By Lambert Strether of Corrente.
Patient readers, thank you for all the excellent suggestions for books to read yesterday (and consider collectively taking yourselves up on your suggestions, too). For the duration of the Naked Capitalism holiday season, I’m going to run Water Cooler as an open thread.
Here, however, is a conversation starter: We received a wonderful Christmas gift from the Department of Schadenfreude in the form of this story from the Washington Post: “Rachel Maddow rooted for the Steele dossier to be true. Then it fell apart“:
She was there for the bunkings, absent for the debunkings — a pattern of misleading and dishonest asymmetry.
I know this WaPo story was in Links, but since comments are off there during our comments holiday, perhaps it did not meet with the seasonally appropriate merriment and revelry it might otherwise have induced.
So talk amongst yourselves! Do remember, however, that this is a holiday for the moderators as well, so don’t make them work hard. Be excellent to each other.
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I ticked the damned enable comments box, I swear. First thing I did. Anyhow, have at it!
That being the case, I wish to add some music that I heard from the gaming world to go with that Rachel Maddow story-
It took a Rhodes Scholar to buy into a bogus story that most commenters here could have shot down by pointing out the facts. Maddow is entitled to her opinions but she is certainly not entitled to her own facts.
I didn’t know they made violins that tiny. And apparently there’s a whole genre of gaming sound effects!
A bit late Kotter.
But welcome back.
Rachael Maddow is the principal reason I no longer watch MSNBC.
Here’s what most rabid Democrats don’t understand. I voted for Donald Trump whilst holding my nose. And will again if they don’t offer me a viable candidate. HRC wasn’t it. Uncle Joe isn’t either. Neither are any other than Bernie. Thing is, Bernie scares the bejesus out of the establishment (and I don’t fool myself into believing Democrats and Republicans are anything but two sides of the same coin).
And while I wandered away briefly, I do have a point, which is I’d be in 100% favor of impeaching Trump IF he did something worthy of being impeached. He hasn’t. In fact, the guy – with the exception of doing zero about health care – has pretty much done what I hoped he would. And if the Dems block Bernie again, since nobody on their ‘team’ will do anything about health care either, I’ll vote for DJT once again.
However, the calculus changes if Sanders is the nominee.
And given that the Clintobama Establishment figures all without one single exception are antiRussianitic racist antiRussianites who support reckless brinksmanship with a thermonuclear armed Russia, voting Trump would also be a means of raising the chances of national bio-physical survival by lowering the chances of Thermonuclear War.
Thx, Capitalism, for forcing me to either pay money to espn or walk 4 blocks to Traceys bar to watch the LSU game. Game should be free to watch!
WaPo (deservedly) throwing Maddow under the bus strikes me as very much a case of “pot, meet kettle”, given how hard WaPo was trying to justify the FBI’s using the dossier to get a FISA surveillance warrant as not unreasonable. From that 2018 WaPo explainer:
“Sometime in this summer period, the FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor Page’s communications, after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, Russia. According to CNN, Steele’s reports were part of the justification used to win approval of the court order, though the FBI apparently corroborated the information as part of its investigation.”
Now in the Maddow-under-the-bus piece WaPo admits that the FBI corroborated nothing of interest in the dossier:
“The Horowitz team didn’t attempt an independent fact-check of the dossier, opting instead to report what the FBI had concluded about the document. Unflattering revelations pop up at every turn in the 400-page-plus report. It reveals that the CIA considered it a hodgepodge of “internet rumor”; that the FBI considered one of its central allegations — that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen had traveled to Prague for a collusive meeting with Russians — “not true”; that Steele’s sources weren’t quite a crack international spy team. After the 2016 election, for instance, Steele directed his primary source to seek corroboration of the claims. “According to [an FBI official], during an interview in May 2017, the Primary Sub-source said the corroboration was ‘zero,’” reads the report.”
I say AS LONG AS HER CHECKS CLEAR, Rachel goin’ be Rachel.