Is Your Pension Safe?

Yves here. Even though the precepts that Richard Murphy covers below are well-known to most readers, some things cannot be said often enough. The biggie here is that private savings, whether in the form of a defined contribution plan or simply putting money away for retirement, is an inadequate substitute for a national government defined benefit pension.

Defined contribution plan members are not only subject to market risk. They are also subject to the considerable grifting of the plan operators, from comparatively few investment options to ridiculous limits on moving funds from one fund to another (as in not just few windows allowed but also abuse of the float) to opaque and high fees, to fund managers too often successfully steering investors into lousy options, in particularly target date funds.

Keep in mind that in the US, even with an aging population, the stress on Social Security, even before getting to DOGE wrecking its formerly efficient and inexpensive customer service, is due to a long-standing political campaign to gut it or even worse privatize it. Recall that before Trump, the thick-with-bankers Democrats have been in front of this initiative. We have national heroine Monica Lewinsky to thank for derailing Clinton’s effort to “reform” Social Security. Obama’s Grand Bargain fortunately ran into the ground. At that time, Dean Baker, among others, stressed that only minor changes were needed to preserve Social Security’s trust fund, the main one being ending the income cap. And that’s before getting to the fact that a currency issuer can always fund spending; the constraint is whether total expenditures are excessive given real economy production capacity.

By Richard Murphy, Emeritus Professor of Accounting Practice at Sheffield University Management School and a director of Tax Research LLP. Originally published at Funding the Future

People assume pensions are “saved money” — a pot with their name on it, safely invested for the future. They aren’t.

In this video, I explain how UK pensions actually work, why defined contribution pensions are inherently risky, and why most pension money fuels speculation rather than real investment.

I look at the state pension, defined benefit schemes, and defined contribution pensions and explain who really benefits from the current system, why it is unjust, and why reform is now unavoidable.

This is not pension advice. It is a political economy explanation of why pension insecurity is being built into the system by design.

This is the audio version:

This is the transcript:


In response to a recent video I made in which I discussed the nature of savings, a lot of people ask the question:   “Is my pension safe?” And “Can I really depend on it in my old-age?” And I think those are really good questions at this moment because the question is what actually backs a pension? That is the issue I raised in the video in question, and this is a matter for this moment and not for later.

Many people believe that their  pensions are ‘saved money’. That there is a pot with a real asset somewhere with their name on it,   and even that paying National Insurance guarantees that you will have security in your old-age, but none of this is as simple as it sounds.

Let’s just stand back for a moment and talk about the three main types of pensions that exist in the UK at present, although there are variations on each, and I cannot possibly cover all the nuances.

The first type of pension is the state old-age pension, and even that comes in two forms.

Then there are defined benefit pensions, and I’ll explain what they are in a moment.

And finally, there are defined-contribution pensions, and there are plenty of varieties of those.

Each depends, though, on other people’s behaviour for their safety, and that is the critical point that I’m going to make in this video.

You cannot by yourself guarantee that you will ever get pension safety. All you can do is make the best possible choices and hope that others will deliver for you.

Let’s talk about that state old-age pension first. This matters to people. I know. I have one. I’m now old enough to claim this pension, and it has existed for over a century; that’s a surprise to most people. It was actually created before World War One, by a Liberal government. And the current full rates are  £9,175 a year, if you were born before 1951, and rather bizarrely, £11,973 if you were born later.   So, if you’re older, you get less pension, which to me makes no sense at all. But in either case, the point is clear;  this is well below the UK minimum wage. It’s going to be very hard   to survive by yourself on this income, and the provision for couples is, if anything, less generous still.

So there are real risks in simply thinking that the state old-age pension will provide for you, and there’s another risk as well, and that is that you are going to have to rely on the goodwill of politicians if this pension is going to continue to increase.  For the last 12 or more years, this pension has increased by the maximum of three things: that   has been wage growth in the previous year, inflation in the previous year, or 2.5%. That’s called the triple lock, and it has been the subject of a great deal of discussion over the last few years as austerity has really come home to bite.

So far, the triple lock has survived all attempts to cut it. But this inflation protection, which means that the state pension has, in fact, risen by a little more than the rate of inflation, is something where you are relying on government goodwill. That government goodwill could run out at any moment, and then your state old-age pension might not keep up with inflation. So, even this promise to pay is something that you cannot rely on, and just ask women over the age of 60 at present whether they can rely on the government’s promises with regard to pensions, and I think you’ll hear some very, very loud noises and comments.  The government is not a reliable pension provider on all occasions, albeit that for many, it’s absolutely critical to the way in which they survive in old-age.

Now, let’s talk about private pensions. And again, as I mentioned earlier, there are two types. The first is the defined benefit pension; the type that everyone would like to have, but only a very few people now enjoy.  It’s a promise to pay you in retirement, a proportion of your final salary from the time when you were in employment, of course, based upon the number of years of service you had.   You wouldn’t get a full pension for one year of work before you retired. The actual outcome was normally that you got around two-thirds of your final salary, presuming that you’d worked around 35 to 40 years for the employer, and so not many people got a full defined benefit pension, but for those who did, it was a great scheme.

These were once common. They were normal in big business as well as in government, but business, as I will note in a moment, has now retreated from them. They are now almost only found in the state sector:  the NHS, teachers, local government, and the civil service, plus the armed forces, all enjoy pensions of this sort.   Now, these are generally safe. They’re not entirely risk-free, and if you have a defined benefit pension from a private sector employer, that is definitely not risk-free because, of course, the employer could go bust and there might be funds owing to the pension fund at the time that they did so, and that can prejudice future payments as some people have found for their costs, albeit the government has set up a fund to try and help people in that situation. But the point is, this overall is a great pension arrangement, but fewer and fewer people are enjoying it.

So what are they getting instead? Well, because businesses realised how expensive defined benefit pensions were, they basically walked away from them. They’ve done so in this century. For the last 25 years or so,  employers have shifted away from this type of defined benefit pension to a defined contribution pension, and   the arrangement is fundamentally different.

You and your employer will be paying into a defined contribution pension scheme. Only you will be paying in if you’re self-employed, of course. And  that money will be invested on your behalf by a fund manager. There will be no guaranteed return. All the risk lies with you,   and this is the fundamental difference between a defined benefit pension scheme and a defined contribution benefit scheme.

In a defined benefit pension scheme, the risk rests with the employer. They’ve given a guarantee.

In a defined contribution scheme you are dependent upon the vagaries and fortunes of the market to deliver you an outcome you desire.  If there’s a market crash, just at the moment you are about to retire, your pension could crash with it, and that’s what’s important. You   have no recourse to your employer, or the pension manager, or anyone else. They will claim the decisions made were all by you, even though you will be remarkably uninformed to make them in many cases, because most people are not long-term pension managers.

There is a danger in this, and there’s an immediate danger at this moment. We know we are facing an AI bubble. We know that there is a risk of banking instability as a result. We know there’s a risk of a financial crisis; we’re already seeing the signs of this.  Gold is going through the roof in terms of value, and that’s always an indicator that a recession might be coming.   In this situation, defined contribution pension values could collapse, and the only mitigation is that you move your money to safer assets, but you would have to decide to do that.

But overall, the problem is actually one of what’s underneath these pensions, and you need to understand that to make that decision about whether you want to reallocate funds.

What do pensions actually invest in? They buy shares. They buy property. Almost always secondhand property; in other words, not new ones. They buy corporate bonds, and they buy government bonds.

Now, government bonds are usually good value investments, but they can change in value quite considerably depending on the way in which interest rates go, so even they are not guaranteed to give a return inside a defined contribution pension fund.

Shares create no new value in the economy, almost invariably. Why? Because shares are issued either as part of merger and acquisition activity. In other   words, one company buying another one, which does not create new value in terms of new jobs, usually it in fact destroys jobs, and it does not fund new investment.

I’ve already mentioned that  the properties that most pension funds buy are already in existence; therefore,   new jobs are not created.

And that’s also true of corporate bonds. Most of the bonds issued by large companies, the AI sector at the moment is an exception, but most of the bonds issued by large companies are put into issue to pay for corporate takeovers. There is very little investment funded by corporate bonds; some, but not much.

And the point about this is that these investments do not therefore fund real investment. They do not create value in the economy. They don’t create jobs. They don’t do anything in terms of productive investment.

And new shares are, anyway, incredibly rare now; they usually only represent the original owners of a company bringing their venture to market and then selling out, whilst corporate bonds are usually about mergers.

And even in the case of government bonds, they don’t fund anything either. And let’s be clear about this. In  the way in which the bonds that are issued at present are structured, they have no direct relationship with investment because   that is funded by the Bank of England through the creation of new money. That could be changed. Bonds could be used as a pot of capital to fund new investment, but that is not the way things are done at present. In other words, your pension fund is just a financial charade.

Pension funds are just a mechanism for financial speculation, and you are relying on this form of gambling.  Let’s not pretend it’s anything else. You are literally gambling your future by saving in a pension fund.

Values will only rise if more people join. That has been the perpetual story of pension funds. Our population in the UK has grown during my lifetime  from something in the 40 million to something in the high 60 million now. That has created   a continual stream of new entrants into pension funds. The consequence is, there’s always been more money flowing in, the money flowing out. This is a system that has been totally dependent upon that flow.

This, however, is not sustainable. There are two reasons why that is not going to continue. One is the fact that there is going to be a fall in the working-age population. We know that because of a change in demographics,  people in general in this country are getting older. The number of young people replacing these older people who are retiring is falling. There’s also, and let’s be clear about it; anti-immigration policy. That is also going to deny us the people we need to keep our pension system topped up.   In purely practical terms, that has a massive consequence; it means that the current values of shares can’t be sustained.

On top of this, there are other systemic problems. For example,  half of all young people are now heavily taxed, more than the previous generation were, because they effectively pay a 9% extra tax as a student loan surcharge.   They will therefore not be able to build up the large pension pots which were common in previous generations. And as a result, money flowing into pension schemes will again fall. What this means is that this model, which is dependent upon ever-increasing contributions, cannot survive.

So, is the pension system safe with regard to the state pension? Possibly. But it is inadequate.

With regard to defined benefit pensions? Probably, with caveats in the private sector.

With regard to defined contribution pensions? Clearly not. Despite the fact that the UK state spends more than £70 billion a year in tax subsidies to the pension industry,  we cannot say that the pensions of the majority of people in the UK who are subsidised by that system are actually safe or even worthwhile in the long term, and this is staggering.

This subsidy is also deeply unjust. More of it goes to the wealthy than anyone else, of course. Why? Because they put more into their pensions than anyone else. That’s glaringly obvious.  In fact, the top few per cent of income earners in the UK might well get a benefit of £10,000 a year from these pension subsidies,   way in excess of universal credit, by the way. That is because of the amount of subsidy they get in the way of income tax subsidies, National Insurance subsidies, corporation tax subsidies, and tax savings within the pension fund.

This whole system is indefensible. It’s about a benefit system for the wealthy, but it doesn’t provide pension security to most people. Instead, it just fuels speculation, and it enriches the City of London. The fact is that  these pension subsidies are being used to fund the profits of today’s pension funds, but not to guarantee the future of tomorrow’s retirees.

So, we need reform, and we need it very badly. If you want a safe pension, we have to change the pension system, and bizarrely, one way to do that is to end excessive tax relief for the wealthy. If we stopped subsidising those who do not need a subsidy to save, we could release more than £20 billion, at least, a year for other uses.

What would I do with that? I would simply reallocate it to the basic state pension. I would guarantee that the floor on which people rely is increased so that everybody has a more secure income in old-age. Dignity requires that.  We do not need to spend money the way we are now on a few; we need to spend it on everyone. And   this is about collective provision and not market fantasy. That is my second reform, therefore, improve the state pension.

The third reform is quite simple, and it is that  we need to make a new connection between pension fund contributions and productive investment. It   is absurd that this link has been broken. Economists still think it’s there. They still claim that savings fund investment. They don’t in the way in which the UK savings system works. There is no link between savings and training, and in education and infrastructure investment, or the creation of new technology, or just about anything else at present in the UK. So, we need to create that, and if 25% of all new pension contributions – just new ones – were allocated to investment in productive activity a year, something like £35 to £40 billion at least of pension money a year would be available for this purpose. Enough to fund a Green New Deal; enough to transform the future of our economy.

And lastly,  we need to make our pension funds accountable. I read recently   about pension funds being the biggest obstacle to leasehold reform in the UK. If you’re familiar with this issue, leasehold reform is essential because there are so many people who bought houses where the  ground rent on the property goes up steadily over time, and the service charges are running out of the capacity of people to pay them.   They’re being basically captured and exploited by corporate landlords who are making their lives a misery, and that supposedly is being driven by pension funds who do not want to give up this right to profit.

This is absurd. The very same people who pension funds are meant to be servicing with a product – a pension on which they can rely – are exploiting those same people to ensure that they cannot make a contribution. Pension funds must therefore be made accountable. We cannot have pension funds harming people today for paper gains tomorrow; that has to end.

Is your pension safe? No, not in the way it’s currently managed. Not at all. It’s being managed  for the benefit of the City of London, not you. It’s   not being managed with your well-being in mind. It’s not delivering the prosperity that you and your community want. It’s not providing investment for the benefit of those who will follow you, and who will look after you in old-age. It is fundamentally socially unjust, and that is politically indefensible.

Reform is needed now, but let me make one further last point, and this is not pension advice, it is just a suggestion that you need to think about where you are now. If you are worried about financial markets now, and I think there are good reasons to be worried about financial markets now – I’ve already mentioned them in this video – then you might want to go and ask your pension fund, your HR department, whoever it might be, or your personal pension advisor, whether there are safer options for savings available for you within your pension fund at this moment.

That is something you may want to do. I’m not saying you should do it. I’m saying you may want to do it. In these uncertain times, caution can be rational, and you need to explore that opportunity. The decision is yours, but if I were you, I would be doing it simply so you know what the options are. In an uncertain world and in a pension system which is frankly stacked against you in very many ways, trying to take as much control as you can makes sense, and at this moment it makes maximum sense. So have a think, go and take some action. Protect yourself.

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10 comments

  1. dandyandy

    All pensions anywhere in the world are a Ponzi – they work only for as long as there is more people pouring money in than taking it out.

    But here in UK we also have a scam Pension, “guaranteed by Government”. It called a SIPP (Self Invested Pension Plan). It is supposed to be regulated but in practice, it is actually not. It is “regulated” by an array of different Acts which enables sharp shooters like Hartley and Lifetime SIPP to exploit the gaps in legislations and lock money away, in hope and anticipation of contributors’ death.

    Various Ombudsmans (FOS, Pensions etc) all wash their hands away from this scam and say it it the other Ombudsman’s patch. Even the most expensive Solicitors hold their heads in their hands in desperation over the complexity of the thing. Once you sank your money into this, after fees and taxes, you will be lucky to see half of it back.

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  2. David

    A good article though I have a few points I’d like to add.

    It seemed obvious to me that following the introduction of mandatory workplace peniond in the UK following 2008, this was not to provide better pensions. It was to force workers money towards the stock market and other financial packages to keep them afloat.

    The public sector defined benefits pensions are well on the way to being destroyed. Most have been changed from final salary to average salary schemes. With forced movement of people from one to the other. This will eventually progress to them being abolished. And there has been a well funded and long running media campaign attacking public sector workers for being greedy for having a better pension system. As opposed to saying all people should have a better system.

    I’d argue that the tax benefits to wealthier contributors aren’t so much a benefit to those people as to the pension funds. To those that don’t know, your contributions are basically removed from your pay before you pay tax. So effectively that part of your pay is tax free. Though note that when you get your pension you will pay tax on the payouts if large enough.

    Now on the surface that seems like a benefit to the wealthier but their pension funds are at just as much risk as smaller ones. They are still invested in the same risky systems. The actual benefit is to the pension funds. They receive money that should be going to the state as tax.

    I know I won’t be able to live on my defined contribution. At best it might mine i can take a less stressful job until i die. Even that is unlikely. Most likely it will be lost before I take it. Perhaps by the government in some tax grab. Perhaps by incompetent fund managers. After all they have no real incentive to make sure i get a return. They make their money either way.

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  3. jefemt

    I took a tax and penalty hit to liquidate my 401K funds, and built what in auustro-hungary germania is called a ‘pension’– a little furnished vacation rental. It was one of two in our town before Al Gore invented the internet and VRBO and airbnb hatched.

    Now, there are literally hundreds, we have flipped to workforce housing, charging below-market rent.

    I added an asset, it was built free and clear, it has both appreciated in value, and generated significant income over a couple decades, and provided direct utility to many folks. As much as I can control anything, as Al Haig famously said, in a visibly quivering panic: ” I am In Charge”

    I built it in response to seeing Michael Eisner receive over $600 million in pay, bonus, and stock options in one year, while he was flying in a small jet several times a week to lunch in Aspen.
    No more grain from me to pack into the gullets of the fat geese in FIRE. Or the least as I can possibly tender that way. I opted out to the 300X executive pay paradigm that is equities.

    I remember our neighbor bringing home their second kid from the maternity ward— our oldest was heading off to college, and I said— man, start putting a thousand a month into the bank for each kid for college– it still won’t be enough ( this was hilarious based on our local wage base— but I was serious).

    The maths simply do not add up these days. Low-cost of living refuges are becoming scarce…

    We started to take delivery of Social Security a bit early, anticipating it will be diminished by 30 percent in four years– now likely in 2029. Glad we built the Guest House.

    The bicycles are in good working order, tires not weather checked and aired up. Guns lightly oiled and sitting idly by.

    Fentanyl futures part of ‘the hedge’?

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    1. Redolent

      300X executive pay paradigm that is equities

      touching memories of the ‘star wars’ junketers….pointedly ‘the empire strikes back’….with an initial budget of $8M….ending with cost overruns nearly 4X that amt.
      Never mind ….as the franchise bet on this one film took in >$400M

      ‘purportedly fans were conflicted about its darker themes’…..yet they came in droves

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  4. Sam Culotte

    For those managing their own retirement monies, I have only one word of advice: Beware of brokers or financial advisors recommending certain investments. Unless you are a preferred client (i.e. generating good commissions), those recommendations are almost certainly garbage. In other words, no upside for you, a generous commission for the broker.

    I speak from experience. I was dealing with a brokerage twenty years ago and all I was interested in was bonds. My broker invited me in for a chat. Sure enough, knowing me, he recommended some vanilla bonds. No problem there. But then he put in front of me a prospectus for a segregated fund offering a guaranteed 8% over 12 years. Long-term rates at that time were about 5%.

    Good deal, right? Nope. The fund only paid out for a few years, quickly lost half its value, and then disappeared from the listings. I learned later, after wisely declining, that the broker would have made a juicy 5% commission had I bought it.

    Caveat emptor. That goes double for the financial industry.

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  5. Marking Time

    Defined Benefit funds in private business are just about dead! Here, here I say. The only way for defined benefits to work is to be government backed. Why , because they are inherently risky due to the fact that no Investment managers have a crystal ball. I can’t believe that any exist in the 2020s as my experience from 50 years ago taught me they were a management rort.
    I should point out here that in Australia pensions are what is received from government the other types of pension are referred to as Superannuation. Which is now mandatory for everyone but it is all contribution based not defined benefit. Pensions are the backstop for people without enough funds (they are means tested by Income and Assets) and the liability for the government to provide them is reduced by the enforced superannuation, hence the Super fund contributions are tax advantageous (but of course to hopefully lessening degrees rorted by the wealthy).
    After finishing high school and being more interested in surfing than working my father (a senior rep for Australia’s largest insurance company) forced me to accept a job as a Superannuation Review Clerk for his company. Part of my role was to review the funds managed by my team. Most of them had 2 distinct classes of members. The defined benefit members were always management/executive and the contribution based were the rest of us plebs.
    Every 2-3 years Actuaries would analyse the performance of the funds, especially considering the capability to meet the funding required for defined benefit members, and make projections into the future for what would be required to meet those responsibilities. I was also able to review the previous Actuarial projections and what struck me most was that they were all incorrect! Every one of them. I asked my manager why we paid people lots of money to make incorrect predictions (at that time all Actuaries were part of the management/executive). He laughed and suggested that was above our pay grade. Admittedly I had no idea then as to how difficult making financial predictions was.
    Whenever there was a predicted shortfall funds would be moved into the defined benefit pool from the pool we plebs would feed from. I was flabbergasted!
    I don’t understand the comments from Richard Murphy and comments here that the only way to grow the fund is via new members (Ponzi style)?? Investing money does have returns and hence the pool grows as investing larger sums usually return more than just one person’s funds. As long as the fees are not excessive your share in the pool grows and the fees in our large funds are relatively transparent and you can change funds if you’re not happy.
    In October 1987 I worked in IT building Eurobond trading systems for (at that time) the UK’s largest merchant bank. I had a front seat view of how far the stock market can fall in a very short time. So I agree totally with Richard Murphy’s point that when we access retirement funds is crucial and can be shattering to many after a crash. I’m in that position now as the AI bubble and US financial aggression, stretches our financial systems into burst mode as I reach retirement but I will not be alone. I know my children still have decades before retirement and as such plenty of time for their superannuation funds to recover after the next crash comes.
    I think the mandatory Oz Superannuation requirement now at 12% is excessive (it started at 3%) especially for the young trying to save for a house deposit (maybe the rate could be staged) but I do believe it hopefully does relieve the government of a large portion of a long term liability and should enable the government to provide more funding for the pensions that will be required by the less fortunate (as a defined benefit). There does appear to be some slow progress in reducing the rorting of the system by the wealthy here and maybe the UK needs to have a good look at a long term systematic change as we are trying to do here.
    As an aside after a year (1976) as a Clerk I was offered the choice of an Actuarial traineeship or a Trainee IT Analyst, I went for the IT despite it definitely being more financial beneficial to become an Actuary. The thought of spending my life with accountants horrified me then but now I like accountants :-)

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  6. Revenant

    RIchard Murphy’s heart is in the right place on this topic but his head is not!

    If you look at capital gains, then yes, the fact that developed economies are accumulating pension assets in aggregate because of a growing young population can be argued to be, over time, a zero-sum game because once the population flips into aggregate draw-down, the market prices of the assets will fall.

    But holding shares is more than trading sardines. Any share worth holding should pay a dividend, a share of profits, the dividends in aggregate representing the value created by the economy by the application of energy by labour to land and commodities. The price to acquire this stream of a share of profits may be influenced by accumulation / draw-down but paid out profits have a real value.

    While it would be nice if capital was freshly subscribed to new ventures in exchange for new shares in order to drive growth, in practice established firms fund investment out of cashflow (before the dividends) and only borrow to time-shift or tax-optimise the investment funding. Holding shares buys exposure to the aggregate investment of firms in the economy.

    Holding private or government debt in pension portfolios does not change the picture, it alters the liquidity and solvency properties of firms and equity portfolios but, if it was forbidden, the ownership would be all equity and the source of value would still be the share of profits.

    Of course, a public pension is a much superior way to gain this exposure than a private one because the exposure of the state to aggregate profits (ify ou consider taxes as the state’s share of profits!) is universal and the state can buffer the risks of national economic growth (timing, recessions, distribution etc.) through public expenditure (and balancing taxation to withdraw money from the economy) in a way that no private portfolio can cost-effectively replicate. The ultimate insurance of private assets is the public purse. But the profits to be shared under either system are real, not illusory (and the possible risks of population decline are also real in either system) so one should focus the discussion on the efficiency and resilience of the public option.

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    1. Yves Smith Post author

      Equities cannot grow faster than the underlying economy forever. Trees cannot grow to the sky.

      We are seeing the destructive impact of our equities regime. Warren Buffett warned in the early 2000s that the profit share of GDP was unsustainably high at 6%. It has now been at close to 12% for many years in the US. The result is massive misallocation of capital (see AI) and rising inequality, which in turn is producing social divisions which in the US are hitting civil war levels. I am hearing shocking stories privately of communities tearing themselves apart over ICE.

      In addition, none other than the IMF has found that overly financialized economies have lower growth than less financialized ones, with Poland circa 2015 being the optimal level. So confirming my initial take, more equities dependence = slower growth = an economy LESS able to support an aged population.

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      1. Revenant

        Sorry, I should have been clearer because I think we’re saying similar things. I am talking about equity in the sectoral balance sense of a claim on residual profit, not the fund manager cult of equity. My starting point is also that prosperity can only grow for everybody in line with overall economic growth. That prosperity gain is distributed across different players (labour vs capital; demographics). Only the state has structural exposure to the whole gain, through taxes on labour and capital across the whole economy.

        Now, the managers of listed companies and private equity holdings can pull various levers to juice the return to specific equity capital (wage suppression, leverage, earnings manipulation, buybacks etc). So insisting on private pension provision via portfolio equity exposure places pensions at risk of managers’ behaviour and, as you say, cannot deliver growth in excess of whole economy growth sustainably. Only the state can collect the gains of prosperity from capital and labour and distribute them fairly and even out boom and bust over time.

        But Richard Murphy is wrong to imply that equity return to pensioners, in a share of national profits sense, comes exclusively by crowding-in pension investment to a restricted supply of equities and inducing capital gains. He us also wrong to imply that pension funds need to be for capural formation. The returns to also come through the payment of dividends, I.e. actual cash-flows rather than capital gains, and capital formation occurs through investment from cash-flow within firms. I am all for more investment in the economy generally so pension funds should ideally participate in new issues to fund investment but if they merely held shares in companies and the companies were investing, that would be enough.

        The problem with the status quo is managers juicing their stick value through buybacks and disinvestment (looting).

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