Links 7/13/16

Before European Christians Forced Gender Roles, Native Americans Acknowledged 5 Genders Bipartisan Report (Chuck L). Gender role stereotyping sucks.

Monsanto Democrats Attempt to Kill Vermont DownWithTyranny

Half of all US food produce is thrown away, new research suggests |Guardian (Brian C). Sheesh.

A Bird’s-Eye View of Nature’s Hidden Order Quanta (David L)

Trick or tweet, or both? How social media is messing up politics New Scientist (David L). I find this to be outrageous. How about the misinformation dispensed on a daily basis by the MSM? I also have to note that in the link identifier detail, which I strip out so as not to help the police state figure out where we got our links, this link repeatedly had a term I’ve never seen before, “webpush”.


Second EU referendum petition to be debated in Parliament after receiving more than 4m signatures Independent. Could get to this number and more by people employed by the City or broadly dependent on it. But will help May in backing out. However, I still believe that ignoring the vote will come at a much higher cost to the Tories than the party understands. And a second referendum risks reconfirmation, since the EU is not going to offer any sweetners, unlike other past do-overs. What happens then?

UK: Corbyn survives vote to remain on Labour ballot Al Jazeera

What can you even say about this? I hope Corbyn’s people have good lawyers. @ronanburtenshaw (Richard Smith)

The Media Against Jeremy Corbyn Jacobin

Back in the Spotlight: The Central Banker Who Is ‘Running’ Britain Wall Street Journal

David Cameron: I leave Britain a ‘stronger country with a thriving economy and more chances to get on’ Telegraph. More Tory delusion syndrome. It’s not that Cameron said it. It’s that a lot of people will believe it.

The Promise of Regrexit George Soros, Project Syndicate. Soros acting as a face of the “roll back Brexit” position is not a plus in selling it. He also pushes for having the EU agree on “exceptional measures” to improve the Union, including “the EU should put its excellent and largely untapped credit to use.” Over Germany’s dead body.

Cameron leaves unfinished business Financial Times

BOE’s Possible Rate Cut Won’t Offset All Brexit Ills, Say Economists Wall Street Journal

Bank of Spain governor says no ECB estimate of Brexit impact until Sept Reuters

Jean-Claude Juncker’s survival strategy Politico


Global arms race escalates as sabres rattle in South China Sea Telegraph (David L)

South China Sea: A $5-trillion shipping route central to the global economy Globe and Mail

How China doesn’t play fair on trade CNN

Something very worrying seems to be happening in China’s jobs market Business Insider

Abe’s surreal election victory Lowy Institute. Lambert: “Abe’s price for TPP, which obama paid. What could go wrong?”

Refugee Crisis

Italy new ‘frontline’ in Europe’s refugee crisis, warns Frontex chief euronews (furzy)

What It Took To Rescue 26 Refugees From The Middle Of The Sea Huffington Post (furzy)

Venezuela’s Maduro Announces Changes to Top Military Command Venezuelan Analyst


Russian Harassment and Other Fables American Conservative (resilc)


New IDF Chief Rabbi Says Soldiers Can Rape Arab Women During Wartime to Boost Morale Free Thought Project (Judy B)

Is Kerry Right? Are Freemen of Syria and Army of Islam Radical Terrorists? Juan Cole

Big Brother is Watching You Watch

In first, U.S. judge throws out cell phone ‘stingray’ evidence Reuters (furzy). Hooray!

9th Circuit: It’s a federal crime to visit a website after being told not to visit it Washington Post

Trade Traitors

Latest Leak Shows How TTIP Puts US-EU Clean Energy Goals in ‘Mortal Danger Common Dreams

Clinton E-mail Hairball

Clinton legal team moves to block deposition in email lawsuit Politico (furzy)


Chin up Carl Beijer. Martha r: “From 6/15 but immediately relevant.”

Here’s what Bernie Sanders’s Hillary Clinton endorsement is really about Washington Post. Lambert: “‘Another such endorsement and we are undone.’ :-)” Only problem with this theory is that the Clinton camp will now take the word “endorsement” and write their own story about it.

Bernie’s Endorsement Blues Politico

What Bernie Sanders Meant FiveThirtyEight (resilc)

Prepared Remarks: Portsmouth Organizing Event with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders (Kevin C)

Should the Democratic Party Be Added to the Endangered-Species List? William Greider, Nation

Clinton vetting retired Adm. James Stavridis for VP Politico. This is a very recent addition, and I don’t see it as helping Clinton in her vital electoral college calculus. This looks more like another headfake. Warren was to mess with Sanders voters, this may be to scare Trump into picking former General Flynn, who is less helpful to Trump in getting votes than other candidates rumored to be higher on his short list.

Republican convention 2016: GOP operatives dread Trump convention Politico

Fox News suspending ties with Trump veep possibility Gingrich CNN (furzy)

Dive into Donald Trump’s thousands of lawsuits USA Today

Justice Ginsburg on Trump: ‘He is a faker,’ should share tax returns CNN. Appalling to see a SC Justice meddle in a Presidential election. She’s reduced herself to the level of Scalia. As Lambert put it, “The sucking vortex of Clinton need tarnishes another reputation.”.

Co-founding Minuteman gets 19 years in Arizona prison for sex abuse Reuters (furzy)

Police State Watch

Military Robotics Makers See a Future for Armed Police Robots Defense One (resilc)

A real-life robocop patrolling Silicon Valley allegedly ran over a child in a mall Business Insider (David L)

After Dallas Shootings, Police Arrest People for Criticizing Cops on Facebook and Twitter Intercept (resilc)

Alton Sterling Witness: Cops Took My Phone, My Surveillance Video, Locked Me Up Daily Beast


New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal Reuters (furzy)

Great American Oil Bust Rages on; Defaults, Bankruptcies Soar Wolf Richter

BOJ helicopter triggers full blown reflation panic MacroBusiness

HSBC escaped US money-laundering charges after Osborne’s intervention Guardian (resilc)

Eric Holder’s Longtime Excuse for Not Prosecuting Banks Just Crashed and Burned Intercept (furzy)

Class Warfare

NYT Lets $27 Million Man Brag About What He’s Doing for Income Inequality FAIR (Judy B). That $27 million figure is a great understatement. Bloomberg puts his net worth as $1.1 billion.

Economic Scene: With Competition in Tatters, the Rip of Inequality Widens New York Times

The Lack of High-Quality Early-Education Programs Disadvantages America’s Children Atlantic (furzy). Hate “disadvantage” as a verb. And research on Head Start shows the benefits of early education persist only if the effort is maintained in later schooling.

Americans’ appetite for stuff slowing down Business Insider (furzy). For the old, not having enough on which to retire, and for the young, not having job security and/or not being able to buy a house will do that.

Antidote du jour. Anne:

Apparently, the bears ARE coming! n my neck of the woods (about 30 miles north of Baltimore), which is generally fairly rural (we’re on 6 acres, about half of which is wooded, and which is surrounded by several hundred acres of woods and corn/soybean fields), we have been seeing a fair number of bears. My son-in-law captured a photo of one on the motion-activated camera he positions in our woods so he can track the deer activity (he hunts during the season), and this guy apparently ran across the road and into a field just west of Interstate 83 at Mt. Carmel Road. In a local Facebook group I belong to, people have reported encountering them on some of the local hiking trails, and another group member went into his back yard to right a bird feeder that had come down and startled a bear into shimmying up a tree.

bear links

See yesterday’s Links and Antidote du Jour here.

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  1. EndOfTheWorld

    RE: Clinton vetting Admiral Stavridis: He’s not only military but (I’m guessing) Greek. The Greeks are famous for being both loyal to their heritage and big contributors, always foremost in the minds of Camp Clinton. Yes, the veepstakes is nothing but a lot of headfakes, but Trump could well tap the famous hog castrator Joni Ernst, retired light colonel, thereby checking off the “military” and “female” blocks in one fell swoop. I think the Bernie camp had this in mind by floating Tulsi Gabbard.

    1. EndOfTheWorld

      Plus Joni is in an important swing state–Iowa. Trouble is she is evidently dumber than a box of rocks, but that has never deterred anybody before in the veep selection process. In fact, it’s an advantage—as in anti-assassination insurance.

    2. NotTimothyGeithner

      So the “foreign policy” candidate needs an admiral for a running mate…hmm…I suspect Team Blue is finding out Iraq and “Democratic smart wars” don’t poll very well.

      1. Skip Intro

        If you’re gonna pick a team to start a war with Russia, a NATO general might be a good start.
        God help us all.

      1. Procopius

        Thanks for the clarification. Thanks for the link. Hillary’s hawkish record worries me a lot. I’m concerned she’s too much influenced by the Kagan family.

  2. Anne

    Re: the Antidote photo – it wasn’t taken by my son-in-law, but by one of the members of the local community Facebook group.

    A new sighting, from another member:

    Bear sighting! At approximately 6:55am this morning, I saw a black bear cross the road right in front of me. I was going North on Falls, toward Middletown Road. It crossed West to East, approximately at the point where the guardrail is on the West side. It climbed the fence and, as of 6:55am this morning, it is now between 83 and Falls Road in the fenced-in area and might be there now. I was unable to get my camera out in time to get a shot of her in the road, but got video as I pulled up next to it. You can hear her climbing, but can see her better, once I start driving next to her, after she gets over the fence. (I am assuming it is a she, btw.) The bear is as high as the fence is on Falls Road. 5 or so feet tall. HUGE!

    No idea whether it’s the same bear as the one in the photo, but clearly, they’re here!

    1. Eclair

      We are visiting in Chautauqua County, southwestern NY state. Talking to neighbors this week, they reported a bear sighting this spring by their back yard bird feeder, where they said the bear was so fat she/he was lying on the ground, just shoveling bird seed into her mouth. Another neighbor sighted a back yard bear last week. But, it has been a dry spring and early summer here, so maybe back country food is a bit low.

      Bear are a nice addition to the ever-present deer and turkeys.

    2. craazyman

      that could be a bigfoot in a bear costume.

      look how tall it is.

      how can you be certain its a bear? that seems like you’re jumping to conclusions.

        1. craazyman

          there have been quite a lot of bigfoot sightings in the Baltimore area.

          several years back some construction workers were scared out of their minds by a 12 foot tall hairy ape running around on 2 legs at about 1 a.m. It made the local papers. No kidding.

          that would scare me out of my mind. I’ll be honest. I’d rather see a bear for sure.

          1. NotTimothyGeithner

            There should be Big Foot sightings from Ohio to Indiana when the acorns don’t drop because the leaves that make acorns were eaten by the cicadas with the largest brood going through. Since the bears will be foraging in the winter due to not building up their body mass, they will be active during their hibernation phase, further proof of Big Foot. Why yes, I did use to be eleven years old.

            There was a big foot sighting nearby during the last acorn shortage, and the people who saw it knew it wasn’t a bear because it was too skinny and they had seen bears and not at that time of year.

            1. Synapsid


              Leaves don’t make acorns, flowers do. Oaks have tiny flowers; the ones I’ve seen are green.

              1. Oregoncharles

                But they need the leaves to make the necessary starch, cellulose, etc. Solar energy, you know.

          2. craazyman

            yu guys think I’m making this up!

            this should be a link tomorrow, there’s no doubt


            but most people who think money is a particle with properties like velocity and liquidity — and then they actually try to use calculus and classical statistical methods to measure it, can you believe it??? AND they actually get Nobel Prizes! I’m not kidding. It”s hilarious.– are so delusional they can’t see what’s real if it’s right in front of them. there’s no hope, really, without Divine Intervention.

            It’s really a form of conceptual psychosis.

    3. crittermom

      This video is in today’s Denver Post, regarding a different bear. It includes a link to an article last year about a horn-honking bear.
      Incidents such as this are not that uncommon in Colorado.

      Not sure if car insurance covers such an incident? May depend on your carrier?
      I was told my homeowners insurance (major company) wouldn’t cover such damage if a bear, porcupine or other critter entered my home & inflicted damage. (“Act of nature”)

    4. Anne

      This may not be the same bear, as the location is about 10 miles up the road from where the Antidote bear was – but I don’t know how far bears travel. This one was up in a tree, . Here’s the comment by the man who took the photo:

      So here’s a funny story…I pull into The Crab Stand to bring ya’ll another load of fresh crabs “From the boat to your throat”…and DNR is on the scene…heart pounding a little thinking…uh oh!!!…one of my competitors isn’t playing nice…the black bear that’s been making the headlines was on the scene looking for some “Guaranteed #1 Maryland Crabs” to snack on they said…c’mon I said…turned to look and sure enough there he is in the tree behind The Crab Stand by Stonebridge Grille…

    1. polecat

      ‘Transparent Aluminum’ ………..Bones: “You’ll be rich beyond the kings of avarice!”

  3. timoetheus

    Native Americans and gender: true in part, but it is annoying to see “Native Americans” characterized as a single entity. This makes as much sense as asserting that “African” culture was thus and so pre-colonization. Back in the 1970s Walter Williams wrote The Spirit and the Flesh about the many native cultures that bent gender roles, such as the Sioux and the Zuni, but a minority of tribes did not make room for diversity in this way (eg. Apaches IIRC). It says something about our poor sense of the native peoples our ancestors eliminated that blanket statements like these slide past us. I am reminded of the famous 1930s photo of a generic “Indian” paddling around the lake in Central Park purporting to be a Lenape while wearing a war bonnet from one of the plains tribes.

    1. RabidGandhi

      I agree, the article made way too many generalisations. Since they came here, Europeans have never stopped trying to impose their own cultural views on native cultures. Now that the prevailing wind in Western culture blows toward LGBT rights and multiple gender roles, it is no longer Augustine’s prudishness that is being imposed on natives but rather liberal gender roles. In both cases, the constant is that the actual autochthonous cultures– most of which are more accepting of pansexuality and have less rigidly defined genders– are silenced.

        1. ex-PFC Chuck

          If Europe were a single culture the European Union wouldn’t be disintegrating as we speak.

          1. ChiGal

            If the Anglos who colonized America were a single culture we wouldn’t be disintegrating as we speak.

            cf Albion

  4. Roger Smith

    Re: Clinton legal team moves to block deposition in email lawsuit Politico (furzy)

    Some weeks ago I, and at least one other commentor I saw, noticed that Judicial Watch reporting started to include the qualifier… “conservative group”. I do not know anything about Judicial Watch’s background but from what I had read they seemed to be a generic watchdog operation.

    Fast-forward to this article. Before “Judicial Watch” is even mentioned we have this sentence:

    “Clinton’s attorneys submitted a legal filing Tuesday morning in a bid to shut down a conservative group’s request for an order forcing her to submit to a deposition in the midst of her presidential campaign.”

    The group’s actual name (which is irrelevant because they are conservative, right!) is mentioned in a quote that is once sentenced removed from the copy/paste above. The article itself then addresses the name after the quote. The take away, this is more conservative mumbo-jumbo set against a stellar politico (pun… up to you) of our time.

    This line of thinking is pervasive. For example there is a rather large debate about the upcoming Ghostbusters (2016) corporate cash in, er… movie. Because the cast is all female the trope for mindless drones is that all criticism is sexist… despite the fact that the movie is pointless remake of a great and well-loved film of the past. Pointless unless you decide to accept that the studio is doing this is only trying to rip open your wallets and exploit your blind nostalgia with their copyright holdings.

    The day someone decides to (seriously) remake Casablanca is the day I quit film.

    1. pretzelattack

      judicial watch started as a conservative org in the 90’s. it was usually identified as such, then.

    2. Jim Haygood

      Like the “jewish state” formulation applied to Israel, “conservative group” applied to Judicial Watch is a tendentious label with an agenda behind it.

      Presumably the MSM’s agenda is to paint Judicial Watch as being on the ideological fringe, despite their remaining active with FOIA suits during the Bush admin.

      Reject Mediathink.

        1. Jim Haygood

          Probably not. But the MSM’s agenda in repetitiously applying the label to the plaintiff in a FOIA suit buttresses the Clintons’ vintage “vast right wing conspiracy” narrative.

          1. Emma

            It appears this is only a continuation of the pervasive, overriding, and simple need, to create and demonize an enemy. In doing so, it defines an identity and validates’ certain professed values. It’s intriguing how this plays out so well within the US, despite allegedly, no lack of real enemies abroad. For a select few, there is doubtless incredible value in the usefulness of designating and portraying an enemy or threat as real, when in reality, they are not.

            1. aet

              Who voted for “Judicial Watch”, and where is that organization referred to in the Constitution?
              Why do the individuals behind “Judicial Watch” rely on their status as a corporation (an entity which ironically only has legal rights due to past right-wing judicial creativity) to bring their suits in the Courts, rather than under their own given names?
              Public relations reasons. Cranks dressing themselves up by calling themselves fancy names – setting themselves up as “protectors of the people” (like some blogs and newspapers we could name) – and then using the publicly-established and paid-for Courts to grind their own personal political axes – in other words, to perpetuate a grave political misuse of the Justice system.
              And by the way, which judges are “Judicial Watch” keeping under surveillance? Or do they advocate appointed Judges making laws for elected Legislators?
              Because they are clearly using the Courts as their political power tools – this corporation ought not to have standing to bring these actions, and its astonishing that US Courts countenance such a misuse of their limited resources.
              “Judicial Watch” itself to would lack the standing to bring their actions into Court, but for previous right-wing judicial activism granting Corporations expansive “personal” rights (one would think that Judges, who often make their observance of their religion a point of personal pride during their Confirmation Hearings, would hardly do anything so utterly blasphemous on its face so as to usurp the exclusive prerogative of the Creator in the creation of actual persons – but one would be wrong).
              This won’t do to maintain the respect and legitimacy which Judicial Watch craves for its private political opinions. For to report accurately that “Joe Crackpot, styling himself as “Judicial Swatch” has brought a lawsuit alleging personal damage from a politician’s actions”, and outside of the election process to boot, would make them sound like the political cranks they are, and always have been. The right-wing press wouldn’t like that, either – they like big-sounding names for the groups they “report” on (give publicity and currency to), otherwise they too look like they’re working together as a group spread the crankiness – and they wouldn’t want people to cotton on that that is what they are actually doing.
              In summary, it’s only because of the previous “work” of right-wing judges, that right-wing groups like this are even allowed in the Courtroom doors!

              A vast right-wing conspiracy – and you did NOT hear it first from me!

      1. Teejay

        With 7.74 million donated by Richard Melon Scaife (Wikipedia) I’m ok calling them a conservative group. While it’s true they went after Bush jr’s administration I’m inclined to believe on balance their inquiries into Clinton were pseudo malfeasance (Whitewater, Vince Foster) whereas the Bush inquiries were more substantive (energy policy in secret). Also why do you presume the MSM ‘s agenda (tendentious label) is to paint Judicial Watch as being on the ideological fringe? I didn’t need to listen to the MSM to reach that conclusion just listening to Larry Klayman sufficed.

    3. Christopher Fay

      Justin Beiber purchased rights to a updated rewrite. Pepsi is paying for product positioning so don’t expect any hard drinking bar scenes, expect more soda fountain. And it’s now about the war on terror.

      Yes, the world is ending.

      1. Roger Smith

        Ha! See, if was satirical (even on accident) I could get into and appreciate that (“so terrible it is funny”).

      2. aet

        I hope this remake will still include a hill of beans, so that there can be a sequel – again, I hope – featuring a big bag of wind.

    4. Michael

      Judicial Watch is conservative; they are highly selective in terms of which outrages they choose to focus on. And yeah, they can generally be discounted, not because their statements don’t reasonably often have merit, but because they concentrate on collecting scalps, so the signal:noise ratio isn’t high enough.

    5. optic

      I understand your points, but Judicial Watch make clear that they are a conservative organization everywhere that you look.

      This is the description you see right under the link to their website on a Google search:
      “Judicial Watch, a conservative foundation, fights for accountability and integrity in law, politics and government. Because no one is above the law!”

      This is the first sentence on their “about” page:
      “Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.”

      Now, there’s nothing wrong with a watchdog group being conservative, as long as they have integrity and good ethics. If the media is using “conservative” with the intention to discredit them, then that’s a problem both for the medium doing this, and for the reader who writes anything off for being conservative.

    6. uncle tungsten

      Interesting to see that Hellary is now claiming “private right” over all her email as part of that deposition. That is a mighty large two edge sword she wields. If the justice declines that BS approach then it might open more than pandora’s box.

      It is after all an FOI request encompassing her entire communications as SoS. There is evidence elsewhere from the FBI that much email is missing and wider search was needed to recover some. Presumably there could be more and that leaves an open question as to where to look.

      The State Department is being mighty coy here and seemingly with no given justification. After all, if any of Hellary’s legal team and IT teams are permitted to browse her emails then I guess any USA legal person including the judiciary is also permitted to browse. After all the FBI and Justice have just OK’d that interpretation provided they have no “criminal intent”!

  5. EndOfTheWorld

    On the e mail hairball, Judge Emmet has set the hearing for Monday regarding the case questioning Huma’s employment arrangements. If the case is allowed to go forward, it will be interesting to see how HRC answers some tough questions about this, questions which she never got from the press.

  6. Roger Smith

    Re: A real-life robocop patrolling Silicon Valley allegedly ran over a child in a mall Business Insider

    “Operating the K5 costs a fraction of a human security guard’s hourly salary, and it’s made less intimidating by its friendly appearance…”

    Great! Just what we need, more automation without a fallback for those technology displaces! Startling still, who else here saw that thing and thought it looked “friendly”? To me it looks like it is 10 seconds away from “disintegration protocol”.

    1. Roger Smith

      Sorry for the duplication. I thought this was edited earlier, then it looked like they both disappeared until now.

    2. reslez

      Sounds like a boondoggle to me. There’s no way those things are cheaper than disposable rent-a-cops unless it’s some sort of artifact of our messed up society. (What’s the depreciation on robots? Wear and tear? How fast do humans become obsolete? How frequently are humans stolen and scrapped for spare parts?)

      Then there’s externalities. Human security guards are biodegradable.

    3. lb

      I’ve seen this thing at the Stanford mall. I didn’t realize it was a physical embodiment of Corporate Big Brother at the time (instead I mocked it, assuming it was a _benign_ product of tech hubris, like the touchscreen kiosks at the very same mall which made it far slower to find the location of shops than would a simple, static printed/painted map). That the mobile obelisk ran over children is no more unexpected than self-driving cars occasionally killing or maiming people.

      So, if this is to _replace_ a security guard, how much of that actual job is redefined to fit the capabilities of the robut? How much is this just about attacking labor, how much is it about increrased surveillance (and collation of ‘consumer’ habits to be sent upstream) and how much is it about the minimal CYA when something goes awry? I stress minimal, in that a human can actually meaningfully interact and gather information beyond the pre-ordained ‘relevant’ (or, more likely, easily collected) signals.

      Last, I’d like to recommend that people dig up the 1980s film Chopping Mall if they’re hungry for mall-guard robots gone awry, attacking humans. It’s great schlock, if that’s your thing, and thematically prescient.

  7. abynormal

    Tommy Romone Dead at 65

    “You know, punk bands now sell with one record – their first or second record – sell 10 times the amount of records than the Ramones did throughout their career with 20-something records. That’s why I go over to Johnny Ramone’s house and do yard work three times a week, just to absolve some of the guilt.”
    Eddie Vedder / Pearl Jam

    1. Jim Haygood

      Eddie Vedder’s remark reminds me of Keith Richards paying for bluesman Hubert Sumlin’s funeral in 2011 — acknowledging his debt to those went before.

    2. hunkerdown

      At that rate, any surviving members of The Winstons — all one or two of them — ought to be living in style, with a retinue of hip-hop and electronica producers feeling compelled to cater to their every need and whim in exchange for those six seconds of heaven, those four bars that spawned entire genres, the most sampled drum solo in musical history… the Amen break. They invented the contemporary era of music and all they got was a T-shirt about $40k from a crowdfunding campaign.

      Our debt to those who went before.

  8. Roger Smith

    Re: A real-life robocop patrolling Silicon Valley allegedly ran over a child in a mall Business Insider

    “Operating the K5 costs a fraction of a human security guard’s hourly salary, and it’s made less intimidating by its friendly appearance…”

    Great! Just what we need, more automation without a fallback for those technology displaces! Startling still, who else here saw that thing and thought it looked “friendly”? To me it looks like it is 10 seconds away from “disintegration protocol”. For anyone familiar, it reminds me of Big Zam from Mobile Suit Gundam.

    ” It can detect sounds like cars honking, glass breaking, and people screaming, and scan license plates.”

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      One way to improve is by going with vegetarian, yoga-practicing (perhaps solar powered too) robot cops.

      Higher levels of consciousness, presumably.

    2. crittermom

      In the article, it stated a security guard told the parents it was the second time this month it has injured a child, too. Swell.

      What I most appreciated was that Yves ran a link to an informative article just above that one about Military Robotics Makers See a Future for Armed Police Robots.


  9. Toolate

    Curious what readers list of possible reasons for Sanders actions are given what we can and will never know?
    1) he is after all a politician
    2) he did not want to be wellstoned
    3)in the same vein the security apparatus let him know or he already knew that details of his life he did not want public etc
    4) he is in the know of forthcoming wikileaks
    5) he is honorable to a fault and what else could he do

    1. EndOfTheWorld

      Right, he is after all a politician—that’s all he is. He’s not a messiah destined to lead his people to the Promised Land. That’s why I only donated a very few bucks to his effort—but that’s that much more than I ever donated to any other politician.

      1. Arizona Slim

        Same here. My donations added up to less than $100. And that is big money for me.

    2. cocomaan

      6) He wants a position in a Clinton administration, because (1) and because politicians are power-seekers.

      Cynical, I know, but when you’re in your mid seventies, I imagine you start thinking about how you’ll be remembered.

      1. Joseph Hill

        Very few are remembered for very long. He’s a footnote under “abject capitulation.” I’ll go w/ your #6, #1, plus a dash perhaps of #3 perhaps w some headshot delivered by Clinton oppo (which is/will be undifferentiable from the security state).

      2. Teejay

        cocomaan 7/13 9:06am

        The technical term for #6 is a WAG, wild-ass guess. Sanders has zero interest in a position nor is he a power seeker. It’s not so much cynicism but letting an imagination ungrounded in evidence run away with you.

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        7) It’s up to us, and he doesn’t want to grab all the attention. For example, he doesn’t want more polls and quizzes about him…like this one. “Stop mentioning my name,” he says. “Get on with your lives.”

        I don’t think this one is probable, though.

        1. ChiGal

          It kinda is. Only more like trying to refocus on policy not person. Thinks this is his best way to accomplish the maximum possible on agenda.

          1. rich

            Et Tu, Bernie? Posted on Jul 12, 2016 By Robert Scheer

            What an embarrassment for Bernie Sanders and those, myself included, who thought he would not descend so cravenly into the swamp of political sellout.

            Really, Bernie, is that something you whispered in her ear during the hug? Or did she glean that wisdom from John Podesta, her campaign manager, who was once one of those lobbyists, or her son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky, who was set up in the hedge fund business by Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, who also paid Hillary so handsomely for her speeches?

            Did Bernie suddenly forget all of that Wall Street money that funded Hillary’s campaign?

            Critical thinking in this new political season will have to come from alternative candidates, such as the Green Party’s Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson.

            “I have known Hillary Clinton for 25 years,” the new Bernie gushes. “I remember her as a great first lady who broke precedent in terms of the role that a first lady was supposed to play, as she helped lead the fight for universal health care. I served with her in the United States Senate and know her as a fierce advocate for the rights of children.”

            A regular Eleanor Roosevelt, except that as first lady, Hillary Clinton turned health care over to the insurance companies and supported her husband’s so-called “welfare reform” that gutted the federal Aid to Families with Dependent Children program.

            Bernie, stop with the fawning. It’s not becoming.


            1. ChiGal

              But see Yves’s link to WaPo for a very different take as to whether there is any “fawning” going on. Poor CC thinks it’s weird. I think it’s wonderful.

              1. Pat

                I would think it was wonderful if I thought it had any basis in reality especially if she was elected. Yes, it may be a way to ‘hold her feet to the fire’ so to speak. But his saying she believes these things, even with her nodding behind him, really means nothing except he thinks she does. If that.

                Yes, it does mean that those ideas and policies do not leave the discussion, but for many of them that was not going to happen anyway – see Trump. Otherwise it gives her some populist cover which she desperately needs, but will quickly forget the day after the election.

                1. rich

                  The discussion is over and I’m not sure what you mean by wonderful. This reading between the lines and minds stuff is not going to win over anyone. People want a re-balancing, not a reshuffling. Bernie is not going to train a snake.

                  People Just Want to Kill the Status Quo – Thoughts on Trump’s Surge in Swing States
                  Michael Krieger | Posted Wednesday Jul 13, 2016

                  We are living in an era of justified general disgust. While this disgust manifests itself in all sorts of unproductive ways, the root cause is completely and entirely justified. People see so-called “elites” as the cause of their suffering and they are correct in that assessment. When I say elites, I refer to people who are in charge of crafting our public policy (politicians), those who bribe them (oligarchs) and the pundits who defend them (the mainstream media).

                  These three groups comprise much, but certainly not all, of what many of refer to as the “status quo.” These crony capitalists, corrupt legislators and their media gatekeepers have been absolutely instrumental in creating the wretched, lawless and disintegrating socio-economic fabric that anyone with an open mind can clearly see happening around us. As such, it comes as no surprise to me that Trump has now taken the lead in two swing states, and is tied in a third. Actually, that’s not entirely true, I am pretty surprised about Florida.

                  As reported by The Hill:

                  1. Mudduck

                    Yesterday I had two emails from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, giddy with joy over Sanders endorsement of Clinton. Today I had another, which gave me quiet satisfaction:

                    After Bernie’s call for unity yesterday, we just figured Democrats would…well…unify.

                    But instead, everything is falling apart.

                    FIRST: We heard barely a peep from grassroots Democrats.
                    THEN: A Quinnipiac poll showed Trump and Clinton tied in Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania.
                    NOW: We’re questioning whether the Democratic Party can unify at all.

                    Great to hear that they’re falling on their faces. The DCCC recruits ex-Republicans, Republicans-Lite, and conservative Democrats to run for Congress, and actively oppose liberal candidates. Long may they fail. Support worthy individual candidates.

    3. Otis B Driftwood

      6) it’s Chinatown, Jake.

      Yeah, I donated a few bucks myself, too. And some to the candidates running for congress.

      This thing is disappointing and I only hoped he stayed true to his word to contest the convention. So that was a sellout and I’m bitter about that. I just hope the youngsters who were motivated by Sanders aren’t as cynical as me and keep working for real change. There is always hope, after all.

      None of the Above in 2016.

    4. Patricia

      7) Perhaps he intends to continue his Senate career but was threatened with loss of position/support. I suspect he values that position, believing that he can do quite a bit if like-minded people are voted in and with citizen groups behind him.

      I also suspect Clintonites threatened because they didn’t want a gigantic show-down at the convention, which would make her look pathetic. So I hope that, whatever else people decide, we will still give that to her.

      1. Stomrcrow

        I think #7 makes a lot of sense. But one of the things I like about this site is that #2 can be mentioned without unleashimg a storm of verbal abuse. It is also important not to discount #3. I doubt that ##2 & 3 played much of a role in this case, but I believe bribery and intimidation are generally underappreciated factors of the corruption pervading our political life.

        As for the dismal significance of what Sanders did, I agree with Kshma Sawant today at CounterPunch:

        Bernie Sanders Abandons the Revolution

        … Sanders endorsement of Clinton is a fundamental failure of leadership. Sanders has the trust of millions of the most dedicated, committed workers and young people. They are looking to him. He has a responsibility to lead them in the way forward, not into a political dead end. …

        1. Patricia

          I too am glad for all the different voices here. They check my own biases/hopes/dreads. There is no solid path forward and it is a privilege to read how people tend/sort/decide.

          I’d more/less understood Sanders’ actions, could see the thin line he was walking, until yesterday’s event. But it isn’t the end of this tale and when people like Sawant, Scheer, Stein call it so, I gotta wonder (well, maybe not…)

          But Sanders has lost trust/reliability and that’s now part of the plot line. Will wait and see.

      2. Patricia

        I hope, when we’re finished being properly angry, that we’ll make a cool review. We do not have to become a member of the Dem tribe in order to use it. In the same way, Sanders is there for citizen use, and he has something we need—a spot inside the system, which is of value right now. I don’t know of anyone who thinks he’s a savior, but we can also remember that he is just an instrument (which all leaders should be).

        Also, Greens are a protest vote but that’s their only current function. They too are a citizens’ tool but at present, they’re not multi-use. It is unclear whether it is worth the effort required to make them more effective. In the end, it will be up to them, not a bunch of newcomers, to defeat their weaknesses. As I see it, the urgency of our current problems means we can’t afford to jump down rabbit holes—the Green party is possibly one of them—we need to evaluate.

        1. Mike Mc

          Join us!

          Beating this drum to remind Bernie’s people (my tribe) that 2016 is not The. Last. Election. Ever!

          BNC working on 2018 mid terms to get “Sanders agenda” candidates into the primary then general then Congress. Taking a page from GOP and Tea Party “from the bottom up” electioneering of last few years. No quick fixes, magic wands or Great White (-haired) Hopes – just lots of hard, local county state work. Step up!

      3. Adam Eran

        Nice to be generous to Hillary.

        One more thing: democracy itself require compromise and negotiation. Betrayal is part of the deal, and the sooner we stop expecting purity, the sooner we’ll get effective. Lyndon Johnson betrayed his Southern constituents to get Civil Rights legislation passed too.

        Bernie cut a deal. That’s his job… expecting something else is, well, naive.

        1. hunkerdown

          Isn’t it arrogant of you to assume that we care for a politics that normalizes the drama of ritual failure? One does not improve a parasite. One removes it. Cooperating with people whose claims to power on behalf of their class are illegitimate and unhinged doesn’t get those people OUT.

          Also, it’s very precious of you to imagine that civil rights was for Blacks. It was, as usual, for employers who want cheap, compliant labor.

    5. tiresoup

      8) Bernie was never a serious candidate, was surprised by the strength of the movement, and doesn’t really want to be president. At least not enough. Methinks you have to want it really really bad to do what it takes to get there. Exhibit A: He didn’t go after Clinton stronglyExhibit B: No foreign policy ideas, in spite of the new cold war and the American empire ongoing operations abroad – the new Prez will be the head of a world wide government entity, hence all the hue and cry over Trump’s “nativism.” Exhibit C: his long career in Congress where he was unable to move the lever. He knows the apparatus will not bend to his will and that many of the popular ideas he put forth – like free higher education – are nonstarters.

      1. Jess

        “8) Bernie was never a serious candidate, was surprised by the strength of the movement, and doesn’t really want to be president. At least not enough.” (Emphasis added.)

        No more calls, folks. We have a winner.

    6. neo-realist

      2) Wellstoned? Not as a candidate since he always flys coach. If he got into the Oval Office, its possible since he would be flying Air Force One. But wouldn’t Chavezed be more likely? Wellstoned is far too dramatic and obvious, but cancer would be expected of an older man if not heart disease.

      6) I don’t think he wants any part of serving in a Clinton administration considering their philosophies. I think he’ll stick with the senate. Endorsing a candidate doesn’t mean believing or liking a candidate all that much. I believe he wants to keep the runway open for similar populist candidates down the line.

      1. Patricia

        It doesn’t actually answer anything, though, you know? It is one possibility to put among those that Toolate offers above. Maybe more likely than some others, but still rumor.

    7. Skip Intro

      He wanted to keep his Senate committee assignments/seniority? He wanted to get a good spot speaking at the convention? Seeing the FBI and DOJ twisting themselves in knots to protect this criminal demonstrated that the fix was in at the highest levels. And we still have a couple weeks before the convention.

  10. That Which Sees

    Is Kerry Right? Are Freemen of Syria and Army of Islam Radical Terrorists? Juan Cole

    Probably by accident, but yes Kerry happens to be right this time.

    The flow of US and Turkish weapons from “moderate” Sunni muslim groups to ISIL and alNusra proves that there are no credible Sunni groups to aid. The only faction somewhat on the US side is the Kurds, and Tukey’s anti-Kurd military activity is a serious problem for that potential partnership.

    A Russian backed Assad regime (limiting Iran’s influence) is the best hope for stability in Syria. The most that could be said for such a result is that it qualifies as the “least bad” outcome. There does not seem to be a “good” option available.

    1. JTMcPhee

      “The US” had fokked over the Kurds time and again — (ask Montagnard how it works, Invited them to help overthrow Saddam, left them out to dry. And more recently and more complex-ly, there’s this description of some of the steps in the dance of the Great Game by the Behemoth “US.”:

      Any “somewhat on the US side” is coincidence.

      Because there is no organizing principle among all the powers that has anything to do with decency or comity or stability (even semi-stability) or sustainability — only about MORE for the Few. And the Many can’t get it together to oppose effectively, once their bellies don’t actively pain them. And hunger and fear make “us” weak.

  11. pretzelattack

    israel is looking worse all the time. wartime rape is ok because it boosts morale??

    1. Katniss Everdeen

      I am ashamed that I was unwilling to post the rabidly “anti-semitic” comment that this story demands and deserves.

      And so I will “default” to the venerated “judeo-christian principles” by which we purport to live:

      15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

      Thrown into the fire.

    2. That Which Sees

      A 100% completely debunked lie being circulated by Muslim/Palestinian media as propaganda for the gullible. Do not be fooled. You can find the truth about the situation here:

      the rabbi answered why it was considered permissible thousands of years ago under very specific circumstances … The rabbi made his unwavering opposition to rape during wartime explicit when asked to clarify his position.

      Don’t trust anything sourced from “Free Thought Project” or “George Washington” blog.

      1. pretzelattack

        i can’t tell where it came from, he says he never meant that. but, in other news, he says that lesbians and gays are sick. i guess he is like a fundamentalist christian military religious leader, in the us.

        1. That Which Sees

          Elder of Ziyon is a fairly massive, well respected blog that has an extensive track record of awards. It is as credible as MEMRI.

          So it is not anonymous, and *YES* you should trust it.. Far more than some of the other options.

      2. Carolinian

        How about as reported in Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot?

        More here from a website people may actually have heard of

        And btw here’s what he really said some time ago and then backpedaled recently. Who’s taking out of context?

        “[W]ar removes some of the prohibitions on sexual relations, and even though fraternizing with a gentile woman is a very serious matter, it was permitted during wartime (under the specific terms) out of understanding for the hardship endured by the warriors. And since the success of the whole at war is our goal, the Torah permitted the individual to satisfy the evil urge, under the conditions mentioned, for the purpose of the success of the whole

        1. That Which Sees

          As an academic, what did the old Testament and Torah (Deuteronomy 21:10–14) mean 2,000 years ago?

          “[W]ar removes some of the prohibitions on sexual relations, and even though fraternizing with a gentile woman is a very serious matter, it was permitted during wartime (under the specific terms) out of understanding for the hardship endured by the warriors. And since the success of the whole at war is our goal, the Torah permitted the individual to satisfy the evil urge, under the conditions mentioned, for the purpose of the success of the whole

          What is your current belief and interpretation on the subject applicable today (not 2,000 years ago)?

          unwavering opposition to rape during wartime

          He gave a terrible interview. However, it is fairly easy to distinguish what he was saying about why the Old Testament was written the way it was 2,000 years ago versus his actual, personal belief system. There is no excuse for anti-Semitic hate mongers intentionally misquoting a historical explanation as a personal opinion relevant to current life.

          “Mondoweiss” is another extremely poor source probably best ignored by rational thinkers.

          1. Carolinian

            You’re big on telling people what not to read. Mondoweiss seems perfectly rational to me.

            As for the rabbi, seems this is a controversy within Israel and not just “propaganda”–contrary to what you said.

            1. That Which Sees

              If you want to read Mondoweiss, feel free. If you are interested in that side, I think there are better options though, such as Juan Cole and Al-Monitor. I peruse them on a regular basis. They seem to have the best track record on facts contained within the articles even if the headlines are suspect.

              The only thing I ask is you not trap yourself in the echo chamber where that is the only side you hear. My suggestion is checking out honest translations of what Islamic leaders are saying in their own languages. The number one source for this type of content is MEMRI.


              It is amazing how much a single politicians ‘official’ English speeches and translated Farsi and Arabic speeches differ.

            1. skippy

              If only… try taking [copyright infringement] a grab bag of older foundation myths and shove them through an antiquarian word cloud meme generator… which then can be utilized by patriarchal heraldic power brokers [aka religious leaders] to code the populous…

              Disheveled marsupial… a fav of mine… Was Yahweh Worshiped as the Sun?
              Israel’s God was abstract, but he may also have had a consort


    3. vidimi

      if a tree falls in the forest but nobody is there does it make a sound?

      if israel descends further into depravity but nobody reports it, does it still look worse in the eyes of the world?

    4. Alex morfesis

      Hasidic haredim represent less than 5% of the population in israel…the bearded one in question who is to be chief rabbi to the idf is no more a representative of “the jewish people” than some storefront preacher in vegas represents greek orthodoxy….

      When working on john street making sales calls, had the audacity to be flirtatious with a cute and intelligent sheitel wearer…


      thought I was going to be taken up to the roof at lunchtime to be beheaded and thrown off the roof…


      same day, different suit

    5. Plenue

      Honestly this isn’t that much of a leap for them. The Israeli ‘Defense’ Forces already have a crappy record when it comes to women. They love to brag and propagandize that women are conscripted just like men, but the reality is that they’re not used for combat. They’re literally taught things like grooming rather than military skills, and more often than not expected to be a units ‘mattress’ to provide stress relief.

      1. That Which Sees

        I’m not sure if this is Trolling or serious, but I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

        The IDF does have an issue where gender bias badly impacts the ability to obtain critical positions that are most likely to lead to “career” military service.

        There is also a tiny minority of troops where willing female “mattresses” and willing gay men “easy bottoms” pay in trade for better assignments. Almost every military has this sort of problem. All forces including the IDF try to eliminate the practice as favoritism is noxious to military discipline.

        The bulk of all male and female IDF conscripts go through the same light infantry training and get the same sort of staggeringly boring and mundane assignments working checkpoints and walking fence lines.

  12. diptherio

    Trying to save the Democrat party from itself was always going to be a losing proposition. What we need is a new party. We used to talk about forming the Skunk Party around here, but I think we’d do better to set up a branch of the Pirate Party. It’s working for Iceland, especially since everyone’s become so fed up with their corrupt leaders…kinda like what’s happening here, now.

    Our party will be based on the idea and practice of democracy…with candidates selected at random from amongst the leadership (well, that’s my preference anyway). What say you NCers? We have the technical and political chops amongst us to make it happen. Lets start setting up some chapters. Why not? What else aaaarrrr we gonna do?

    Over the past year, the Pirates have steadily risen in the polls, regularly netting one-third of the support — a significant plurality in a country with six political parties represented in the parliament. If their support holds, the Pirates could push the center-right coalition out of office in the fall elections.

    “The Pirate Party is successful because we have actually proven ourselves to be human,” says Ásta Helgadóttir, 26, one of the Pirate Party’s representatives in parliament. “We are not trying to be politicians.”

    Iceland’s Pirates are not alone. Disaffected citizens on both sides of the Atlantic and both sides of the ideological divide — from the Tea Partiers to the Feel-the-Berners, from the Leavers of Britain to Spain’s Podemos and Nuit Debout in France — have promoted insurgent campaigns, attempting to reinvigorate democracy and bring representation into the 21st century.

    The manner in which these political movements choose to build trust, says Helgadóttir, is critical.

    “You can [build trust] with authority, with ultra-nationalism, the way that Poland and Turkey are going right now,” she says. “You tell people, ‘I have control, everything is going very well. So you should trust me.’” Or, she continues, you provide “a democratic alternative.”

    By utilizing the internet to crowdsource policy, the Pirates have chosen the latter path: members can submit proposals for a partywide vote. Such open-ended collaboration has even allowed for ideological diversity within the party, eschewing the traditional left-right divide.

    1. Rhondda

      I have been thinking similarly. I am particularly interested in a party that purposefully transgresses the divide-and-conquer boundaries of Rs and Ds. However, I submit that the party ought to be “uniquely American” in its name and structure, rather than importing a Euro trope. I have often thought that is a significant part of the Greens’ wrong-footedness. It should probably refer to the time of the founders, to get the appropriate patriotic sheen.

  13. jpalmer

    according to a Boston Globe headline this morning former general Stavridis that Clinton is “vetting” for VP was also supreme allied commander of NATO – and I believe NATO is massing troops near Russia…. (30,000 at last count?)…. Isn’t she wanting regime change in Russia? I know she wants regime change in Iran…

    1. Christopher Fay

      Massing Thirty K? Germany would lose 100s of thousands with the collapse of one defeat. Try 1.5 million for a foot soldier army for starters. And it’s pointless as Putin has said war with a nuclear power is nuclear war, also, Russia doesn’t start wars, we end them.

    2. Jim Haygood

      “Stavridis, 61, the former supreme allied commander of NATO, would bolster the Clinton ticket’s foreign policy credentials.”

      Conventional wisdom doesn’t get any more conventional than this MSM gem.

      Since Hillary’s husband pioneered illegal “out of area” operations with NATO’s gratuitous attack on Belgrade, NATO has destabilized Afghanistan during a 15-year quagmire.

      Only in the inverted worldview of the War Party does an abject, lethal failure of foreign policy confer “credentials.”

      The only credential Stavridis has got is a license to kill [brown foreigners].

      1. Katniss Everdeen

        Just what we need–more people with “foreign policy ‘credentials’ ” looking to run the show.

        At least Donald Trump appears to understand what country he’s running to become president of.

        1. Jim Haygood

          Stavridis is on the neocon CFR’s board, serving alongside such luminaries as Robert Rubin, Tim Geithner and Janet Napolitano.

          These are Hillary’s people — American exceptionalists, bleeding the life out of the US economy with their global militarism.

          Disgusting that so many have academic affiliations, poisoning higher education with their ideology of global violence.

          1. EndOfTheWorld

            The Greeks might seem an insignificant demographic, but they tend to support each other when one of them is running for office. They are known as big contributors (See Michael Dukakis campaign). This is Camp Clintoon still playing by the gamebook of forty years ago and fishing for donations. This guy will not be veep, or anything else, in the Clintoon regime.

          2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

            When you’re a professor from a prestigious university, you just sound more persuasive when interviewed on NPR.

            People worship intelligence (this is not a paradox).

            “I am smart” – that’s many people’s fantasy. It’s evidence in many movies, sci fi or no sci fi, targeted at kids.

      2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        It’s a dangerous world and so, it’s good to see this many samurai-class candidates (just one heart beat away) under consideration.

        1. local to oakland

          The samurai understood that it was important to know when a weaker opponent was willing to fight for a lose lose outcome. My biggest foreign policy fear is that the Clinton team does not understand this re capable, thoughtful opponents like Iran and Russia. There is a correlative risk that Trump’s temper would get him and us into trouble. At the end of the day in our system, generals take orders before they give them.

          I agree that if elected, having a military vp would be an asset to the presidency, if advice were taken.

  14. trexk23

    I don’t know if this was mentioned, but JAMA published a paper about the Affordable Care Act
    United States Health Care ReformProgress to Date and Next Steps

    There is not anything particularly new in the paper, but the venue is unusual for a standing President to publish an academic paper. I think it shows quite a bit of vanity on the part of the author, considering it is single author academic paper yet acknowledges the text was written by others who are not listed as authors but only as acknowledgements.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      What to do with life, in one’s fifties or late forties, after serving one or two terms as the president?

      Small sample size so far, but maybe the only satisfying post-peak-executive-power-political career is about making lots of money, be as good in that as in politicking.

      While we prefer not to see our Supreme Court justices still dispensing their ‘wisdom’ in their 90s and 100s (or even 110s or more), with or without adult dignity diaper, maybe we are better off with presidents at least 65 or older (so, they don’t have to puzzle over what to do – with still so much energy – after saving the world).

      “Bill, what do you wear?” – was the question in the early 90s.

      “Bernie, diaper or not?” – fortunately, we have been spared that question.

  15. Fool

    Warren was to mess with Sanders voters

    Yves, do you not think Warren will be the VP pick? If she is still being considered, what do you suppose it would (or could) take at this point to put her over the edge?

    1. John k

      Not a chance, and never was a chance. G sux would cut all support.
      Liz was delusional if she ever thought grovelling to shill would get vp… But I guess she was, cause she lost progressives for a 2020 run vs trump, themselves probably delusional for thinking her one of us. Me, for one.
      So all in all, a good thing so long as shill loses.

  16. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

    Half of US food produce is thrown away.

    A long time ago, I watched a documentary on Zen monks in Mt. Hiei, and watched them eat breakfast – simple and light stuff, and at the end, each was poured some tea into the bowl, to watch down the meal, and to make sure he didn’t miss even one single grain of rice, and to make washing the bowl later easier (maybe they didn’t even wash, I wasn’t sure).

    That’s Zen mindfulness, I guess.

    As a nation, we have enough food (perhaps not enough organic food), but there is a distribution problem…too much ends up discarded.

    The same with our GDP – lots of waste….even college courses (supposedly needed for a future career) required for a major.

    Is it possible, with better distribution, we can be much happier, even with a lower GDP – maybe even have time to chase butterflies (which is not counted in the GDP calculation – so apparently not contributing patriotically to the GDP)?

    1. polecat

      Whatever food we, in this household, dispose of ….. is put into the compost piles… added to the chicken poop…to eventually become next year’s fertilizer!

      Nothing, foodwise, goes into the trash!


      p.s. as a bonus the red wigglers that find their way to all that compostable ‘mana’ occasionally get fed back to the chicken… or the fish!

      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        “When you kill a worm, you lose a friend.”

        That was from organic-farmer-wannabee army psychiatrist McLean (played by Eddie Albert), in the 1956 film, Teahouse of the August Moon.

        Even though they had a white guy (Brando) playing Sakini, a native Okinawan character, in many ways, it was a surprisingly progressive film.

        Glen Ford, who played the American army officer sent to introduce democracy and capitalism to the people of the tiny village of Tobiki, even organized a shoju (a brandy from yam – organic in the movie) cooperative (!!!) for the local farmers.

        In any case, when you say someone is a worm, you are saying he/she is a friend.

    2. Jef

      Hunger has never been about “better distribution”. It is about economic repression/inequality.

      Other reasons for produce waste;

      Supermarkets, especially high end ones must present large abundance from which to choose. Even when it is an item that is known to have limited appeal. The must also have a wide variety of produce to show abundance even if some items don’t sell or sell very little. This plants an image in the consumers mind that that is the place to go for produce.

      The restaurant ind. also feels it must have the biggest, best produce, and I have seen many a chef refuse produce that is not perfect even though it will be cut up and presented or cooked.

      People don’t know what to do with produce or don’t want to take the time to do something with it. I can’t tell you how often we heard people say they would love to get some but it will just rot in the fridge.

      1. ambrit

        Then there are the insurance regulations. Big outfits shy away from anything that might expose them to litigation. Food poisoning is a big worry for grocery chains. Many places put the old produce in the dumpster, rather than donate it to soup kitchens, the homeless, etc. As I have found out on job sites in the past, legally, in many states, anything in a dumpster is the ‘property’ of the waste company supplying the dumpster. Dumpster diving to retrieve items mistakenly put in the job dumpster almost got me fired once.

      2. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

        With that perspective, it’s still ‘distribution.’

        Better distribution (of wealth) leads to less inequality…and less hunger and better distribution of food.

    3. ambrit

      Yes, yes, yes. Mindfulness is a good way to describe the necessary attributes of a “progressive” world.
      Thus, the conundrum; ‘mindfulness’ is a scarce trait, else, why the ‘extraordinariness’ of Zen monks?
      Waste is built in to our culture. An example: I collect those plastic ‘shopping bags’ from the market for recycling. (Why I seldom use the two cloth shopping bags we have at home is another riddle.) When I try to send the plastic back to the recycler I find out that no one hereabouts takes the bags, period. Even the rock bottom scrap yard, (now owned by a Russian ‘investment group,’) will not take the bags. The City recycling effort won’t touch them, even though we pay three dollars monthly to participate in that effort. The recycling dumpsters on the local university campus have signs prohibiting dumping of plastic bags there. So, the default position is the local dump.
      As far as waste in general goes; I get the occasional ‘evil eye’ from joggers passing by on the back alley when I’m “caught” feeding our family compost heap. An amble along the alleys in my neighbourhood spots very few compost heaps in back yards. (Almost none in an area with roughly 950 houses.)
      Chasing butterflies would be, really, was, much fun. Now butterflies, as mentioned a few days ago, are becoming scarce, along with many other species of insect.
      We are not at the beginning of the “Sixth Extinction Event.” We are in the middle of it.

  17. Bugs Bunny

    Re: “The Promise of Regrexit” — So Soros wants to play Sterling One More Time?

    I know he’s a globalist but that’s just an excuse since the bottom line is the bottom line. Hold Sterling. I’ve got a £10 note on my desk so count me in.

  18. Jason Boxman

    Ha. On job security: I own the least amount of stuff possible. I still have my 16 year old 27″ TV which works fine when I use it, but I prefer to read used books lately. I kept my last laptop for 8 years until it finally became useless with all the huge video ads and other junk on Web pages today. Otherwise, it would be fine. I plan on keeping my Nexus 4 Android until it breaks. I spent money traveling this spring rather than on stuff.

    1. Treadingwaterbutstillkicking

      What goes around comes around. New TVs have extensive problems (high levels of blue light, more electromagnetic pollution and radiation problems, they degrade fast (plasma), built cheaply/crapification, they spy on you, etc.).

      We have 2TVs. Both tubes. One is 16 years old. One is 37. They both work just fine. The younger one is even HD so we can watch movies on dvd. (So early oughts)

      Most of our friends and family have had many more TVs and computers and “smart”phones in this same time frame, tossed out at the next update or model upgrade.

      Best thing for us is that neither of them record our voices or film us or monitor what room we’re in at any given time. I wonder if some day these things will be valuable again for what they don’t do rather than what they do do. Will we even be able to buy a new TV ever again that isn’t designed like an app for the benefit of the corporation or the state?

  19. fresno dan

    New Black Panther Party says to carry arms in Cleveland if legal Reuters (furzy)

    The plan by the group this weekend comes as police in Cleveland brace for an influx of groups that plan demonstrations before and during the presidential nominating convention.

    During the attack last week in Dallas that killed five police officers, law enforcement officials said demonstrators carrying rifles led them to initially believe they were under attack by multiple shooters.

    SEVERAL OTHER GROUPS, including some supporters of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, have said they will carry weapons in Cleveland.

    “If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our second amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us,” Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

    “If that state allows us to bear arms, the Panthers and the others who can legally bear arms will bear arms.”

    NRA – the only way to stop a bad extremist group with guns is with a good extremist group with guns….

    Of course, the question I ask, if repubs think gun rights is sooooo paramount, than way aren’t guns allowed on the convention floor??? After all, many repubs believe teachers should be armed….don’t the repubs want their candidates to be safe????*

    *They do! That is why they apply common sense when they want to protect their own lives – when its somebody’s else’s life, not so much.

  20. Christopher Fay

    Ginsburg should resign so a democrat president can stack the court with another republican, hope and changily with one who takes a dim view of prosecuting high officials.

    1. Katniss Everdeen

      Not so fast.

      Polls today show Trump gaining on clinton and even besting her in some important swing states.

      It may be that another “supreme” court intervention ala Florida / 2000 will be required in order to install clinton in the white house, and that august body is already short one soul. clinton may need all friendly hands on deck.

  21. petal

    The giant Bernie sign on the edge of downtown Hanover was gone by this morning. Saw a couple of other small yard ones still in place, though. Be interesting to see if the yard signs stay up and the magnets/stickers stay on cars, or if they disappear. And if any HC stuff appears. I doubt it will, tbh.

      1. Eureka Springs

        I live in Arkansas and I can’t recall seeing one HC sticker as of late. Saw a couple yard signs in early primary season… The design struck me as the most sterile, lifeless, corporate logo looking political sign I have ever seen.

        1. Treadingwaterbutstillkicking

          I’ve seen exactly ONE Hillary bumper sticker (and it was TINY–one of those little Goldwater-like H-arrow thingies catapulting your mind’s eye rightward) and I travel a lot for work (though arguably not a lot in the South).

          Maybe a half dozen Trump signs, but really what I always saw was an obvious Bernie presence literally everywhere. I have never in my life seen or felt a political presence like this. Every other election year I’ve felt the players on both sides supported in some nearly balanced manner, even when Sarah Palin was in the mix. Not this year.

          There may have been a few million Clinton voters in the primaries, but my gut feeling is not as many as the vote tabulations “showed” and that those that are out there–they are truly older, not motivated, not willing to spend their own $$ on her (excepting elite and corporate donors), and maybe even stuck in retirement homes. The numbers still don’t add up for me, but who am I going to believe, me and my lyin’ eyes or all of the honest democratic party officials, election officials and the corporate media?

    1. Jen

      My sticker is staying on my car, and my sign firmly planted outside my door as a warning to any Clintonista door knockers seeking my vote.

      1. Katharine

        Interesting difference. I took mine down immediately, on the theory that what’s over is over. And I shall enjoy telling Clinton door knockers I’m voting for Stein.

        1. Jen

          Yeah, but unless you tell them you’re undecided, they only show up once. Pollsters, on the other hand, offer unlimited possibilities. I’m actually looking forward to my phone ringing off the hook again after the convention.

      2. Feelin the bern in WI

        My yarn sign was stolen the day after the Wisconsin primary. I’m in the red zone.

    2. ChiGal

      I specially got a bumper sticker with no words, just outline of his hair and glasses. Not taking it off cuz it is still relevant in terms of agenda and not dated by being identified with horse race.

      1. Arizona Slim

        I removed every trace of Bernie memorabilia from my person and my house. Stickers? Gone. Signs? Gone. Volunteer ID? Gone. Campaign button? Gone.

        Tee shirt? Never wearing it again. It’s going to the Goodwill tomorrow.

        BTW, I did keep the metal hoop from one of the signs. It will make a dandy climbing gym for the beans I planted yesterday evening.

        1. Treadingwaterbutstillkicking

          Why not keep the sign and add your own comment to the bottom???

          Something like: Bernie 2016

          and you add:

          “…what could have been…”
          “…abandoned but not forgotten.”
          “75% of what we need in a politician”
          “All the way to the convention my ass.”


          1. EndOfTheWorld

            I got a Bernie bumper sticker and a Hillary for Prison sticker right underneath it on my garage door. Permanent sign of “what might have been.”

        2. polecat

          waste not, what not…

          I’m keeping my Cthulhu sign out…. ;’)

          …his suckered, slimy appendege will be ready and in wait for whoever tries to filch it!

    3. Arizona Slim

      A nearby neighbor was kind enough to host the Sanders campaign HQ until an official one was opened here in Tucson. Neighbor cleared space for the campaign’s office equipment, hosting MANY phone banking parties, and created a hand-letter Bernie sign collage and attached it to her porch screen.

      This morning, I rode past her house and noticed that the sign collage was gone.

      I can’t help thinking that my neighbor is pretty pissed right now.

      1. Pat

        I’m not saying she should, but your neighbor is in a pretty good position to issue a more obvious middle finger to this AND work for the future. She was surrounded by like minded people for quite awhile and should know them. Perhaps she could get them together to figure out the best way to elect people locally and within the state that would drive Clinton crazy if she is elected. And maybe even some ways to make sure that doesn’t happen either (depending on what they want). Although considering the electoral college I’m not sure the latter will matter if I’m right on the state.

          1. OpenThePodBayDoorsHAL

            Instead of the resigned, middle-of-the-road, turn-the-other-cheek-and-keep-plodding alternative to dejection, might I suggest the polar opposite of dejection?
            Fiery, burning, quivering ANGER and DETERMINATION to stay MAD AS HELL at War, Lies, Theft, and Injustice?
            Simpering acquiescence to the jackboot in all its forms (cough Bernie-Fail cough) is NOT the way forward.

            1. Mudduck

              Sanders’ endorsement didn’t produce the results that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee expected. I had this email from them today:

              After Bernie’s call for unity yesterday, we just figured Democrats would…well…unify.

              But instead, everything is falling apart.

              FIRST: We heard barely a peep from grassroots Democrats.
              THEN: A Quinnipiac poll showed Trump and Clinton tied in Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania.
              NOW: We’re questioning whether the Democratic Party can unify at all.

              People have noted that Sanders mentioned supporting Clinton only once in his speech, which otherwise expounded his campaign issues. I hope his continued presence in the election is more in service of those issues than of Clinton.

              The DCCC is notorious for recruiting former Republicans and Republicrats to run for Congress. They oppose actual liberal candidates. Best to support individual candidates you admire.

        1. Arizona Slim

          Unfortunately, a lot of our local Dems (including Raul Grijalva) are already in the tank for Hillary.

          However, there are several marijuana legalization propositions on our statewide ballot. I say we vote YES on all of them. That would drive Hillary’s pharma-friends NUTS.

          1. polecat

            Hey ….look on the bright side….
            …….seeing all that MJ signage just might give ol’e chipmonk cheeks mccain a grand mal coronary!

            a twofer……

    1. Goyo Marquez

      All Lives Matter is pruposefully dishonest, sophistry meant to suggest that black people are asking for special treatment.

      I keep seeing Blue Lives Matter, imagine someone responds, All Lives Matter, to that.

      1. cwaltz

        Are you really suggesting that when cops die while serving their communities that it doesn’t matter?

        That’s pretty crappy.

        And yes I believe All Lives Matter

  22. JohnnyGL

    Early returns on the “email effect” are in…

    “With a drop in grades on honesty and moral standards, Democrat Hillary Clinton loses an 8-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Florida, and finds herself in too-close-to-call races in the three critical swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today.

    Clinton loses ground on almost every measure from a June 21 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. The Swing State Poll focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states. “

    1. Ulysses

      One of my friends, a delegate for Bernie, feels that the email tarbaby may still prove to be the undoing of HRC. She (perhaps delusionally) thinks that the DNC would rather win with Bernie than lose with HRC.

      Here are a few points that she is sharing with fellow Berners, in an attempt to keep them coming to the convention, fighting until the last moment to make Bernie (who hasn’t yet technically “conceded” anything) the D nominee:

      “-Her “wins” during the primary have been tainted with accusations of fraud, suppression, lawsuits, and investigations
      And then there’s Bernie. An honest candidate people trust and whose approval rating and trustworthy rating crushes Clinton’s. This is the argument Bernie will make at the convention. With all his 1,900 delegates inside arguing this case and 100,000 supporters outside arguing this case, we hope the DNC realizes he’s the only choice. He CAN win the convention, but he has to get there first. That’s why he endorsed her today.
      Q. So it’s still important that all of his delegates go to the convention and we all still March on it like we planned?
      A. It’s more important now than it ever was before.
      Q. What if the DNC still refuses to nominate him at the convention? Can he still run third party now that he endorsed her?
      A. Yes. In fact, running third party has never been an option until AFTER the convention. We need to stick with Bernie and see this through to the convention. He’s led us this far. Do not abandon him now.
      Q. What if he loses at the convention and doesn’t run third party, but instead endorses Hillary 100% and asks us to vote for her?
      A. Then our revolution continues without him and we continue to fight against Hillary Clinton and the DNC all the way up to November and beyond by voting for someone like Jill Stein or writing Bernie in. But the time for that is NOT here yet.”

      1. Pat

        Not a chance in hell. I think it is more likely that Clinton takes the nomination, Sanders continues to declare his fealty to her getting elected and the campaign starts. Only then if the sure things still looks like Titanic after the iceberg, she has a ‘stroke’ and has to drop out. Yeah, I think it will be health. And then and only then will the DNC nominate Uncle Joe or some other neoliberal stalwart. There is not a chance in hell that the DNC will ever nominate Sanders, not even now that he has tarnished his brand so much.

      2. NotTimothyGeithner

        The Democratic Party is a mix of nostalgia based voters and bourgeois nitwits who want to have their heads patted by billionaires. They do not want Sanders. They would rather lose than risk the Democratic Party going back to a large tent party. Sanders, not Trump, is the real enemy.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          The D party is like the Roman empire.

          And Bernie plays Constantine by dragging the Overton Window to a new capital, Istanbul.

          Maybe it will go on for a few more centuries or another millennium .

      3. Pat

        Oh, and I just realized I never said that despite my opinion of the rosiest of possible outcomes, the Sanders delegates should most certainly go to the convention AND be loud and obvious that they support him and his policies partially because of jerks like Clinton. Because seeing a whole lot of people in one room making it clear that probably half (if not more of the party) does not buy the bullshit could be a wake up call to other Democratic political types.

        1. Ulysses


          I do think my Bernie delegate friend is delusional on this point. I like Bernie very much myself, but I think that he is delusional as well if he thinks that a slightly more progressive sounding D platform (sure to be ignored by HRC if elected) represents some sort of “victory.”

          The real victory of his campaign is that this entire grueling year exposed very clearly that we no longer (as even Jimmy Carter now says!) have any sort of functional democracy left. It’s over. The transnational kleptocrats are firmly in control of the MSM narrative and our national politics.

          Yet, I’m not ready to hunker down with my canned beans and Tang in the fallout shelter. Why? Here’s my favorite unrepentant Black Panther, Russell Shoatz, writing from his jail cell in Pennsylvania:

          “I think that we do not learn enough from the successes of the past. We have a goldmine of tried and tested successful approaches if we study how our ancestors used the Underground Railroad.”

          If William Seward could risk his entire illustrious career– routinely hiding fugitives in his personal coach, and in a secret addition to the basement of his Auburn, NY home– can we, in good conscience, ask less of ourselves?

          Those of us living in these interesting times, are challenged to find creative and effective methods of resisting the transnational kleptocracy. I very much want my daughter’s children (if she chooses to have any) to live in a world that still knows freedom!

      4. different clue

        I will repeat my prediction that no Clinton will ever be indicted for anything. Anything. Ever. EVer.

    2. Gareth

      Throw in the Democrat party’s support for TPP-TTIP and we have a winner! The most qualified presidential candidate ever is going down in flames even before the convention crowns her.

  23. Pat

    Sad to say, I find this more depressing than yesterday’s dog and pony show. And yes, if I had been considering giving money to the Sanders campaign in order to foster more groups, not a bad goal imho, this interview would put the kibosh on that. Sanders may be going all out to get Clinton elected but I consider that goal to be totally at odds with rebuilding a traditional Democratic Party OR forming a new party at least as left as Eisenhower.–abc-news-topstories.html

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      There have been two, count them, two female prime ministers in the UK already.

      “We are so far behind.”

      That’s Hillary’s new slogan.

      Countries with female head of state or head of government recently (in geological time scale), from Wiki:

      Central African Republic

      Plus many others.

      1. Pat

        From what I know a large portion of the UK now regret their first and may learn to regret their second, not that the public had much say in May. We have enough regrets in America, electing Clinton because of quotas should not be the next one.

        1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

          The question is how do we counter that if she keeps repeating that often enough that it will be self-evident truth?

          1. Pat

            Why wasn’t it important to elect Carly Fiorina? Or Elizabeth Dole? Or….

            What the candidate stands for and believes is more important than gender.

            Do you agree with Clinton’s neo liberal and hawkish policies? Have they proven to be good for the country in the past?
            Has her decision making process in the past shown her to be careful and considerate of the issues outside of her own political future or have they been secondary to that to the detriment of the people and the country?
            Do you consider her honest and trustworthy?

            If you can answer in the positive for all those, you should vote for her. If not, you shouldn’t regardless of whether she has a vagina or not, because male, female, transgender or hermaphrodite isn’t important. It is how they would do the job.

            1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

              I don’t want to under-estimate the American public or voters, but will your thoughtful questions reach many of them?

            2. nippersmom


              Questions I have asked many Clinton supporters, and never gotten actual answers to.

  24. Gareth

    Sanders endorses Clinton and suddenly the man who was invisible during the primaries gets wall to wall coverage in the media. The Great Wurltzer finally gets the result it wanted.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      Not very often (probably more rare than Haley’s Comet) that you see Barbarossa goes to the Pope.

      The last time was more than 1,000 years ago.

    2. Skip Intro

      Good thing his ‘endorsement’ was basically a repetition of his stump speech with Hillary’s name attached in strategic places. Painting her into something of a corner.

  25. ambrit

    Of interest to urban dwellers; the water and sewer rates in our medium small city just jumped upward by 88%. All, we are told, to begin building up a cash reserve to deal with a not yet finalized series of bond issues, in the three hundred million dollar range, to pay for a new sewage treatment system. Details about the actual bond negotiations are scarce as hens teeth at present. So, the waste stream is no more a hidden issue.
    A more set schedule of attendance upon City Council meetings is on the to do list.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      Local government budgets (except those that trickle down from DC) are funded by taxation while the federal government ones not.

      Why do we use the same word for two different transactions?

      Is it because the fact of federal taxation to fight inflation and not funding spending is a modern distortion, perversion or more likely, at least more respectfully, innovation?

      Progress, we can call it.

      Would it be more progress, when the local governments can also do that too?

      1. ambrit

        Of interest to me is that this region is subtly corrupt in the Deep South Patrician Tradition. The last mayoral election was stolen, twice. The school systems accountants had to bow out of the picture due to ‘irregularities.’ The fight over the type of waste water treatment system to be used was ugly, and continues to be so. The estimates of the cost of the treatment system to be used keep varying by a significant amount. A ground deposition system finally being chosen, the locations of the several thousand acres to be used keep moving. Land records about who owns the lands to be bought keep ‘morphing.’ The engineering company used to give technical assistance and recommendations changed in mid stream. So, you can understand why I feel leery about all of this money accumulating over time; public fees softly singing the siren song of: “Here I am, come and get me.”
        Ultimately, this, whether direct taxation or indirect funding, has an impact on the standard of living of the citizens of the polity. One directly picks your pocket. The other limits the resources available to the individual citizen through allocation. At least at the local level, actual investigation is possible directly. Pressure on politicians and bureaucrats is possible at the local level as well. An angry mob massed in front of the local court house will, to steal from Dr. Johnston, concentrate the mind wonderfully.
        All politics is local.

  26. Titus Groaned

    Once Comey publicly told the nation last week that the fix is truly in and that no level of corruption is indictable when practiced by a Clinton, the last remaining door to the nomination was closed to Bernie. His pledge to “take the fight to the convention floor” was rendered pointless – as the threat of a looming indictment was the last remaining inducement which might have compelled the Super Ds to switch their allegiance from Hillary to Bernie.

    So Bernie’s endorsement of Her Royal Corruptness is wholly understandable from the standpoint of “practical politics.” He had always pledged to support the Democrat nominee and Comey just made it painfully clear who that will be. But on an emotional level, it’s utterly devastating. I still believe Bernie Sanders to be an honest and sincere public servant who genuinely fears the prospect of a Trump presidency but his endorsement of a politician – really, an entire family – who have been the prime architects of the pay-to-play, establishment politics that he has spent the last year railing against feels like a massive betrayal.

    I’m not so much disappointed in Bernie as I am depressed by what his endorsement signifies. If the most honest and incorruptible politician I’ve ever seen in my 40+ years following US politics cannot avoid being engulfed in the tidal wave of toxic sludge that is the Clinton Crime Machine, then what chance is there of finding even the tiniest ray of hope on the political horizon? Is there even any point in putting so much as a scintilla of energy into US electoral politics moving forward?

    Bernie deserves enormous credit for taking his fight much further than I – or probably he, himself – thought it would ever go. It was a great ride even if – as we all expected – it was ultimately doomed to being snuffed by the PTB. I know that on some level, I should feel good about it… so why does the phrase “we’re now well and truly fucked” keep running though my head?

    1. ChiGal

      Cuz we are?

      But it was a good fight and if he, exhausted and beat up as he is, is soldiering on in whatever capacity he can, I am certainly not gonna kick him while he’s down.

    2. different clue

      Well, there would have been one other inducement. Clinton is a Trade Traitor. Trump plays the part of a Trade Patriot and might or might not be one. But many people would vote for Trade Patriot over Trade Traitor. Would that have been a raisable question?

  27. EndOfTheWorld

    “what chance is there of finding even the tiniest ray of hope on the political horizon?” The ray of hope is: ELECT TRUMP. The only thing that keeps the rotten dem machine rolling is “to the victor goes the spoils.” Teach the whole dem establishment a lesson, and maybe the half-way decent Bernie types, if there are any besides him, will come to the forefront.

    1. Anne

      If the ray is shining out of the devil’s ass from hell, sure, but have you learned nothing from however many years you’ve been following this shitshow?

      If Trump – or really, any Republican – wins, it isn’t going to hurt the Democratic establishment one iota; those that don’t get to hang around in a Trump administration will head for the revolving door and head straight to K Street, or Wall Street or 30 Rock. They will write books and hit the speaking circuit, no problem.

      The establishment doesn’t “learn lessons;” it just finds new ways to work the system.

      Electing Trump is not the answer.

      1. Skip Intro

        They fundraise better scaring people with the latest excesses of the GOP, I suspect, than trumpeting their neoliberal coups masked as social progress. It is not about victory, but theater.

        As tempting as it is to think Trump can be manipulated by his ego to keep some of his big promises, like less regime change or no TPP, trusting him on those issues would be almost silly as believing Hillary.

  28. Howard Beale IV

    Hmm..armed police robot markets, eh? Sounds like a new market for Faraday shield bolo jackets….

        1. ambrit

          I’m assuming ‘self directed’ robots. The ‘robot’ makes the ‘kill’ or ignore decision. Like Agents of the State in all self respecting despotisms, the robots would always be primed for ‘terminal interactions.’
          I am basing this dystopian vision on the fact that ‘The Public’ has already been judged by ‘The Powers’ to be adversaries rather than clients.
          The “braincase” for the robot will be ‘hardened’ as a standard design feature.

    1. Skip Intro

      Advances in the field of computer vision will let these robots detect suspects among citizens by measuring the color of their skin with nearly human speed and accuracy. I, for one, welcome our new killer-robot overlords.

  29. Dan

    “South China Sea: A $5-trillion shipping route central to the global economy”

    Almost all of that $5 trillion in shipping goes to… China. It’s not like the Suez Canal, where a country can interdict shipping there and choke off international trade; if China halted free movement through the SCS, the only country that would be hurt would be China.

    1. ambrit

      Uh, what about Korea and Japans oil supply? Exports from these two to Europe? Fishing, a very important resource source for the Philippines, and Vietnam, and Brunei and Indonesia? Let’s be basic here; China is moving towards an Asian Hegemony. America will have to live with it.

  30. JohnnyGL

    Obamacare ‘death spiral’ watch.

    “A close look at what’s really keeping the exchanges underwater suggests that some of the problems are self-inflicted wounds by Obama and his administration; others are the handiwork of Republican saboteurs, who undercut the safeguards intended to help companies weather the uncertainty of the new law. And overall, the system has been weighed down by one big miscalculation: Health insurance amounts to a guess about how much customers’ health care is going to cost in the long run, and in many states Obamacare health insurers guessed wrong.”

    Also, the article mentions that open enrollment starts a week before election day. Could sticker shock be a factor in the voting booth?

  31. Benedict@Large

    Supreme Court justices receive lifetime appointments to raise them above politics, but that is a two-way street. Ginsberg may have been right in her opinion, but she was wrong to mention it publicly.

    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef

      Has she tainted the upcoming election already with that statement?

      Election fraud is what we are looking at right here?

      Should we take it to the Supreme Court for the justices to decide?

      1. EmilianoZ

        Now she has to recuse herself from any cases concerning Schtrumpf, including if the election goes the same way as 2000.

        1. Lambert Strether

          Excellent point. Fortunately, there’s no reason to think a Presidential election would end up in the Supreme Court, especially some sort of technicality like counting the ballots.

  32. inode_buddha

    Probably OT but ever since the FBI let Clinton off the hook, and Sanders endorsement, I decided to just sit back and observe for a bit. (Although I do have my own opinions and contingency plans…)

  33. Elliot

    6) I don’t think he wants any part of serving in a Clinton administration considering their philosophies. I think he’ll stick with the senate. Endorsing a candidate doesn’t mean believing or liking a candidate all that much. I believe he wants to keep the runway open for similar populist candidates down the line.

    I agree. I also find the vitriol a bit misplaced; he never positioned himself as savior, if people felt that way it was on us, not on him. Yes we have a screwed up system, but it was never going to be fixed by one person, and excoriating him for trying to continue the fight in the way he has been doing so for decades is .. childish. People who are so angry, are YOU running for office? It is up to us all to do what we can.

    I also think he truly believes change is possible, and hopes to continue to effect change even outside the Oval office. If we give up now, that’s on us too; if someone had told you two years ago that he would make it this far, would you have believed it? Neither would I, and yet he did.. we did. So, next time, moreso.

    1. Lambert Strether

      I think a lot of this will come clear as whatever organizations Sanders has in mind roll out. I do worry that the Sanders team is so small there will be administrative and marketing problems, but we have what we have.

      1. inode_buddha

        Now this is something I’m curious about/interested in. Yes I’m disappointed (And I’ll never be a Dem after what I just witnessed) but I think carrying his ideas vigorously forward in some kind of structure is the way to go.

  34. Elliot

    So, I did what I would expect any reader here to do, and searched online myself about this, and he sounds very fringe, has repudiated what he said, and has been taken to task by government officials over it.

    It’s inappropriate to try to say the IDF has that as policy, any more than to say that either all blacks in Texas want to kill policemen (or that BLM approves it) or for that matter that all US policemen are OK with killing black people for no reason.

    Collective guilt is racist nonsense, and embarrassing to read here.

    And I’ve never thought MondoWeiss was that unbiased.

    And no, I’m not Jewish, if that’s the reason you think I would be offended.

  35. Heliopause

    “Before European Christians Forced Gender Roles, Native Americans Acknowledged 5 Genders Bipartisan Report (Chuck L). Gender role stereotyping sucks.”

    This article is, I’m sorry, BS. There was tremendous cultural diversity amongst Native Americans prior to European contact and the generalizations about them here are gross. Some groups indeed had more flexible gender categories than we generally are used to and some did not. It’s not a compliment to culturally complex populations to turn them into simplified archetypes for our own purposes.

    1. Mudduck

      Yes, there was great cultural diversity among the original North Americans, and the article perhaps overgeneralizes. (Someone above said that the Apaches didn’t fit the narrative.) Nevertheless, it’s useful to know that significant functioning societies recognized gender variation. As for European reaction, I’ve read that when Spanish explorers encountered gender variant males, they killed them. And many tribes had democratic organizations including women: Europeans insisted on dealing with “Chiefs.”

  36. SpringTexan

    Not appalled at all by Ginsberg. Trump doesn’t deserve the respect of a normal or qualified candidate and the press shouldn’t be covering him like one and I’m fine with what she said.

    1. Kfish

      So because you don’t like Trump, it’s okay for Ginsberg to flush her judicial impartiality down the toilet? I hate the man myself, but I’m deeply pissed off that Ginsberg chose to do this because the only casualty is her own reputation. Trump has demonstrated that he doesn’t give a shit who he offends – it’s part of his shtick.

      If it wouldn’t be okay for Scalia to come out against Clinton while he was a sitting judge, it shouldn’t be okay for Ginsberg to do it to Trump.

  37. different clue

    The “antidote” could just as well be a “plantidote”.

    Acres of kudzu! ( With a bear in the middle).

    1. different clue

      Well . . . I “yahooed” up a bunch of soybean plant images and a bunch of kudzu plant images. In all the images looked at, kudzu and soybeans both have 3 leaflets per leaf. But kudzu leaves have one or often-two leaflets deeply lobed, and soybean leaflets have zero lobes. And all the leaflets around the bear have zero lobes so far as I can tell. So they are soybeans and I stand corrected.

      Sorry for even questioning the I D.

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