From ObamaCare to TrumpCare: On Policy

By Lambert Strether of Corrente.

Yesterday, we posted on the politics of “repairing” (Frank Luntz’s term) ObamaCare, and pointed out many possible repairs could undermine ObamaCare’s risk pool, creating coverage-crapifying insurance monopolies in many counties in key swing states, endangering Republican gains in 2018 and 2020. Slow-walking ObamaCare repairs would therefore make sense. Today, Trump did just that: “[M]aybe it’ll take til some time into next year.”[1]

In this post, I’m going to write about a — the? — transition from ObamaCare to TrumpCare from a policy perspective. (This will, of course, immediately (d)evolve back into politics.) First, I’ll look at two high level reasons why changing health care policy from ObamaCare anything else, one from social psychology, the other from the nature of ObamaCare itself. After that, I’ll look at a set of proposals for compromise floated by Bob Laszewski[2] of “Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review.” I’m going to ignore all the various Republican proposals (especially beardless wonder Paul Ryan’s 37-page PDF from his slick “A Better Way” website). The reason is simple: If any of these proposals were both sound policy and “politically feasible” — remember that phrase? — it would have been very easy for Republicans already to have coalesced behind one of them. But if that were going to happen, it would already have happened.

One reason changing from ObamaCare to Trumpcare is hard comes from social psychology: “loss aversion.” From John Goodman in Forbes:

The reason was explained by economist Robert Frank in the New York Times on Sunday. People view losses and gains asymmetrically. For example, you have to pay them twice as much to give up a coffee cup they possess as they would have paid for the cup in the first place. Even though the people who are benefiting from Obamacare probably didn’t vote for the people who gave it to them in the last few elections, they might well go vote against any politician who takes their benefit away.

According to Frank, “Research on loss aversion … suggests that the repeal would precipitate a political firestorm of epic proportions.” All serious Republican leaders seem to agree with him. Is Mitch McConnell going to vote to take health insurance away from the 231,000 Kentuckians who are newly insured under Obamacare? He has already said he will not. Other Republican leaders have said much the same thing.

So, what’s the answer to this problem? Any serious reform will have to grandfather people. Republicans are going to have to make the same promise President Obama made: If you like your plan you can keep it. Yet, with only one exception, letting people keep Obamacare if they like it is not part of any Republican replacement plan.

To return to the political for a moment, all the Republican policy proposals are, therefore, a recipe for losing those all-important swing states in 2018 and 2020.

A second reason changing from ObamaCare to TrumpCare is hard is that ObamaCare is already a Republican plan. It’s unsurprising then, that even though Republicans have had eight years to come up with an policy alternative, they haven’t been able to. For those who came in late, here’s the history:

Gruber confirms:

Make no doubt. Romneycare was the model for Obamacare.

And Brad DeLong writes in 2010:

The conservative DNA of ObamaCare is hardly a secret. “The Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts plan,” Frum wrote. “It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican counter-proposals to ClintonCare in 1993-1994.”

Now let’s consider those Heritage “ideas,” because they ended up setting the boundaries for acceptable discourse in the policy debates that followed. In a 1989 Heritage Foundation brief, Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans, Heritage Foundation’s director of domestic policy strategies, Stuart M. Butler, Peter J. Ferrara (George Mason), Edmund F. Haislmaier (Heritage), and Terree P. Wasley (U.S. Chamber of Commerce) proposed the essence of ObamaCare: “[E]very resident of the U.S. must, by law, be enrolled in an adequate health care plan to cover major health care costs.” However, from the “political advantage” standpoint, the key goal of the Heritage plan was to fend off single payer. From the conclusion:

heritage

Ezra Klein confirms:

The mandate made its political début in a 1989 Heritage Foundation brief titled “Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans,” as a counterpoint to the single-payer system and the employer mandate, which were favored in Democratic circles.

So, reminding ourselves of Jeff Sessions’ strictures on “anything goes” post-modernism, we have Democrats (Obama + Gruber) adopting a Heritage-inspired plan pioneered by Republicans (Romney + Gruber), whereupon the Republicans turn around and fight their own plan tooth and nail, while the Democrats, fighting back furiously, never mention they adopted the Republican plan. However, we also find Democrats, Republicans, Heritage, and Gruber in simultaneous agreement that “single payer” is verboten, taboo, unmentionable, “off the table,” and not politically feasible. So all parties noisily and venomously seek “political advantage” at a level of mind-boggling illogic and contradiction, but the real policy conflict — the policy both parties and the political class seek to avoid — is buried, and never mentioned at all.

In other words, all the Republican policy changes can really do is tinker round the edges. ObamaCare was a (very successful) political ploy to head off single payer. Single payer is, of course, a “universal benefit,” Medicare for All. To make ObamaCare “politically feasible,” it to must be seen to be (if not be) universal. But a market-based solution can’t provide a universal benefit. And so we got kludges: Means-tested benefits for those who can’t afford to enter the market is one kludge. Means-tested subsidies plus a carefully rigged “marketplace” are another. The mandate is yet another. The “metals” (Bronze, Silver, Gold, and IIRC Platinum plans) are still another. And all the kludges add up to a ginormous and rickety Rube Goldberg device that randomly sends some people to HappyVille and some people to Pain City, and it’s not really a universal benefit at all. So the Republicans could replace one kludge (the mandate) with another (continuous coverage). Now, people hate the mandate — who wants to be forced to purchase a defective product? — so maybe continuous coverage would be better and more popular policy, but it’s got its own problems, and in any case a kludge is a kludge is a kludge. You can’t buff a turd, as they say.

With that, let’s turn to Bob Laszewski’s proposal for bipartisan compromise, from his Op-Ed at CNBC:

An Obamacare replacement Republicans and Democrats can agree on. Really.

Laszewski reasons from a political premise:

It is not a question of whether or not Republicans and Democrats will come to a compromise over replacing Obamacare.

Since it will take 60 Senate votes, and the Republicans only have 52 seats, there is no way we can get to a solution to the Obamacare conundrum without a bipartisan compromise.

I’m not sure Laszewski’s is correct, technically. For one thing, McConnell could deploy the nuclear option and abolish the filibuster mid-session. For another, without getting into detail on parliamentary procedure, ObamaCare’s replacement could be based through reconciliation with a bare majority, just as ObamaCare was. That said, politically, both seem unlikely: If the filibuster were to have been undone, it would already have been undone at the start of the session. Second, Trump has given the Republicans a free pass to punt on difficult issue, so they are likely to.

Still speaking politically, are Democrats really going to help Republicans get to a bipartisan compromise? Who are the Democrats who are going to do that? Some Democrat factions are calling for “all out war” with Trump (to be sure, it’s tit for tat with McConnell’s own successful strategy against Obama). Will the Sanders faction really choose “ACA minus” as their hill to die on, and what price will they extract should they do so? And so on. But let’s assume bipartisanhip and look at the market-driven kludges Laszewski proposes, which is based on the 2012 Wyden-Ryan Medicare Reform Proposal; Wyden is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, and Ryan is House Speaker. (I was going to bracket “[Danger Will Robinson! Danger!“] before Ryan, but that’s neither fair nor correct, is it?)

Let’s forget that Wyden and Ryan are proposing yet another of what is in essence a neoliberal medical experiment on the American people without their informed consent — very much in contrast to simple, rugged, and proven singler payer — and move through some of Laszewski’s policy proposals. Laszewski cleverly frames them all using a “For Republicans,” “For Democrats” parallel structure. (Given that ObamaCare is already a Republican plan, this is a fine example of “What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is negotiable.”)

First, “flexibility” for insurance companies:

For Republicans the ability for insurance companies to offer much more flexible plans so that the carriers can fashion plans that consumers want to buy. For Democrats, the requirement that health plans continue to offer the standard Silver Plan as at least one option and that insurers provide detailed comparisons between the standard Silver Plan and any other option the consumer chooses so that consumers know what they are buying.

Neoliberal claptrap. For Republicans: The assumption is that people want, and are able, to shop for health care (for which the purchase of health insurance is a proxy). That’s not true. For Democrats: The assumption is that the insurance companies won’t be able to game the system with the “detailed comparisons” they must provide. They have and will. Oddly, in both cases the fact that health insurance companies are profit-making parasites entities ignored. For Republicans, the concept seems to be that “plans consumers want to buy” is the driver, as opposed to profit (let alone plans that actually deliver benefits). For Democrats, the concept seems to be that insurance companies don’t profit by denying care, and hence have no incentive to game the system.

Second, “tax credits” for “consumers:”

For Republicans, enabling low-income consumers to be able to buy a low-cost plan plus a funded HSA for the value of their tax credits. For Democrats, the guarantee that low-income consumers could have a comprehensive insurance plan they could afford by being able to buy into Medicaid with the value of their tax credits, if the consumer decides the market plans available are not satisfactory.

For both Democrats and Republicans: First, tax credits won’t help many poor people because most of them don’t pay income taxes. (I’ve never heard of a tax credit working through the payroll tax). Second, think about it: I have health care decisions to make now, in part based on price (since the neoliberals have trapped us in a market). But I get a tax credit, in some unknown amount, at some point in the future. And if the tax credit is hard to calculate, I have to seek out a specialist. Such a deal!

Third, “Medicaid funding caps”:

For Republicans, establish federal Medicaid funding caps ultimately tied to inflation. For Democrats, phase in the caps over five years. Let the two approaches to Medicaid compete for ten years and then sunset Medicaid funding enabling the Congress to compare the two approaches and the states’ laboratory results for coverage and cost control before moving on.

For Republicans: Isn’t establishing a Medicaid cap blaming the victim? I understand the logic of forcing prices lower by the simple expedient of making it impossible to reimburse providers for products or services when the prices are “too high,” but what happens to the patients in the mean time? For Democrats, “Let the two approaches to Medicaid compete for ten years” is what I said it was: “a neoliberal medical experiments on the American people without their informed consent.” Rather than waiting ten years, wouldn’t it be simpler to send Ryan and Wyden on a junket to Toronto, have them ask around, and find out how Canadians like their single payer system?

Conclusion

There’s more on the Ryan-Wyden plan here, here, and here. It is true that Laszewski has dug up and dusted off a policy proposal that, in 2012, might have seemed feasible. The political atmosphere is very different today, not only because Republicans and Democrats have little incentive to compromise, but because the Sanders campaign put Medicare for All on the national agenda. Rather than conduct another decade — more than two Presidential terms! — of neoliberal experimentation on the body politic, wouldn’t it be better to advocate solutions known to work? And by giving Republicans cover not to “repair” ObamaCare, Trump also gave cover to Democrats to advocate for Medicare for All as the ultimate framework within which any “repair” must take place. Volatility creates opportunity!

NOTES

[1] It is, of course, possible that the entire Republican caucus will ignore the cover Trump just gave them, take the bit between their teeth, turn Ryan’s PDF into legislation, and pass it. Color me skeptical.

[2] Laszewski comes from the health insurance world, but so far as I can know, he doesn’t make stuff up. These days, that’s a real plus.

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About Lambert Strether

Readers, I have had a correspondent characterize my views as realistic cynical. Let me briefly explain them. I believe in universal programs that provide concrete material benefits, especially to the working class. Medicare for All is the prime example, but tuition-free college and a Post Office Bank also fall under this heading. So do a Jobs Guarantee and a Debt Jubilee. Clearly, neither liberal Democrats nor conservative Republicans can deliver on such programs, because the two are different flavors of neoliberalism (“Because markets”). I don’t much care about the “ism” that delivers the benefits, although whichever one does have to put common humanity first, as opposed to markets. Could be a second FDR saving capitalism, democratic socialism leashing and collaring it, or communism razing it. I don’t much care, as long as the benefits are delivered. To me, the key issue — and this is why Medicare for All is always first with me — is the tens of thousands of excess “deaths from despair,” as described by the Case-Deaton study, and other recent studies. That enormous body count makes Medicare for All, at the very least, a moral and strategic imperative. And that level of suffering and organic damage makes the concerns of identity politics — even the worthy fight to help the refugees Bush, Obama, and Clinton’s wars created — bright shiny objects by comparison. Hence my frustration with the news flow — currently in my view the swirling intersection of two, separate Shock Doctrine campaigns, one by the Administration, and the other by out-of-power liberals and their allies in the State and in the press — a news flow that constantly forces me to focus on matters that I regard as of secondary importance to the excess deaths. What kind of political economy is it that halts or even reverses the increases in life expectancy that civilized societies have achieved? I am also very hopeful that the continuing destruction of both party establishments will open the space for voices supporting programs similar to those I have listed; let’s call such voices “the left.” Volatility creates opportunity, especially if the Democrat establishment, which puts markets first and opposes all such programs, isn’t allowed to get back into the saddle. Eyes on the prize! I love the tactical level, and secretly love even the horse race, since I’ve been blogging about it daily for fourteen years, but everything I write has this perspective at the back of it.

36 comments

  1. HoarseWhisperer

    The one possibility which never gets talked about is that the Republicans can adopt a Medicare for all solution (under some other name). I realize that this is so far out on the probability curve as to be considered fantastical. But hey – Trump is president.

    If the Republicans manage to overcome the ideology that requires a market-uber-alles approach, this will be their FDR moment. I may not live to see another Democrat in the White House.

    1. PKMKII

      The one possibility which never gets talked about is that the Republicans can adopt a Medicare for all solution (under some other name).

      Maybe instead of Medicare for All, they call it “VA for All.” This ain’t no wussy socialized medicine, this is manly man, camo-print-covered military healthcare for all!

      1. Loblolly

        This is actually a theory I’ve been holding. Reform the VA with single payer and dump the VA hospitals to get them out of providing medical services.

        Could be awesome, could be a terrible disaster. I’m interested to see what happens.

      2. Jack

        A single payer system modeled on the VA would be a good idea. The VA works. Oh yes, they have some problems, and some particularly bad hospitals, but overall the VA system does a very good job. In fact, the VA has been rated number one in outcomes consistently even over some of the best hospital systems in the US (Kaiser, John Hopkins, Mayo Clinic). And the VA delivers care a LOT cheaper than the private system and even cheaper than Medicare. The VA does that because it uses a centralized computer system for ALL medical records (no paper whatsoever), negotiates for drug pricing, has standardized preventative care, and numerous wellness programs. Plus, it has a messaging system whereby a patient can contact their provider (doctor, nurse, pharmacy, specialist, whatever) directly and expect to receive a reply if not same day then within 24 hours.

    2. fritter

      We had the same *crazy* idea. Split the majority of profits of the health insurance industry between pharma and hospitals would probably give you buy in from most of the field. Major strides for either jobs or medical care will probably keep Democrats out of power for the next 50 years. They have too much invested in the status quo to change. Its the republicans to lose I think.

    3. reslez

      I’ve proposed this as well. But it currently appears that Republicans/Trump are too dumb to see the opportunity, too blinkered by their donor-sponsored ideology-of-convenience. So we’ll get to watch them flounder around for another 15 months blaming Obama for a disaster they’ll only make worse.

      Sometimes Occam’s razor applies. They really are that stupid.

    4. Oregoncharles

      Again: Trump publicly supported single payer before he ran for the Republican nomination, and might come back to it. He’s also committed himself to a “universal” solution. there’s only one of those.

      The bigger obstacle is Congress. Even most of the Dems are against it, despite their rhetoric, as 2009 proved.

    5. WILLIAM VELICK

      I have believed that the Repub’s have voted against any Democrat health plan because they want it to be their own. They are not constrained by orthodoxy or free market neoliberalism. Witness Bush the Younger’s Part D. See “we gave it to you”, not FDR, not LBJ. So don’t be surprised if the Repub’s find a rationale to create a neoliberal Medicare for all. It is entirely within their governing philosophy. Which is to say, they have no consistent governing philosophy, only crass manipulation of the masses, any subterfuge to stay in control. Believe it. Bernie Sanders has taught them a thing or two already.

  2. Lyle James

    It’s interesting to note that Canada’s federal Health Care Act of 1966 was in response to single-payer health care programs that began at the provincial level. It other words, it was a bottom-up revolution. I’m beginning to suspect that’s the only way single-payer will become a reality (if ever) in the US. The medical lobby and Big Pharma simply seem to have too great a hammerlock on the US Congress.

    1. Pirmann

      the only way single payer will become a reality

      I think single payer needs to stop being marketed to only those who are without insurance, and refocused toward corporations and those who are on company sponsored plans (which is the overwhelming majority of the population).

      Do you think corporations are not tired of paying for increasing health insurance costs? It affects the bottom line, and therefore stock prices. And are individuals not also tired of paying ever more for a crappier product?

      Sell single payer to the masses, in a win win sort of fashion, and maybe it becomes a reality. If enough big corporations get behind it, it becomes palatable to Republican representatives.

      I’d like to see Bernie sell this in tomorrow’s debate. Alas, I think he’ll instead try to talk up 0bamacare, which will make me become nauseated.

      1. Portia

        not to mention the HR costs to administer. As a former HR admin, the ever-changing aspects eat up a lot of hours

      2. Jason Boxman

        I always wonder that myself. Talk about a huge competitive disadvantage relative to the rest of the industrialized world.

      3. Pirmann

        Well, as it turns out, Bernie has actually done quite well in tonight’s CNN health care debate. He’s banged the single payer, Medicare for All drum all evening, and to (in my opinion) good effect.

        I was wrong. Better, based on what I’m seeing in this debate, it looks like pre-sychophant Bernie might be back. Now, if he’ll work with Trump to find common ground…

    2. Arizona Slim

      Exactly. The Canadian-style single payer system that is so admired in this country got its start in Saskatchewan while Tommy Douglas was the Premier.

      Even today, Douglas is still considered to be the greatest Canadian ever. And, yes, he even beat out Wayne Gretzky in a nationwide CBC poll.

      1. Waking Up

        In 2011, another Douglas, actor Michael Douglas was on a visit to Montreal where “a doctor at Montreal’s Jewish General Hospital detected the disease that had eluded specialists in the United States. In gratitude, the Oscar winner agreed to add a new role to his résumé: fundraising draw for Canadian medical research.”

        But wait, aren’t we always told how superior our system is in the U.S. compared to Canada?

      2. JEHR

        Yes, isn’t that great–to have a politician as the greatest Canadian! But, of course, he was more than just a politician: he truly had the welfare of all the people as his main concern–a kind and gentle man.

    3. heresy101

      20 some odd years ago, we (assorted radicals but mainly the California Nurses Association) put a single payer referendum on the ballot and only got about 28% (if memory serves) of the vote. Today, with the demise of the hated Obamacare, I’m hoping the nurses will take the reins again. This time, I’m confident that California will be the US Saskatchewan and we will win; all we need is our Tommy Douglas to get the ball rolling!

  3. fritter

    Interesting discussion. Here’s one along those lines, what if Trump implements medicare-for-all instead of insert random-benevolent-democrat. I know there isn’t much will there (for health care specifically only to be remembered in the history books sure ), but think about what would happen if he did.
    The first thought experiment is, would it work could it be implemented before his first term finished. I think so, we already have medicare. When medicare is the only option, every doctor will take it. They would probably be as financially well off as they are now. There will be lots of push back, but industries that get left behind don’t do much lobbying. They’ll be forced to spend their money now, or find new growth areas. The rest of the health care industry will probably benefit. Business will see the cost benefits to at least some extent. They would probably be willing to sacrifice the health insurance business for reduced regulations and outsized profits for everyone else.

    Then the ramifications.
    – no more democrats, no more republicans, only one party and its all Trump all the time
    – no way he only has 2 terms in office

    One benefit of having a lower LE than Bangladesh is that desperate people don’t mind the shock doctrine if it improves their circumstances enough. I think the biggest challenge to all progressive policies will be how far Trump chooses to go. Even Bernie can only react and only Trump could push it through. For FDR it was jobs, now maybe its healthcare. Would the baby boomers rather have work until their 80’s or free medical care, and a chance to pass some of their wealth along. If the “liberals” lose any of their “progressive agenda” that’s pretty much all she wrote. A full belly will be enough to turn Trumps negatives completely around. I suspect Trump will go for smaller scale changes that are reasonably easy to pull off, but it does tickle the imagination.
    For the record I dislike both parties, I do like some irony though. This election cycle was full of it.

    1. Lee

      Had the same problem. I’ll place here the comment I intended for Water Cooler.

      “Democrats Are Desperate for Bernie Sanders’ Email List” [Mother Jones]. Hilarity ensues.

      Sell the Sanders list to the DNC for $27 dollars a pop and misspell the names.

  4. theotherWA

    This is a reply to HoarseWhisperer

    I am amazed that the Republicans haven’t figured this out–if they pull off medicare for all, the Democrats are finished.

    1. aab

      The problem is that the Democratic Party is already finished. So the Republicans have no incentive to do something most of them have been indoctrinated not to want, or whose salary depends on not wanting it.

  5. Steve

    I was laid off in the summer of 2015 from designing circuits (EE). We were allowed to continue on COBRA for 18 months. This seemed the simplest, expecting to find work. 18 months later I still do not have a full time job, but it turns out I was allowed to continue my insurance since the company I had worked for was in California (I’m in Maine). CalCOBRA allows another 18 months.

    Given the longer term of my job search, I compared to several plans under Obamacare (in November). I found the results surprising (I’m naive). Any Obamacare plan with similar deductible costs $500-600 per month more (i.e. gold plans). Our current plan (family of 3) costs $2k and has a $2.6k family deductible. Certainly not cheap, but OC plans at a similar price have deductibles of $3.4k to $4.5k (family).

    Our existing plan has gone up about 10% per year. We’re staying with it until it runs out or full time work happens. I do finally have contract work coming up, likely a substantial amount, just no benefits.

    1. Jason Boxman

      That doesn’t surprise me. My father has done small business <=50 employee group insurance for much of his career as an independent insurance agent. The group plans, though expensive, usually have a superior benefit for the price relative to an individual plan. The issue that comes up is, if you need to use COBRA, the group plan benefits are quite expensive if you're paying 100% of it yourself. And it's after tax money you're using! (Maybe this is subject to a deduction based on the amount relative to your AGI, but I've never been on COBRA for long enough for it to make sense to itemize deductions.)

      We truly have a thoroughly stupid system for enabling citizens to obtain health care.

  6. marym

    Though Trump has used the term single payer, talked about drug price negotiation*, and said people should have access to health care, has he ever shown any interest by words, actions, or appointments, in publicly funded, highly regulated, publicly accessible, cost-free at the point of service health care or anything else?

    * which, after meeting with drug execs and lobbyists last week he seems to have replaced with tax breaks and deregulation (that tried and true method of reducing prices and serving the public interest/s).

    1. Jason

      I’ve noticed a lot of the media recently saying that Trump is doing exactly what he said he’d do (for better or for worse). I totally don’t believe it, and this is my favourite instance of the many things he isn’t doing. Of course he isn’t reducing drug prices.

  7. jerry

    It does seem possible (most things seem possible with trump, however good or bad) that single-payer could happen.

    It’s also possible to make our current model competitive and lower priced by – as he mentions – drug price negotiation, no state barriers, etc.

    The problem isn’t so much that a private healthcare system couldn’t work, it is just damn near impossible when you have a government as un-democratic as ours. There is no competition because the markets in each state are monopolized or oligopolized (both on the provider side and the insurer side). So, combine a few major hospital networks with one or two possible insurers per state and a pay-to-play legislative process and voila, you’ve got the US healthcare system.. primed to drive up prices and remove competition.

    Medicare works pretty well – keeping in mind that it takes care of the sickest segment of the population – and it still has to negotiate based off of current private market prices. Imagine what a network of lean, competitive insurers could do if they had actual bargaining power with a competitive network of hospitals and other providers.

  8. Disturbed Voter

    Both parties are captives .. don’t expect either to escape the gold handcuff they put themselves in.

    Alexander had the right attitude to legislation … cut the damn Gordian knot, don’t try to untangle it.

  9. Demented Chimp

    I sent an email to Trump on Medicare for all as below:.

    Suggest everyone else do likewise and spread the thought through the various channels. If enough send it may float past his eyes long enough to capture his attention.

    Only Trump could……. give Medicare for all. Treat everyone as a patriot veteran!

    Scaleable system, leverage to cut costs and create a loyal base.
    Give the insurance industries profits to Hospitals and Pharma to get their buy in.

    Take the leap. Make America Great!

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/02/links-2617.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_goes_to_China

  10. Lyle

    Note that there exist refundable tax credits where the refund the Earned income tax credit is one. One might assume that any tax credit here would be refundable. Basically it assumes that the tax credit is paid in and so can be refunded. So the issue of folks who owe no taxes might not be an issue depending on how the credit is structured.

  11. Oregoncharles

    Ron Wyden, one of my Senators. Sigh. Both my wife and I have tried to pin him down in Town Halls on his opposition to Single Payer. He likes to boast about his “own” plan, which I didn’t realize was co-authored with RYAN. I’ll remember that. Anyway, his arrogance was palpable. He claimed Americans were “not ready” for Medicare-for-all, despite the polls showing supermajority support.

    By coincidence, another relative encountered him when she was waitressing – in quite a fancy place. She was furious; again, the arrogance was palpable. The way we treat wait staff is unintentionally revealing of our character.

    In short: Wyden is a slimy character. But the Republicans are so weak here that they can’t find a decent opponent, and he’s deeply entrenched in the Democratic Party.

    1. heresy101

      The last Democrat that I voted for was Wayne Morse. It sounds like that Wyden is a slime ball in the mold of the Bob Packwood who defeated Morse after his 6th term and in his 70’s.

  12. Harold

    Everyone who interacts with any of these people in any way, ought to put them in the hot seat about why they don’t support single payer/expanded Medicaid. They should be picketed heckled, you name it.

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