Links 8/29/2020

A Woman Called the Cops Because She Thought Store-Bought Meat Was a Penis Vice. If production lines weren’t so tightly controlled, it’s not hard to imagine the creation of pork dildos as a form of employee revenge. Or a speciality cut?

Khao Kheow Open Zoo welcomes newest addition-a baby Tapir Pattya News (furzy). For you tapir fans.

Microbes Living Deep Below Earth’s Surface Could Be Remnants of Ancient Life Forms ScienceAlert (Kevin W)

Climate change is causing more rapid intensification of Atlantic hurricanes Yale Climate Connections

A low dose of lysergic acid diethylamide decreases pain perception in healthy volunteers Journal of Psychopharmacology (Dr. Kevin)



Nevada man, 25, becomes the first known case in the US of coronavirus reinfection Daily Mail (Kevin W)

FDA approves $5 rapid coronavirus test that doesn’t require special computer CBS (Chuck L)

The University of Arizona says it caught a dorm’s covid-19 outbreak before it started. Its secret weapon: poop. Houston Chronicle (resilc). Lambert had a story on this too but what a great headline.

First U.S. novel coronavirus reinfection case identified in Nevada study Reuters

The WHO Was Built to Guard Global Health. It Was Too Weak for Coronavirus. Wall Street Journal


Moderna failed to disclose federal funding for vaccine patent applications, advocates say Stat (Dr. Kevin)

Schools are going remote — and this Berkshires resort is offering a #SchoolFromAnywhere deal Boston Globe (resilc)

Why Trash Is Piling Up at N.Y.C. Parks New York Times


UI claims remain historically high and the president’s executive memorandum is doing more harm than good Economic Policy Institute


Why Did So Many Asian Immigrants Vote to Leave the EU? Byline Times (guurst)

Old Blighty

Tories against Thatcher Stumbling and Mumbling (UserFriendly). Important.

What Have We Become? Craig Murray


Tanks for the taking! Israeli hikers discover ABANDONED BATTLE TANKS, locked and loaded in Golan Heights RT (Kevin W)

Trump Transition

Angela Merkel looks confused after being asked if Trump ‘charmed’ her Business Insider

23 AGs Sue Trump Council Over ‘Reckless and Unprecedented’ Gutting of Bedrock US Environmental Law Common Dreams. Wowsers, very little reporting on this.


The White House Is Openly Threatening a Journalist With a ‘Dossier’ Vice (furzy)

Trump Administration Begins Payroll Tax Deferral Plan Wall Street Journal

“QAnon Is Batshit Crazy”: Lindsey Graham Talks TikTok, Online Conspiracies, and Why He’s Sticking With Trump Vanity Fair (resilc)


Is The Electoral Map Changing? FiveThirtyEight (resilc)

Ahem, nice gesture but silly. You need voting machines or ballots (or both) and poll workers…as in the cooperation of the state, which organizes and certifies elections..and if you get rid of voting at established precinct locations, you create more confusion and in most cases, longer drives for voters. I would NEVER vote at an arena. Would take vastly longer due to much greater walking distance from a parking space.

Trump grants pardon to Alice Johnson day after convention speech The Hill

How Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin New York Times (UserFriendly)

New Study Suggests Polls Are Missing Shy Trump Voters Bloomberg (resilc)

Dem Convention Made No Mention Of Russiagate Or Impeachment, Because Those Were Fake Things Caitlin Johnstone (UserFriendly). No, because they were failures. All sorts of fake things regularly succeed, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

MOVEMENT FOR A PEOPLE’S PARTY CONVENTION : This Sunday 8/30/2020 4-6PM Eastern
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Rep. Richie Neal’s Campaign Sends Threatening Letter Demanding Removal of Ad About His Corporate PAC Cash Too Much Information

Black Injustice Tipping Point

Barack Obama reportedly spoke with LeBron James and other NBA leaders to advise them on how to move forward after Jacob Blake protests Business Insider (Kevin W)

NBA flexes muscle amid partisan attacks The Hill

National Action Network’s “Get Your Knee Off Our Necks” Rally and March C-SPAN (Kevin C)

At D.C. march, families decry ‘two systems of justice’ Associated Press (resilc)

Hurricane Laura topples Louisiana Confederate monument weeks after officials voted to keep it Fox5NY. Resilc: “God is a Yankee.”

Police State Watch

Paramedic Speaks Out on Police Use of Ketamine Injections Intercept (UserFriendly)

The FBI warned for years that police are cozy with the far right. Is no one listening? Guardian

Virginia Senate approves proposal to allow reduced penalty for assaulting police 8News (BC)

California Burning

They Know How to Prevent Megafires. Why Won’t Anybody Listen? ProPublica (UserFriendly)

The Future of American Industry Depends on Open Source Tech Wired (Chuck L)

US Tech Stocks Are Now Worth More Than the Entire European Stock Market CNBC

No cooperation allowed? Twitter suspends cancel culture prof’s ‘Articles of Unity’ call for bipartisanship & BLOCKS website RT (Kevin W)

Elon Musk trots out pigs in demo of Neuralink brain implants The Verge (Kevin W)

A Closer Look At Elon Musk’s Neuralink Surgical Robot TechCrunch

Boeing pulls eight 787 jets from service over structural issue Reuters (resilc)

Long-awaited Celera 500L ‘bullet’ plane is finally revealed CNN. Resilc: “Will this fly as well as the F-35, 737 Max?” Moi: This is what the Hindenburg would look like if you put it on a diet.”

Apple Terminates Epic’s App Store Account Following Legal Dispute Between the Two Companies 9to5Mac

Class Warfare

Lower-income students are paying the price for the global laptop shortage Vox (Recode)

DC Attorney General Sues Instacart, Claiming it Deceived Customers Into Thinking Service Fees Would Go To Workers CNBC

Powell’s white-collar world led to Fed pivot for blue-collar jobs Reuters (resilc). Help me. A difference in degree is not a difference in kind.

Black–white and Hispanic–white gaps persist as states record historic unemployment rates in the second quarter Economic Policy Institute

Antidote du jour. Peirol:

This is Mr. Simba, an older domesticated rabbit that showed up in our backyard in California. He showed up a few months after our previous rescue rabbit passed under difficult circumstances.

In this picture, he is enjoying a cubby in my desk while I read Naked Capitalism. :)

And a bonus video (furzy). Turn the sound down, the cheery ditty is a bit de trop.

00 Massage Parlors Are Open

See yesterday’s Links and Antidote du Jour here.

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  1. Igmacio

    Nevada man, 25, becomes the first known case in the US of coronavirus reinfection Daily Mail (Kevin W)

    I am increasingly suspecting that these are cases of enhanced susceptibility after previous infection possibly due to ADE. Fortunately these seem to be rare so even if vaccination results in some cases of increased susceptibility it will make sense as long as it is generally protective. In any case this spells precaution: no rush to vaccine approval until this risk is comprehensively addressed. This means taking the necessary time to address these risks.

  2. The Rev Kev

    “A Woman Called the Cops Because She Thought Store-Bought Meat Was a Penis”

    Actually, I could see this happening again. But next time the published story will be bigger, longer, and uncut.

    1. dougie

      Yves, you had me at “pork dildos”. I will see how many times I can use it in conversation today. Given that I raise my own pork, and have a business meeting this morning where I am giving 20% of my auto repair business to my lesbian shop manager, and my gay stepson who works there, I will have several opportunities…….I love this place!

      Wish me luck, as we begin to navigate the challenges of returning the fruits of the labor to the hands of those who produce it.

        1. lordkoos

          In Jamaica they have what they call “cow cod soup” which is a thick and spicy broth containing soup bones, dumplings and chopped up cow penis. It’s not bad.

      1. jefemt

        Way to go, Dougie! Check out Jack Stack, Springfield Remanufacturing, and The Great Game of Business.

        Employee ownership, total access and training in and to all financials.

  3. fresno dan

    The Rev Kev
    August 29, 2020 at 7:58 am

    As Freud said, sometimes a pig tail is just a pig tail….

    But next time the published story will be bigger, longer, and uncut.
    So….Save a Lot circumcised some of their pigs…

    1. griffen

      That job description would have to very specific. You’ll be slicing and dicing!

      Accuracy not always required.

  4. Stephen V.

    Since we’re all in pain, why not acid in the water supply? Wait, our own see-eye-A has already done the research:
    The U.S. was in the midst of a Cold War and had just emerged from World War II, which had raised a “general interest in propaganda” and “psychological manipulation,” says H. P. Albarelli Jr., author of A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA’s Secret Cold War Experiments. The project directors were intrigued by the notion of making world leaders look foolish in public by drugging them, dosing whole populations through the water supply and manipulating suspects during interrogation. Rather than a war on drugs, it was a war with drugs.

    1. The Rev Kev

      This idea was actually included in a 1968 film called “Wild in the Streets” where teenagers take over America and everybody over 35 is rounded up, sent to “re-education camps” and permanently dosed on LSD. A crucial vote to enable this to happen by lowering the voting age to 14 was won when Washington’s water supply was spiked with LSD-

      1. Wukchumni

        What if instead over a period of 30 years, you got all Americans hooked on prescription drugs, resulting in them being wild in the streets?

        1. ambrit

          I think that the idea was to get ‘them’ to be “wild in the cave.” (For some version of Plato’s Cave.)

          1. Wukchumni

            It’s more akin to the Ear of Dionysius.

            It refers to the tyrant Dionysius I of Syracuse. According to legend (possibly one created by Caravaggio), Dionysius used the cave as a prison for political dissidents, and by means of the perfect acoustics eavesdropped on the plans and secrets of his captives.


      2. ambrit

        You would need an industrial scale production run of LSD-25 to accomplish this with a single municipal water supply. The ‘bottleneck’ comes in concentration of ‘product’ in the applicable delivery medium. The daily output of a medium sized municipal water works is in the millions of gallons a day. The needed amount of psychoactive substance would be scaled accordingly.

      3. tongorad

        Featuring a very young Richard Pryor in what I’m guessing is his first film. Interesting flick.

      1. diptherio

        You know people who have nothing to do with the gov’t live in those areas too, right? Just sayin’.

        1. km

          I’d rather dose people who can move, than kill foreigners who can’t get away from our bombs.

          Hell, it’s more humane than bombing German cities during WWII.

    2. Basil Pesto

      The project directors were intrigued by the notion of making world leaders look foolish in public by drugging them

      how quaint

      1. The Rev Kev

        There was an article featured here by an ex-CIA spook (if there is such a thing) a coupla months ago who talked about this being done. Drugs could be introduced by paper handled by the target impregnated with the drugs. But then he said that this not always work. There was one leader who was incoherent at the best of times who actually became more lucid when they drugged him.

    3. zagonostra

      Reference to MK Ultra might get me in trouble with moderator,, but look it up… Experimentation on unsuspecting and willing participants by the U. S. govt is well documented.

        1. zagonostra

          Didn’t know that,thanks.

          Joe Roman had a guest on a while back who drew interesting connections to the Mansion murders.

          1. Tvc15

            Author of Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties. Interesting book, and unsurprisingly this little piece of history isn’t exactly as it may have been reported and accepted.

          2. IdahoSpud

            Yes, I saw that. Apparently the CA criminal justice system decided to treat Manson much more leniently than they treated the other career criminals that they dealt with.

              1. Janie

                It went away in the Midwest in the ’50s after the Charles Starkweather murder spree. I still remember the fear.

              2. rowlf

                Dunno. My uncle hitchhiked from the NYC metropolitan area to southern California in 1971 to drive my mom’s 1968 Pontiac GTO (with her gassy German Shepard dog) to northern New Jersey where we could meet up on our way to the next Air Force base we had to go to.

                I think my uncle had Stuckey’s chili dogs on his side of the battle. The ultimate conflict was supposedly during a strong rainstorm when he couldn’t roll down a windows.

              3. Aumua

                I hitchhiked both locally and nationally in the late 90’s. From Dallas to Memphis to the East Coast. From upstate NY to Madison to Arkansas and back to AZ. From St. Louis to Sarasota, to Missouri, Colorado and then AZ again. It was quite the experience. I’m sure being a white male made things easier than if I was other than.

                1. Wukchumni

                  You’ll occasionally see hitchhikers in these United States, but it’s an exception. One of the few places i’ve seen it is in Oregon, and not very widespread, but a ton more than California.

                  When I go to NZ, using only mere thumb pressure, i’m able to stop 3,000 pound vehicles quite easily and although I don’t need to hitchhike, I always do so, only because I can.

    4. John Wright

      Some interesting events have occurred during acid trips, including a MLB baseball no-hitter by Dock Ellis.


      “That Ellis even managed to get from one point to another while high on acid is miracle enough, but it’s beyond belief that he then managed to throw a nine-inning no-hitter despite, as he says, being unable to feel the ball or see his catcher (or much of anything else). “I started having a crazy idea in the fourth inning that Richard Nixon was the home plate umpire, and once I thought I was pitching a baseball to Jimi Hendrix, who to me was holding a guitar and swinging it over the plate,” he recounted of his start in 1984, when he first told the world of his trip. “I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn’t hit hard and never reached me.””

  5. timbers

    Dem Convention Made No Mention Of Russiagate Or Impeachment, Because Those Were Fake Things Caitlin Johnstone

    Here is a solution that allows Dems to out Trump Trump on Law and Order, re-take the WH, feed the MIC, and give them a mandate to serve their elite donors with greater perfection and forcibly put down any revolt against the elite ruling class:

    And it will allow Dems to completely avoid taking about anything addressing working folk concerns at variance with corporate agendas, which should also make their donors very happy even it if doesn’t work.

    Launch a new PR/Fake News campaign that Russia is funding civil unrest in the U.S. as revenge against Dems and to support Trump. This campaign could include non Hillary luminaries such as Obama, Colin Powell, Robert Mueller, others of your choice. Rachael Maddow can rally the loyalists. Get the John Brennan’s & Co on board to say US intelligence agencies confirms this as fact. Anonymous leaks confirming this to be true and that sort of thing.

    Run on Law and Order, Dems, and then Biden can do all me paper pushing the wants in the White House.

    1. anon in so cal

      Kamala Harris and Susan Rice have said that was the source of the protests….

      IMHO, Dems didn’t mention Impeachment / Ukrainegate because that immediately introduces Biden’s key role in the 2014 putsch in Ukraine and leads to Hunter Biden’s $83,000 per month from Burisma.

      It also reminds people that Dems held the nation hostage with Ukrainegate theater during the crucial months of Dec-Feb when steps could have been taken about the pandemic. (of course Dems and the MSM also downplayed the pandemic)

      1. Sheldon

        Cause of Trump’s re-election.

        1. Kamala Harris on the ballot.

        2. “Mostly peaceful demonstrations and riots.”

        3. Basement Biden’s blithering and evident dementia.

        1. The Rev Kev

          You could add one more-

          4. Democrats offered not a single thing to voters as they thought that it was in the bag.

      2. John Anthony La Pietra

        Whoa . . . I just noticed what happens when you take the “Dem” out of “pandemic”!

  6. Zagonostra

    – Charmed I’m sure.

    What a stupid question. No wonder she was puzzled, I would be to if I were her…

  7. Pat

    Lucky Mr Simba for finding such a wonderful sanctuary from the world he was abandoned in. Kudos to Peirol and family for providing that sanctuary.

    And lucky Peirol and family to have Mr Simba in their lives.

    This was a needed reminder that sometimes wonderful things do happen. What a great antidote.

    Thank you.

    1. urblintz

      I have a new wild rabbit living in my backyard… has nested nicely under my totally overgrown philodendron and comes out each morning and evening to feed on grass and flower stems. His presence has added no small amount of joy to these dark days and I hope he stays as long as he needs.

    2. periol

      We do feel lucky to have Mr. Simba, and it’s easy to tell he likes it here. He always gets excited for Naked Capitalism time because he gets a little treat and some scritches if he wants. :)

      Sometimes with all our animals it’s easy to forget things are crazy out there. They definitely keep us grounded.

  8. Brindle

    re: NBA

    Using NBA arenas for voting sites is potentially a plus. Having a large space like an arena makes social distancing much easier. Having “the cooperation of the state” is key obviously but I won’t be cynical about pro basketball players, mostly black and in their twenties, trying to do something positive.

    1. NotTimothyGeithner

      Potentially, but personal anecdotal experice is people expect to vote in the same place, even people who have moved especially if the cross the boundary but are nearby the old precinct. These people get discouraged or can’t vote. Then there is the process of getting to and from the arenas versus a nearby school, lodge, etc.

    2. Oji

      Not sure how using NBA arenas would be “confusing”. You don’t need to remember an address because most people know where there are, even if you don’t go. They are easy to see and find even from blocks away, so you just need to know the general location to get there, and signs will often direct you the rest of the way– unlike polling stations. As for parking, you won’t likely be fighting 10,000 cars in a 1-hour window. They would be open all day, so most people would be able to park within a reasonable distance– in fact, parking is likely to be MUCH better than current polling places. Not to mention public transport generally stops right at the arena, unlike many regular polling places.

      For those who can’t make the walk, there’s absentee voting, and, possibly, vote by mail– we’ll see. Arenas are also more likely to handicap-friendly, and probably have quite a few wheelchairs on hand too.

      And, as stated earlier, it would definitely be safer than a regular polling place.

      It’s a question of whether or not it’s perfect, rather, whether or not it offers advantages over the current arrangement. It does. Overall, it seems to offer many of the same advantages schools offer over other types of places.

      My polling place, for instance, is a small church whose parking lot holds only about 30 cars, which means I’ve had to wait in my car for a spot at times. The entrance is a single basement door that funnels into a narrow hallway, where we wait in line, leading to a small, dark room that becomes crowded with only a few dozen people. Meanwhile, the local HS sits there, with hundreds of parking spots, large entrances and wide-open lobbies, not to mention gymnasiums with direct outdoor access right to the largest parking lot. If we voted on weekends and/or declared election day a holiday, we could use the school. (yes, I know, feature, not bug)

      1. TsWkr

        Good comment. I think if there is a way to assist people who can’t take the thousands of steps necessary to reach the poll, it’s a good solution. I’m not sure how arenas are set up, can there be relatively direct access from the parking lot to the arena floor like you have for outdoor stadiums?

    3. lyman alpha blob

      Part of the problem is having too many polling places shut down so people can’t vote in their own neighborhoods, causing them to have to travel a lot further and/or wait in very ling lines to cast a ballot. I don’t see how having one huge polling place fixes this.

      And do read this one from Black Injustice Tipping Point today –

      I’m a big sports fan and really never liked Lebron James much. I find him very naive and not particularly bright, but I did gain a newfound respect for him when he spoke out for BLM, questioned whether voting would do anything at all if the voting system itself is riddled with systemic racism and was one of the leaders in getting players to walk out a few days ago. He was right on the money with all of that.

      But now I read this article which says Obama intervened after the players had decided to walk out and likely end the season, and met with James and others to convince them to start playing again but use their platform to advocate for other changes, one of those being voting in NBA arenas. Now I’m back to seeing James as incredibly naive.

      So Obama completely took the side of the billionaires again, and tamped down the players’ righteous protest that was going to hit billionaires right in the wallet where it would really hurt. I really can’t stand this charlatan, but people just lap up the treacle drooling out of this man’s mouth.

      When is it that will will start judging people by the content of their characters? Obama has been very fortunate in that so many are willing to overlook his.

    4. Katniss Everdeen

      So now it’s the size of the venue that presents an impediment to voting?

      Over the years the problems have variously been inadequate numbers of functioning voting machines, ever-changing voter ID requirements and the costs and documentation difficulties in fulfilling them, and “glitches” in the system of voter registration and verification thereof.

      Now the ability to “socially distance” while voting in person in the age of covid can be added to the list.

      This sounds like a “solution” in search of a “problem” that needs to be “solved” so everybody can feel good about getting back to the business and profit of basketball.

    5. wadge22

      What’s necessary for safety in coronatime is one thing. But this is coming as a result of a political protest movement with a particular point of view based on their sense of urgency to act now. Possibly with Obama’s endorsement, no less. If we are setting a precedent for displacing or changing our current politically agnostic, smaller, more local voting practices I think it at least raises questions.

      Combining the get out the vote, political advocacy, and now potentially the voting machines themselves into the hands (and budgets) of corporate media/entertainment entities seems like a bad road to go down. Will the NBA arena voting be as nonpartisan and boring as the old city hall building or whatever? Will the players still be sharing their personal views and endorsements on twitter?
      Will the arena voting be “for NBA fans” a little more than just being for everybody? If so, and just from my uneducated impressions of the politics of NBA fans (including me), it’s not hard to picture an exciting circus of Trump hate housed in a building built for grand spectacle.
      Can we expect Nascar to have their version next election? The megachurches? Major art museums teaming up with the New York Times? Surely the incentive would be there if this is seen as increasing turnout among one voting group vs others.

      Also, I’d love to believe the NBA can be fair and impartial administrators of something. But they sure can’t do it with referees during basketball games, nor season schedules, nor the draft, so I’m not ready to trust them with democracy just yet.

      1. Oji

        “Can you even get to these arenas without a car or bus fair?”

        Same question could be asked of existing polling places, no? Don’t see how that’s an issue particular to arenas. Also, as I said, arenas are likely far better served by public transport than existing places.

        Also, do arenas replace existing polling places, or act in addition to? Haven’t seen a definitive answer on that one, so it’s probably too quick to assume that conclusion.

        1. Darthbobber

          Under normal conditions, polling places in most of Philly are within a half-mile walk if you can walk. For the primary, the smaller ones (my usual polling place is a nail salon the rest of the time) were taken out of action on social distancing grounds, leaving basically the ones located in schools and community centers.

          But still better than sending everybody down to South Philly to the Sixers’ arena. (and for the non-drivers, even if the site were not jam-packed you wouldn’t be able to say that for the Broad Street line.

      2. polecat

        No .. well, Yes .. but one has to crawl, as per the ‘cousins’ in the series “Breaking Bad” …

        Homage, and all that ..

    6. Ford Prefect

      Story on the radio I hear today says that only 20% of NBA players are registered to vote (don’t know if that is all players or just Americans). In either case, that would be unacceptable. People with the means to do it need to register to vote and vote, or stop complaining.

      1. BenLA

        Those blacks need to be put in there place right?
        How dare they try to use there power to try and change things.
        They could really cause problems for those benevolent billionaires who spent a lot of money for something that would be worthless without the labor of the players.
        I miss anything?

          1. polar donkey

            I’ve seen lots/interacted with a many of pro-basketball players. 20% rate of voter registration is about right. Some smart ones, some dumb ones, but common denominator is 95% of them are physical freaks who have been told how great they are since middle school. Even the bench warmers have unbelievable wealth, drive expensive cars, and live pampered lives. That messes with your head and makes you tremendously self-absorbed.

    1. NotTimothyGeithner

      This is Sullivan without an editor. Sullivan like David Brock only care about their treatment in elite circles. Guilt driven liberals hold them up to ignore their own abuses. Beyond that, it’s to hell with everyone else. If this is what Sullivan writes, imagine what he says in his circle. If Trump had managed without the brand Evangelicals, Sullivan would have spoken at the RNC.

      Every Bernie Bro complaint was pure projection by Centrists.

      1. David

        I read the whole piece and it didn’t come across that way. It’s trivially true that a government that can’t provide security for it own people loses legitimacy in their eyes, and that when government can’t provide the security then others may step in to do so. Even the Islamic State gained some respect for the security it provided. And it’s true that if there’s no basic security there’s nothing much else either, even if in the comfortable West we are inclined to forget that. I agree that you’re not supposed to say these things, but that doesn’t make them any less true.

        1. NotTimothyGeithner

          But he isn’t discussing security. The current police are terror outfits. He’s referring to threats to rich people. Sullivan is a fine example of the person that was driven to support Bull Connor. He would prefer not to because Connor is a bit of a bumpkin, but this is Andy.

          And given Sullivan’s embrace of modern phrenology, no one is giving him the benefit of the doubt.

        2. JTMcPhee

          Islamic State manufactured the insecurity in large measure. Part of the game plan laid out in this article: “ A Point of View: Isis and what it means to be modern ,”

          There are parallels in US history — westward expansion led to lawlessness, countered by “Regulators” which then became corrupt exploiters “under color of law.”

        3. curlydan

          Sullivan’s persistence in demanding “law and order” all the time from a party he supports is just cherry picking on his part. One man’s law and order might be another’s repression. Jacob Blake can be called an “alleged rapist”, but he deserves equal treatment under the law.

          Democrats can do more to address the issues, like propose solutions to turn police departments around (less militarization, focus on hiring non-veterans or people who like to de-escalate situations, etc). Because right now, Trump is offering no solutions except to bang some heads and sweep any problems under the rug. The Democrats’ failure, as is often the case, is just to say “we’re not him” instead of offering any actual solutions to the problems.

          Sullivan does talk a bit about those dynamics, but he also seems to think all the problems are coming from Antifa and Marxists. He’s certainly not getting to the root of the problem when he’s focused on those marginal actors.

          1. periol

            If “law and order” meant really buckle down on crooked corporations, monopolies, and white collar crime instead of cracking down on some people protesting against widespread corruption, then I’d be a “law and order” voter too.

      2. Lee

        My main problem with the violence against property committed by some at these demonstrations is tactical rather than moral. Do these acts win or lose hearts and minds, is the question. Do they encourage or discourage more progressive direct action by others. Will their focus on racial injustice broaden to include those injustices based on our class structure?

        Voting rights notwithstanding, it’s pretty clear to me that demonstrations limited to the streets, whether peaceful or violent, have a history of marginal effectiveness when it comes to structural change resulting in the sustained delivery of universal concrete material benefits. Something more broad based than the minimalist demand to not be shot down in the streets based on one’s race is required for that minimalist demand to be met.

        1. JustAnotherVolunteer

          This. I think many of the protesters are caught in the trap of a less and less effective tactic because they lack a broader strategy. They have made their demands heard – they need to move on to actionable steps and repetition doesn’t improve the odds.

          1. Rod

            yes–a deeper playbook required with other ‘targets’.

            but, they are doing what they can with no formal playbook for this time

          2. barefoot charley

            They don’t have a strategy. On the left they want to F**k S**t Up and on the right they’re happy to contribute. They want to fight with each other, like small-town kids on Saturday night, but with grudges. They’re eager to act out.

            The Repubs have always been cool with playing with fire, and the Dems are getting there too, despite their contempt for everything their Black Bloc Boyz and Girlz ‘fight’ for. But we have to remember that BLM was instantly corporate-coopted, if not actually created like Earth Day was, by colossal sponsors and marketers. Do lefty rioters get bottled water from their sponsors too?

            1. lordkoos

              It’s a very small minority who want to “fu** sh** up”. The majority just wants to see some change happen.

              1. barefoot charley

                Yes. I’m talking about the small minority of geared-up rioters who swarm after the protests at night. I understood their ‘tactics’ to be under discussion.

          3. juno mas

            Well, from the BLM perspective, these demands have been going on for generations. You’re right that the repetition hasn’t improved the “odds” for change.

            While some protesters/participants have found personal aggrandizement (looting) irresistible, most are peaceful and the violent force is coming from the police. People in the streets is essential to expressing the intensity of one’s belief/convictions; it also demonstrates solidarity.

            The BLM movement is not lacking in a broader strategy: they are active in local and state legislative bodies and highlight the true sentiments of local police departments (“Protect and Serve”, whom?).

            1. JWP

              The question then is, are they active in the best way? I’m not well caught up on it what actions the BLM elected officials have taken, but i see few policies to transfer power into the hands of the people by kneecapping large companies and power structures. I’ve seen little attempts for unification between BLM protestors and those seeking to strike and protest their jobs and employers, an area where there is much common ground. As well as almost no focus on predatory banking practices and the funding and arming of police departments by tech and financial institutions, which constantly repress and prey on black people. I welcome some examples if they are out there, i suspect MSM would keep them repressed.

              I think going after symbols of universal oppression such as banks, dollar generals, walmarts, and others would be a better use of protesting and legislating.

          4. Darthbobber

            Or in some cases it’s not a tactic at all, but a pose they copy from their understanding of things elsewhere. My brother reports to me from Wichita that the main group of posers holds near-nightly ill-attended demonstrations which stay reliably in the 30-40 body range, but they affect slogans from the most militant factions nationally and like to dress up in paramilitary fashion.

        2. a different chris

          >that demonstrations limited to the streets

          Really bounding the assertion with “limited to the streets” aren’t you?

          Nobody thinks that marching around is going to accomplish something all by itself. Remember a politician is somebody “who finds a parade and gets out in front of it”.

          So you march around, and finally some marginal elected official or wannabe elected official says “hey I can get some TV time out of this” and then everybody has to pay attention and the appropriate legislative body needs to look busy and maybe it passes over or maybe they have to do something.

          The Bonus Army did eventually get paid.

          Works a little better than anonymous comments on blogs, at least if my experience of being ignored is any guide.

          1. Lee

            In not limiting demonstrations to the streets, I was thinking more of labor strikes. There’s one going among inessential yet highly paid athletes. Maybe the idea will catch on among the less well paid essentials.

              1. flora

                It is a strike if you and your team not working unless things change costs your bosses millions. ;)

            1. newcatty

              IMO, a person to listen to regarding truth to power is Reverend Barber. Invite you to look up The Poor People’s Campaign organization. His clear eyed view is that , indeed people of color are exploited and basic needs are ignored, but he emphasizes that it is not only people of color who suffer from their government’s and society’s neglect and exploitation. The obvious fact: it is actually a class and caste problem in this country. Poor people are of every race, background, creed or religion, ethnicity, and geographic location. This is being highlighted by the increase in poverty, unemployment and underemployment, homelessness, loss of healthcare insurance (for those who had it through workplace), hunger, and as noted: increase in depression and hopelessness. Divide and conquer through ID politics and propaganda of fear and loathing of the other has, and is, working well for the PTB. This is the plan to pit classes against each other. And, the need to be right or have some kind of self-worth by being above some other by not being that other as beneath your color, creed or religion, political views, social status is the result of that agenda.

              Now, more people are being scared s***less that they may loss status or even basic needs fulfilled. Those “folks” with the guns are increasing in number due to divide and conquer strategy working. Annies are arming themselves as their current reality is like the Wild West. Black men are arming themselves for the same reasons. Don’t know how this is going to play out.

      3. chuck roast

        When I first heard the word troll as it was associated with internet activity it was directed at Andrew Sullivan. So, when you say, “Andrew Sullivan”, I think, “troll.”

  9. Pat

    Silly Michael Moore. I appreciate that he is nearer reality than so many of our media, and once again realizes the Democratic shoo-in is not a shoo-in. But apparently he is willfully missing that the very people who could act to change this are the ones who moved heaven and earth to be in this position. That they have rejected the policies that people are begging for in favor of continued coziness with their globalist financial overlords and have linked hands with the neoconservative war mongers to keep power here and abroad to maintain that overlord status.

    All they can run on is orange man bad, and they have already harvested those voters, including Michael Moore. To win they would need to reject either donor or alliance.

    I’m tempted to go on Twitter just to respond

    “So sad for.voters willing to settle for the orange man bad. It is going to be a bad few months possibly even years. Unfortunately for those of us who realize that both choices are hideous we are guaranteed a bad future.”

    1. Pelham

      Agreed. Or maybe not entirely. What if we got a Democratic Congress plus Trump? Yes, it’s a hideous future, but one that might last just four years rather than the likelier ruinous infinity promised by a Biden/Harris White House and a Democratic or split Congress with an electorally validated and revivified neoliberalism — plus neoconservatism applied abroad.

      I recommend that progressives and populists (especially the latter) begin to seriously consider voting for Trump. I know, it’s difficult, but there are 60-some days to edge oneself bit by bit into that frame of mind.

      1. JTMcPhee

        You really expect a Democratic congress to push the needed agenda? All those pols, bought and paid for by the corporate power structure, beholden to the people who bribe them and able to thumb their noses, pretty much, at the polity they are supposed to “represent” in our representative government?

        They’ve hardly made any use of the several opportunities They have had to have any popular effect on the Machine…

      2. Tom Doak

        A Democratic Congress would still see Doug Jones, Joe Manchin and others taking turns voting against any “controversial” bills, in order to preserve the Democratic majority.

        Plus they’d make the Grand Bargain with Trump, though the terms might be better than Obama would have gotten from Boehner.

      3. albrt

        Democrats would be lucky if a presidential victory resulted in taking office at all, much less lasting more than four years. Today’s democrats are intentionally incompetent at literally everything. Including messaging, since democrats consistently run on the idea that they are competent, which everyone can easily see is not true.

        It would be interesting to see what Trump would do with a democrat controlled congress. Probably not good, but interesting.

        However, I doubt the democrats are competent enough to win both houses.

    2. Katniss Everdeen

      Rather than joining the massively overcrowded TDS / Orange Man Bad chorus, I wish Moore would use whatever relevance he has left to call attention to under-the-radar elections that would really make a difference–the richie neal primary in Massachusetts for instance.

      Exposing this powerful corporate hack nationally, along with the democrats’ slimy targeting of his primary opponent in order to keep neal crankin’ out the corporate favors in congress, would be a lot more helpful in “getting things done” than another lame “uh oh, Trump might win” tweet.

      For all the noise about the presidential election, the real power is in congress, particularly its committees. I’d go so far as to say that all the presidential hype is designed to keep that part of “election season” as under wraps as possible. It’s not like they teach in-depth civics anymore.

      neal and his similarly fossilized partner-in-crime kevin brady singlehandedly killed a bill to end “surprise” medical billing on behalf of a whole host of predatory medical profiteers. Everyone in the country deserves to be told that, over and over until they get it. Moore should get off the broken down Trump bandwagon and onto one that really matters.

    3. arte

      From his first documentary on, Moore’s original style had him asking the naive emperor’s clothes questions, and/or making some “common sense” suggestions to those in positions of power. Having no fear of playing the uncynical fool, and then showing the standard corporate response, was quite effective.

      He is still “being silly” in actually asking the questions, looking at the data, and making warnings or suggestions, and because of (not despite) that, often surprisingly close to reality.

      But of course, nowadays there is never any response to Moore – except to run away if cornered. The oligopoly might throw him a bone during award season, but he is kept in a corner, preaching to the already converted. He can still symbolically “speak truth to power”, but he is far too pigeonholed to get wide acceptance to his message – and anyway, any US-controlled social media platforms’ algorithms are always there to dampen the impact.

    4. Randy G.

      Thank you, Pat.

      Articulated my feelings exactly — eat your sh*#t sandwich on rye because otherwise you will have to eat your sh*#t sandwich on Wonder Bread.

      I’m not eating either — no matter the absurdist nonsense coming from Moore, Sanders, Chomsky, et al.
      I’ve seen this movie again and again — last time in 2016 — and it always ends badly.
      If Jill Stein, or Dennis Kucinich, or Jesse Ventura, or maybe Susan Sarandon were running — I would offer another protest vote. Probably won’t even bother with that this time.

      And no, not playing 11-dimensional chess and voting Trump; he’s also a mind-numbing disaster. This election is a win-win for Wall Street, the parasitic “health” insurance industry, and the MIC — everybody else on this planet is going to lose.

      1. jr

        Thank you for laying that out so succinctly. The choices are zero. Trump is at least tearing the mask off of the corpse of our democracy. A sort of public service, if you will. As for Team Blue, after recently hearing about Harris covering for pedophile priests:

        any last, teeny, tiny vestiges of doubt I had about not voting for “Scratch N Sniff” Joe vaporized. To hell with them. Pedophiles and enablers, the lot of them, along with all their other crimes.

        I mean think about it, what’s left? Cannibalism? Would it still be okay, or existentially necessary, to vote Biden/Harris if one were a cannibal? Harris lets children get raped, Joe touches them inappropriately at a minimum, and both are backed by serial pedophile Bill Clinton and HRC who ran cover for his crimes.

        Since those who are voting for Biden don’t mind working with one sort of moral degenerate, is it ok to switch out degeneracies? I’m curious. What does it take?

  10. zagonostra

    – When all the politicians in top positions continue to lead in the wrong direction, or are complicit in offering little if any opposition, then my anxiety over who will win in November elections hovers at about a constant level.

  11. The Rev Kev

    “The White House Is Openly Threatening a Journalist With a ‘Dossier’’

    If Trump and his cronies really wanted to threaten a journalist, then they would only have to say to said journalist that they will treat him no differently to how Obama treated journalists when he was President.

    1. Skip

      “Please be advised that we are building up a very large ‘dossier’ on the many false David Fahrenthold and others stories as they are a disgrace to journalism and the American people.”

      The VICE article seems sloppy. The sentence might be clearer but my read is that the dossier is of offending articles claimed by the White House to be falsehoods, maybe to support their line of lying media, not a dossier on other aspects of a journalist’s life. If there’s some sort of implied threat it seems pretty loosey-goosey. I’m sure White House clipping services/media relations people compile every story on the Administration anyway. And maybe I’m not reading Fahrenthold’s comment correctly, but I’m surprised it appears the journalist drew the conclusion that the dossier expands beyond his articles, (and articles by “others”), that he’s worthy of a Nixon enemy list. Or not.

    2. TroyIA

      It’s odd how some people have no memory of anything that happened before January 20th 2017.

      AP FACT CHECK: Obama doesn’t always tell the straight story

      OBAMA: “It shouldn’t be Democratic or Republican to say that we don’t threaten the freedom of the press because they say things or publish stories we don’t like. I complained plenty about Fox News, but you never heard me threaten to shut them down or call them enemies of the people.” — rally Friday at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

      THE FACTS: Trump may use extraordinary rhetoric to undermine trust in the press, but Obama arguably went farther — using extraordinary actions to block the flow of information to the public.

      The Obama administration used the 1917 Espionage Act with unprecedented vigor, prosecuting more people under that law for leaking sensitive information to the public than all previous administrations combined. Obama’s Justice Department dug into confidential communications between news organizations and their sources as part of that effort.

      In 2013 the Obama administration obtained the records of 20 Associated Press office phone lines and reporters’ home and cell phones, seizing them without notice, as part of an investigation into the disclosure of information about a foiled al-Qaida terrorist plot.

      AP was not the target of the investigation. But it called the seizure a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into its news-gathering activities, betraying information about its operations “that the government has no conceivable right to know.”

      Obama’s Justice Department also secretly dogged Fox News journalist James Rosen, getting his phone records, tracking his arrivals and departures at the State Department through his security-badge use, obtaining a search warrant to see his personal emails and naming him as a possible criminal conspirator in the investigation of a news leak.

      “The Obama administration,” The New York Times editorial board wrote at the time, “has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news.”

  12. PlutoniumKun

    Long-awaited Celera 500L ‘bullet’ plane is finally revealed CNN. Resilc: “Will this fly as well as the F-35, 737 Max?” Moi: “This is what the Hindenburg would look like if you put it on a diet.”

    Over the years there have been many radical super-slippery designs proposed for smaller commercial aircraft, few if any have succeeded. Usually it comes down to the market dominance of the conservative big manufacturers, and difficulties with safety certs – the FAA is always very reluctant to allow some more innovative layouts, in particular with engines at the rear of the body.

    It seems to me though that there is nothing new aerodynamically about this aircraft, in fact its body looks a lot like lots of experimental aircraft from the 1950’s, including the Bell X-1. The big innovation is what the article glosses over – the use of a far more efficient engine. Most piston engines available for modern aircraft are essentially 1950’s designs. Imagine if all cars still used old engines from 70 years ago.

    1. rowlf

      What makes the Celera 500L more innovative than a Piaggio Avanti or a Cirrus Vision SF50 besides the marketing? There is also the challenge of finding owners who want to take a chance on a new design and not get stuck with an orphan or unsupported aircraft or powerplant again. Consider that military and airline operators have problems getting parts private aircraft have greater difficulties due to smaller production numbers, though private operators rarely rack up the flight hours and cycles an airline can.

      (The Cirrus link has a good overview of the certification process and cubic money consumed. I like Avantis because they sound funny.)



      See also the Beechcraft Starship saga

    2. Zamfir

      Resemblance to the X1 is accidental, the underlying aerodynamic are completely different.

      The X1 was designed to reduce drag from shock waves, a rather crude attempt by later standards. Those shocks were the dominant form of drag, the design is bothered with very little else.This celera plane is slow enough to avoid that form of drag entirely, it has no influence on the design.

      What you see here is a rather typical shape to maximize the length of the laminar boundary layer. Such boundary layers have less drag than turbulent layers, but they are easy to ‘detach’ , which is worse than a turbulent boundary layer.

      The front part of the hull here is the laminar part, where it’s gradually wider and the surrounding flow velocity increases (accelerating flow is easier to deal with than decelerating flow). Then the boundary layer switches to turbulent, and the shape quickly collapse back to a sharp point – preferably pushing the limit near deatchment even for turbulent flow. The better you manage that latter part, the longer you can make the first, low-drag part.

      That’s not a new concept, it’s been long popular with sailplanes for example. But it gets more difficult with higher velocities, and this one flies very fast for such an approach – if they have that working, it might a genuine improvement on the state of the art.

        1. rowlf

          The Piaggio and the Beechcraft played it safe with propellers mounted directly to the engines. Problems making propshafts reliable have stymied a few designs in the past.

          I couldn’t find if the Celera 500L will be pressurized, what the structure material was to be or what environmental control system it will have. For such low power it has a very large cross-section so maybe they are using a rubber slide rule. I wish them luck but having been a steady reader of aviation publications since the mid sixties I’ve been innovated many times. Also making me skeptical is Otto Aviation claiming many innovations that have actually existed for eighty years, such as thrust recovery from heat and exhaust augmentation.

      1. RMO

        Extensive laminar flow has been a target of sailplane designers starting in the late 40s. It wasn’t until the advent of glassfibre composites in the mid-60s that it became a practical goal. Even with them it’s been shown that achieving extensive laminar flow requires less than about five-thou of waviness over an inch of chord of the airfoils. That is difficult to achieve and maintain in operation. Even a fairly small accumulation of insects on the leading edge can seriously disrupt the laminar flow – so much so that high performance sailplanes are frequently ordered with a mechanism that is capable of cleaning the leading edges while in flight. Another problem to guard against is that the laminar flow can sometimes separate from the surface in the form of a large “bubble” instead of transitioning to turbulent flow directly and this can dramatically increase drag. Sometimes the airfoil will only develop this bubble in a certain speed range. Turbulator strips or turbulator blow-holes are methods used to combat this. In a powered aircraft they might be able to apply some form of active powered boundary layer control system to improve the lift/drag characteristics. With high performance sailplanes we usually store them in the trailer or a hangar or cover the wings until just before we go flying, we clean and polish them regularly and we normally go for a seven or eight hour flight at the most a couple of times a week. Even with this sort of operation keeping the ship in good enough shape to keep that laminar flow takes quite a bit of care. Making it work in an always-on-the-go, all-weather commercial operation may be considerably more difficult.

        Just at a glance that aeroplane looks like it must have a pretty high wingloading and i would really like to see how they’re trying to achieve an acceptably forgiving center of gravity range with the arm and volume those tail surfaces have.

    3. Bill Smith

      The F-35 flies just fine. That said, as is common with aircraft, the fuel that keeps it aloft is money and a lot of it.

      I’m interested in some information on that comment about the FAA and engines at the rear.

      1. periol

        “The F-35 flies just fine.”

        Yes, if the maintenance teams can manage to get an F-35 into the air, once it is there it flies fine, as long as pilots ignore the faulty software telling them it is not flying fine. Can’t shoot anything with the gun, but it flies just fine.

        1. Wukchumni

          I was hiking with a friend yesterday when an F-35 was flying overhead and she related that “gee, it’s a lot louder than any other jets”. To the plane’s credit, it didn’t crash within earshot of us and kept going.

    4. Charger01

      Fundamnetally, internal combustion engines are 100+ year old design. Turbos, injection systems and computers make the “suck, bang, boom, blow” much more efficient.

    5. rowlf

      The big innovation is what the article glosses over – the use of a far more efficient engine. Most piston engines available for modern aircraft are essentially 1950’s designs.

      Just to be contrary, may I direct attention to the Napier Nomad engine? A lot of this technology has been tried before and with a lot of funding. Omitted is all of the Wankel engine development for aircraft.

  13. dougie

    Honest question, not trying to start a kerfuffle. What am I missing? Major media outlets that I have seen(deliberately few) make no mention of the National Hockey League response to the institutional racism and murder taking place in America?

    Granted, it is not as high a profile sport in the USA, but it gives me “hope” that if the “lily whitest” of the sports leagues will understand and support the need for change, it perhaps sends a “stronger” message than NBA stars who stand to gain more financially(brand building,etc.) from their support.

    Perhaps I am just to cynical.

    And yes, I do love to compose run on sentences.

    1. lyman alpha blob

      I was pleasantly surprised and very heartened to see the NHL joining in. Hopefully they will not let Obama kill their momentum as he seems to have done with the NBA protests.

      If I were the NHLPA, I’d get Donald Brashear out of retirement just to punch Obama in the face in case he shows up trying to water down their protest.

      1. dougie

        Brashear would work, but I bet Tie Domi would get in more licks before before they were separated!

        1. lyman alpha blob

          I had the pleasure of seeing Domi fight in person at a Bruins game years ago. I don’t remember who he fought, but I do know his head alone was bigger than the other guy. He was definitely tough to get the better of.

    2. Savedbyirony

      I disagree with your take. The NHL took an extra day for their league Officials to sanction an official symbolic shutdown, and they did it because compared to a number of other sports which had players striking (such as MLB, tennis, WNBA, soccer) which caused whole teams to declare they would not play, the NHL looked bad and was getting flack not from their fans but some media and I suspect some ownership from other sports leagues. They did not postpone games do to a concern for institutional racism, imo, nor was it player lead or significantly pushed for or forced.

      I also disagree with your take of the risks/rewards to the NBA players. The Bucks went on strike, period. By doing that they not only risked forfeiture of an important game and significant fines but also caused four other teams to go on strike that night in solidarity. By doing this, the NBA players basically put in jeopardy their CBA with the NBA owners. That the NBA brass stepped in to spin all this to game postponements does not change the fact that NBA players walked out and took much greater risks doing it than NHL players. Also, the NBA players sent two very strong messages. 1.) They will strike, they will stop playing/entertaining in this championship tournament if things do not change and 2.) which I think is probably even more important, they will not only have each others backs and act collectively doing so, but they will draw other professional athletes into acting with them (and with the NFL about to start up, this factor only gains more force).

      I have been listening to a good deal of ESPN commentary lately. The talking heads there do not offer much “respect” towards the NHL’s actions. I agree with their cynicism, but more telling to me is that as regards the NHL, it is not primarily players (though there have been a few) bringing the pressure for the NHL to address institutional racism (including the depth of institutional racism that runs through hockey from the junior leagues on up) or causing disruption in game rituals or scheduling.

      1. JWP

        “I have been listening to a good deal of ESPN commentary lately. The talking heads there do not offer much “respect” towards the NHL’s actions.”

        The NHL does not get much respect from ESPN in the first place. It is not a cash cow for them and has been slowly pushed aside by them for years. Any commentary from ESPN on the NHL at this point is superficial at best. The NHL has been a fairly apolitical league with the sport itself generating far less controversy than any other major sport, so a response reflective of that past is expected. So long as they do something it will be acceptable and we will hear about it if the existing racism within its ranks isn’t addressed. Once we get beyond that, it becomes more msm/cancel culture pressure to say “you’re either going all in or you’re a racist.”

  14. The Rev Kev

    “They Know How to Prevent Megafires. Why Won’t Anybody Listen?”

    Perhaps they should listen more to the people that have been doing precautionary burns for the past 13,000 years. They are bound to have picked up a few tips and tricks along the way. Aborigines use the same techniques in Australia but it is interesting to read how native Americans do the same thing with their own variations. The fires help kill off oak acorn pests and make it easier to harvest the nuts for example and it seems that regular firefighters do training exchange with them-

    1. Carolinian

      As I mentioned here the other day there’s a documentary about this that showed up on my local PBS channel and may be making the rounds of others. The gist is that the century long Forest Service “no fires” policy did the opposite of what the Native Americans did and allowed fuels to build up on the forest floor and the inevitable fires to be more intense and more damaging. Anyone who’s been to Sequoia can see the fire blackened lower trunks and may even see this as an esthetic negative. But it’s the fire resistant bark that has allowed them to survive those thousands of years and the same principle applies to other trees if the fires can be kept out of the high above crown.

      And I’ve read that controlled burns were the method used by the natives across North America–particularly in the grasslands of the Midwest–and not just CA.. The mentioned documentary says the NPS has now adopted this approach too. The Forest Service on the other hand is more inclined to see trees as money and prefer salvage logging and clear cuts.

      1. pasha

        in the forest in which i live in western michigan, it was the practice of the indigenous Adawa to cut and burn all saplings that were not white oak, hickory, or beech. the forest floor was rendered brush free, making it easier to harvest the acorns and hickory nuts. in winter, they hunted the deer and turkey that came to nibble the beechnuts and acorns.

        i emulate them, cutting most saplings (sparing the dogwood and redbud and wild cherry for the birds) and keeping the floor clean, and the critters still visit all year long. clearing is good exercise, much better than having to mow a lawn!

    2. Noone from Nowheresville

      What I “loved” this week was that we don’t have the money to fight the fires or use these Native techniques to manage/prevent megafires. Yet a hedge fund can make a wager and get $3 Billion with a b win.

      I know, I know the devil is in the details but there’s something wrong with the world when the casino generates those kind of numbers but TINA exists for the problem itself and we get to just go along for the ride. Almost seems like TINA is a purposeful requirement of the casino.

      The casino just needs to go away.

    3. Wukchumni

      Much of our policy of putting every fire out the past century was on account of the largest wildfire in the USA up to it’s time in 1910, where 100 firefighters perished.

      The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire that Saved America by Timothy Egan (His book on the Dust Bowl The Worst Hard Time is also exceptional!) lays it all down in terms of what happened and the aftereffects of our misguided policy.

      In terms of prescribed burns, there are way too many hoops in the Golden State to jump through to make it go number one, we have to think more of piecemeal approaches in creating dead ends for future wildfires, and it’s just not being done, but should be.

      When I look at vintage photos from the 19th century, trees in the Sierra are spaced enough that somebody on horse could easily ride through the forest, but you wouldn’t want to try that today.

      Forests more closely resemble an amateur’s attempt to grow carrots by planting 100 seeds in an area where only a few dozen should be, and then not thinning out the rest and allowing them to become so numerous that the only thing in abundance is the green tops, with the carrots more closely resembling a #2 pencil in girth.

      1. periol

        I agree with you that prescribed burns can only go so far. Older native techniques for managing the land are good, but I don’t think we should also pretend that they were managing all of the forests on all of the mountains up and down what we now call California.

        We have a new normal (that hopefully doesn’t continue to get worse), and we need to adapt to living in this new normal. Both old and new techniques are needed.

    4. CuriosityConcern

      I wholeheartedly agree that native Americans should play more prominent roles in forest and land management. I suppose this is a generalization, but my impression of the culture is that it focuses on harmonization with nature rather than domination. That harmonization seems to be based on centuries of observation and interaction. They could probably help us come up with less spectacular ways of discovering our hubris.
      Have these “why won’t anyone listen?” articles been bothering anyone else? Sure, I can listen all day, but I don’t make policy or legislate. The headline should be, why aren’t our leaders leading?

      1. Alex Cox

        Most scheduled burns in California were canceled due to air quality/coronavirus concerns. This was stupid because we just got much larger uncontrollable burns, instead. But that’s the way it’s done.

        Meanwhile in Oregon we lack two National Guard fire-fighting Chinooks because they’re in the Horn of Africa, assisting the US Army with anti-terrorist activities – along with 1,600 National Guardsmen, who might otherwise be deployed to fight the megafires…

        1. JWP

          Quite the backdrop to the whole “keep oregon green” campaign we’ve been seeing pushed. Basically socializing the blame when the state lacks the ability to do its job.

          1. pasha

            don’t blame the local government, this is all on the feds. only four percent of oregon’s forests are owned by the state. the vast majority of its splendid forests are owned by the feds, with weyerhouser and its ilk mismanaging the rest.

      2. Charger01

        Have these “why won’t anyone listen?” articles been bothering anyone else? Sure, I can listen all day, but I don’t make policy or legislate. The headline should be, why aren’t our leaders leading?

        Who are their donors? Quite a few interested parties are invested in mantaining the status quo. Who benefitsis the real question and answer as to the “why”…..

        1. John Wright

          I believe people in California are listening to the controlled burn advocates, but there are many groups that would like to push controlled burns always to next year.

          A few groups come to mind, tourism, homeowners, real estate developers and real estate agents in the regions slated for a controlled burn will want to postpone the burn indefinitely.

          And there will be concern that a controlled burn will go uncontrolled and do far more damage than planned, causing controlled burns to lose public support..

          See “Controlled burn morphs into wildfire in Alabama” April 17, 2020 (

          Furthermore, much of CA is rated as fire vulnerable (much of the coast and forested regions) so a controlled burn in one area will not prevent another area from burning, an area that was possibly slated for a controlled burn in a later time period.

          Selling prevention is difficult as an area that is controlled burned may not have burned on its own for decades.

          Taking action on controlled burns is similar to taking action on climate change, easy to write about but difficult to accomplish without a strong interest group to advocate for controlled burning..

          Maybe the insurance industry will be pushing for controlled burns in the future?

          BTW, as I write this the PurpleAir AQI readings in my Northern California neighborhood area range from 171 to 190. This is rated as “unhealthy”.

    5. Wukchumni

      The Castle Fire went from a few hundred acres last week to 26,000 currently with no containment and it threatens a few mountain communities on the west, but really nothing to the east, south and north, and ought to be allowed to run it’s course taking out nature acres that have been untouched by fire in like forever.

      Instead we’ll throw huge sums of money and men at it, as is our custom.

    6. rd

      People have a hard time preparing and planning for disasters because the magnitude of what is coming is often unimaginable, even if it is presented clearly in a memo. People are also not programmed to really deal with infrequent events – we largely live in the moment.

      These fires are nothing compared to another major California disaster waiting to happen – a Central Valley mega flood that happens every 100-200 years and the last one was 1862.

      Sacramento and the Central Valley would have 15+ feet of water in it for several months (it would look like Lake Superior from space). 25% of the US food supply would be disrupted for at least a year. Industrial animal farms and oil and gas fields may contaminate the entire valley with significant health risks.

      California has been doing work to address the seismic risks that have been better defined over the past century. They are now starting to understand that wildfires and debris flows from fire areas are a major risk. But there are other bigger ones out there. American and California refusal to address potential disasters is starting to hit home.

      I note that climate change makes these disasters worse, but climate change is not the primal cause – they are inherent to the state. The issues are locked into the geography and geology of the state and there is enough historical evidence of past events that are as big or bigger than events that have occurred in the past 200 years, that climate change isn’t necessary to explain bad things happening in the future. Recognizing that there is climate and geology is necessary to inititate planning.

      1. Wukchumni

        The flooding in the Central Valley 1862 while most impressive, was ho hum compared to the great flood of 1605. There was also massive floods in 212, 440, 603, 1029, 1418.

        These sort of megafoods hit California every 200 or 400 years with uncanny timing and we’re getting close to the 200 year mark.

        The majority of Ag in the CV is now tree crops, and of course they’d be completely wiped out by such a flood, and it would take around a decade for most trees to be replanted and bear fruit or nuts.

        1. Charger01

          LOL. You want a real deal disaster? The super caldera at Yellowstone or even a small scale eruption of Mount Rainier would serious impact the entire pacific northwest commerce, if not the entire western us.

          1. Wukchumni

            The 1862 flood went well into Oregon, it was no shrinking violet, but yeah Yellowstone blowing up real good would be some really bad Thera-fu!

            ‘The eruption also generated 35 to 150 m (115 to 492 ft) high tsunamis that devastated the northern coastline of Crete, 110 km (68 mi) away.”


    7. Tomonthebeach

      What has been marginalized in this discussion is climate change and resistance to re-tooling our infrastructure (our roads, houses, woodlands, beaches, etc.). I cannot disagree with any of the posts here on wildfires but look at the houses and the cities with the houses. Paradise was in the deep woods with growth right up to the eaves of the houses. Now there are chimneys and slab foundations. Mexico Beach homes mostly were not built to code. The 2018 hurricane blew the houses to smithereens and the storm surge washed the dead and debris out to sea.

      Most wildfires are caused by downed power lines, yet California does not cut back vegetation far from poles as Florida and some other states do. Winds also topple trees which domino into power poles because power companies do not remove trees that threaten power poles or run power lines underground as we do in my Florida county. Many people who live in hurricane country have inadequate escape routes for evacuation, and/or their homes cannot stand up to high winds, and/or they are in flood planes. This situation is epidemic along the East Coast.

      What is FEMA for? There is no national coordinated effort to harden against climate change. A few counties, like mine, have taken effective steps to improve. But it is up to homeowners to harden their homes against climate change. There are no tax incentives, no cheap loan programs, and no state prohibitions against building in flood-prone areas like along rivers.

    8. BobW

      I recall seeing years ago a satellite view of the US-Mexico border showing much smaller wildfire burn areas on the Mexican side than on the US side. Unable to find it now despite a couple of tries with Google and DuckDuckGo. Easy to spot the razor-straight border.

  15. Pelham

    Re Andrew Sullivan declaring himself a fascist: I dunno. Weren’t the fascists in Weimar Germany the ones whose Steel Helmets and brownshirts were causing mayhem in the streets? In that regard, Antifa and BLM fit the mold more than unionized, working-class police or troops trying to maintain order. Or Andrew Sullivan.

    BTW, re the latest eruptions, I recommend the following on Jacob Blake:

      1. The Rev Kev

        Yeah, I can buy this. They were exactly the ones who believed in the German proverbial saying ‘Ordnung muß sein’ which means “there must be order.” Of course the other German states were not too fond of the Prussians and their ideas truth be told.

        1. apleb

          They hated the prussian overlordism, but Ordnung muß sein could be the official motto of all of Germany. Even when the others liked a bit more dolce vita or dolce far niente, they certainly favored “Ordnung” very highly.

          1. Wukchumni

            GI’s in Europe in WW2 noticed that in France, Belgium and other battlefields in city situations that the carnage was often just left as it fell there in the aftermath, but Germans were Johnny on the spot in terms of cleaning things up, in contrast.

            They were just following order.

      2. Pelham

        True, but there was an angry, stab-in-the-back popular movement that the Junkers got behind. Perhaps we can see something similar now with our mega-corporations backing BLM and instituting mandatory re-education through their HR departments.

    1. ed orourke

      Andrew Sullivan has always been a fascist. The Democrats just ignored it because he was “a conservative” who supported Old Hope and Change and was sufficiently “woke” to be on the side of the angels. He is a horrible person, has always been a horrible person and will remain – until his death – a really horrible person.
      (I just reread this and have suddenly realized why I don’t get invited to perform eulogies anymore.)

      1. Lee

        LOL. One of the benefits of speaking ill of the dead is that they can neither interrupt nor contradict you.

    2. lordkoos

      It’s worth recalling that to date “Antifa” has killed no one — you certainly cannot say that about the extreme right-wing. A certain amount of “mayhem” is caused by idiotic police responses and agent provocateurs, not protesters.

    3. pasha

      to pelham: while over 2000 cities have seen peaceful protest marches (protected under the first amendment), i defy you to show BLM violence (and property damage, while deplorable, is not “violence to the person”). all death has been caused by police, or by right wing militias armed with cars and guns. i can attest that those arrested for looting in detroit and grand rapids were white kids from the suburbs, and the ‘proud boys’ attacked protesters in kalamazoo while the police looked on. it is pretty clear who the fascists are.

      1. Aumua

        Remember kids: fascists love to try and pin the label on their enemies. It’s one of their bread and butter tactics.

      2. integer

        i defy you to show BLM violence

        Seeing as you put it like that, here’s an example:

        Also, I’ve watched a lot of videos of BLM protests/riots/looting and I’ve seen plenty in which it is Black people who are doing the looting. AFAICT the devotees of both sides have a total lack of objectivity, are filled with hate for those with whom they don’t agree, and have no interest in putting forward realistically implementable solutions. IMO this is a dynamic from which no good can arise.

        (And yes, I think the core premise of BLM is just.)

  16. Drake

    “No, because they were failures. All sorts of fake things regularly succeed, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident.”

    Johnson clearly and convincingly makes the case in the cited article that Russiagate was not a failure. Everybody got what they wanted, Russia hawks in particular.

    1. Michael Fiorillo

      If/when Orange Man is re-elected, it will in part be because the #McResistance TM squandered over three years on a preposterous conspiracy theory (Russiagate) they thought would magically remove Trump, while simultaneously 1) restoring the authority of Cold War interventionists in the National Security State, 2) deflecting attention away from the Best and Brightest losers who lost to the most unpopular presidential candidate in history, and 3) allowed the #McResistance TM media to pretend opposition to (and continue to make bank on) a candidate they gave billions in free publicity to.

      The dirty (and sometimes unmindful) secret of the #McResistance TM is that their real enemy, Bernie Sanders, has been defeated and rendered impotent. Their continued wealth and power will continue under a second Orange Man term; electing Uncle Joe would just be the icing on the gravy…

    2. rob

      russia gate was definitely not a failure.
      look at this, years on….
      all the while… money is being made. the status quo goes unmolested, and in fact has more time and opportunity to enmesh itself in every aspect of our existence.
      the establishment duopoly plays the “foes” on the reality tv show….” our government.”.. all the while the editors make it look real… and the marketing dept makes use of every nook and cranny to exact payment for the machine, from the unwashed….. while the owners live it up in obscurity and immunity.
      and here we are , some people thinking something didn’t work out.Like one team thwarted the other.
      The time it takes to figure it out, is it “working out”

  17. Tom Stone

    The National Shooting Spoerts foundation just came out with a report showing that Ameria has seen just shy of 5 Million first time gun buyers this year.
    58% of those first time buyers were African American.
    The second largest demographic was women.
    A resurgence in the popularity of cross burning might be short lived….

    1. Wukchumni

      It’s all fun & games until the proles go out and buy uniforms in hues of red & blue, in order to complete their indoctrination into an army of sorts, unified against a common foe, us.

    2. Lee

      Throughout her career, it is believed that Oakley taught more than 15,000 women how to use a gun. Oakley believed strongly that it was crucial for women to learn how to use a gun, as not only a form of physical and mental exercise, but also to defend themselves.[6] She said: “I would like to see every woman know how to handle guns as naturally as they know how to handle babies.” Wikipedia

      And here’s Killer Mike on black ownership of guns. Pitchfork

      He referenced a statement he made following the murder of Ahmaud Arbery, saying he was “urging people who look like me to take seriously shooting, training, and the protection of our rights.”

      Mike went on to insist that members of the black community cannot always count on law enforcement for protection, and that the task of defending oneself and one’s family often falls in the hands of the individual. “My message to Black people across the country is the same today as it was a year ago: the only person you can count on to protect yourself and your family is you,” Mike wrote.

      America is a rough neighborhood.

  18. a different chris

    Well here is the world we (try to) live in:

    “Biden narrowly wins bragging rights”

    “Biden speech trounces Trump’s” — I will save you the Dkos link, but here’s the source.

    Ok, so different sources? No, the first states “The Nielsen company says that…” and the second has this to say about the tweeter: “FOX Sports EVP / Head of Strategy. Data provided by Nielsen Media Research except as noted.”

    And it wasn’t “noted” that it came from anywhere else.

    What a mess the elites of this country are. But everybody keep quoting polling statistics at me, yeah right.

  19. Wukchumni

    A Woman Called the Cops Because She Thought Store-Bought Meat Was a Penis Vice. If production lines weren’t so tightly controlled, it’s not hard to imagine the creation of pork dildos as a form of employee revenge. Or a speciality cut?
    I like to sleep in Giant Sequoia trees that have been hollowed out by fire, leaving a small entrance to a womb with no view. Perhaps i’ve slumbered in a dozen in that fashion, and you have to get over the fear that should it decide to cash it in and fall over while catching some z’s, you’re dead meat.

    One of the trees is on the backside of Crescent Meadow in Sequoia NP, and the entrance was much bigger when a conflagration came calling many hundreds of years ago, and the bark has since then closed in on the opening to an extent where it looks just like lady parts, thus the moniker ‘The Vagina Tree’.

    I’m hesitant to call the coppers on this caper, but thought somebody in authority ought to know.

  20. The Rev Kev

    “The Future of American Industry Depends on Open Source Tech”

    A major problem is that corporate executives do not want to give up on exclusive control of software for maximum profit(eering). Having said that, I notice that the Pentagon has had competitions where they expose software online and all those that find a fault with it that can be logged win financial rewards along with the credit for discovering a weakness in the system. I heard that it has been very effective in bullet-proofing their systems. On the other hand, a few years ago an security industry executive challenged hackers to go after his secure systems and had to have someone eventually beg for hackers to stop as they were overwhelmed.

    1. Jason Boxman

      Although with Open Source, I think the oft cited assumption that people are looking at the code is oversold. For example, the Heartbleed bug in OpenSSL was introduced two years prior (2012) to it being found and fixed (2014). And nearly everything on the Internet uses OpenSSL for secure web traffic (SSL/TLS).

      And this was a particularly egregious data leak bug where OpenSSL happily returned a bunch of memory in response to a specially crafted data packet; So an attacker could basically just pull supposedly secret data right out of a system, unencrypted, although at random. But do this enough times and you win.

      Not enough people looked, and had the necessary skill to understand the code as written.

      That said, I prefer Open to proprietary any day of the week, and this is an area where the federal government ought to be leading, if we had a functional government at all. (Open Source EMR, Point of Sale systems, ect.)

  21. Wukchumni

    In the 1930’s gun enthusiasts with a penchant for killing people were well known to the public, Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, etc.

    We have the same mechanism going on, but really only after they’ve killed somebody in cold blood, and then we dissect their internet lives online searching for an answer that led them to murder somebody they never knew heretofore. Why should we know their names, giving them 15 rounds of fame?

  22. diptherio

    The RT article on Weinstein repeats the lies about the events at Evergreen that Weinstein himself initially spread.

    Weinstein, a biology professor, became famous in 2017 after he was mobbed by angry students after refusing to vacate the Evergreen campus during a “day of absence” event, in which white students and faculty staff were expected to stay home in a contrived show of “solidarity” with black students.

    This is not at all what actually happened. No one was expected to stay home during the DoA, and the student protests of Weinstein were about an email he sent regarding that event, not anything he did during the event itself. Here’s Peter Dorman, who teaches at Evergreen, setting the record straight:

    No one was required to do anything; it was all about invitation. This seems to have pushed a button for Weinstein, who responded with an email (falsely) attacking the organizers for instructing whites to leave campus, a charge he embedded in a more sweeping claim of reverse racism.
    My main concern has been to debunk the now widely believed view that the dispute arose because the college ordered/asked/suggested whites in general to absent themselves from campus for a day. That never happened. Period. I was there in all my whiteness and have some sense of the reality.

    Dorman’s blog post is worth reading in full (along with his responses in the comments section) if you want to know what actually happened.

    Anyway, on the more currently relevant topic in the article, The Articles of Unity campaign seems pretty dumb, and politically illiterate. However I’m not much of a fan of these social media bans, as it does seem like an awfully slippery slope, and plenty of people I like have already been swept up in them.

    1. Geof

      I don’t find the article you linked to credible. It sets up a straw-man “requirement” to leave campus. These articles support Weinstein’s account, while also emphasizing that the issue was pressure, not a requirement:

      Inside Higher Ed:

      For many years at Evergreen State, minority students and faculty members have observed a Day of Absence in which they met off campus to discuss campus issues and how to make the college more supportive of all students. Later a Day of Presence reunites various campus groups. While some have objected to the way the Day of Absence worked previously, it was the 2017 version that brought scrutiny on campus and national attention. Last year, organizers said that on the Day of Absence, they wanted white people to stay off campus.


      Every spring quarter since the 1970s, Evergreen has hosted a “Day of Absence” event, where many students, faculty and staff of color gather off campus for a day to talk about race, privilege and other issues, while white students, faculty and staff are able to voluntarily participate in related conversations on campus. But tensions mounted last April when a request was made to change things up to allow participants of color to hold the Day of Absence activities on campus, while white allies participating in the Day Of Absence activities were asked to go off campus.

      It goes on: “Participation in the Day of Absence event was voluntary. Yet Professor Bret Weinstein says he felt pressured by the administration to participate.”

      To see what that pressure looked like, take a look at Mike Nayna’s documentary, particularly the creepy canoe ritual towards the end of the first video.

      1. diptherio

        Weinstein has implied there was some kind of oppressive pressure for white students to stay off campus, and in an interview on FOX allowed Tucker Carlson to claim it was some kind of requirement, without correcting him. That’s what I’d call, in the first instance, lying by implication, and in the second lying by proxy. He also tried to make the demonstrations all about him, which they most assuredly were not. Dorman is a fair site more creditable than Weinstein.

        This 3 day long event has consisted of optional workshops for people of color who share cultural practices with each other, resistance tactics against racism, and workshops for white people to do anti-racist work from a white perspective. Both groups come together in the following days and share what they have learned to build a stronger and more conscious multiracial learning environment for all. In previous years, the workshops for people of color were held off-campus (hence the “absence” in the title), but this year the administrative organizers chose to hold the workshops for white people off-campus instead. The presence day functioned the same. Weinstein stated that because the structure had reversed, and now called for the absence of white participants, it was a “show of force, and an act of oppression in itself.”

        I took the liberty of speaking to some white Evergreen students who were enrolled at the time of the 2017 DoA/DoP. One student reminded me that, like always, the Day of Absence was optional and required students to pre-enroll to attend. She did not feel forced or oppressed but made the autonomous decision to participate in the day’s events. Another white student did not enroll because of conflicting commitments, and only participated in the Day of Presence activities. He stated that there was no sense of obligation to attend, nor did he feel forced or oppressed. Many other white students echoed these sentiments including those who did not attend simply because they did not want to. Since these events were for the students, one has to wonder where Weinstein imagined this oppression if it did not happen to any of the white students who he feels were affected.

        1. periol

          IMHO Evergreen wasn’t big enough for both Weinstein and Weinstein’s ego anymore. He was just looking for the proverbial straw to break the camel’s back; a molehill he could make larger. He did not end up panhandling on the streets.

  23. Zagonostra

    The politics of reality and the reality of politics are often confused.

    Talking to an OBiden-voting friend and his pitch to me was that Trump remaining in office is about saving the country from fascism. When I tell we are already living in a type of fascism, he just sputters, ‘but yeah it could get worse. ‘

  24. Wukchumni

    Khao Kheow Open Zoo welcomes newest addition-a baby Tapir Pattya News (furzy). For you tapir fans.
    We fly a replica of the original ‘Bear Flag Republic’ which held sway for 25 days in 1846. The artist wasn’t very good at his craft, and said bruin looks a lot more like a tapir, not that’s there’s anything wrong with that.

  25. diptherio

    Lindsey Graham is also batsh*t crazy.

    What specifically should someone using TikTok just to upload a dance video or make a funny video about their dog, what should they be worried about from China?

    Well, what you worry about on social media sites. You know, so I did the thing called the EARN IT Act. If you’re a parent or you’re a young person, there’s a lot of sexual predators out there on social media sites. You strike up conversations. And we’ve got to harden these sites against abuses. One of the abuses that I’m worried about is the social media sites being used by child predators, scam artists, and now the communist Chinese party, having your data. That’s not good. It’s not good to have a business enterprise penetrate America this much, owned by the Chinese communist party, because only God knows what they will do to your data. Sell it to terrorist groups for counterfeiting money[???]. Knowledge is power, data is power. So your privacy matters to you, but your data should matter too. Because once they know who you are and all the information about you, they can monetize it, they can use it against you. You know when I was little, I used to go outside and play. There were three TV channels when I was born, I was born before cable, B.C. Young people today have tremendous opportunity, but a lot of pressure. A lot of social pressure, a lot of bullying on the internet. It’s a different world out there today. And I’m very worried.

    The man is obviously losing it. Personally, I’d rather that a Chinese company have my data than an American one. I mean, if someone’s gonna have it, I’d rather it be a country that doesn’t claim dominion over my person, you know?

    1. The Rev Kev

      Maybe Lindsey Graham could go over to Joe Biden’s house and Joe could ‘Have the record player on at night.’

    2. Daryl

      My first thought on reading that Lindsey Graham called QAnon batshit crazy was…maybe I should look into this QAnon stuff more closely.

    3. Futility

      Thought the same. Also :”Because once they know who you are and all the information about you, they can monetize it, they can use it against you”
      Hm, doesn’t this apply to American internet companies as well? What’s he gonna do about that? Right, nothing.

  26. Wukchumni

    The skies above were fairly free of smoke, so took a 10 hour traipse mostly off-trail to the Mineral Lakes, Mosquito Lakes and Eagle Lake, with the highlight being a tarn on a ridgeline between the Minerals & Mosquitoes, which is really unusual in terms of placement, you just don’t find them there in the Sierra.

    Said tarn was previously about double the size of a swimming pool and 4-5 feet deep, but not yesterday. It had shrunk to 20 feet long and a foot deep.

    Signs of a pending drought (or a continuing one with some mega snowpack years in between) are all over the place, reliable springs going dry and everything living dying with it’s roots on much earlier than usual.

    1. chuck roast

      OK. Standard BS. He might have considered mentioning the policies that he supports. The reasons I never watch TV never change.

  27. Goyo Marquez

    Re: Looting

    After 3 months of non-stop protests the results are in, Black Lives Do Not Matter.

    Andrew Sullivan has decided, as have, it seems, most white people, that if the choice is between Black Lives Mattering and order, they choose order. It apparently doesn’t occur to them that the lack of order represented by police officers rioting against the law by brutalizing and killing and looting black lives is a much higher level of disorder than aggrieved citizens looting or burning a business.

    Pause over this for a few seconds, there are large segments of the United States who find the statement Black Lives Matter to be offensive. If you don’t believe that watch this:

      1. Pat

        Early on in NYC, a lot was organized theft. Now that I know there are shoplifting rings, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were behind this highly structured looting. They had the cars pull, people came out loaded with merchandise, they filled it up, and another pull up to be loaded as that one pulled away. My favorite posted video had the person exclaiming “that’s a** Rolls Royce!”

        A long with agitators and pyromaniacs and some just fed up, there could also be other criminals seeking a profit somehow even in these later continuing protests.

    1. flora

      That’s one f-u town.

      In other news, O helped end the NBA players’ boycott in solidarity with BLM. Sounds like he used a perfect triangulation kind of talk; you players can continue to make your point even if you play, so you should play. (And keep the money rolling in for the owners, TV sports channels, etc.) It’s all about the benjamins for those at the top. O is certainly at the top. I’m not talking about the players, I’m talking about the owners, city fathers, politicians, TV execs, cable channel execs, etc. Imo, a continued boycott would financially hurt a lot of stakeholders at the top. Can’t have that.

      1. flora

        From the news report:

        Obama had reportedly advised the players to continue to play and to use the opportunity to “contextualize action they want in order to play” according to The Athletic. On the call, the players and President Obama talked about establishing a social justice committee that Obama would be a part of.

        Contextualize the action they want in order to play. right… list your action demands then go play before any actions have been accomplished. right… Form a committee. right…. The players just gave away all their leverage in exchange for a future committee of some sort. right… Perfect O triangulation.

  28. urblintz

    trans-cows? do they require pre-op bull hormones?
    (sorry for the snark but…. just couldn’t resist)

    1. urblintz

      this was meant as a reply to lordkoos in the second thread above… I realize it makes no sense as a stand alone comment.

  29. Wukchumni

    The FBI warned for years that police are cozy with the far right. Is no one listening? Guardian

    Cops swing hard right as a rule of thumb, and a good many of them are drunk with power, what could possibly go wrong, er right?

    1. HotFlash

      Look, let’s say you are a person who likes to hurt/shoot things/people and/or otherwise demonstrate your superiority. If you become a criminal, the authorities may eventually find you and take you out, either literally or by way of courts and all that. If you sign up for the military, you can expect to be one of a small-ish group shooting at people, usually organized and trained, and possibly in larger groups, who will shoot back. If you sign up for the po-lice, you get to carry a gun, your opponents will be mostly untrained and unarmed people, and usually only one at a time. You will also have backup and whatever happens (as, for instance, someone gets shot in the back 7 times), you will mostly have the authorities on your side for the fallout. Also the pay is better and you can sleep in your own bed.

      No brainer!

  30. Maritimer

    “Moderna failed to disclose federal funding for vaccine patent applications, advocates say Stat (Dr. Kevin)”

    It is heartening to see that some Public Interest organizations are on the Big Pharma/vaccine job. Hopefully, these organizations can exchange information and ride herd on BP. One such organization is the Corporate Research Project
    where you can find Rap Sheets, both criminal and civil, for Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson&Johnson among others.

    For Moderna, insider trading story at:

    One of the most interesting facets of investigation would be the movement of scientists, execs, bureaucrats who were involved in many of the prior civil and criminal convictions of Big Pharma. Since it is only the corps prosecuted or sued, the humans are free to move about within the whole medical terrain. I would suspect there is a fast moving Revolving Door in this industry. Maybe even take lessons from the Catholic Church as to how to move the Perps about.

  31. Wukchumni

    It’s fascinating to watch the full court press by the right to make a double homicide in Kenosha, seem justified. One of the deceased said the holiest of holy words out loud (it’s perfectly fine for blacks to utter it though) and got what he deserved, being the gist.

    They really want us to degenerate into a mess of massed vigilantes, but why?

  32. The Rev Kev

    “FDA approves $5 rapid coronavirus test that doesn’t require special computer”

    Could you imagine what would happen if Trump came out and said that it was the best test in the history of the world and he uses it daily?

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