It’s revealing, and not in a good way, when those who try to wrap themselves in the mantle of peace, here calling for violent change of a democratically elected government in Iran1 via “peaceful protests.”, show their considerable hatred, and pronto too.
The issue at hand was a media campaign to promote rallies held in multiple cities on February 14 by the Iranian diaspora calling for changes in Iran which would necessitate the removal of the current government. In case you doubt the aim, the son of the former Shah, Reza Pahlavi, held up as the potential leader of a new government in Iran, was the moving force behind these demonstrations and spoke at the one in Munich.
I am publicizing an exchange over my request to stop being spammed with one of the promoters of this effort, as authorized by the sender Brett Raad,2 to show the abject hypocrisy of Iran regime change advocates and their inability to defend their cause. Any representative who behaves this badly deserves to be called out.
One might wonder why I bother responding spam messages to ask simply to stop being spammed. In fact, yours truly gets tons of spam, from phishing messages to bizarre e-mails asking for price quotes and specs on services totally remote from anything we have ever done, to pitches for various business services like payroll services, to various forms of PR, including political activism. Some of the latter two categories are not spam under the US CAN-SPAM Act by virtue of having the required address of the sender and an unsubscribe link.
Interestingly, the most professional unsolicited messages, which are also the ones that are once in a while useful (from publicists on a topic of interest) just about always have an unsubscribe option and I happily unsubscribe. For the rest in the latter two categories, when I have time (as on only occasionally) and it looks as if the message came from a bona fide address, I send various types of “go away” replies, using a finely gradated hierarchy of tartness based on how lame the e-mail was.3
In this case, the form of this intended media outreach was off the charts amateur hour and counterproductive in other ways. One thing that set my teeth on edge was the way the promoters repeatedly exposed the e-mail addresses of all the recipients.4 The lists clearly overlapped heavily, given the ADHD level of frequency with which I got them.5
There were five different message types even then with high commonality of text, from 20 different names and e-mail addresses.6 But even with a type, some had typos others corrected; there were also variations in formatting for messages of common content.
7 out of 10 Americans already oppose US military action in Iran over the protest crackdown in early January. Persistent rudeness to lowly general media organization inbox managers and more senior writers by larding up their inboxes with repetitive messages is going to turn them off. And that is before getting to other clown-show elements, like sending messages soliciting coverage of the rallies after they had occurred, or asking for media attention to them after the fact, but still containing text asking for reporters to attend.
In other words, if these organizers/promoters thought their cause was important, their lack of professionalism, discourtesy, and disorganization said the reverse.
Now to the back and forth:
From: Yves Smith
Subject: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 1:15:12 PM
To: Brett RaadYour message makes multiple violation of the CAN-SPAM Act, ,which provides for fines up up to $16,000 per e-mail per recipient.
In addition, it is highly unprofessional via exposing the e-mail addresses of recipients.
From: Brett Raad
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 1:26:39 PM
To: Yves SmithCome eat me 🍆
From: Yves Smith
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 2:30:41 PM
To: Brett RaadOh, you want me to publicize that this is how Iran regime change publicists operate, that you are regulation breakers, rank amateurs and assholes? What a good look.
From: Brett Raad
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 2:45:54 PM
To: Yves SmithI don’t give the slightest fuck about you or anything you stand for, you worthless bitch. You’re clearly one of those Ayatollah-loving, Hamas-supporting pieces of trash — typical shitty liberal. Fuck off, and tell your buddies to do the same.
From: Yves Smith
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 2:49:00 PM
To: Brett RaadI will publish your messages.
You don’t care at all about Iranians. You are either a fool or a Zionist. As we have seen in Iraq and Syria and now in Cuba, regime change operations immiserate citizens on a mass scale and benefit only the US hegemony and arms markers.
From: Brett Raad
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 3:03:59 PM
To: Yves SmithThen Publish this one too, I got a nice one specific to your current situation: Fuck you, you stupid fucking cunt motherfucker—choke on a dick and die.
From: Yves Smith
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 3:07:26 PM
To: Brett RaadYou don’t even pretend to have a rational case for your Iran regime change support. Your hysterical response is proof you have no reasoned basis for your PR.
From: Brett Raad
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 3:15:28 PM
To: Yves SmithThis convo’s getting old real quick. I’m sleepy and you’re not worth staying up for. Find someone else to hit on—I’m out of your league.
From: Yves Smith
Subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING ME
Date: February 14, 2026 at 3:18:48 PM
To: Brett RaadOh, I was enjoying seeing you continue to issue unhinged and self-sabotaging messages.
I am sure my readers will too.
Mind you, these promoters not only have no concern about the well-being of Iranians, but they also do not appear to have considered that a US or Israeli regime change campaign now has the high odds of setting off a superpower conflict.
Needless to say, I am not giving abusers free PR by posting the body of these messages, or a representative one. But in keeping with the amateurism of their process, so too was the body of these messages sorely wanting. The senders seemed to assume that all they had to do was effectively say “Iran regime bad,” “human rights abuses.” “harm to protestors, women, doctors” and that would be taken as gospel. The normal practice with this sort of campaign is to cite authoritative-seeming news stories, organizations, and/or experts. But it is not as if the Reza Pahlevi is a paragon of virtue:
The US press will almost never mention the salient fact that Reza Pahlevi's security forces, the SAVAK – trained by the US, UK & Israel – tortured many people, including current Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei!
Imagine Trump had been tortured by Iran!
Details at link 👇 pic.twitter.com/BnQngbDZ7L
— Jeffrey Kaye (@jeff_kaye) January 12, 2026
The e-mails also tried to argue for the importance of Doing Something to “Western security interests”. It repeated the trope that Larry Johnson has repeatedly debunked, and apparently has to keep debunking. From his post today, The Big Lie About Iran’s Support for Terrorism (emphasis original):
US policymakers, particularly under the current Trump administration (as of February 2026), consistently describe Iran as the world’s leading or foremost state sponsor of terrorism. This characterization has been a cornerstone of U.S. policy toward Iran for decades, with Iran designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism by the U.S. State Department since January 19, 1984—the longest-standing designation on the current list (which also includes Cuba, North Korea, and Syria).
But what does the data actually show? My old office — i.e., the Coordinator for Counter Terrorism, which is now known as the Bureau of Counter Terrorism — has published an annual report on international terrorism since 1990 that was titled, Patterns of Global Terrorism… The 1990 report, which was mandated by Congress, covered incidents for 1989. Patterns of Global Terrorism was replaced by a new title, Country Reports on Terrorism… That annual report covers every year from 2004 thru 2024 (note: the 2025 report is due in April 2026).
Although the State Department’s Statistical Annexes do not provide a specific sectarian breakdown (Sunni vs. Shia vs. other) of terrorist attacks, the overwhelming dominance of Sunni extremist groups in the perpetrator data suggests that roughly 90% or more of identified terrorist attacks between 2004-2023 were carried out by groups or individuals with ties to Sunni extremist ideologies, particularly Salafi jihadism. Based on the available data from 2004-2023, approximately 85-95% of terrorist attacks in the State Department reports were carried out by Sunni extremist groups or individuals. The top perpetrator groups each year (Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, al-Qaeda affiliates, al-Shabaab, TTP, etc.) were all Sunni. In other words, these are groups with no affiliation or support from Iran. In fact, these groups view Shias, not just Iran, as heretics and target them.
Shia groups like Hezbollah and Iran-backed militias are typically not included in these statistics as they primarily target military forces (which may be excluded under the definition of terrorism used). The Houthi movement (Ansar Allah) in Yemen is the main Shia-affiliated group appearing in recent reports, but represents a small fraction of total attacks.
A French think tank — FONDAPOL — reports similar results, only their timeline covers 1979 thru 2024. From 1979 to April 2024, the top 5 deadliest groups were responsible for 81.8% of all Islamist terrorist attack victims:
Al-Qaeda (14,856 deaths) – Sunni
Taliban (71,965 deaths) – Sunni
Islamic State/ISIS (69,641 deaths) – Sunni
Boko Haram (26,081 deaths) – Sunni
Al-Shabaab (21,784 deaths) – Sunni
Despite these facts, Israel persists in pushing the lie that Iran represents the major threat of terrorism. I addressed that lie in my piece published almost two years ago using the data posted by the Israeli Foreign Ministry
Johnson continues by presenting a great deal of additional data, which I encourage you to review. But this extract alone should make the point.
The other main geopolitical argument was that Iran was destabilizing the Middle East, this after the US campaigns that created destabilizing failed states in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and is backing Israel in wrecking Lebanon. Even oil-rich states that have strong economic interests to align with the US and Israel now recognize that even they are at risk.
A new YouTube discussion between Daniel Davis and Trita Parsi of Responsible Statecraft covers Why Arab States Now See Israel — not Iran — as the Region’s Primary Destabilizer. And American Conservative in a new article, Who’s Afraid of an Iranian Refugee Crisis?. points out that a regime change in Iran would produce yet more chaos via mass exodus.
I could say a lot more, but this group and its mission does not deserve more attention.
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1 Chas Freeman, the former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, has argued that Iran has a directed democracy, in which certain topics are outside public discussion and influence, and that’s not very different to the way the US operates. So these lines are not as tidy as those in the Anglosphere would have you believe.
2 I assume not a real name but even if so, he asked to have the exchange posted.
3 In addition to calling out my big pet peeve, the CAN SPAM Act violations by US senders, I will add when applicable descriptions of other ways in which the message is unprofessional.
Yes, one can question the merits of this practice. However, I believe in altruistic punishment, a behavior found in all social species. From Nature:
Human cooperation is an evolutionary puzzle. Unlike other creatures, people frequently cooperate with genetically unrelated strangers, often in large groups, with people they will never meet again, and when reputation gains are small or absent. These patterns of cooperation cannot be explained by the nepotistic motives associated with the evolutionary theory of kin selection and the selfish motives associated with signalling theory or the theory of reciprocal altruism. Here we show experimentally that the altruistic punishment of defectors is a key motive for the explanation of cooperation. Altruistic punishment means that individuals punish, although the punishment is costly for them and yields no material gain. We show that cooperation flourishes if altruistic punishment is possible, and breaks down if it is ruled out. The evidence indicates that negative emotions towards defectors are the proximate mechanism behind altruistic punishment.
4 The addresses were a mix of general inboxes for media organizations plus those of individuals. One list had 212 names. One had 209. One had 192. The one sent most often had 189. One had 78. One had 79, one 78, and one, 68. After my criticism of this abuse, a very few stared using a BCC for recipients.
To illustrate, taken from the exchange under discussion:
To: “assignment@cnn.com”
, “tips@foxnews.com” , “tips@msnbc.com” , “newstips@latimes.com” , “apnewsroom@ap.org” , “tips@reuters.com” , “tips@abc7.com” , “tips@nbclosangeles.com” , “newsdesk@cbsla.com” , “newsdesk@aljazeera.net” , “dnmetro@dailynews.com” , “fox11news@fox.com” , “kcbstvassignmentdesk@cbs.com” , “knbc.desk@nbcuni.com” , “ktla@ktla.com” , “letters@nytimes.com” , “lockbox@washpost.com” , “MediaRelations@thomsonreuters.com” , “newsmanager@foxnews.com” , “pr@abc7.com” , “themail@newyorker.com” , “tips@laist.com” , “tips@latimes.com” , “viewermail@newshour.org” , “kerr@freebeacon.com” , “info@freepressunlimited.org” , “denny@frontlinesoffreedom.com” , “newstips@ft.com” , “fnorton@gannett.com” , “daniel.byman@georgetown.edu” , “Press@globalhumanrights.org” , “davidbryant@gvtc.com” , “James.Carafano@heritage.org” , “ruthking@hersport.ie” , “crid21@hotmail.com” , “Press@hrf.org” , “media@hrf.org” , “ruthking@hvacchannel.tv” , “ian@ighaworth.com” , “gbishop@ilnews.org” , “newsdesk@independent.co.uk” , “editor@independentnews.com” , “Hello@insider.com” , “jepstein@insider.com” , “rpickrell@insider.com” , “bama@iranintl.com” , “Information@jhr.ca” , “ymounk@jhu.edu” , “jtobin@jns.org” , “media@jordanbpeterson.com” , “JVM@josephvmicallef.com” , “nballasy@justthenews.com” , “KV@kelleyvlahos.com” , “uReport@kgo-tv.com” , “4listens@kron4.com” <4listens@kron4.com>, “Lora.victorio@latimes.com” , “readers.representative@latimes.com” , “servicepresse@lefigaro.fr” , “courrier-des-lecteurs@lemonde.fr” , “lincoln@lincolnmitchell.com” , “sidhkishore@live.com” , “sean.walsh@mailonline.com” , “mark.toth@manpowergroup.com” , “Blake.Stilwell@military.com” , “jared.keller@military.com” , “rebecca.kheel@military.com” , “zach.biggs@military.com” , “davis.winkie@militarytimes.com” , “jonathan.lehrfeld@militarytimes.com” , “lshane@militarytimes.com” , “nikki.wentling@militarytimes.com” , “mirrornews@mirror.co.uk” , “rwmcmaken@mises.org” , “kathleenc@moaa.org” , “tonyl@moaa.org” , “Heather.Sweeney@monster.com” , “Travis.Tritten@monster.com” , “jheilbrunn@nationalinterest.org” , “cnbctips@nbcuni.com” , “Contact.nbcnews@nbcuni.com” , “MSNBCTVinfo@nbcuni.com” , “NBCNewsMediaRelations@nbcuni.com” , “wnbc.viewermail@nbcuni.com” , “Daniel.DeLuce@nbcuni.com” , “seema.mody@nbcuni.com” , “steve.benen@nbcuni.com” , “courtney.kube@nbcuni.com” , “adam.stone@newsroom42.com” , “a.stanton@newsweek.com” , “nick@nickballasy.com” , “mediarelations@npr.org” , “arascoe@npr.org” , “mkelemen@npr.org” , “info@nuj.org.uk” , “peter@nyc-techwriters.com” , “Tips@nypost.com” , “inytletters@nytimes.com” , “national@nytimes.com” , “nytnews@nytimes.com” , “david.philipps@nytimes.com” , “observer.letters@observer.co.uk” , “dan.taylor@opensysmedia.com” , “john.mchale@opensysmedia.com” , “lisa.daigle@opensysmedia.com” , “slarsen@owh.com” , “copy@pa.media” , “newseditors@pa.media” , “dgrazier@pogo.org” , “mthompson@pogo.org” , “goddard@politicalwire.com” , “jlemire@politico.com” , “josh.self@politics.co.uk” , “rcooper@prospect.org” , “support@radionewshub.com” , “nduran@raps.org” , “tom@realclearpolitics.com” , “howard.altman@recurrent.io” , “david.brunnstrom@reuters.com” , “assistance@rsf.org” , “assistance2@rsf.org” , “secretariat@rsf.org” , “zboissel@rsf.org” , “clegoff@rsf.org” , “egarcia@rsf.org” , “connor@scotthorton.org” , “david@siliconangle.com” , “news.plan@sky.uk” , “news@skynews.com” , “joe.tabet@skynewsarabia.com” , “dmaxwell@smallwarsjournal.com” , “news@smh.com.au” , “kknodell@staradvertiser.com” , “eashford@stimson.org” , “dickstein.corey@stripes.com” , “lederer.max@stripes.com” , “david@strom.com” , “letters@sunday-times.co.uk” , “mariana@taborcommunications.com” , “dtnews@telegraph.co.uk” , “dtletters@telegraph.co.uk” , “telegraphenquiries@telegraph.co.uk” , “abour@tf1.fr” , “cdias@tf1.fr” , “bdevlin@theamericanconservative.com” , “caleb@theassemblyeagle.com” , “letters@theatlantic.com” , “letters@theaustralian.com.au” , “Jonah@thedispatch.com” , “emma.graham-harrison@theguardian.com” , “international@theguardian.com” , “national@theguardian.com” , “politics@theguardian.com” , “USinfo@theguardian.com” , “kiran.stacey@theguardian.com” , “dmastrangelo@thehill.com” , “jgans@thehill.com” , “jmueller@thehill.com” , “jshapero@thehill.com” , “LKelly@thehill.com” , “mnazzaro@thehill.com” , “emitchell@thehill.com” , “kat@thenation.com” , “jamesbarber@theredceiling.com” , “bethaney@thesocialrobot.com” , “home.news@thetimes.co.uk” , “daphne.psaledakis@thomsonreuters.com” , “Humeyra.Pamuk@thomsonreuters.com” , “patricia.zengerle@thomsonreuters.com” , “Idrees.Ali@thomsonreuters.com” , “phillip.stewart@thomsonreuters.com” , “media.foundation@tr.com” , “matt.spetalnick@tr.com” , “pscheer@truthdig.com” , “Daniel.Drezner@tufts.edu” , “news.london@ukmetro.co.uk” , “jmeyer@usatoday.com” , “khjelmgaard@usatoday.com” , “interviews@usip.org” , “rlatture@usni.org” , “jstone@voanews.com” , “pwidakus@voanews.com” , “cbabb@voanews.com” , “jseldin@voanews.com” , “rupert@wamu.org” , “Michelle.Goldstein@warnermedia.com” , “breannedeppisch@washingtonexaminer.com” , “cdatoc@washingtonexaminer.com” , “choyt@washingtonexaminer.com” , “cmondeaux@washingtonexaminer.com” , “hhamilton@washingtonexaminer.com” , “mquarshie@washingtonexaminer.com” , “mseveri@washingtonexaminer.com” , “trogan@washingtonexaminer.com” , “mbrest@washingtonexaminer.com” , “gtaylor@washingtontimes.com” , “mglenn@washingtontimes.com” , “foreign@washpost.com” , “letters@washpost.com” , “national@washpost.com” , “oped@washpost.com” , “outlook@washpost.com” , “caitlin.gilbert@washpost.com” , “david.ignatius@washpost.com” , “jennifer.rubin@washpost.com” , “yasmeen.abutaleb@washpost.com” , “dan.lamothe@washpost.com” , “ldavidson@wcupa.edu” , “steve.walsh@whro.org” , “newsdesk@wjla.com” , “news@wmal.com” , “wsj.ltrs@wsj.com” , “wsjcontact@wsj.com” , “Dan.Henninger@wsj.com” , “jprice@wunc.org”
5 February 14 4 times
February 15 3 times
February 16 5 times
February 17 10 times
6 That too looks intended to stop media organizations to stop the spamming the brute force way, by having future messages from the sender filtered to trash. So this bunch was violating not just the letter but also the spirit of the CAN-SPAM Act.


I don’t think people in general appreciate the massive amount of work required to keep NC rolling. And that’s without any abuse……my hat’s off to ya.
Mine as well. Many, many thanks to you and the team.
Me too, I love this site often reflect how much care and work Yves (and others) put in.
My toxic trait is enjoying when trolls or fools try to argue back at Yves in the comments. I know they are about to get blown up, but surgically. Do not fight the lioness!
I’m inspired to send NC another USD100. Keep up the good work!
Free media exposure for NC?
You can tell by the way this person interacts that they’re under 40 (probably under 35) and “internet poisoned”, they’ve spent years (decades probably) doing flame war/forum bombing/digital influence operations (that’s the trigger response to a perceived slight and immediate shift to insults and doubling down).
I’ve come to view this stuff and quite a lot of the non-direct command operations as forms of patronage networks. These are groups of people who have a core of technical specialists who can do the bot setups and automation/repetition work but they still need some humans with the ability/willingness to sit for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, on paid campaigns for the paid topic at hand to respond to humans who interact or take the bait. The patron is the person who contracts the deal with whoever wants the influence operation and pays for the team of technicals and grunts to run the campaign. One week it’s women in games journalism, next week it’s trans athletics, after that it’s the color revolution of the week. Huge amounts of political campaign donations (and probably actual government money under Trump and Netanyahu) pay for this. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I don’t know if it’s good or bad that they’re not ideologues. I think it’s probably good that most of this isn’t “real”. I think a lot of people haven’t fully accepted the degree to which just how much of this is wholly fabricated, though.
You’re a class act, Yves. Good on you for not letting these losers shake you!
Oh, this discussion of the sociology and probable organization was very helpful. The only people I know who are activists even if youngish (like my tech woman who has been one of the top organizers of biggish marches in NYC) are professionals and know how to comport themselves. They are also very attentive to the need of participants to present the movement well. That is why I found this vitriol so surprising…did he not get that he was tarnishing the effort? But you made that make sense, that there are lots of hired hands.
Yves, what are the pros and cons for publishing Ms Raat’s email address?
I decided not to even though he had authorized that by approving the publication of his messages. Even though technically it’s OK, it struck me at too close in spirit to looking like my aim was to let/encourage others to go after him, as in harass him via e-mail. I did not want to look like I was trying to make that happen, much the less have that happen. IMHO the publication of his name, whether actually his or not, was more than sufficient in the “name and shame” category.
That Brett Raad wrote “You’re clearly one of those Ayatollah-loving, Hamas-supporting pieces of trash — typical shitty liberal.” suggests he is interested in the subject matter. The vile language suggests he isn’t worried about losing a job as email campaigner. The technically idiotic methods (huge To: lists) suggests no skill in email campaign work.
All in all I got the impression of someone unhinged and raving.
There seems to be more and more of that going around these days.
I imagine it’s some combination of stress from out-of-control personal debt amidst ever-accelerating costs & stagnant wages, COVID brain damage overriding what little judgment they had, general existential dread due to climate change (regardless of whether they deny it or not), and them aping how the current presidential administration behaves. Monkey see, monkey do.
Also being in media silos. I doubt that person learns the kind of thing we discuss here at NC.
My impression is he better watch who he spouts off to face to face, or else he might have to pick his teeth up from the floor.
If it’s not Pam Bondi in trans mode, I would assume that it is either a false flag pro-regime propagandist or a Democratic operative firming up the vote for the mid-sessional. If the latter, s/he’s doing an excellent job.
Things may have changed, but a while back I was doing a deep dive into astroturfing in various forms, and a constant for the PR professionals was to always hold their cool and keep the high ground. When someone loses it, as in the above, its usually a sign that this is an informal hasbara/wumao type operation, or whatever the Iranian expat equivalent is – i.e. an informal army of supporters who are encouraged to join in (with supplied talking points) on given topics. Mostly they are not paid, they are just encouraged to think they are part of the good fight. The advantage is that they can’t be blocked as easily as bots and can seem more ‘organic’, the disadvantage is that they can go off-piste, as this guy proves.
Having followed a few of these discourses, I think there are overlapping right wing groups (often competing) who have armies of supporters on call to do pile-ins. Some of the organisers no doubt profit from this, but the regular keyboard army volunteers don’t get anything. The informality of the links makes it harder to identify and block them.
The flip side is that its not unknown for these groups to recruit spammers who pose as ‘supporters’ of a particular movement, and then gradually behave in a noxious manner to poison the well. This is particularly common with astroturfing Green groups. You should never assume anything with these things. Just block people who behave in an objectionable manner, no matter what side they claim to support.
When someone loses it, as in the above, its usually a sign that this is an informal hasbara/wumao type operation, or whatever the Iranian expat equivalent is – i.e. an informal army of supporters who are encouraged to join in (with supplied talking points) on given topics. Mostly they are not paid, they are just encouraged to think they are part of the good fight.
Oh, this is a really good point. I think about this more from the higher level (purchaser of services, patron + patron team) where the money is actually being exchanged but you are correct that further down the chain there are often teams of unpaid volunteers who are working because they think they’re part of the good guys.
I think there are overlapping right wing groups (often competing) who have armies of supporters on call to do pile-ins.
Yes, this is a thing, but I think even if they have supporters on call only some of them, and only for a while, will do it for free (or be manipulated to work for free on basis of ideology or whatever – as I understand it at least originally a lot of these teams were recruited out of online gaming communities and forum boards). A lot of Bitcoin is used for the payment! I’ve only heard stories about the hasbara side of the operations (think: getting financially weak celebrities to defend Israel publicly – heard a very funny story about a certain C- tier musician arguing with her handler about getting more money to keep doing the work), so these would be ultimately directed from actual government policy, but even in the US we have Brad Parscale’s operation which is engaged in the same thing but for the Trump regime talking points. And of course there was the NAFO stuff early to mid Ukraine war. The patrons of these groups can then point to their successes when pitching to a new buyer – it’s just another business for them.
Or under 12?
The quick trigger on the sexual insults suggests maturity may still be years away.
Ah, this is a step above my garden variety “see my naughty photos” spam mail.
I fear clicking on any link in suspicious e-mails due to the presence of “phaque” unsubscribe links that cover for trojan horse operations. It can get cumbersome, but I list e-mails I do not desire as spam when needed. I then block the senders in the spam mail screen.
I get the feeling that you, as a public figure, get a magnitude more of spam mail than the average internet user. Are there enough hours in your day for this?
Another thought that occurred to me was that could this be an example of a “Nasty Bot” program? Roughly, an AI, (Aspirational Intelligence) designed to psychologically damage the receivers of said messaging through repeated exposure to ‘negative vibes.’ As psychology research has shown, repeated exposure to such negative messaging slowly convinces the recipient of the validity and “truth” of the underlying negative self-image. Pavlovian Conditioning via the Internet.
Stay safe, strong, and fearless.
“I fear clicking on any link in suspicious e-mails due to the presence of “phaque” unsubscribe links that cover for trojan horse operations.”
That is what I thought too.
Messages that reveal the list of recipients, call for participation after the events have passed, repeat the same message from different senders, and are managed by foulmouthed people: this is the kind of harassment, rushed work, and invectives reminiscent of what happens with those fake “Windows support”, “Internet security support”, and “blockchain support” scam calls operated from India. You can find on the Internet recordings of such sessions where the callers resort to outright insults when the interaction does not go according to their wishes.
I would therefore not be surprised that such spam received by Yves includes links that, when clicked, install ransomware, or a bitcoin-mining parasit, or some other kind of nefarious program.
There were no links in this. It was intended to be a one-way message.
You underestimate how many amateurs there are out there trying to promote their business or cause via e-mail.
I get about 1000 e-mails a day. A lot are spam. The phishing and “selling irrelevant /unwanted products and services” ones are easy to ignore. It’s ones with news related content that can get my attention.
A lot of this is due to being a publisher, but some is also due to my Internet age. I got my first e-mail account in 1992. As one of my tech buddies said, “Span is like STDs. The more you’ve gotten around, the more you have.”
This spam sounds very human to me, but I wonder what proportion of your spam is now AI generated?
Source: AI-generated text is overwhelming institutions (all examples are links to receipts in original)
In some cases, AI-generated text is getting nasty and personal, like AI agent “crabby-rathbun’s” blackmail comments and blogpost directed at the maintainer of matplotlib.
I’m amazed at NC’s ability to keep the commentariat focused on effective thinking about current events.
I got mine in 1980 without your problems. But people behaved differently back then.
Oh! How “well” educated this Brett! Good sign that all he wants is the best for his “fellow” Persians. Almost certainly he want’s them fu%&ed.
Was the entire exchange you posted set to ‘reply all’ originally? That would be a thing of beauty for all of those addresses to witness his juvenile misogyny first hand!
Has anyone ever heard about or know of any spammer anywhere actually being fined or bankrupted for those violations? I have not and think it is a toothless law.
All the e-mail addresses were exposed in the cc: field, so yes, if you hit “reply all” any response would go to the full list. Needless to say, I was tempted to do that in the, erm, discussion with Raad.
The FCC could in theory wake up any day and decide to enforce. Think of all the lovely fines to bring in revenue if the Supreme Court nixes Trump tariffs!
But in all seriousness, any remotely grown up operation that sends out e-mail in bulk complies, because not doing so says you are a clown show and/or jerks.
BCC is there for a reason, and not using it for spam like this demonstrates something about the sender. Not good, for sure.
How unpleasant, I’m sorry you experienced that. Thank you, Yves, for your work, your doggedness, and for your commitment to your priorities. I don’t think Mr. Raad would’ve expected a published summary of the exchange complete with footnotes. People ought to look into your decorated background before pulling crap like this.
Wow, that is remarkably unhinged. Yves, thanks for providing such a nice sanctuary here–and for defending it.
A bit of levity, if I may:
I get 10 of those ‘grow your member’ spam emails every day.
8 of them are from my girlfriend.
It’s the 2 from my mom that really hurt.
– Jimmy Carr
:-)
This struck my funny-bone as well! Why is it that these incel types can’t understand the subtleties of common insults?
An invitation for another person to perform fellatio is only an insult when made between hetero- males! It is then an accusation of perversion. Fellatio performed between consenting homo- or hetero- couples is a deeply connecting act of physical intimacy that is hardly an insult. However, an apparent incel like this clown is incapable of understanding such a nuance.
For some reason I was reminded of a bumper sticker that was making the rounds about 30 years back: MEAN PEOPLE SUCK. NICE PEOPLE SWALLOW.
In general, when a man gratuitously mentions his equipment, and worse to try to present himself as potent, it means he’s seriously inadequate.
Good lord, Yves, I am so sorry you have to, even briefly, consider such imbecilities.
I actually had that bumper sticker
Yves wrote: “I am sure my readers will too.”
I did. Thanks for sharing. Oh my! When someone resorts to that type of argumentation you know they have nothing else to work with.
Just once I sent out a spam where I hit CC instead of BCC.
It’s very embarrassing to have a public radio reporter let you know that you just shared your entire list of political contacts with them.
Seems like it would be very easy for Gmail to route all BCC mail to a special spam folder or to at least flag BCC emails which are every bit as annoying as spam from a first name only account which turns out to be spam from a company using a nonidentifying email address.
I agree the response is very revealing and not only gives us a) the person is western, b) of a particular political persuasion, c) has a very particular view of women, d) by the very rudeness (and disregard for general humanity as well as laws) we can likely narrow down the culture – and it’s not Iranian.
I would even go so far as to say in my view no Iranian, pro or anti-Shah, would ever respond in this fashion. Good catch, Yves, even if unintentional.
ugh, what a troll. but perhaps he has been assured he is immune from prosecution for anything done in service to the cause.
or perhaps he is an incel…
is it possible your “interlocutor” was an AI run amok? i recently read a curious story wherein a software engineer rejected some code created by AI and received hostile and insulting responses in return.
No. AI content is much better written.
I know Yves must have thick skin, but I am still sorry to see this abuse. It will undoubtedly open someone’s eyes. They doth protest a bit too much to just a request to stop spamming.
Unwarranted, unhinged, puerile, misogynistic abuse. Sad, pathetic, but not surprising. This dude and his ilk are sadistic sociopaths. I guess if you support genocide, mass murder, bombing innocent people etc. that would qualify one as a sadist sociopath. People like this, and say Lindsey Graham, are also pathetic cowards. They ask for others to die til the last drop of blood, while they are protected and safe. Not to be too crude, but maybe a deep-seated sense of physical inadequacy and/or impotency plays into this. The intellectual and emotional inadequacy is clear, however.
I agree. What a nasty thing to deal with. Our host shows her class everyday.
Trolls are brave in their caves behind their keyboards. That’s why I still love this ad :)
Paddy Power – Boxer KOs internet troll
Yes indeed. Cheers for the funny clip chris. LOL, now there’s a “good lad!”
I don’t follow mma, but I do know that Paddy has a reputation for being cool. Thanks for the video.
That eggplant emoji suggested there is a pretty gross sexual subtext to this troll’s flames too…
It instantly reminded me of the “potency potion” described in the “Privy Journal of Capt. John Smith” from John Barth’s “The Sot-Weed Factor.” An eggplant figures prominently in that.
He’s sleepy and you’re not worth staying up for at 3:15 PM? Is that US Eastern time or Thai time? If it’s US, that plus the name makes me wonder if this person is operating from the Netherlands. If it’s Thai time, then that would be 3:15 AM for a spammer on the US east coast, which is way past most people’s “sleepy” time. So that maybe puts him on the west coast? Well! I’m sorry you’re exposed to this type of vile idiocy. My impression is half the people in Congress now talk like this at times, and it doesn’t map to party very closely either. The coarsening of public discourse now into childish retorts and obscene epithets is very striking to those of us who were around 50 years ago, when little bits of this bad behavior started being celebrated as “‘daring” and “transgressive” (and even, according to some, “more honest”).
No, all my time. So assuming he is in LA, it would be 0:15.
First page of Goog search on that name has resumes for a Graphic Designer who seems proud of having worked for FOX Broadcasting, located in SoCal – which is consistent with your analysis of the time-stamp. Also Instagram pic with comments in Arabic script under names which could be Persian.
Assuming this *is* the guy writing the emails in the OP, the hubris of using his real name is also consistent with the content of those emails…
Eves has one of the best minds out there. Sometimes she makes me feel dumb and I’m anything but.
Little people, little minds. The good thing is when he’s badgering Eves, someone else is getting a break.
The guy should be ignored. By responding you validate him.
I pay for e-mail which lets me block people. It cost about 10 bucks a month.
Thanks for the kind words. But I can block e-mails. The issue here was this pro-son-of-the-Shah group used different addresses for sending messages almost every time. So they can keep relentlessly spamming.
However, this post may have worked. They sent yet another spam message, with as before a list of media org and writer addresses as before. I sent a reply all with a link to this post. No messages from them since that.
I find the most hilarious part of this story is how it exposes the “Iran regime change advocates” as likely CIA patsies, sitting in Mom’s basement, maybe earning a few bucks while unemployed and gaming all day.
Not a very flattering picture. Real Iranians would never communicate like that.
Oh, one line of thought I did not work into the post: was the rank amateurism the result of the cuts to USAID funding, which has hurt a lot of NGOs? Even though many of the rallies were in the US, a big one, where Pahlavi spoke, was in Munich. Any overseas operation in the old days could be presumed to have a USAID/National Endowment for Democracy tie-in. A salting of supervising adults would have greatly reduced the clown-show quality of this campaign.
That’s an interesting observation. My initial reaction was that, surely, a “serious” info op by intel agencies could draw in money and expertise from elsewhere, but then thought they would not be writing spam emails. A lot of “professional useful idiots,” who form a resource that can be exploited by intel agencies when needed against the “usual suspects,” but not necessarily under direct control of such agencies (and may not even be aware that they are spooky tools) might undeed have gotten rid of when USAID funding got cut indeed.
A related explanation would be a lack of ready qualified flacks due to a huge influx of cash and a rush to get out a big volume of billable communications and no time to hire or vet anyone. Could speak to desperation, overkill, or loss of skills at USAID.
I was going to comment in other Iran articles that compared to the Bush WH efforts for the Iraq invasion, the Trump WH efforts, MSM push, et al, for this Iran war have been pretty pathetic, but I’m not the recipient of such convincing emails!
I think if I did walk around town and ask random people about going to war with Iran the overwhelming answer would be along the lines of “this is stupid”, and I’m in a county with a huge military footprint.
Sadly I don’t think this is particularly newsworthy in this day and age, as a lot of social media feeds are filled up with exactly this kind of thing, up to and including advocacy of sexual violence (AOC is a popular target, but by no means the only one).
I’m not on social media much, but I know people who have had to block formerly-sane friends and even family members.
You go for it, Ives.
I love the way you can knock down straw-men arguments and idiots like this one. It made me smile. Thanks for all you do. This is my go-to place for my morning coffee.
So sorry, but my wife and I did have a good laugh.
Regarding Iranians in the US, we live in a part of California that had a large influx of Iranian “refugees” in the early 80s, for some reason, and some of them pine for the days of yore, if you will. Their offspring are very much American, and sound like it as well.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen my friend Massoud, but in the days when we waited for the knock on the door, he used to tell me tales of SAVAK.
Thank you for sharing that with us. It appears to me that he disengaged before you did, so I am guessing you won. I would have replied to each of his rants with “Thank you for your input” until he disappeared.
These spam messages were so bad, I momentarily wondered if they might be a psyop from supporters of the Iranian Republican seeking to discredit the would-be monarchy restorationists.
Some people, like this guy, are just a waste of 1s and 0s. You block them when you realize what they are all about.
Are they putting something in the water in the US? Are the fabled fluorides from Dr. Strangelove a real threat? What else could possibly drive such psychopathy? Seriously though, crazy freak behavior on his part. It really doesn’t seem like a professional op, just some rando who decided to pick a fight.
Regardless of the exact exemplar, NYT and similar comment sections, but NOT the well defended comments on NC, are often hijacked by aggressive types justifying the underlying themes the Congress embraces, with content intended to drive rational writers away. The time-tested “fart in the elevator” tactic.
Wow – Good on ya Yves!
Netanyahu and his fellow war mongerers in USA are almost crying like a toddler when they dont get to bomb and kill Iranians. They are hysterical and angry at the Iranians for wanting to defend themselves. How dare they! We have a god given right to kill you is their argument. The same hysteria was present during Iraq war 2. But Iran is more formidable it seems and this gives Trump and his zionist bosses pause. The nastry response to Yve is their more vile evil self exposed for all to see.
Everydayjoe’s phrasing and description is beautifully quotable for other less informed venues that we may find.
One of the recipients in the cc is a certain “jepstein@insider.com”. Is this THE insider Jeffrey Epstein, the pedo-cannibalo-sousteneur for the rich and powerful? He or his ghost is really everywhere.
If not, that is really an unfortunate email address to have nowadays.
Bravo for standing up to this bunch of crappy, so-called “pro-democracy” activists