzzing around BP these days.

    I was really amazed at NASA’s website the other day, how they have almost realtime satellite imagery of shit that’s happening, like say, Hurricane Celia or brand new cutting-edge stuff — but obviously, they are not providing any images of the Gulf???? Does anyone still think this is reality — when NASA is covering BP’s ass and NASA is involved in collusion and conspiracy?

    Yes, it’s true NASA does have a small oil-spill webpage called … well, now I can’t even find it, but I do see a link that says 7th graders have found a cave on Mars — too fucking bad no one at NASA gives a shit about the Gulf Of Mexico! Excuse my language — but WTF is going on with NOAA feeding falsified data and NASA blowing off its responsibility to American citizens — or don’t we matter anymore? It’s bad enough that we have TARP and a corrupt Treasury, SEC, DOJ, FTC … but the insanity is overwhelming at this point!!!!

    This is just crazy … you go to the NASA webpages and they have photos from April 25th — if you can hunt them down. Is there really a reason for a media blackout at this stage? What are they F’ing trying to hide besides hundreds of miles of oil on beaches and dead animals? Isn’t it obvious this is a massive mess — and if it is obvious, why try to cover it up and then look corrupt and evil — as if your hiding something else that is super critical beyond the obvious, like … so what is that something else?

    Is it just the simple truth that people in the Gulf need to fool as many people as possible about vacations or seafood, is it really that simple, or is this a lot more evil — like BP is spreading a tsunami wave of Gulf War Syndrome-like problems into the environment — and maybe Kindra Arnesen is a hell of a lot more believable than anyone else, and maybe there are a lot of people about to become very sick? It would be nice to sense some honesty, before the hurricanes blow in!!!!

    See 7th grade link: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/features/kids_find_cave.html

      1. bob

        You have to ask around down there, someone has a copy of that show.

        I looked pretty well in some very hard to find places and I can’t find a copy anywhere. Someone has it on their dvr, they need to torrent it.

          1. Skippy

            Gassed in the Gulf: New Gulf War Syndrome

            The petro-chemical-military-industrial complex is gassing Gulf Coast residents with poisonous Benzene and Corexit dispersant at dangerously high levels in the largest U.S. domestic military operation to date. The military and FEMA are engaged in Emergency Plans for 36 urban areas from Texas to Florida due to the unstoppable Gulf oil volcano the size of Mt. Everest, as WMR reports, indicating evacuations. Some people are advised to relocate now. (See Parts III and IV)

            Satellite imagery that Obama’s administration withheld shows “under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public,” writes Wayne Madsen.


            Skippy…M*&%er F*@#er!!

          2. bob

            Excellent work. I didn’t even think to check for mobile content. I did go back to usenet and found a text post from someone looking for advice on how to post that episode, but the text of post itself had been erased, only the subject remained.

  5. Doc Holiday

    Oil may pose a hazard for humans, too


    The lack of certainty led the U.S. Institute of Medicine, health arm of the National Academy of Sciences, to hastily convene a symposium of experts in New Orleans on Tuesday and Wednesday seeking better understanding.

    “Some scientists say there’s little or no toxicity from the oil,” U.S. Surgeon General Regina Benjamin told the group. “Others express serious concerns.”

    ==> I see CDC is also full of crap:

    2-butoxyethanol, also called butyl cellosolve, is a widely used cleaning agent. The potential human health effects of 2-butoxyethanol have been studied. Dispersants containing 2-butoxyethanol may irritate the skin. 2-butoxyethanol vapors or mists can cause respiratory irritation such as coughing.

    CDC fails to provide research links or papers that provide data on the human studies, and instead offer the following solid science:

    The NIOSH REL is intended to minimize potential long-term health effects to workers, primarily hemolysis of red blood cells (RBCs). Hemolysis of RBCs has been found in animals exposed to 2-butoxyethanol, but recent data suggests that human RBCs are less susceptible to these effects.

    > recent data???? From where the GOM?

    What about this find:::::

    Wear overalls, chemical goggles or safety spectacles with
    sideshields, and butyl or nitrile gloves. Where atmospheric
    concentrations may exceed the exposure standard, for example,
    during the cleanup of spills, wear an organic vapour respirator.
    Ensure that all personal protective equipment complies with the
    relevant Australian Standards. Wash contaminated clothing or
    equipment before re-use or storage. Ensure good personal hygiene.”

    That is from:

    NUMBER 6

    OCTOBER 1996

    I guess a lot has changed with spill cleanups and toxic shit since 1996 and of course, BP doesn’t want people to be safe in America!

  6. Neil D

    We should evacuate the oil spill region and make everyone who works on the clean up wear space suits. It’s too dangerous.

  7. lambert strether

    Arneson’s money quote:

    “We are expendable to these people. We do not matter.”

    Exactly. And that goes for everything, not just BP, and especially for both legacy parties and their owners, the banksters.

    1. Neil D

      Or perhaps they are expendable to all of us here in America. We must have our SUVs, boats, and all manner of energy guzzling gadgets.

      So what if a few low-class types get a headache cleaning up after us?

      Harsh? Perhaps, but then we aren’t really doing much to reduce our demand for oil and gas. We’d rather send soldiers to die in Iraq and Afghanistan than sacrifice ourselves. Go shopping!

      It’s really hard to take all this righteous indignation seriously.

  8. Mickey Marzick in Akron, Ohio

    While heartbreaking and riveting as Ms. Arneson’s account is, WE did this to ourselves. For well-over 30 years the “free-market” mantra with less government and less regulation has been the rule. But often-overlooked is that while the private sector was offshored the federal government was outsourced and “privatized”.

    Is it just a coincidence that the federal government seems unable to respond, to marshall the resources, to do anything effectively – wage war, Katrina, subprime, the GOM – so that it is blamed for these disasters and not the private sector? “Starving the beast” isn’t only about tax revenue, but depriving the government of competence and expertise as well or, at minimum, interfering/obstructing any and/or all efforts at remediation so as to discredit/delegitimize it even further – to make it IMPOTENT! How many examples of gross negligence and incompetence in each and every one of these disasters have surfaced to paint “government” as ineffective and incompetent – WHY? CUI BONO?

    More the cumulative effect of the less government and deregulatory policies alluded to above than a “deliberate” conspiracy, the consequence is that when we look to the federal government for action we find to our bewilderment that it isn’t there. It is simply incapable of responding effectively when it has to because this is what less government and deregulation mean. Even more paradoxical is why we look to the federal government for a solution. After all, it’s the problem and not the solution. Remember that line?

    Eacerbating this is the dumbing down and point-and-click mentality that fosters the illusion that “change we can believe in” is NOW and when it doesn’t happen immediately disillusionment and despair quickly set in. Anyone who has worked in a large scale organization – public or private – knows that they don’t usually respond that quickly. The bureacracy moves at its own pace based on past practice and instituional rules/inertia. To think otherwise is naive. Why would the federal government be any different? Or is that the complaint? But then ask yourself why it can’t?

    So after 30 years of less government and deregulation the federal government is supposed to wave a magic wand and undo the consequences overnight within the framework of constitutional government. It ain’t gonna’ happen and believing otherwise is immature and irresponsible. To some this will appear as little more than an apology for the Obama Administration – a sell out. But come this November in the midterm elections and 2012, when the anger, frustration, and disillusionment with “change we can believe in” manifests itself with the defection of independents and “loyal” Democrats to anything with a ‘D’ beside it, ask yourself if you want to hand the federal government back to the adherents of less government and less regulation that brought US to this point. Because that’s what you’ll be doing. Make no mistake about it!

    If you subscribe to the belief that doing so or not voting at all will “immiserate” the underclass into revolting and then blog about the “fascist, police state” baring its fangs for all to see while safely ensconced from the violence doesn’t even warrant comment. To knowingly and deliberately make conditions worse for others in order to make them better for all at some time in the future is morally bankrupt. Isn’t this the very same strategy – the means- employed by BP and any other irresponsible corporation that deems the cost of sacrifice by some to be in the interests of US all? Of course, it never occurred to US that, as Ms. Arneson so poignantly stated, WE are [now] expendable.

    1. jacob richter

      Right, stick with that forced choice – yours has worked out so well so far. The looting will only intensify until people coalesce on something that rips both parties apart. It has to be based on civil society, not parties, and it has to be inimical to both: positive rights, anticorruption, either would work. Your superior compassion is worth shit if you don’t get results.

      1. Mickey Marzick in Akron, Ohio


        In the meantime while you’re building this new coalition, what will the adherents of less government and less regulation funded by corporate America be doing? Standing still? Are you willing to give them control of the federal government for another 30 years while you transform civil society from below? Will there be anything left to transform cause at this rate there sure as hell won’t be much left to loot?

        Transforming civil society will take time… [And by the way, I agree with your “revolution from below” and have stated such elsewhere.] With the first whiff of pie in the sky though, you will lose your audience. For as you said results are what matter. But how do you stop, or at a minimum slow down, the consequences of less government and less regulation by giving its adherents more power during this transformation? Don’t we have to transform and slowdown – do both at the same time? One longterm goal coupled with one short term goal?

        This is the hole we’ve dug and knowing when to stop digging is the first step. Are we even there yet? Listening to and reading the comments of some pundits and Congresspersons apologize for BP or minimize the damage suggests we’re not. But it has taken 30 years or more to get here, will it take another generation or two to undo it?

        I’m not happy with what I suggested but if we can’t stop or slow down this bullet train to AUSTERITY within the existing two party system while transforming civil society from below, will the latter even have a chance to succeed?
        I don’t know what you’re timeframe is but it’s what we do between now and then that will determine the outcome. What is the immediate short term goal within the longterm transformational strategy? Don’t we need both?

        Recall that Christianity was a radical sect in its early days, with its members much ridiculed and despised, persecuted, and even executed for their beliefs, but eventually this set of beliefs conquered the Roman Empire. It took 300 hundred years… Remember that. But in the end… perhaps what happens in the short term may not matter.

  9. Dwight Baker



    I have a clear vision of the things done wrong that caused the blow out. I think it is a good thing for us to continue to think about how, when and more importantly why. Who called out the fire fighting ships? That is a big no no in off shore rig fire. The water sunk the Deep Horizon now who and why.

    Next big question for me that has gone un-answered with proof of facts is: what is all this Grand Collusion about from our President down the food chain pecking order in DC.

    A recent video from a survivor blasting out for help gives a big hint:

    What does forced Austerity look like?
    By Dwight Baker
    June 24, 2010

    Visitors to the coastal communities of southern Louisiana report an eery silence.

    The people are still there, but they’re not talking.

    It’s been made clear to them that their only hope of economic salvation – now that the fishery that provides 30% of the US seafood has been destroyed – is clean up work.

    And that work is controlled by BP.

    “Talk and your lifeline is cut.”

    Here’s one person willing to talk…





    Then my next big question gone on unanswered is Anadarko CEO Jim Hackett in bed with Rockefeller and Rothschild in some planned attack against the Largest independent in the USA?

    The next big question I have is the R&R Barons of oil and banking for over 130 years NEW WORLD ORDER LEADERS decided to turn our gulf in the same environmental hazard that the BAKU is today?

    Last big question Are there enough mature men and women around today to raise their minds, will and voices in ONE ACCORD and demand the thugs inside the beltway of DC and Wall Street start their jets and run away?

    A final note the G-20 BANKING UN-ELECTED THUGS CALLED BANKERS paid one billion out for security for this conference. Does that send a fear up your spine, not mine. They all know their crooked game is up when we say so!

  10. Vinny

    This lady has a lot more class than the average British person. Any American red neck has far more class than your average British individual. As I wrote here before, the British remain a nation of degenerate, alcoholic, perverted, inbred mutants, of which Tony Haywire or whatever his name may be, is a typical specimen.

    I have lived in the UK, so I use the labels above because I have observed those degenerates first hand, in their own decrepit habitat. Corporations such as BP are merely a reflection of their national degeneration and complete moral, mental, and physical decay.

    Also, years ago I operated a small company exporting high tech products across the world. We had dealers across most English-speaking nations such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, the UK, and the US. However, we had more trouble, were cheated and lied to, and were ripped off more by our dealers in the UK than the rest of the world combined. The UK represented only about 5 percent of our income, but over 80 percent of our troubles. Our experience was replicated by many of our competitors operating in the same markets.

    Britain truly is a nation of low-class scumbags. Therefore, to expect British Petroleum to act differently from the way they have been acting thus far is synonymous to asking a Neanderthal to perform advanced calculus. They just can’t do it because it is not in their nature to do it.

    PS — I really do enjoy whipping BP’s and other various British ass here. It’s almost as much fun as watching USA win the World Cup :)

  11. RHS

    I am tired of this bullshit. I am BP and I will set the record strait. Yes I masturbated. The problem is I cant feel most of the sensation like many who suffer from Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD). However the longer you wait the more sensation will return. It was at about 20% of normal when I did it. I waited a long time and thought I was no longer under surveillance. I was wrong. But if you want to learn more about PSSD, go to this support group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/. This wiki page is also helpful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-SSRI_sexual_dysfunction.

    This sexual dysfunction is not like any other dysfunction you are aware of. Its not about being able to get an erection, its about being able to feel it and have desire for sex, though sometimes erections are a problem. That is the truth and if you are a good reporter you will seek it. Because of the subject matter people are understandably quesy about talking about. I hope this sets the record strait. I welcome reporters to join the Yahoo support group so they can read the varied affects SSRI has on sex even after they are no longer used.

    1. Vinny

      You wrote: “I am tired of this bullshit. I am BP and I will set the record strait. Yes I masturbated.”

      Okay, let me make sure I got this right. You admit to being Tony Hayward, and you now confess to masturbating during your recent Congressional hearing. Thank you for letting us know. We all appreciate your honesty, Mr. Hayward.


  12. RHS

    Here is a resnt post from the forum I suggested above. This is not my post but of another PSSD suffer that will not be named

    Hi everybody

    I ‘d like to share my thoughts with you on PSSD, and the various attempts to treat this condition. I ‘ve been following this group for a couple of years now, and I ‘ve rarely posted. I should start by saying that I am a 34-year-old resident of neurology, suffering from chronic depression. I ‘ve been on SSRIs on and off for some 7 years, and the last 2 I have never had my sex drive back.(along with my emotions). I recently read this post by a psychiatrist who answered a question about PSSD in the internet saying that this is really a symptom of recurring depression, and not proven in the literature, besides some case reports etc..

    That really made me furious and sad at the same time. It is a tragedy that the scientific community has not yet realised the existence of this condition. And to think that I am part of it has made me reconsider a lot about psychiatric treatments.

    1. PSSD has not been proven….OF COURSE IT HASN’T!!! But if you take a good look at the time it took for the side effects of various drugs to become realised, you can understand why. : It took us 30 YEARS to realise that Vigabatrin(an antiepileptic) causes irreversible blindness in a minority of people….that’s because it is UNUSUAL, so the link could not be easily established. The same applies to the sexual side effects of SSRIs…Initially the label of Prozac talked about 3-5% of sexual dysfunction. Now in every psychiatric textbook it is mentioned to be in the rate of 50%..Why? Because patients were ashamed to mention it, asexual, or just too happy to care. So it is not surprising that psychiatrists are not aware of it. Especially since PSSD symptoms overlap with depressive symptoms. And of course the situation is even more challenging because probably many ppeople who claim to have PSSD actually dont.

    2. This psychiatrist mentioned that “no study has shown it happen with SSRIs”.. Wow…If ANY scientist tells it to you, then just ASK : can you point to A SINGLE study that has specifically assessed formerly sexually active people who took SSRIs for AT LEAST 1 YEAR (since this is usually the minimum time someone is placed on antidepressants) AND LOST THEIR SEX DRIVE, during that time, FOR THE TIME IT TOOK IT TO RETURN TO BASELINE AFTER QUITTING? The asnwer is simply THERE IS NONE. Noone has specifically assessed this in a systematic manner. And imagine that many people remain for years on antidepressants. For me PSSD came after 5 years of intermittent use, whereas in the early years every time I quit my sex drive would rebound during the first month of quitting. Another related fact is that THERE IS NO STUDY ASSESSING THE VERY LONG TERM SIDE EFFECTS OF ANTIDEPRESSANTS (ie 10 years). Any psychiatrist with a truly scientific background will acknowledge this. Such a study would be very difficult to perform.

    3. Trying Dopamine agonists (or any other dopamine related drug like methylphenidate or dexamphetamine) is a risky choice. If you have been depressed and have PSSD, your brain chemistry is already compromised. Messing with the brain’s reward and motor system is not such a good idea. These drugs are made for people with parkinson’s disease and Restless legs syndrome (although I try to avoid them as much as I can in the latter case). Long term use (years) of these drugs increases significantly your risks of impulse control disorders, (gambling, shopping, etc), sleep attacks, paranoid delusions,leg swelling, and dyskinesias (be aware that tardive dyskinesia happens with these drugs as well, although it is not very publicised, and if you do get it, believe me, it will make PSSD look like a minor nuisance-have a look at the website at wemove.org for it). To think that (especially in the USA) so many children are given ritalin for years, is in my opinion, a crime. It is turning them into addicts, and again, the very long term effects are not studied. What happens to these children when they go off after 10 years of using stimulants?? Who can point to a SINGLE study on that??

    4. Trying any other so called “natural” treatment with herbs that will help you restore your sexual functioning is not that innocent at all. If it increases your sex drive, then it IS psychoactive, and it IS messing with your brain chemistry. Furthermore, you don’t know the long term effects of taking it. You are still taking a risk. The safest way to go is to wait for the brain to rebalance.

    5. There is another side to all of this : some people REALLY need antidepressants. For these people depression isn’t a mild, transient period in their life and therapy can’t do anything. So it becomes really a tradeoff between being depression-free but with side-effects and being dead. If you have taken SSRI’s because of an anxiety disorder due to a stressful life event and got PSSD, you were very unlucky. I can understand your anger. But try to keep a balanced view : there IS a use for antidepressants, it just should be prudent. Don’t take it on SSRIs as drugs from hell, because they have helped tremendously some people.

    Sorry for the lengthy post, I hope I haven’t tired you.
    Best of luck to everybody

  13. I'm blind to reason

    Wear overalls, chemical goggles or safety spectacles with
    sideshields, and butyl or nitrile gloves. Where atmospheric
    concentrations may exceed the exposure standard, for example,
    during the cleanup of spills, wear an organic vapour respirator.
    Ensure that all personal protective equipment complies with the
    relevant Australian Standards. Wash contaminated clothing or
    equipment before re-use or storage. Ensure good personal hygiene.”

    * So BP says nix on the respirator during exposure… why?

    1. Skippy

      Well for starters it makes for a damn bad PR image, too see a Chernobyl like response, regarding the clean up when your message is: ITS ALL CLEAR / MOVE ALONG / GO BUY SOME SEAFOOD /COME AND SIT ON OUR CLEAN BEACHES.

      Skippy…35 years of exeriance with VOC’s tells me their screwed.

  14. Dwight Baker


    Well there ya go Skippy, some folks around the Gulf just talk oil field rough neck — some trailer trash red neck and some OKIES living down there talk red dirt, rough neck, red neck yep they talk real. Like in the days when tribes of men sat around a campfire and discussed how to hunt and kill the biggest beast to feed their families.

    Yet today in DC and New York too mankind has been so dumbed down they talk with malt-o-meal mentality. Meaning Yes might not mean YES and NO should never cross their lips or they might miss a paycheck.

    Yet from the camp fire days then on into slavery then with small plays to give folks hope born in Greece then on into Merry Ole England Humor was used to tell the tales of horror to make all aware with the twist of making folks listen for the humor. And that is what Skippy, RHS, and Vinny and more on this site commenting proves still works today.

    There is NOT one thing funny about what is going on in our Rich and Abundant America today. “It is sin sick hideous tortuous and convoluted to bring humanity to question him and herself being worthy to continuing living. And the times we are living through today was planned thirty years ago by the elite dietist YES that bunch of mindless godless, spineless, aristocrats the powers controlling mankind now going on 150 years.

    So back to communication about recent events ranges from—F__K all those dirty S-O-B all the way too I wish I could understand. That is as brief as some of the comments are. So what is missing? People are hungry to get the facts but they will not under any circumstance drink in the TRUTH of HISTORY for they simply do not have the time.

    Now Kindra bridges that gap just fine, she talks with her heart. WHY it is breaking!

    Now compare Kindra dialog and Anderson Cooper to really see the difference.

    1. Skippy

      The willfully ignorant have just got a room call, lets see how they adapt, religions of the mind scrubbed with steel wool, images of Goya’s work, time to get our ancestor on…but will this fix anything..I fear not. The capacity for humans to be caught in a real time dream loop is like dopamine drugs…addictive and once withdrawn have even worse side effects.

      Skippy…I forget whom said it “life is a study in toxicology” and boy did we increase the background.

  15. Dwight Baker

    Fredrick Douglas [a freed slave] did not find the form of Government in America to be much help for him to get along. So he put down his ideas long ago worth reading today to see how far we have strayed.
    By Dwight Baker July 26, 2009



    America is false to the past, false to the present, and solemnly binds herself to be false to the future.

    At a time like this, a scorching iron, not convincing argument, is needed.

    Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong, which will be imposed on them.

    I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.

    If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

    It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.

    It is not light that we need, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake.

    No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck.

    Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

    The life of a nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful, and virtuous.

    The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose.

    The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion.

    To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker.

    Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.


  16. Bernard

    we are screwed down here in south Louisiana. the oil people wont ever admit there is a problem with drilling. until the oil runs out or they stop hiring people to work in the industry, those who live in the same place have to accept that oil is what matters most/can buy politicians. that is what we are seeing now here. the scale of the theft/buying of politicians is what is the “issue” here. we know about buying politicians, Huey Long, Edwin Edwards proved that. lol

    the fishermen and those others can suck it up.and get used to it. nowadays that also means oil in the air/ water. maybe we will pass on a gene that will help our children adapt to the oil that is now in us. talk about an “Oil” based carbon unit. lol

    our land has been washing away for years due to the service canals the oil industry dug to get to the oil rigs, “quicker”. which let the salt water kill it.

    and now the oil is coating what is left of it.

    1. D. Warbucks

      It’s good to maintain a sense of humor as you are slowly killed by toxic chemicals.

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